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tv   Arts Unveiled  Deutsche Welle  September 14, 2024 12:30pm-1:00pm CEST

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the, the, the terrorist attack on a music festival and all the targets in israel and the hundreds did. others were taken hostage. the subsequent does of war has resulted in many more days since october 7th, 2023. the world has been polarized the full last has been immense, including in the us, in germany, even jewish officers. some intellectuals have been criticized. we've seen a long list of jewish and jewish is really, individuals being publicly lambasted, denounced the platform stigmatized. palestinian artists
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also see themselves in a time corner. i said at the beginning of the work truck in my own space would i'd see like a longer say what i think or feet purchased around the world have deep divisions. the cultural saying has become a strong as the political climate, the lloyd to the varden and the people on all sides. you're carrying very deep wounds. awful. i didn't die so, so that can be no died old school. the starting at 6 30 am on october 7th from us 5 more than 3000 real quick to the israel in a deadly surprise attack. that was just the beginning. so wish to do
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use our kids when they do not charge the wrong kids up front. if that was my dog, but we waited 2 or 3 hours to find out just how big the catastrophe won't hotmail 5, and the goal is pick up the phone with the so to me, defend bill. and since then we have been in this 7th of october besides, and if you ask is riley's today what day is it? it's still the 7th of october of 2023, and it was in take a little thought of a volume sponsors. 1200 people were killed in the attacks carried out by her mice and other militant e. some responses victims were like to do, right. and according to official figures, 251 people were taken hostage via text box outrage in many parts of the world. of course, october 7th, was horrifying. the dark day in history,
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there's no question about that. but didn't surprise me. absolutely not the actually, since here's the situation is really started is going down the drain, like never before. it was the reactions celebrations on the day of the attack input in a radical pro palestinian group handed out sweets. st. potholes with the police followed sometimes it was the result in silence that came moving a few is riley, spelt a band and even by those they fault with the allies, it seems to me that for 24 hours the left would have expressed some things that vaguely approximates with the humanitarian sensibility, compassion, the
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so not only was this entirely upset and but in fact we, so from the left um, of new form i would, i would go over negation. and so i know for sure code to get audit and such coldness, especially in progressive circles, really surprised me. it's something i never would have dreamed of since we just call them lessons. israel responded to the terrorist attacks by bombing the gaza strip and sending ground troops vowing to destroy mass. in september 2024 palestinian authorities to the death toll and gaza had reached over 40000, mostly women and children. the debt creek engulfed the rule in the gaza strip,
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which is still ongoing. yeah. and it has filled me with heart attacks and the finance and i shall apply the specific because it was clear to me from the outset that a new era had begun. dusty and missed me a from that the world has simply become a different place event and i think about the rule has been accompanied by the tools and demonstrations. so i'm in solidarity with israel, but most to being pro palestinian and to boston accused is round of genocide. an accusation that the international court of justice in the hague is currently considering the cultural scene has been equipped to deal with the strains. there's been a great deal of field doing something wrong, especially in germany, where criticism of israel might be seen as anti symmetric at the frankfurt books
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and shortly after the mass let attack palestinian olsa atanya shibley's was due to receive a prize to novel mind a detail tells of the motive of 2 palestinians by his rallies. the award ceremony was postponed indefinitely. things got difficult for of the palestinians to steve sabelle. it was due to open an exhibition in berlin in october, 1 that was to focus on his palestinian identity. this too was postponed to reschedule. iowa slat sick, you know, from, from october 7, i have been exhibiting an opening on october 11, which did not happen. and it was called the tons and tons, it's about on my journey of tons and tons of feeling becoming if you will be no longer feeling under condition whatsoever. and then a renowned jewish office, indeed sprites, from south africa, who has lived in berlin for many years. was heat, pay a long planned expedition on the 6th work and south africa was cancelled. but this
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island museum so well checked it with becket. becket. respected meant, but it's not of your rights is accused of not speaking out clearly enough against the mass attack, a completely false accusation. she said, my crime was to have failed to sufficiently compare the atrocious, atrocious events of the 7th of october with the events of the holocaust. the, anyone can so visit my social media platforms and see that i in fact had unequivocally and a on several occasions denounced how most strongly with alternating to be
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prompted by non jewish jones to do so. the jewish because have had similar experiences in germany. a philosopher nancy frayza, was due to take up a visiting professor, shipping cologne, but had signed an appeal for solidarity with palestinians, which did not mention the mass attack. the invitation was withdrawn. professor judith butler formulated a provocative faces the bound october 7th. as for assistance and receive censure and criticism, crushing american bratia ma should guess and controversially compared garza to the will. so get us an award ceremony was post punk, the jewish artists and intellectuals to come back to anti semitism. the debate is increasingly froze. for decades, the less the cost of $6000000.00 jews seemed clear. jewish line needed to be
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protected in germany and israel. jesus told us to find fault on thoughts on its tires, desktops, presume, minus line. the reason of states, the 10 form of jim and chancellor la metal used in 2000. the nice has shaped the discussion in germany with some questionable consequences. defendants in the dalton c in germany at the moment is that freedom of expression must be limited in fine will if there was even the slightest suspicion of anti semitism in the app onto the reduced cause your google that's a real danger it does is on the goals like a file, in addition to germany use as a broad definition of anti semitism. the so called i h r a definition. it is widely used numbers, expense, st, it's problematic given for the ultimate safety. they want to match the key think that's any end of the criticism of the state of israel,
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or these rouse policies is anti semitism. then you create an unfounded definition or idea of what on to some of the some is all of that is what was my age, all right, documented create spelled sorry the me the stuck them in the ira when the definition of anti semitism gets. so go test me broad and then it becomes very easy to lose sight of the actual violent anti semitism that truly continues to threaten the safety of, of, of jewish people all over the world. german politicians are currently struggling to come up with a new resolution on anti semitism based on the controversial i h. all right, definition, the cultural thing is alarmed will also set the political views examined. will public funding be dependent on tossing the test around? 90 percent of the gym and cultural same could be effected as
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a resolution in parliament the right way to combat the anti semitism. many people already fee that gemini has suffered damage to its reputation as a cultural center. osh, it's like steve sabelle a say freedom of expression on the threats that came to live in germany by choice, you know, to live in the land of free thoughts, free expression. ok for me, but mean probably the last city that really embrace is or embraced. so impression freedom and it's really sad that we reach the point we, we don't see that state of freedom like it used to be. it's difficult to palestinians like states to better in germany, the country to try to the holocaust and has made israel security. a reason of states is struggling with its relationship to palestinians. godfrey refused to, and germany's history is a stumbling block. an obstacle on the way to complete solidarity with the palestinians,
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sorry to be paid to the police and ends on protest as often use the controversial slogan free. palestine from jim and deal of has skills blown to germany, to injustices against the palestinians. the adult think that it's good for germans about 1st time. from here we start, germans don't have good for they have good for the jewish nation, which is justified. but see this cannot happen at the expense of others. this is why i believe germany, the domestic mistake, instead of helping me get all this to me and to reach a solution, it's actually occurs the occupation of bodies has germany. it's not the interest to the palestinians. for decades, germany was busy facing up to its responsibility for the whole coast that enterprise in many parts of the world. but it says something now and this with this
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picture, for as long as the consequence of the holocaust is an almost the actual performance of paternalistic filing. semitism in this country will not have done the true work that needs to be done towards having a healthy conversation around jewishness around genocide and your own. the obligations of the state of israel the gospel has treat demonstrations as the world. people are taking to the streets everywhere, in some cases, pro and anti israel, demonstrations faceoff directly the
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but the vast majority of international demonstrations, a pro palestinian and critique site, the protest. his question is, well, very right to exist. many is riley's fuel colton. across his we are target to defend and kind of the isolated from the rest of the world in a way we are, we are viewed as a us for right. yeah. as you know, the kind of group that has very unique e role. actually, universities are becoming focal points of protest and many colleges, jewish students feel intimidated and threatened some have been attacked. on the other hand, jewish students also take part in demonstrations against the one concept protests with which the tim genocide is often used to describe what's happening there with
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insight as much as black history was probably my thinking of an american slavery. this thing that's happening there is no tribes, and this will fight, you know, for the liberation of these people. because that story is our story as well. is the story of humanity. many students reference point is the discussion that's been taking place at universities for years. the debate about colonialism and its consequences in the field of post colonial studies. israel is often described as a colonial state and the palestinians as victims. in the time around the founding of israel, around $700000.00 palestinians fled over expelled. they called the next by the catastrophe. as many jewish people said, israel was this salvation in the wake of the holocaust. they came as survive as not colonial, most as go buy stuff. not quite the, this was no yeah, to colonial movement. the full boom begins. tell me the problem begins when the
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parents return to the jews depaula style. you know, there's a time to achieve self determination on palestinian territory. clashes with the rights of others often to be told by this female to for relatively soon, it becomes colonialism for the moment. the rights of this population who monica child, who's in be well then will you fix the piece of the for the gold fish making bells and i or so many rejects. the view is doing this a put in ohio state as a state in 1948, but they do seem that the 1967, okay. patient and what it has to be called ortiz, what it hasn't been worked into locally, under the impetus of miss unaccented movement and extreme right wing their secular ears. a and e is casanya using the venue a month,
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plus call me on, argues against the colonialism of the $67.00 settlement policy for these in the right. so it will be as allies in the critics who live in israel and the like me to bring that to in the typical and v as a nice let me get re why the room is fine. as well as occupied the west bank east jerusalem. and the gaza strip since 1967, a situation that the international court of justice recently described as a legal. it's long being clear that is really settlements and legal coupon palestinian tell the truth illegal on the international law. the postcolonial conversation has taken on a new dynamic in recent years. striking contributions to the debate have come from the global sounds, especially from countries that have a history of colonization by europe. a history of imperialism and genocide, which they have experience is coming into focus. does this change the views, the whole cost? until now?
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it's been the central moral point of reference for the western world, influential indian think of paying cash. michelle argues for shifting values, recovering from the ravages of imperialism in their own countries. most still invest in people. when in no position to appreciate the magnitude of the heart of the radical twin, nope, that imperialism inflicted on g. as in your how does that affect views on the history of israel and the palestinians? most of the world is i'm trying to buy the burden of christian european canister with a show and does not regard the creation of israel as a moral necessity to absolve the sense of 20th century europeans us for more than 7 decades. now, the argument among the sofa, the peoples has remained on non strictly the same. why should the finance be dispossessed and punish for the crimes, and which on the europeans become
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a contentious standpoint that some say could be misused if any soley us escrow, i'm a historian 50 only and it is clear to me that this is about relative. i'm seeing the show me also said the that means the post colonial mindset is not the most important thing for the. and they also stay the 1st. we have the attempt to either deny or relative eyes, the holocaust. you will see the in this way, the show is not only relative eyes. your, it is lovely, disappears into the ponds though it is sometimes even justified. big one to the you, those i felt table with it's like saying what the if the jews, a monitoring palestinians today, if i can then it was not actually wrong to try to magic choose in the past was what was the post colonial view and to summarily cultural because it seemed to raise the evaluation of the whole coast as a universal moral standard symbols that group all of it has to be the global
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reference point for all times. what the as far back is when people even begin to think over generations for as long as the world is shaped by anti semitic traditions practiced. unfortunately, because of the owner goes to know that it does not matter. and part of the time, i believe we should never forget the 100 because what happened to the jews, it's very important that to remember, you know, we should remember so that we don't to repeat this mistake, this atrocious act, interstate, the dominates functions thinks worldwide is impels some to show solidarity with palestinians, even some in the jewish community, but others feel betrayed by the political lift. for me, i view the work movement and the profound be trail as
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of the less and i think of all the id and then the left stood for which is universe autism, which is separation of states and religion. and which is the struggle against a inequality and putting human dignity at the center of institution and creating new lane institution and fighting consent patients of power. this is the left for me. this is steve very, i mean, it's the scene very much needed a gen dot. while the process continues, opinions differ radically so many grapples with the question of with the freedom of austin opinion should be restricted in order to prevent anti semitism. the debate was read nicely following some of the statements of the building film festival in
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2024. it's easy to forget that the greatest entity jews may come from a different direction. in demo man was there for you. that was leaving the moment when many muslims come to your i mistake bringing anti semitic ideas that alone out of anti semitism with them female you have to be careful with one of the adult health person a lot. and despite this week, if i would say that the danger from the left when you fall, so the danger from the muslim function is relatively limited compared to the changes coming from the rank to go above most of them. there's google to correct this threat to the safety of jewish people in this country are in fact right wing, white germans, white is no nationalist wide and 2 semites who are on the rise in this country. when john list and politicians in this country start to claim that the
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primary threat or the the most ominous threat to jewish lives in this country comes from left us and intellectuals from progressive jewish beings from muslim refugees or from, from most of them in arab germans. it is a denial of german responsibility for anti semitism, the field trip, the 7 terrorist attacks and to warren guns that have she could separately participates in politics and culture. how fun is jim and responsibility for israel go off to the show. where does anti semitism begin? who is a victim who is a perpetrator, or will the ever be a consensus around a 100 hostages, a still being held and casa, is, randy ami is still bombing the gaza strip on top of it on how to handle such
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differing views. the only way to flight it will take id is, is to fight them with good id. yes. and knowledge and a scholarship to steve civility should have done in university ways, right? he's in palestinians line and work together. his work has become more difficult and even more important. suddenly there is an excess of identity on all sides. you know the became more difficult because people feel somehow unix of time didn't come on both of those of the countries. you know, they don't look like they're going to be alone with their own eyes. maybe certain people need to be able to show the students bring intel here in us. and then you need to form your own opinions of jim and tell us jenny and rice, how you want to osmond has been active in a piece initiative since 2012 together with these riley's palestinians under
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radians. she doesn't want to give up this work, even though dialogue is now hot and it's everything i've seen since yet. and then, oh, that's fear. it is absolutely essential. not that we use the word piece now, especially now. now move in as a vice for a month for me. and i know from my friends in israel and the palestinian territories, that the wood piece has become a contentious, what kind of investment and kind of pushed nobody uses at any loss at 1st. there's nobody talks about peace, let's move it takes us to get this. this is something that really gives me the feeling that this way of thinking of all vision division of people into normal peace loving people. and those who jeopardize piece that this is actually the real front, if you like. that's i can please evolve the font is fremont,
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and there are many, many more peace loving people. then extreme events, an old coolness of the load as a semester. and i, and i think these are that piece seems further away than ever. but if there is one place where difficult debates can take place, shouldn't not be in the world of culture. the
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