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sold virus has claimed lives cause massive economic disruption, and scientists are telling us to expect more of these extreme weather conditions and to prepare. so is your ready or even guessing ready? i'm feel guideline balance and this is the day. the books about sit open, i believe we really need to realize that the scale of the floods that have affect your task is enormous. the losses are unimaginable for the city. all the bridges are broken, asphalt is coming off. the city looks like an apocalypse issue. the damage is a numerous human suffering is great, good old for the middle. everything is destroyed. welcome to the day at least 21 people on that i know to have died in flooding
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across central and eastern europe. imagine low pressure system over northern easily send record amounts of writing across australia, the czech republic, poland, hungry, and romania. so these are all the reading from forecasts for the next few days with a heavy is precipitation locked in the blue with the river level? still rising evacuations continuing. the cloth rooms at the school in romania should be filled with children at this time of day. or instead, the teachers are busy cleaning up the damage from days to flooding the night. that's the time we had slots the what are the the entered the school? did you meet now? we have no more laptops to work. since you're not interested in my house is also flooded for the 1st time. thinking on that though, i know how the children and their parents feel, i think that these books and toys attended by kindergarten when you just a week ago. and then now destroyed the county of galati in east and
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romania was one of the air is west effected by the floods. the inundated central and eastern europe. and as residents here come to terms with the extent of the damage. all the parts of europe is still bracing to the arrival of flood waters. here in south west, poland, local residents to binding together to help police and beyond me, build sludge bar is along the older river and it's tribute trees. think the supports we are trying to make it stable. there are leaks in some places, but we are trying to punch them up as soon as possible with sun box which people have be making here. seems this morning, a voice mail stuff for them. the other, i hope that we can keep them on minutes as they are out with some of our kicks on a race against time. neighboring parts of poland have already been
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completely submerged. to grab this boss and fizzle is an expert on climate risks and add up taishan that the your pan environment agents and joins us from copenhagen. welcome to dw, is it inevitable? the flooding emergency is like we are currently seeing in central and eastern europe will become more dangerous and more extended. yeah, that isn't quite a very relevant question that many people, instead of seeing those tragic images from different parts of central europe at the mall. and unfortunately, the excitement related to resolve, having to take occasion has been increasing due to my lives at global heating and will further increase in the coming decade. so that increases those as it is available. however,
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we can always improve how we compare for the situation in terms of how we use the land, how we set up less protection as emergency services. and of course, it just remains important to limit global heating. so that's the overall risk remain manageable. it is interesting that if you take the example of germany where i'm speaking to from now and, and one of the, the flooding disasters that we, we had, we had from a, an expert and it literally uh today who said that in some areas exactly the same buildings have been, have been built in exactly the same place. so if exactly the same thing happens, we'll have exactly the same result. it seems like the message isn't necessarily getting through that. we have to change. yeah, that is indeed an important fund based by the expert. i mean,
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one of the principals in life, in general, right, in particular in managing our signagees and other risk is to learn from this space . and this is known as building back back back to her officer with disaster. and i mean, it's not the role of to look in detail for the countries are doing. but i understand from different conversations that there are still a lot of administrative constraints in place. maybe political pressure to rebuild quickly. also, insurance related, constrained and indeed lead to the situation that you describe rebuilding to try buildings in the same way twice as part of the last. so i would say whether it's changed into a new territory of the administrative feature. so sure solution need to become more flexible to avoid just we creating the situation there are ready dangerous. i
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proved to be dangerous. i suppose we're not just talking about the loss of human life. what are your predictions for the effects of flooding on critical infrastructure and economic activity? yeah, that is a very important point. i mean, even just the economic damages from a flood can be for an individual event, can be to the height. you mentioned germany. the estimates are about there's a flash, protecting jeremy and the person and the last, the belgium in 2021 are more than 40000000000. you're in damages such as jamie substantial. if you look one year back for being a significant part of the countries, the slot is the damage and there are between 10 and 16 percent of the national economic product. so basically,
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the work of around 2 of them was destroyed and fees and of course have long term. in fact, some public finances on the insurance devices on the credits, raging sense on right. so that was made statements, domestic needs. it can impact on the infrastructure on the economy and of course, all right, so as you look around the world, where do you see examples perhaps of best practices? who should we be learning from well, we're not using the term best practices in our va contracts used to case studies are maybe good practice examples. and it was interesting that's another land was less expected in terms of the phenomena, damages and also a lot of license and $70000.00 in the spring flood. and of course they have
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a long tradition and secure the country from water folks from the pci, but. busy river and for a number of decades to have a program called room for the river, which create flood folders. it can be flooded, senior vans and basically our offer, the way that the river capacities were physicians. of course, because of the inter memphis in other countries specified germany that i've seen frequently for the discussions around all the time. and it's, but we look at a short term and transferring it back to the cloud version of behavior was also an example of a city that has learned from a very catastrophic. it's actually back to 2011. this notion strongly into a kind of form, city being well green area, making sure water can be stored and can be shuttled down to a to see
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a copenhagen's, a conference with you. of course, i like that idea sponge. say say we're living at a thank you so much for guiding us through the hands of motion 1st from the european environment agency. thanks. hope you're well the floods of old. so here's the austrian capital vienna, but the cities resisting them is a little caught. the massive flood defense system built in the 19 seventy's and eighty's. austria is capital vienna wouldn't exist without the danube river. but over the centuries, the city has experienced a series of devastating floods. including in 1954 that inspired a mass of g o engineering project. the creation of an artificial arm of the river of the so called new danube running parallel. still a body of water controlled by dams, that in times of trouble saves the day. the danube river is nearly 3000 kilometers
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long and flows through 10 european countries. when it gets to vienna, during normal times, it continues to flow along its ancient root. but if the water level rises to high floodgates northwest of the city, open up the new danube, which can absorb the huge volumes of extra water south, east of the city. the new danube joins the river and the city stays above the water . the project was controversial and took 16 years to pull off, but the city got a bonus. the danube island made of the earth if it was excavated for the new river channel, the sheep grades here along side city dwellers out for relaxation. however, the city has not been completely immune to the most recent floods. a small stream has flooded in recent days, putting parts of the city under water. but nothing like what would happen if the daniel overran its banks. the new
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danube a win win situation for the city. one solution to buy time as climate change raises flood risk worldwide. gemini introduced types of controls on his board as this week. and i move to a cub migration and cross border crime. passport controls have been extended to all of germany's board a since monday. the move is drawing protests and criticism from neighboring countries of the threats to freedom of movement. and also the push back of a regular migrants who were denied entry of a change comes as the debates over asylum seekers and irregular migrants becomes increasingly fractures getting gently on the cross. your view and not high commissioner for refugees has criticized what he calls the age of nature of yours immigration debates. bathrooms, salt la chaise, global spokesman for europe at the office of the un high commissioner for refugees in geneva. a welcome to the top. you. what do you say you in
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a sales view of germany's decision to expand forward to checks and turned back in regular migraines at the border? the 1st thing to say about germany is that it's been a long standing support of refugees, but of helping with the humanitarian. sorry, with the systems abroad. alberto, site and welcoming refugees and assign him, see, cuz there's something like 1000000 refugees hosted that on 360000 migrants in terms of the specific border control as well. those have already been in place in the east of the country. um, some other for the reasons for over a year they've now been extended to the west and the north. i think what's important from our perspective is that we've been told we are a show that asylum seekers. people who are seeking international protection off still being allowed to do that in germany. so, well, that's the case. um, you know, it's, it's, it's important that the,
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the germany works for solutions internationally. whether it's your partners with international organizations as well. jonah's interior minister, not as if i as a, has site based measures a timeframe. and that intended to protect against an acute and immediate expressive is the most extreme. is the terrorism and serious cross for the crime. i'm what the, you say a lawyer understands that people have c is about security and a little bit to pay it has been framed around control. but what we think is important to stress is that a displacement is a global crisis. the vast majority of refugees are in fact being hosted in less wealthy countries and indeed in countries neighboring that right? yes. migrants and asylum see cuz i'm moving to europe. but if you look at the actual numbers so far this year, crossing the mediterranean anyway,
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there's something like a 110000 arrivals. that's a large number. don't, don't get me wrong. but if you go back a couple of years, the numbers were a higher still, and if you go back a decade, they were much higher. so i think we think that this crisis is manageable and it needs a number of different solutions to be put in place. okay, so you, would you agree that this is a crisis? even if it's a manageable crisis, a manageable process doesn't sound like an emergency. as well, we think the situation is manageable if it's not a specific crisis in europe right now. and i think the numbers that i just mentioned that out. but we do understand that there are concerns, and we think that much more can be done in europe to make this sign them system more manageable in their efficiency. these that can be made for a stop,
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a speeding up asylum processors, working internationally to try to support returns for those people who are not refugees who do not need international protection. but i think most importantly is working together to address the fundamental root causes of why people moving. and that is obviously starts with conflict, but it goes into climate and it also goes into migration, economic issues and poverty. so what we're trying to do as an agency is work to try to support people where they are close to the displacement situations. so they don't feel come out to move and make these dangerous journeys, in this case towards your and towards germany. and as i said, to watch this debate, play out, what do you make of a total of the database on migration and assign them here in germany at the moment of what i think the tone in europe and in many parts of the world has become
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quite fractious that has been a movement towards the right politically and a number of areas. and we also have the role of social media, which has been enabled uh, uh for the transmission or misinformation and this information. and we saw that particular with the rights in the u. k, so i think it's very important that people have good factual information on the systems asylum systems in this case strength. and so that those people who genuinely need international support and protection can get that. and people who don't require that and who may be moving for other reasons, kind of have all the solutions, we think that's a very important part to follow. it's interestingly you say that the positive pos of the solution, as i understand what you said, is to works together to try and manage migration closer to the souls
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of where people are trying to get away from. and yet, governments around the world, i can think of that the u. k. and the u. s. 2 specific examples when they try to do deals with, with countries, whether it be libby or, or other countries in north africa, or indeed we took a to, to keep microns away from the shows and closer to where they jumped off in the 1st place. they're off and criticized to withdraw some of these specific deals and arrangements that you mentioned. but i think more proudly than that rather than looking at uh, bilateral solutions, maybe between one region and one country which can be important. it's really important to try to get to grips with the fundamentals of why people are moving in the 1st place. yes, there is a proliferation of conflicts and emergencies in a number of parts of the world. we think more can be done in she monetary and
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development aid to help those people where they are. but then in addition to that, when people do move, that can be mod, done in terms of asylum systems, in terms of efficiency. and in terms of finding international corporation and agreements, so that those people who don't have the right to are irregular entrance, if you like, can be returned home. this is very difficult. it's not easy. it takes a long time to put these things in place. and i think a lot of politicians look for perhaps a quick fix when it comes to that. a building was putting up barriers, pushing people back in boats, and trying to stop rescue it. see, is not the solution because that just puts lives in danger. in talking to thank you for joining us. matthew salt match from the office of the united states. thank you . the mess up has issued
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a total panel of russian state media outlets sizing, foreign influence activity, and claiming, yeah, that's of use deceptive tactics to carry out covert influence operations on line methods. platforms include facebook and instagram, the band on outlets like russian state broadcast, a r, t, and ross, who has a good near a comes after us, the justice department charged ok. employees with money laundering and producing content to influence the us presidential elections of russia. of course has reacted including his crumbling spokesman to meet you pass golf. meta is discrediting itself with these action here. some domains due to such alexi, vaccines against russ and media are unacceptable. my chain, we have an extremely negative attitude towards this. and this of course complicates the prospects for normalizing our relations with meta let's look at this with just to ensure an a, c, e o, a global cyber strategy as
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a non resident senior fellow at the atlantic council. it joins us from washington, d. c. welcome to d w. that was more about what mex assessed. these companies have been doing that's made this decision pretty much for one simple reason which is that the us government just a few days ago now came out and sanctioned our t for a variety of information warfare and other activities as it described it across the united states and elsewhere to spread propaganda this information and related to that, as we heard, the state department has essentially said that r t is like an arm, which i agree with this of the russian intelligence services he so you know, it's no shocker that meta is not exactly the leading human rights organization, right? this or, or are even more conservative in protecting speech and other things than many of
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the other apps. and so it was only the sanctioning that has now prompted meta to essentially kick our t along with a variety of other russian propaganda outlets off of its platform and its distribution eco system. i don't understand why don't we always just presume that russian and state media outlets were a propagandist and essentially up to no good to well, we certainly could go back a long while with that right. to process the or truth as, as it translates in the soviet union. so there, there has been a long history even within the pollutant regime of controlling news outlets of manipulating them for state purposes. and r t has been at the forefront of parenting, lies about everything from code into the war on ukraine. and so, yes, it has been well known for a long time. what r t is doing? the difference here is that in 2014 ukraine band or to germany in other
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countries have sense band r t a google and apple removed a bunch of our t applications following rushes full on invasion of ukraine and fab 2022. so, we're seeing this sort of trend here where met a, despite, as you said, the obviousness of our to use propaganda has taken 2 and a half years since this fall, one more to finally take down this, this, this information mechanism. regardless of what dmitri pasco assess, it, just russia k. what's uh, facebook or instagram. the, that the outlets have been found on these platforms that withdrawal, that the band in russia. exactly. and so i am sort of laughing at our love of the lovely russian officials, comments there they do when they don't care. so the reason they do care is because
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facebook has left r t o, which has enabled the spread of r t propaganda and propaganda from these other couple outlets. archie is the most prominent, but it's allowed to the russian govern, spread lies on facebook and instagram and other places. regardless of whether or not people in russia are legally permitted to access those services. so the russians do care that they've lost the vector for spreading their propaganda and for doing that, the start of way through major online services. at the same time, the russian government doesn't care because as you noted, they have already banned meta products in russia. the russian government also has a designated meta as a terrorist organization in russia. and one might sort of laugh at that, but that's legitimate or in russia's eyes for a couple of reasons. one is that they genuinely see these western platforms as
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tools of western governments as tools of berlin as tools of washington. and so they really have a lot of fear around facebook. so this plays into a rush are already things right they, they probably are not surprised in the kremlin that has done this. they will use this as further confirmation bias and the act that online media is, is really very well that everybody hates us. and we don't care as that the chance once when once when do we expect that to be any sort of reaction beyond blast to, to this it's it's hard to say i don't particularly think so directly at meadow, right. as i said, they've already designated met a terrorist organization and they've already banned access in russia to the facebook and instagram. now thankfully, that doesn't completely work, but it has worked for enough people that it's very harmful. so i don't think we'll see more against that. but i do think this is going to increase rushes,
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a helpful goal. they are about western media and about western social media platforms. and i also think it's going to lead to more restrictions at home. because the more that the kremlin worries people accessing facebook, the more they're going to clamp down. all right, thanks for guiding us through that justin, justin sherman from global aside, but strategies. thank you so much. thank you. and that's the day in the fall. i tell you on social media at dw news lights headlines available around the club costs, the w dot com or on the d. w. have a good the
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