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sold virus has claimed lives cause massive economic disruption, and scientists are telling us to expect more of these extreme weather conditions and to prepare. so is your ready or even guessing ready? i'm feel guided ballot and this is the day the books about civil, but i believe we really need to realize that the scale of the floods that have the effective dose is enormous. the losses are unimaginable for the city. all the bridges are broken, asphalt is coming off. the city looks like an apocalypse issue. the damage is a numerous. a human suffering is great. good old everything is destroyed. welcome to the day,
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at least 21 people on that i know to have died in flooding across central and eastern europe. imagine low pressure system over northern easily send record amounts of writing across australia, the czech republic, poland, hungary, and romania. so these are all the running full full costs for the next few days with the heavy as precipitation, locked in the blue, with the river level, still rising evacuations continuing. the cloth rooms at the school in romania should be filled with children at this time of day. instead, the teachers are busy cleaning up the damage from days to flooding. the night is that the time we had slots the, what are the, the end or to school? you mean now we have no more laptops to work. since you are not interested in my house is also flooded for the 1st time. thinking on that though, i know how the children and their parents feel, i think that these books and toys attended by kindergarten when you just a week ago. and then now destroyed the county of galati in east and
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romania was one of the air is worst affected by the floods. the inundated central and eastern europe. and as the residents here come to terms with the extent of the damage, all the parts of europe is still bracing to be arrival of flood waters. here in south west poland, local residents to binding together to help police and beyond me, build flood vari is along the older river and it's tribute trees. think the supports we are trying to make it stable. there are leaks in some places, but we are trying to patch them up as soon as possible with sun box, which people have been making here seems this morning. they watched me stuff for him, the other i hope that we can keep them by mid us. they are some of our subjects on a race against time. neighboring parts of poland have already been
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completely submerged to their hands. most influential is an expert on climate risks and outpatient the your pan environment. agents in joining us from copenhagen, welcome to dw, is it inevitable? the flooding emergency is like we're currently seeing in central and eastern europe will become more dangerous and more extended. or yeah, that isn't quite the very relevant question that many people, instead of seeing those tragic images from different parts of central europe at the mall. and unfortunately, the excitement related with the results having to take occasion increasing due to my, my ad global heating. and it will further increase in the coming decade, so that increases those advert avoidable however,
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we can always improve how we can pay for the situation in terms of how we use the land, how we set up less protection as emergency services. and of course it just remains important. limited global heating so that the overall risk we main manageable. it is interesting that if you take the example of germany where i'm speaking to from now and, and one of the, the flooding disasters that, that, that we, we had, we had from a, an expert and it literally today who said that in some areas exactly the same buildings have been, have been built in exactly the same place. so if exactly the same thing happens, we'll have exactly the same result. it, it seems like the message isn't necessarily getting through that. we have to change as yeah, that is indeed an important fund based by the expert. i mean one of the,
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uh, principles in life, in general, runs in particular and managing our signagees and other risk is to learn from this space. and this is known as building back back back to her officer with disaster. and i mean, it's not the role of to look in detail for the countries are doing. but i understand from different conversations that there are still a lot of administrative constraints in place. maybe political pressure to with the quickly also insurance related, constrained that indeed lead to the situation that you describe rebuilding to try to do things in the same way twice as part of the last. so i would say whether it's changed into a new territory of the administrative procedure. so sure solution need to become more flexible to avoid just we creating their situation there are ready,
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dangerous. i proved to be dangerous. i suppose we're not just talking about the loss of human life. what are your predictions for the effects of flooding on critical infrastructure and economic activity? yeah, that is a very important point. as i mean, even just the economic damages from florida can be for an individual event. can be seen the i you mention germany the estimates are about there's a flash protecting germany and the par and the last. the belgium in 2021 are more than 40000000000 drawing damages. this is jamie substantial. if you look one year back for being a significant part of the comfortable slot is the damage and there are between 10 and 16 percent of the national economic product.
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so basically the work of around 2 of months was destroyed and see and of course has long term impact on public finances on the insurance spices on credits, raging sense on right. so that was made statements, dramatic music and impacts on the infrastructure on the economy. and of course, all right, so as you look around the world, where do you see examples perhaps of best practices? who should we be learning from well, we're not using the term best practice in, in our va context. use case studies are maybe good practice examples. and it was interesting that's another last was less expected in terms of the phenomena, damages and also a lot of license in traveling salesman in the spring flood. and of course,
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they have a long tradition and secure the country from water folks from the peace side, the river and for a number of decades to have a program called room for the river, which create flood folders. it can be flooded. me see here brands and basically our offer when the river capacity is worth officials. of course, this is offering for memphis and other countries specified germany that i've seen discussions around all the time. but we look at a short term in transferring events. the cloud grows copenhagen. there's also an example of a city that has learned from a very strong weak it's actually back to 2011. is an option strongly into a kind of form city. think about green areas making sure want that can be stored in be charged down to, to see copenhagen. it's a conference with you, of course,
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i like that idea, sponge se, se, and we'll leave it at a thank you so much for guiding us through that. how does most in 1st from the european environment agency thanks hope you're well the floods of also have the austrian capital vienna, but the cities resisting them is a little cap. the massive flood defense system built in the 19 seventy's and eighty's. austria is capital vienna wouldn't exist without the danube river. but over the centuries, the city has experienced a series of devastating floods. including in 1954 that inspired a mass of g o engineering project. the creation of an artificial arm of the river, of the so called new danube, running parallel, still a body of water controlled by dams, that in times of trouble saves the day. the danube river is nearly 3000 kilometers
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long and flows through 10 european countries. when it gets to vienna, during normal times, it continues to flow along its ancient root. but if the water level rises to high floodgates northwest of the city, open up the new danube, which can absorb the huge volumes of extra water south, east of the city. the new danube joins the river and the city stays above the water . the project was controversial and took 16 years to pull off, but the city got a bonus. the danube island made of the earth if it was excavated for the new river channel, the sheep grades here along side city dwellers out for relaxation. however, the city has not been completely immune to the most recent floods. a small stream has flooded in recent days, putting parts of the city under water. but nothing like what would happen if the daniel overran its banks. the new
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danube a win win situation for the city. one solution to buy time as climate change raises flood risk worldwide. gemini introduced types of controls on his board as this week. and i moved to a cub migration and cross border crime. passport controls have been extended to all of germany's board a since monday. the move is drawing protests and criticism from neighboring countries of the threats to freedom of movement. and also the push back of a regular migrants who were denied entry of a change comes as the debates over asylum seekers and irregular migrants becomes increasingly fractures getting gently on the cross. your view and not high commissioner for refugees is criticized what he calls the 18th nature of your immigration debates. matthew salt la chaise, global spokesman for europe at the office of the un high commissioner for refugees in geneva. a welcome to the top. you. what do you say you in
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a sales view of germany's decision to expand for the checks and turned back in regular migraines at the border? the 1st thing to say about germany is that it's been a long standing support of refugees, both helping with the humanitarian, sorry, with the systems abroad. alberto, site and welcoming refugees and assign him, see, cuz there's something like 1000000 refugees hosted that on 360000 migrants in terms of the specific border control as well. those have already been in place in the east of the country. um, some other for the reasons for over a year they've now been extended to the west and the north. i think what's important from our perspective is that we've been told we are assured that asylum seekers, people who are seeking international protection off still being allowed to do that in germany. so, well, that's the case. um, you know, it's, it's,
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it's important that the, the germany works for solutions. internationally with is your partner with international organizations as well. jonah's interior minister non suffice a has site based measures a timeframe. and that intended to protect against an acute and immediate expressive is domestic stream is the terrorism, and serious cross for the crime. i'm what the you say, a lawyer understands that people have c is about security and a little bit debate has been framed around control. but what we think is important to stress is that a displacement is a global crisis. the vast majority of refugees are in fact being hosted in less wealthy countries and indeed in countries neighboring that right. yes, migrants and asylum see cuz i'm moving to europe. but if you look at the actual numbers so far this year, crossing the mediterranean anyway,
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there's something like a 110000 arrivals. that's a large number. don't, don't get me wrong. but if you go back a couple of years, the numbers were a higher still, and if you go back a decade, they were much higher. so i think we think that this crisis is manageable and it needs a number of different solutions to be put in place. okay? so you, would you agree that this is a crisis? even if it's a manageable price is a manageable price is doesn't sound like an emergency as well. we think the situation is manageable if it's not a specific crisis in europe right now. and i think the numbers that i just mentioned that out. but we do understand that there are concerns, and we think that much more can be done in europe to make this sign them system more manageable in their efficiency. these that can be made for a stop,
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a speeding up asylum processors, working internationally to try to support returns for those people who are not refugees who do not need international protection. but i think most importantly is working together to address the fundamental root causes of why people moving. and that is obviously starts with conflict, but it goes into climate and it also goes into migration, economic issues and poverty. so what we're trying to do as an agency is work to try to support people where they are close to the displacement situations. so they don't feel come out to move and make these dangerous journeys, in this case towards your and towards germany. and as i sit here and watch this debate play out, what do you make of a total of the database on migration and assign them here in germany at the moment of what i think the tone in europe and in many parts of the world has become
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quite fractious, that has been a movement towards the right politically and a number of areas. and we also have the role of social media, which has been enabled uh, uh for the transmission or misinformation and this information. and we saw that particular with the rights in the u. k. so i think it's very important that people have good factual information on the systems asylum systems, in this case strength. and so that those people who genuinely need international support and protection can get that. and people who don't require that and who may be moving for other reasons, kind of have all the solutions, we think that's a very important part to follow. it's interestingly you say that the positive pos of the solution, as i understand what you said, is to works together to try and manage migration closer to the souls
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of where people are trying to get away from. and yet, governments around the world, i can think of the u. k. and the u. s. 2 specific examples when they try to do deals with, with countries, whether it be libby or, or other countries in north africa, or indeed we took a to, to keep microns away from the shows in closer to where they jumped off in the 1st place. they're off and criticized. was there also the specific deals and arrangements that you mentioned? but i think more proudly than that, rather than looking at uh, bilateral solutions, maybe between one region and one country which can be important. it's really important to try to get to grips with the fundamentals of why people are moving in the 1st place. yes, there's a proliferation of conflicts and emergencies in a number of parts of the world. we think more can be done in she monetary and
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development 8 to help those people where they are. but then in addition to that, when people do move, they can be mod, done in terms of asylum systems, in terms of efficiency. and in terms of finding international corporation and agreements, so that those people who don't have the right to our irregular entrance, if you like, can be returned time. this is very difficult. it's not easy. it takes a long time to put these things in place. and i think a lot of politicians look for perhaps a quick fix when it comes to that. a building was putting out barriers, pushing people back in boats, and trying to stop a rescue and see is not the solution because that just puts lives in danger. and tokens there, thank you for joining us. matthew salt, match from the office of the you a nice you thank you. the
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mess up has issued a total panel of russian state media outlets sizing, foreign influence activity, and claiming, yeah, that's of use deceptive tactics to carry out covert influence operations on line methods. platforms include facebook and instagram. the band on out. that's like russian state broadcast. the r, t and russ, who has a good and yet a comes after us, the justice department charged ok. employees with money laundering and producing comp time to influence the us presidential elections of russia. and of course, as we acted anxiety, his criminal spokesman to meet you pass golf. meta is discredited thing itself with these action your some domains due to such alexi, vaccines against russ and media are unacceptable and my chain we have an extremely negative attitude towards this and this of course complicates the process. thanks for normalizing our relations with meta let's look at this with just to ensure an a
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c, e o of global cyber strategy is a non resident senior fellow at the atlantic council. it joins us from washington, d. c. welcome to d w. that was more about what max assess, these companies have been doing a resume. this decision pretty much for one simple reason which is that the us government just a few days ago now came out and sanctioned our t for a variety of information warfare and other activities as described to across the united states and elsewhere to spread propaganda. this information and related to that, as we heard, the state department has essentially said that r t is like an arm, which i agree with this of the russian intelligence services he so you know, it's no shocker that meta is not exactly the leading human rights organization right, this or, or are even more conservative in protecting speech and other things than many of
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the other apps. and so it was only the sanctioning that has now prompted meta to essentially kick or t along with a variety of other russian propaganda outlets off of its platform and its distribution eco system. i don't understand why we always just presume the russian state media outlets with propagandist and essentially up to no good to well, we certainly could go back a long while with that right. to process the or truth as, as it translates in the soviet union. so there, there has been a long history, even within the proven regime of controlling news outlets of manipulating them for state purposes and r t has been at the forefront. a parenting lies about everything from cove into the war on ukraine. and so, yes, it has been well known for a long time, what r t is doing? the difference here is that in 2014 ukraine band or to germany in other
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countries of sense band r t a google and apple removed a bunch of archie applications following rushes full on invasion of ukraine and fab 2022. so, we're seeing this sort of trends here where met a, despite, as you said, the obviousness of our to use propaganda has taken 2 and a half years since this fall, one more to finally take down this, this, this information back into some, regardless of what dmitri pest gulf assessment just rush it. okay. what's the facebook or instagram? the that the outlets have been banned on these platforms that withdrawal, that the band in russia to exactly. and so i was sort of laughing at our love of the lovely russian officials, comments there. they do and they don't care. so the reason they do care is because
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facebook has left r t o, which is enabled the spread of r t propaganda and propaganda from these other couple outlets. archie is the most prominent, but it's allowed to the russian govern spread lives on facebook and instagram and other places. regardless of whether or not people in russia are legally permitted to access those services. so the russians do care that they've lost the vector for spreading their propaganda and for doing that effective way through major online services. at the same time, the russian government doesn't care because as you know, that they have already banned meta products in russia. the russian government also has a designated meta as a terrorist organization in russia. and one might sort of laugh at that, but that's legitimate or in russia's eyes for a couple of reasons. one is that they genuinely see these western platforms as
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tools of western governments as tools of berlin as tools of washington. and so they really have a lot of fear around facebook. so this plays into with russian already things right they, they probably are not surprised in the kremlin that has done this. they will use this as further confirmation. bias of the fact that online media is really very well that everybody hates us. and we don't care as that the chance once when once when do we expect that to be any sort of reaction beyond blast to, to this it's it's hard to say i don't particularly think so directly at meadow, right. as i said, they've already designated met a terrorist organization and they've already banned access in russia to the facebook and instagram. now thankfully, that doesn't completely work, but it has worked for enough people that it's very harmful. so i don't think we'll see more against them better, but i do think this is going to increase rushes,
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how vocal they are, and about western media and about western social media platforms. and i also think it's gonna lead to more restrictions at home. because the more that the kremlin worries people accessing facebook, the more they're going to clamp down. all right, thanks for guiding you through that justin. justin sherman from global side, but strategies. thank you so much. thank you. and that's the day in the fall i team on social media at dw news light just headlines, available around the club costs, the w dot com or on the d. w. have a good the
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