the, the, this is dw news live from berlin, cumberland, harris and donald trump. the day after their 1st and perhaps only presidential debate. it started it last night in philadelphia with a handshake was followed by 90 minutes, questions on policy and politics and accusations, personal and public also coming up un secretary of state anthony blinking and his u. k counterpart of arrived in ukraine would blink and calls a critical moment for t, but its efforts to push back the rush, the

brain golf. it's good to have you. with this, we begin with the us presidential debate between cumberland harris and donald trump . the day after and what there's 90 minutes might mean, excuse me, on election day and november. the last night in philadelphia us vice president campbell, a harris and former president donald trump slashed in a heated presidential debate the 90 minute showdown was the 1st chance for americans to see the 2 presidential candidates square off over issue such as economy migration and reproductive health. both harris and trump were on a mission to appear king for an executive command, hold of a. so i went to those the keys, the other of line with harris questioning drums fitness for office. and donald trump accused harris of letting migration spiraled out of control on her watches, vice president. you repeated an unproven allegation about your regular immigrants.

in springfield, they're eating the dogs. the people that came in there eating the catch, they're eating, they're eating the pets of the people that lives there. and this is what's happening in our country. and it's a shame i hear is it, trump and supporters were basically getting bored with her and or him and leaving his rallying. she also said the trunk, the refusal to accept the outcome of the 2020 election poses a threat to american democracy. donald trump was fired by 81000000 people. so let's be clear about that. and clearly he is having a very difficult time processing that. but we cannot afford to have a president of the united states who attempts, as he did in the past 2, up and the will of the voters in a free and fair election. but the 2 also disagreed on foreign policy, was trump blaming hair. as for russia's war and ukraine and falsely claiming that

harris has met with russian president vladimir putin, a center to negotiate peace before this war started. 3 days later he went in and he started the war because everything they said was weak and stupid. they said the wrong things that were should have never started. she was the emissary. they said to rent and negotiate with zalinski and put in. and she did. and the war started 3 days later. or, well, harris responded by underlining her support for keys and criticizing trumps relationship with vladimir putin. and that we understand the importance of the greatest military lives the world has ever known which has nato. and what we have done to preserve the ability of the landscape and the ukrainians to fight for their independence, otherwise potent would be sitting, emptied with his eyes on the rest of europe, starting with poland. what you think is a friendship with what is known to be

a dictator who to eat you for lunch. we're going to be here in the studio now is my colleague michelle stockman. she follows the debate and she's been helping us, you know, put these sound bites in these statements into some type of context. let's talk about from where we're sitting here. we're here in europe and we're, we're listening to what was said last night. is there a real threat to piece by one of these candidates? well, by one of these candidates, i think that's a great question. both of them. one piece, the question is what they think is an acceptable piece. so obviously a couple of harris backs the biden stance. a 100 percent behind you cream that the russians invasion of ukraine must be pushed back. and in fact, they think it's the because x a central threat to europe, that sense world war 2. the absolutely coming across. if you listen to what trump was asked and the debate here with us is it in the us best interest that ukraine

when the war, he dodged that question. he didn't answer it. he said it's best that the war ends. and he said that he could end the war if he's elected even before he is non rated, because he's such good friends with putting in zalinski. he can make them come together and have peace. but peace at this moment in time would mean a huge loss of territory of democratic rights for ukraine. so the, the question is really why trump is, is saying this, why he was, it's to go is in this direction. and i think it has to come down to his america 1st policy, actually what he was saying, appeals to a lot of american voters who have for over the past 20 years, seen america involved in wars abroad in iraq and afghanistan before that in vietnam . and are wondering what was it all for? we said we were funding for democracy and yet we just lost a lot of blood and treasure. and so actually this line of appeals to a lot of american voters, there are, there's been a lot of commentary, you know,

in the morning after the debate were you, a lot of people have been saying that couple of harris performed better last night . but let's go beyond, you know, the performative part of politics here. do you think that the voters in the united states did they get an adequate picture of both of these candidates? i mean, we could argue that everyone knows donald trump, but what about couple of harris? i think this was a very crucial debate for her, and this was an image contest. could she go up against trump and show that she's commanding, that she can stand up and be tough against strong men? because beyond trump, there's couldn't, and others that across the world that she should stand up to. and so really the debate was pretty light on policy. honestly, the policy that she talked about could be put on a couple of powerpoint slides in terms of her economic plan in terms of her immigration plan. but she did, she was able to needle trump. she was able to call him out on issues like his, his rally size. she was able to say for leaders,

mock him behind his back. but the former administration officials who worked for him say he's a threat to democracy. and so she was able to show she could go toe to toe for him . so in that sense, she did come out somewhat of a winter in this debate and in terms of reaching her goals that she wanted to meet you. we were talking earlier about, you know, who were these, you know, there was a lot of arguing last night, there wasn't a lot of substance, but it was this for. and the polls show that this is a very tight race. most people have made up their, my is what you're going to look for in november. but the people who haven't, they could actually be the ones who decides that that's right. there are 7 states that are called swing states that are really going to decide the selection, each candidate, the winner needs $270.00 electro boats. and if they, there are some states where that's going to be decided. and so, you know, both of the candidates had lines of attack that are going to appeal to their base. but there are

a lot of people that don't like either candidates. so it may be that one feels more aligned with the abortion policy that trump talked about, or that harris talked about, or one feels that crime is really bad, and immigration is out of control. and so they're going to go with whoever which candidates spoke to them the most. so i would say to me, the race is still in place. the pulls are still tight. it's going to be what line of attack really resonated with. one of the swing voters. you know, it's pretty this, you know, unexpected question here. but on the, in the eyes of europeans, was there a winter last time i would say, but if you could look at the debate and cherry pick some of the weird things that trump said, like they're immigrants in the states that are eating people's pets. and that's the only thing you saw me then you are getting are saying, oh my gosh, there's this chaotic force that is threatening to come over to american democracy. again, i don't want that. so i would think europeans would say yes, he's the lose or however he really did hit come on here as hard on some points,

like integration on the asking withdrawal where, and also what's happened in america over the past 3 years in terms of the economy. if they're interested or not, he really did hit come on here, it's hard, there is. will there be a 2nd debate? well, uh, the democrats, immediately after the debate calls for that harris, this campaign said yes. let's meet again. trump, campaign had before this debate proposed further debates. so i think both candidates sheaves kind of what they wanted it. i don't know if they really need to meet again. they can just still agree to. yeah. the routes for yeah, the so, and there are shelves talking, michelle, we appreciate the analysis. thank you. you a secretary of state answer, the blinking is arriving. keep to demonstrate washington's continued commitment to ukraine. he travelled to the country alongside the british foreign secretary david land. they travelled on the train from poland. they planned to meet with ukrainian

and president building his zalinski to discuss keeps more aims blinking has called this a critical moment support ukraine and its fights against russia's invasion. ukraine is facing russian battlefield advances and increasingly heavy bombardment and is hoping to allies will lift restrictions on how far inside russia they can strike using western weapons or used correspondent, rebecca rid or she didn't even i asked her if you crane will get permission to strike deeper into russian territory with those western weapons. yeah, that is indeed the question brand. it's impossible to say with any kind of certainty at this stage, but it's certainly going to be talking the agenda when these 3 man meets today, here in here to discuss this very issue. it's something that love them as an entity has been pushing for for weeks now, asking the us and it's western allies to give the green light for it to be able to

use these us supplied and west and supplied long range missiles to shoot the, the deep into russian territory so far they've only been able to use them on, on areas around the long, very long 1000 kilometers frontline in positions where russia has a lot to tax from. but the automated polanski says is absolutely crucial that they've been given the that they've given the go ahead that they can shoot deeper into russian territory to try to take out of bases where russian launch attacks on ukrainian territory. now, it's something that the us and western allies have been very nervous about ground seen because of threats coming, coming from vladimir potent, that he will not hold you kind responsible, but he will hold the country for responsible, who in fact have been supplying these weapons. so, you know, very much saying that the more could still have a could spread, and that's something that nobody wants. i think the brand is very unlikely. we'll say a policy change at announcements today, but they'll certainly be taking everything. let's discuss back to the latest and

kissed on the u. k. prime in a civil will carry on the conversation when he meets with us president joe biden. later this week, rebecca, the united states as the rush of received missiles from iraq, the us and its allies say that they will respond with sanctions against iran. i. so i'm wondering what impact will that have on rushes ability to get more weapons from iran that many assume are then being used in ukraine? so actually think i'm confirming just today saying that their intelligence suggests that the weapons have been transferred to russia. it's something that roster has been trying to show up from the around new trying to get these the more ballistic style miss the miss solve for some time, but iran has been reluctant to do so because of the threats of the sanctions. we've now say sanctions for the sanctions by the u. s. u k. fronts in germany being put on some of writing and assets of their, their main, uh,

aircraft carrier as well. so it'll be interesting to see what effect that will have on the future of supply from uh, from a ron regarding these weapons. we're talking about mid rain rage, weapons that would really out wide. and we also know that russia has to use and give them much more flexibility unless saying that they could use these mid range weapons on the front line, saving they a longer range missiles to, to, to target areas much further inside your current in territory. i'm going to ask you to a bill of russian claims that it's military has recapture and settlements inside the course of the region. what are the implications of that if that, if that is true? well, we've got pretty limited information as you can imagine on that. but this morning we stats of getting wood on some russian pro russian telegram accounts and military blogs to suggest that this somebody expect pretty much expected counter offensive was under way. and we've, we've heard also from a major general from the russian army on the russian news agency tasks to suggest

that 10 settlements have seen retaken have been taken back by russia. we haven't followed him as a landscape just last week saying that a 100 settlements are in that coast region in russia that ukraine took and went into a rush or a just a little over a month ago that they had a 100. the settlements in that region. so now if, if what we're hearing is true that, that figured down to 90 settlements and you know, we'll have to see. so this is what happens. what happens that a lot of me as a landscape certainly wanting to use this coast region, this expensive the whole plan was to try to take, you know, results as away from the front line in the south and the east, but also to try to force the hand of pace with the we put in to try to give him more reasons to want to try and find pace. so we'll have to say what happens in that region. but as i say, reports that the counselor offensive has become a officer, responded rebecca readers with the leaders from key. rebecca as always,

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