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the been returned and it's believe $97.00 are still being held somewhere in gaza. and so far there is no clear plan on when or how to bring them home alive. that's why last week from 750000 people to take to the streets in israel, demanding the government take action and make a deal with him oss, no israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says, no can do any deal with him. odyssey says, would be a deal with the devil. unburnt coffin, berlin. this is the day the i'm doing everything to a ton of hostages, to win the world. doesn't want to come off. they just responded no, do a deal. the
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deal also coming up a giant leap forward with a brand new look space x makes history with the 1st space waltz by private citizens in brand new space. oops. home. we all have a lot of work to do, but from here with, for the, for, for the, with our viewers watching on tv as in the united states and have all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with israel at war with the boss and increasingly in conflict with itself. it has been almost one year since the how much terror attacks inside is real, the atrocities of october 7th became the trigger for what is now israel's war
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against the mos in gaza. and if you follow the comments that is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu, you'll know that an in to this more is not on the horizon of this could be fatal for the hostages, who were taken by her boss during the attacks interguards of their families fear this nightmare now has 3 main actors working against a happy reunion time, moss and the government of benjamin netanyahu. we have more now with this report last week, fury and solely intended these, unused at 6 mill, hostage bodies were recovered from garza. they've been shot that off to surviving for 11 months is where at least not only angry at home us. many you have lost confidence that prime minister benjamin netanyahu is interested in making it to you to release the remaining 101 hostages. that enter lines in garza
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come on the berries. we can do nothing about them. so i think we need to stop there . will we need to to do a deal with them and the i thing that we need to give them and anything they want because a residence in as well, or the bell is suffering and they taking oxygen as a government and you need to save them. no matter what, what do you need to give you? give them back it's. it's the her car show. we need them to come back home. we need this man to go away and let us revive our country. but the prime ministers, village is car ride, collision seems stable. that's despite these continuing must protest. and despite the drop in his personal popularity since october, no influx on the govern. nope. yet. so maybe if for these
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500000 people go to jerusalem and sit there for 3 days, may be price. now there is no one the challenge and our position is not to you. and if i need to know who insist that only military pressure can may come us release the hostages. but critics say his sudden insistence that is ready, troops remain on the border area between garza and egypt. the philadelphia cory door makes an agreement even less likely. now the world will seriously demand that this will make concessions after this massacre. what message of this sent to come us? i'll tell you what the messages, murder, more hostages. you'll get more concessions. so that's not only a logical, it's not only a moral, because the right insane. so it's not going to happen. she more of belongs to
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a small group of relations of hostages and sewage. this cage in gaza will say any presentations would endanger, is really the future. he's smith few of you know town or was taken hostage from the nova music festival on october 7 on my cell mcdonough, the deal and giving up remotely to anything. and not only we say any attempt to talk with them us will lead to more and more being murdered. and we're saying to stop the negotiations completely. and that causes understand that can be no more from us. not now the day off the shelf really protest as he has said, that after nearly a year the hostages chances of survival look increasing the peak divisions in each row hardening with no agreement. insight on doing now by daniel live. and he's a former senior advisor to the is really prime minister's office. he was part of
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israel's negotiating team during the oslo peace process. he's now the president of the us middle east project and he joins me tonight from london. mr. living, it's good to have you with this, you know, it's been almost a year since the terror attacks from last year. i'm wondering, in your opinion, are things as black and white as they appear to be. let me, let me give you an example. the hostages will only be returned in a deal with him off a deal, which prime minister netanyahu says, will not happen. is it that black and white in europe? it a very good question because there's always complexity and everything in life and in politics. and certainly in war, but sometimes one has to just drill down to get to what is going on to me. i think that is a reasonable summation of the situation. because as you say, we now approach g one year when it comes to these right?
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these being held in casa, we now have a record, a track record. there was an agreed release in november that far ago, that led to a very significant cohort. all of those being held, being released, israel have to stop. subsequent to that is where it is claims, the military pressure will get more hostages out of life, and it has not happened that has been the smallest number, but they're all move date bodies where the killed by those helping them captive will kill bias rady strikes. so if one wants to see the remaining is re lease being held are those who are still alive, returning home to live, you increasingly see not me, you say this. but the majority, the vast majority of the families of those still being held say, do the deal, missed the prime minister. you are preventing the deal. but it also is the position of much of the security establishment. and that's before we even talked about what
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is going on with the palestinians in garza, the war crimes also being committed against the civilian population and the need for them to put a line on the horrors and the devastation in the humanitarian crisis is nothing y'all who she wants is really troops in the philadelphia core door. one causes border with egypt. ma says that's a non starter. that's not a surprise. how much it is, isabel is real, not trust the egypt to secure its own border with gauze it'd be do nothing. now who would tell you that if we leave things as they have been, you're just going to have a moss, you know, returning to its practice of smuggling in more weapons which will then be used to carry out future terror attacks. well i think there's a few things going on, pass the civil nothing, you know, whose position on the philadelphia colorado has been roundly criticized and on the
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mind and prove it to be largely spurious. mm. by not only views, right. we security, establish it, but also by something very simple. if that was nothing, you audrey position, you've been prime minister full soto since 2009 also. uh the ever since 2009 with a very brief one. yeah. hi, just why was you so concerned with the philadelphia car adult then? only in the 9th month of these ro, invading reading vague and goss. i did not send yahoo's move to take this to the delphi cardoso. you suddenly discovered that this was the ex essential threats to is relevant. you now claim it to be somebody's these ready. i'm not taking not seriously what they all taking. serious is the prime minister. nothing you will find if he's not the philadelphia cory door observations to preventative,
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that the american media is not being straight with any of us, don't with their own population. all these rated probably not with the palestinians, the region, the rest of the world. when they keep telling us, the problem is just almost nothing you know, keeps agree. we know that's not true. they have to walk back some of their comments . and therefore, what you see is a situation where we remain solidly stock. yes, for political reasons. nothing. y'all was a coalition. yes, because nothing yahoo sees his own personal political revival as being wrapping himself as the indispensable time lead up to that unique war. but also this is ideological and he wants to continue this war on the policy. and that's, that's his, that this policy that's for politics and it's, well, yeah, you say you're stuck in depth despite the immense pressure coming from the united states for nothing. yahoo! to take action and i mentioned that cause i want to ask you about this. you recently wrote that america is not a friend of peace in the middle east, but an enemy explain what you mean there. what i
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mean there is that this notion is that the us is placing tremendous pressure on that that yahoo does not bad the 1st contact with reality. the 5 minutes ministration continues to provide the weaponry note which protects these rail against the rock, the weapon way, which is used all space to meet in gaza to cause this destruction if they were to attempt to put pressure on this route then is wrong, would have a very different calculation to make. they provide political come. so you're saying this america is nowhere to mr. living, is that what you're saying? this is a map. this is america has more to look. i'm not suggesting that we should be welcoming some of the global head, but i am suggesting that america, like any of the state, has the best the politics has its own interest as it seems that that's the debate
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in america, or course about all of these things bought the bible ministration has chosen to take an approach which is antithetical to securing a short term ceasefire and to securing a long term piece because they are lining with a party that is in violation of international law. and in violation of the 80 seeing the good lies with achieving peace, that doesn't help us. it's fine. the us to be on these route side, but we need a town to find them so that not only so that the middle east can be, we stabilize them. palestinians can live again, and i would argue it doesn't help israel. your not being a friend to israel when you in college, the extremism of small stretch of fame to that. and indeed, not much of nothing the opposite. because we thought, i'm sure that if you were to ask president biden who, you know, says he's an irish american zion this that he would say that he's not helping or
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pushing the far right to gender in israel. but i'm wondering the, what would you say to the 2 people who want to be the next president of the united states coming to harris. and donald trump is there, is there one who would be better or more suited for israel moving forward? well, have to look at the structural factors. so if you watch the debate the other night, they was scrambling to establish that pro is ralph over the slides. that's how they view the way in which american politics plays out, bought on the box a mattress with important differences. because complet harris is the know the need for a democrat party the, the majority of whose voters do not fit along with that policy. if you has a problem on this issue, so inside the democrat are the there are significant cohorts. i'll vote just as
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elected officials who was saying this is not good politics, not for america, not for our international standing, not for all reputation, not to being taken seriously as a country of law and order of international. it is not good for peace in the middle east, so you have that debate inside the democrat of the i think, present by the something of an outlier by being so fox, the right president, trump has a very different republican party. again, let's take the personalities of the 2 out of president. trump has a republican party for whom the most important constituency on this issue is. event jellicoe dispensation is christians who are both zionist and most. he's raised scientists and who believes actually in many ways quite an anti semitic way, that the jury should will collect that. then that used to be combined to die in, in uh, the 2nd tell me which is an a vision i'm too excited about. so i think be the structural politics of the respective policies matches here. but the bigger picture is we
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should wait for america to solve. this is ray. these are going to have to change their approach if they want a better future palestinians are going to meet the leadership. the can challenge things to typically we should look look into all the right just to help balance out the problem of america. by the way, that use to some degree to be you're an american, you're could not entirely balance each other out, but could be useful. that could be a division of labor. unfortunately, today we don't have that, you repeat, but we have to look else. where is the shifting geo politics as a shifting global south in countries like south africa of set up it needs national coats as well mr. olivia? unfortunately we're out of time. but this is a fascinating discussion. please come back and talk with this again because i'm sure we can fill in entire show with this topic with you daniel, let me thank you very much. thank you so much. i the take the money and leave fleet. the swedish
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government is offering to pay immigrants, $34000.00. if they go back to their home country. the conservative governments migration ministers said that this is part of a paradigm shift and sweetness, migration policy, migrants who leave voluntarily can apply for the $34000.00 beginning in 2026. now that amount is $35.00 times higher than the existing grant, which has been in place since 1984 beneficial say that it's relatively unknown and an use, for example, only one person and one person used it last year and i look great on as a journalist and editor at the local suite and she joins me tonight from the sweetest city of mel. no, it's good to have you with this and most of whom exactly qualifies for these $34000.00. well they have specified all the details yet. but if we take the current grant as an example, the only available refugees,
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people who, honestly just because of some other reason of production of their families. so like say a job or the wife probably you weren't conscious go, you know, i don't really foster still come back to the police and the curtain grow. despair will also be available to people who already have a rest of the product. so you also called the compass, we did the go, well actually i change my mind, just give me a moment please on that. they're basically the car growth. there are no restrictions on return to sweden off. you can give it, but you do lose your rest of those problems when you receive it. so if you want to retire not to go through the site was a long way to process again. and do we know emma is very broad popular support for this? i mean $34000.00, it's a lot of money to these huge public debate about this particular issue yet. i mean, it's just one part is quite a lot of reforms that the government, especially for the migration of the tools,
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are not really clear what the impacts would be in this case, like this specific reform probably wouldn't affect not too many people to be honest . well yeah, i mean, the numbers should last year, only one person actually got the grant money. it makes me wonder what is the, the ultimate goal here. i mean, how many immigrants taking the money and leaving sweden, how many of those would be considered success? the government actually do want to invest money also in forming people off this crunch. but the primary that looked into this issue, it decimated the grunt of 354-4300, which is the really 50000 to which increase this kind of re on the creation by 700 people. yeah. but the questions i did was very hard to say for sure this we didn't done a good spokes, personal migration. he actually saw the table, the,
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but this was, this was a boat or figure. that's quite a big pool of people who would potentially be interested. i'm not quite sure what the cause of point is for success, but i don't think it's a wild guess to think, but it would increase compared to today. the government has promised to take a hard line on integration. um, is this move just for show? i mean, i guess i'm trying to, i mean i understand the argument put your money where your mouth is here. is that what the swedish government is doing? in your opinion? it's the presumably say that it's what part of the puzzle every little bit helps, like the idea of the governor's perspective is thought a lot of people today aren't integrated. don't speak swedish, don't talk, jobs aren't really part of society. and maybe in a lot of cases would actually quite like to leave the car for various reasons. it's interesting though, the government of going to the inquiry is actually rejected. the idea, normally when the government launches an inquiry, it gets this quite clear directives and you kind of assume it to go in the
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direction of what the government was. this time of the inquiry results to study other countries and find methods that could increase the immigration from the grants to caution centers and it just basically went, nope, no confidant. there are no such about this anywhere that works to lot of the big choir did say that if we don't want to increase the crumbs to increase the number of bullets returns to stomachs, then cuba, small benefits, just we don't the public finances box. it's of the risks far outweigh the benefits of immigration drug would send a signal to the target groups about their notebook, which would tom beverly in this integration, which is set, could have consequences such as low lower labor market participation, more crime, a move in groups of the growth talks to others, basically, advice to go, not to do this and even set the actually in the future. but just for the migration agency, you should just don't funding this, nothing tires. yeah. that, that's fascinating and it is certainly gives new meaning to the term. i'm golden
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handshake. that that's for sure. m a lift gate on joining us tonight for melma in sweet. we appreciate your reporting. i'm a thank you. a new era in private space flight has begun for the 1st time ever to private ask or not from space ex to have completed a space walk which solved them leave their dragon capsule protected only by their space. 6, space ex is new, space suit has been years in development. i guess this was the cap will result today while this pulling, he tells me now he's editor of nasa watch dot com. he's going to see you again. certainly as a calling this a jointly forward for i wanna say the, the commercial space industry. is that what it is? yeah. you know, and there's something about this. there are some ways this has been done before.
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back in the day when i was a little kid, this is how the for soviet and american nationalists went out. they just kind of did a little thing and came back in. then the asset developed in russia develop space would still have back that little screen here. they have a backpack that has all the white support for today. and of course the space is by the way, yes, just because in 40 years they're trying to make new ones, but it's taking them decades and they still haven't done it well space x took some of these drives that money and went and developed these new suits and they're kind of like brand new, sexy things that are 21st century. but at the same time, you know, use my little model here. they have a chatter. so they don't need the backpack, the oxygen from this. that said, the units themselves are quite bored, being so what nasa have. so it's something called something new subject tried something to it's new and old, a new, know what we're given me asking,
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why is it been decades since nasa has come out with a new spacing? i mean the via the ones that have been used department, the space shuttle missions were basically the same ones that were used during the apollo missions. i mean, it's hard to believe that you know, 4050 years and go by and you haven't upgraded your your space. it's yeah, well that's, that's bit of a bit of a conundrum for your cluster. in the us, on one hand, i use the space to blogs and they're not exactly nimble. and if you start filling them with they are, they can very steps. so these are not the most expressive, you know, space suits, they do their job, but they take some work out good friends of you from your shoulders out and gotten bruises and so forth. and you know, they've been, this has been prompted more than once. digital spaces and they've just keeps spinning all this money and we never get some companies like um, i asked him space and i know the company is it struck out happens asked to build spaces so we can use in the mood and space exit courses,
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develop their own spaces that says void for their star line or so. okay, we're making some practice but it's not nasa, it's these companies because they can do product development enhancement. yeah, 2nd year is interesting before we're not time, i want to ask you this crew with 3 times fire the international space station. that was that risk. you mean? what are the risk of going so far? it's risky in that not for the spacecraft. you can do this easily, but you go into one region near the van allen belts where you get a radiation dose that's somewhat like 3 times larger than you'd get if you on the space station for 6 months. but you only dwell or stay there for a short period of time. that's it. any space walk is dangerous and the further where you are, the further where you are. but these folks had it all in hand and figured out and they did their thing and maybe next time, the fluoride to do something worse than as projected. but you know, they say if you're going to take a space walk, you might as well look good while you're doing it. i guess that's what they did
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