the the, this is dw news live in from berlin, more explosions in 11 on 14, people are dead and hundreds injured in a new series of blast walkie talkies exploded on wednesday and they wrote a day after thousands of pagers explode with apparently targeting members of hezbollah. also coming up, floods in central and eastern europe, have left a trail of destruction. thousands more evacuated as team to volunteers are trying to save their communities from the rising waters. and a showdown between the european union and hungary agree faces of fine for breaking you asylum laws. but the prime minister, victor, or button says he won't pay the fine and he won't take in asylum. see

the board golf reviewers watching on cbs in the united states. in to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin with a 2nd day of explosions in 11 on at least 14 people were killed and more than 400 injured. when walkie talkies exploded just a day earlier, thousands of pagers designated at the same time. pagers used by the militant group, hezbollah has, will begin using the devices in the hopes of avoiding is rarely surveillance of their mobile phones. the militant group is blaming israel for the explosions and says the attacks will not go unpunished. a fresh wave of explosions across 11 on some of them at the funeral of 3 has been our members and a child killed by exploding pagers the day before

a source close to has been the end rescuer said walkie talkies used by the group exploded as part of last hurting the route, and in the southern city of side, in a cell, phone shop caught fire after an explosion. there. the new blasts come as lebanon is still in shock. the day after, what's been described as an unprecedented attack. hundreds of pagers used by the militia group has been blew up over about an hour, killing at least a dozen people and injuring thousands. in the aftermath, many schools and shops are closed and residents are still reeling. automatic, what happened yesterday shocked us? it was unimaginable that no one could have thought that pages could explode like that. page of the vehicle. the scene was shocking. how people were toner. pause right in front of you though exploding right in front of you at the

minute. one blast was caught on camera in a statement read on lebanese television, hezbollah, which is considered a terrorist group by the you and others, place the blame squarely on israel, and bout, to punish the perpetrators of the attack. lebanese agreed with their message, but we will retaliate. we have to teach them a less than they con, forget. because those people, if they are not home, they will not be deterred. many has been that members were using the pagers because the group leadership had thought the older technology could have a tracking bias. real security experts believe is real. spike agency massage was able to insert a small amount of explosives into devices somewhere along the supply chain before they reached has block. hospitals and bay roads have been overwhelmed with the sudden rush of patients staff say they treated grisly wounds?

no. i will. the emergency doctor last night at the hotel the hospital. unfortunately, as everyone knows, we received injuries due to devices exploding and people's hands. some of the injuries were mainly to the eyes and hands which cost finger amputations trapped on the eyes. some people lost their site. so i don't know if the tensions are running high in lebanon has but i has already fired some 20 rockets into israel on wednesday in apparent retaliation for the attack the w's barrett bureau. chief mohammed trader has more now on this latest wave of explosions in less than a fresh wave off explosions hit live on on a while ago when a number of handheld radio was used by his beloved militants, dates an agent, at least one of the bloss to place near a funeral, organized by the group for those killed in the previous day. explosions, more explosions have been reported in different locations across the country. the

preliminary information suggest that walkie talkies, a pin okey dokey devices that are different from yesterday's pages. donated in houses, offices and costs across the country, causing a number of casualties which we haven't been able to identify and verify. yet this has been described as a humiliating moment for hezbollah. talked to me about how it's impacting, as well as a billy ability to offer rate as well. there's no doubt that it is this. it has massively disrupt that has been less operations and committed and control system. it is believed that hundreds, if not thousands, of as well as militants will be out of service at least for some time due to the injuries. this operation a today and yesterday obviously at aim to cut the means of communication between

hospitalized alternatives and to pose died of harm to the group personnel, but also to cause more damage to the party members and supporters to break the trust that the militant group is capable of fighting and, and then and the keeping up against is right. i think that has the law would need some time to digest these, these events and find and turn out this to, to store it's communication. and it's a command and control system, but also to the store the motors off at school pretends and supporters that are completely shocked by the scale of these attacks. despite the shock we are hearing that hezbollah is blaming israel for the attacks. and they've already carried out in the 1st cross border attack. so what do we know about this apparent retaliation? as well as the law so far claimed the 3 attacks, at least on the as well this afternoon. in a brief statement this morning, the militant group filed at to continue with the daily operation that they need

routine. cross stokes cross border shelving with as well as part of what the, the party calls a supporting from for a cause. i own a separate note. the parties out to retaliate to yesterday's massive security breach and a tax, but did not provide details about the nature of the retaliation. you know, the confrontation between the 2 rifles is based on a deterrence equation. and after these attacks, there's a general feeling that there's some sort of in balance in this and, and as well as perceiving this as an attempt to break this question. so we're just anticipating how that the militant group would respond. our bureau chief mohammed tray to with the latest from the root moment. thank you. we'll enjoy now by matthew 11th. he's an expert on counterterrorism and intelligence with the washington institute for near east policy enjoys be from washington dc. matthew is good to have you with this in 11 on. we have seen 2 waves

of attacks and as many days glass apparently targeting the iran backed militant group. how's the look, how much damage would you say i have we seen coming from these exploding devices as towards hezbollah? so we have not $1.00 to $2.00 sets of incidents yesterday. and today, 1st series of pages going off thousands and now handheld radios as well, simply cannot have any confidence in its supply chain and communication systems. there are reports that people 11 are throwing out all kinds of electronic items, including microwaves and whatnot. as well as ability to communicate with its operatives has been severely diminished. these are not pagers or walkie talkies that you could walk into a hardware store and pick up and loving on. these were procured by hezbollah, specifically for its operative. so it was very targeted against those people who

would be carrying them ended the effect is that as well, a wants to retaliate, but other than shooting small numbers of rockets just across these really border as well as going to be a little bit concerned about stepping too far, they could choose some longer range of rockets into israel, but they're not really prepared for their communications down to be able to contend with these really response i think is real here is trying to communicate has voted after 11 months, almost a year. and i find rockets into his country and forcing 60000 civilians to be displaced from their homes. enough is enough. an either has bull up pays attention to the diplomatic us effort led by him as costing and agrees to stop firing and meet the place and the border. or i anticipate the as well as will feel the need to take things upon themselves, militarily, redeployed hezbollah from the border. and this is an effort to say, we're serious. we don't want to do it, but we'll do it. and we have to, yeah, i want to pick up right there. and i'd like for you to listen to what the is really defense minister, go out what he said today while addressing is really soldiers. meanwhile,

is on the hill. but i believe, you know, we're at the start of a new phase in the war with the hall, with the homogeneity. now it goes over the sense of gravity is moving off, much multi meaning that we are like hating forces, resources, and energy to the northern region. and there we go. thank you. once a phone every hearing day, i mean, would you say that the past 2 days today and yesterday, these explosions were they the warning shots of imminent strength by israel in lebanon? and in other words, most side moves 1st followed by the idea. no, i don't think that they were on a warning strike. hello. yeah, i'm here. we're still here. okay. yeah. i don't think they were warning, striking. think was just the opposite. i think it's israel saying to has blah a step down. we don't want to do this whole sky war is these really cabinet did

just say that part of the war aims now to end up still with using the noise. then the defense minister is making clear the news really prospective. they've been the victim of almost daily hezbollah firings, and now they're going to focus on the north now that they largely defeated, i'm us in the south and trying and that skirmish, hopefully it ends without a war. and i think this is an effort to signal to has blood. there will be more costs if you continue to keep up the fight at the current level. even this level can be tolerated anymore even though we've tolerated it for 11 months is what these relatives are saying. i read today the one analysis is that the ability to do what we've seen in the past few days was about to be discovered by husband or hezbollah was going to be in a position to block israel's ability to do that. so israel had the choice, but to roll out the, the, these attacks of your assessment of that as so i've heard the same and i think it's

probably true, but it's not the case that it means that they had no choice. you know, you invest time and effort and intelligence operations and you don't necessarily act on all of them. this reportedly was put in place to be there in the event of full scale war to disrupt his vote, communications, and make it difficult for them to continue prosecuting said war now report at least some people and has blog kind of inkling to it. these really decided it was a use it or lose that moment. then they have to make a decision. it's not automatically did you necessarily use it? and so i think in the moment that this is a no, we should use it. now, even a head, a full scale, or in an effort to signal that we want to avoid full scale war, but there will be increasing efforts like these. we have capabilities. remember, this comes not as a one off, but after a series of his really intelligence cues. just a few days ago, they sent their special forces into syria, taking out in iranian facility. they are focused on preparing and delivering weapons that has blown just a few weeks earlier as bullet planned to fire rockets. it tells even to is really

security and intelligence headquarters is really find out about it. i've done a 5 where the launch is art. preemptively take out those launchers. it comes that itself comes just after the assassination of their most senior militant figure, fluid sugar, and a day later the assassination of home us later is melania into her. on for the migration of the iranian presidents in an i or g. c. safehouse, you guys are saying, we have intelligence capabilities. we intend to use them in an effort to bring this almost a year long war to a close it almost enough on the outside for layman such as myself. i mean, it almost, it looks like a cycle strike. i mean you've got just imagine people doing their business and all of a sudden pagers began exploding. and then the next day you've got people even going to the funeral. people who were killed the day before and walkie talkies began explorer gave me this has got to create a lot of paranoia, a lot of uncertainty and it's got to make it has the question any, something that they had considered to be certain 48 hours ago and that certainly

was the intent of the irony is that it comes as a result of his well actually trying to have better operational security back in february as well as we are hosting us roll out of give a public talk saying it is really don't need collaborators, they don't need agents, their agents are in your pockets or cell phone. if your wife's cell phones or kids cell phone, they can be tracked. they can be hacked, get rid of them, were giving you pages. mm hm. and they called this their blinding strategy to make it so that these realize couldn't see and couldn't hear what was happening in the end it backfired on because it gave these realize the opportunity to penetrate their supply chain and insert really just grams of explosives. and to thousands of devices. now having the effect that you just described, not only of completely up ending their communications networks, but making every has been a member of look over a, his or her shoulder. i imagine many has ball of people did not show up to work today. do, do you think before i let you go, do you think that the end effect of,

of this is going to be that high school is going to pull back? and we're going to see this work as deterrent because a lot of people are afraid that this is going to be the beginning of the wider conflict or into smart to answer that question. if i could, i'd be a much wellcare man. the reality is that this won't be just the only effort and they'll be communications, both public and private, that has blog in the hours and days to come up. it would be really good if it's both decided to declare divine victory if they didn't, 2006. so say that what they're doing is for the benefit of lebanese and begin to pull back a little bit. i don't know if that will happen. and i don't know that there will be a ceasefire in guys, which is the other thing that could lead hezbollah to stop shooting rockets. i know that these realities are very, very serious about communicating to hezbollah and then following through with their promise that if the diplomacy doesn't work, if they don't read, apply, and stop shooting on their own, that these realities will take matters into their own hands to defend their

citizens, so there's an end to end, as well as almost a year long rocket campaign against the north of the country. counter terrorism expert matthew levitz with the washington institute method. good talking with you of fascinating. also hearing your insights, we appreciate it. thank you. thanks for having yeah, the question, how did these explosions happen? nobody's believe that is real, most likely infiltrated the supply chain or the distribution network of the pages that exploded on tuesday. we have more now on the pagers and what experts say have to be inside in order for the devices to detonate. this isn't a paulo page or the model that exploded simultaneously across lebanon has the law started using that device is extensively last year for security reasons. unlike mobile phones, they can be traced. experts say most likely the pages contained explosives, possibly just 2 or 3 grams that were inserted at some point between manufacturer

and delivery. a bunch of supply and delivery chain are murky. the pages were marked with the logo of the gold apollo company in taiwan, but the company's chairman says his firm didn't actually make them go to this company. the ac has cooperated with us and has represented many about $4.00 for about 3 years. they also wanted to make pages and asked me if they could use our companies brand, name me in the paid is of they paid is the brand name fee and they designed it themselves. and he said he would you mind that takes us to hungary were b, a c, consulting is located in the capital booted past the address listed for b. a. c is a simple building that appears to be the legal headquarters for multiple firms.

at this point the picture grows even mark here, it's not clear yet if the a see actually made the devices, nor is it clear when hezbollah order them or when they arrived. it appears that at some point between order and delivery is real and intelligent service was able to get hold of the pagers and insert explosives and a detonator before delivery to hezbollah. the pages apparently ran for months before exploding signs of a sophisticated operation that must have been planned long before a r. it is a quick look now some of the other stories that are making headlines around the world. the you in general assembly has strongly backed a non binding resolution demanding an end to israel's occupation of the palestinian territories. within 12 months. it was supported by a 124 of a 193 members of the text is based on an advisory opinion from the international

court of justice, that labels israel's post 1967 occupation as unlawful. israel has rejected the resolution the u. s. federal reserve has slashed interest rates by half a percentage point to between 4.75 and 5 percent. it's the 1st cut. since the pandemic central bank also handed it further reductions later this year, the move will bring down the costs and where are we? including the costs of mortgages and credit cards in the us significant progress toward our goal. at least 23 people have died across the central and eastern europe as the region experiences its worst flooding in decades. a powerful store moved across the region. this we causing rivers and dams to overflow of rescue efforts are ongoing, but more bad weather is expected in the coming days. stolen is experiencing severe flooding. part of a larger price is affecting much of central europe. authorities expect water levels

to be above the alarm, especially these volunteers are helping secure the river banks and fears they could collapse assessments. they thought we'd like to secure who riverbank that we want them to prevent the flooding of unless instead of doing that i'm not far away. in slovakia, the new river has overflowed the dilute just forcing people to move to higher ground in the czech republic, some residents are evacuating as a precaution, following official orders. we have relatives here, but we didn't know it would be so big change in the age of the color. it brought us by surprise to outsource. so we had no time to arrange anything. ah solomon mysteries are too many are left to rely on rescue teams for help with some being

evacuated on rubber boats. some areas are starting to clean up, but others are facing more severe of other hungry is preparing for significant flooding, especially in budapest, where water levels are expected to beat this week. if thoughts are focused on keeping the river and its tributaries and check what $12000.00 soldiers on stand by with the european union once hungary to pay off hunger, we missed a deadline to pay a huge fine for breaking the use asylum rules were now the plans to deduct the fine from the funds earmarked for hungry in the european union's budget, the initial find, the 200000000 euros is growing by 1000000 euros every day that hungary does not pay . but hunger as prime minister the exorbitant he insist that he will not back down from his position or refusing to accept asylum seekers that he's been prime

minister of hungry since 2010. and progressively, victor opens position on migration has only holidays to the point where he uses extreme language divides you policies designed to share the burden of migration amongst european nations. there is no any chance to have any kind of compromise. and the agreement on the migration politically, it's impossible, but generally speaking for the next years, you know, because because legally b r a, how to say if we agree. so if you are a legally forced to accept something, what you don't like, how would you like to have a compromise on everyone's? it's impossible when large numbers of refugees started arriving into the you in 2015 and built a boat offense to keep the might. and when germany recently decided to re impose board a checks the welcome to german thompson, life shows to his anti immigration club. these long being the phone in the side of the, you know, making the turing numerous proposals on

a raft of issues like preventing you money from reaching ukraine and the, posing the countries process for joining the you. hungry has been boy, you cottage by many you leaders and ministers. while recently taking over the 6 months, chem and ship of you me to hold on use the role to launch a campaign which he called make your a great again, a rip off of drums. make america great against logan dave to form a president even praised all by enjoying the recent campaign debate support. let me just tear, but we're a leaders, victor, or a man. what are the most respected man? if they call him a strong man, he's just, he's a tough person. smart prime minister of hungry, full eroding the independence of the judiciary and restricting media. and jerry's from operating and hungry. who binds government has faced a number of legal cases from the you. fighting press always has its own being part of how does the hon gary and prime minister operates or dw jack

parakeet tells us more now about how hungary that show down with the you could play out there will that know to expect to pay the fine to be to be on this does not what we're expecting to happen. this 200000000, your a fine that was imposed by the european court of justice. it doesn't look like it's going to be paid. we haven't heard anything specifically about it yet, but what we do know is that the european commission plans to take money from the money that is sent to hungry to the hon, gary and government. i was of the use coffers and nights of the use budget and then they'll prevent some of that money from going. that's what we've heard. and who you spoke to us and say, here in brussels today, we don't know exactly how does that mean what, which of the money it will come. i've told it could potentially come i to of what's known as the resilience and recovery fund. this was money that was a markets and put together from the european union to get out of the cobit 9 team

comes i make, or it could go from some of the other funds that hungry enjoy. he's hungry, he's one of the net recipients of money. i would say the, you budget over for 1000000000 your raise, it gets out of the countries put more more money into the you budget and i don't take as much money i to is hungry does as you said in your report, this is not the 1st time that the hon gary and prime minister has been at odds with brussels with the you. what is different this time or specifically the court ruling. there is a judgement against hungry that a breached you rule some of the other cases, the hungry faces, for instance, issues regarding rule of rule, whether it's, whether you are paying commission believes it's breached it's, it's, it's a fundamental values regarding how it operates with the judiciary it's cracked, dialing on media and engineers. these are decisions that have been made by the commission. but in this instance, there is

a court decision by the european court of justice. not only the same. the hungry didn't abide by the us side. them rules that have to do more to support international law or to uphold the individual rights of asylum seekers. back in 201-540-0000 of them all passed through hon gary and so into the rest of the european union. and the c j says it didn't do that, and it's not only saying that it didn't do it, but there's also a specific number, an order of money this 200000000 your is that a court document says hungry must pay. it was jack parrot reporting from brussels. here's a reminder to all of our top story this our liberties. officials say at least 14 people have been killed, more than 400 injured and what appears to be a 2nd round of explosions of communication devices used by his beloved, this time walkie talkies were designated. it comes a day after thousands of pagers used by hezbollah exploded, killing 12 people, the militant group, blaine's israel for the explosions and says they will not go unpunished. you're

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