which is rarely war planes could be heard over baby roots are, is real and hezbollah headed for a full blown war. and what does this mean for israel's war against the mos in guns up? the us is still pushing for a ceasefire. they are, but with the front lines multiplying the escalation and diplomacy, they seem to be misplaced variables and an equation for war. i'm pretty golf and berlin. this is the day the, this is the closest that i think we've been to original voice since 1970. the veneers government does not perform poor, we have been 40 and now that really mobilized to try to avoid luck loosing today. so again, it's imperative that everyone avoid taking steps that could further escalator spread the costs. we don't see the government for the,

for such the escalation. it's brothers, the offices. i'd like to say i was optimistic, but it's difficult to see where that optimism would come from. also it coming up, russia and ukraine had both deployed drones in the world like never before to night . nato drills to take drones out of the sky. to disrupt this by real. i think it has been accepted within the alliance. it's a brand technology horizon. it's relatively inexpensive, it's relatively easy to employ these systems. so they have a menace factor as well as a very technologically real challenge to the airlines and to our viewers watching on cbs in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. but we begin to day in the middle east where the signs are pointing to more more. today the leader of hezbollah accused israel, of carrying out a massacre when thousands of pages in walkie talkies exploded in 11 on earlier this

week. most of the devices are reportedly used by members of hezbollah, and while israel has said nothing about the explosions, it has confirmed a change in military focus from garza in the south to its northern border with 11 on troops have already been moved into northern israel and today has villa and israel traded rocket fire across the border. we have more now on an entire region. on the break. fresh is riley strikes, hips, southern leaving on. while is really jude's flew love of, of a root breaking the sound barrier. the ex time to take place exactly as his beloved leader made this address. mother yell name over to day a 2nd or more minutes on tuesday. and then one minutes on wednesday, last history, the enemy was aiming to kill and no less than $5000.00 people in 2 minutes without

caring about any limits on the site. and they have no problem with where they are killed what they're doing and how they were killed, bobby, as well mindlessly when it be located yet. and dozens of people have been killed and thousands injured up to hundreds of pages and walkie talkies used by his black exploded. his beloved blames israel and admit the bombings have delivered a severe blog. while the attacks appear to have targeted the groups, members, many civilians have been caught up in the violence. hospitals have been overwhelmed . residence and now fearful of the electronic devices. somebody in the middle of a ship can we expect any good from himself? because children are being killed that are on the bed inside small devices, and they would that the need to deal with that. we don't even know of cost me

scared, my children, right? so being children, all of us involved them back all who can feel safe. but if we have 5000 injured and just to date on this isn't a small model as well. me about who can say, killed the phone. know when i heard about what happened, i left my phone on the motorcycle and walked away. and on my iphone with my system, and now i have, i signs and when concerns are running us about the life science and lithium batteries with my sibling stuff to avoid doing, we're touching the funds on of a fair ring. they might fix it, like it's a normal reaction. we are a country that has been hacked yet that we have nothing uh by that. so lemme through meanwhile is around his nose. acknowledge the attack. it's defense minister says the country isn't a new phase of war or the move i add to the goal is to safely retain the residence of the nose black to their himes to hold. as time goes by, has spun, i will pay an increase in price for the gold wheel. his velocities, it will continue its attacks on northern israel as long as the war and guns it

continues. and as vowing retaliation for the bombings of recent days. this latoya here is a big table in the studio, denied by our middle east analyst and shawnee was honest. surely it's good to have you with this. let's talk about the signaling we've been seeing a lot of signaling this week between israel and hezbollah. how do you read the messages that were delivered today by the leader of hesper o, a town speech far, far less. you know, we've seen him before. another speech is far more railed up and, and he was showing a lot of a compassion to the injured, you know, you as he would mandatory need to do. and, and of course at the same time saying, israel cost all red lines and we will find the time and the opportunity to, to get our way at with israel. and this is also the key here, the time and the opportunity basically his policies base has a very long, you know, a conflict that they're not in any rush in any way. they believe that the longer this war of attrition with israel last the way we could israel guess and you know,

they feel like very defiant, this is part of the strength and this the with in this war with israel. and he was, you know, going back to that as well in the speech. and at the same time as well seems to be trying with its actions in the last week. the showed up to a stronger. we don't necessarily accept the kind of unofficial rules of conduct that we've had so far and we're going to the boulder and, and, you know, try to poke, you know, closer to you and, and badger you and the whole 11 and if needed, because we're not accepting the rules of the game that you were trying to set. we also heard from the defense minister of israel today at what messaging were you reading there? it's a consistent message we're missing coming from his own last week. they're very clearly signaling the. the northern border is becoming the bigger issue is really is need to do with cost if it goes with the creative pressure from the israeli citizens who have been forced to evict their houses in the north of israel to go backwards with these to have some sort of a plan that will show when they might be able to come back. that's one thing. but

then also on the other hand, we also hearing from these around me, terry military. there's very little concrete actions still to be on in gaza. you know, there's still there in the will be for many years it had the needed to maintain a, this low, a low intensity conflict with, from us. but at the same time, there's no, you know, break through operation that they can think of to change fundamentally what we're seeing and all that. but as far as trying to do him, his speech is actually bring back. this coupling of, of, of seen saying, we're not going to stop as long as there's no solution because of, so is really, if you thought you can, if you know, kind of a know leave because i have side and now deal with lebanon. think this would be fine, it's not going to happen. these 2 are connected, so they're connected to it. so are we seeing that a whitening or, or you know, a shift shifting of gravity as we heard yesterday from israel for the military. i mean, what is this? again, we talk about signaling. and for israel, it's important to try and show that it can keep all those balls up, into your,

the same times of we're talking about. it's the sweet active ones that would be causing the south lebanon. know has bind to north and, you know, of course the westbank was, we'd be seeing in the last week becoming more and more of a talk cycle and inviolate. so is really wants to show we're strong. we can do it. we also have unconventional me in the means and a lot of technology and creativity to deal with all of that. don't test us. and they hope that this signal late would be, you know, enough to deter any further, you know, actions for i'm either what they call the excess of evil coming for to yvonne orchestrated to yvonne. and because by law or also how much is it to be seen? you know, this is, this is a, this is a very, not so gentle but very clear game of pushing back and forth try to reestablish, you know, the, the rules of this very fall a tile scene big. where does all of this leave hopes for bringing the rest of the hostages in gaza home safely? and also what about, you know, the diplomatic efforts,

particularly on the part of the united states for a ceasefire in gosh, well that's, that's the, you know, question we've been definitely know, been bustled with it for the last couple of weeks to this is the going back to the speech dana straw basically saying the only way out is a solution for gaza and the only way out from gauze and a solution for cause a has to include also bringing back of the hostages. however, when it comes to seeing either one of, besides israel from us making any concessions into a breakthrough, this been very little optimism from both sides so that this could actually happen. so for now, it seems like we're all stuck in this completely tragic. yeah, it's like the glass is half empty. still, tony is always good to get your analysis. thank event. well i'm joined now by noah . hello, tony. he's the former kentoria defense intelligence director, is now electra and international relations. and he joins meeting tonight from the hop. israel tanya, it's good to have you with this. i'd like to maybe start by just asking you what's

the view where you are in control are about these presumed israeli attacks against hesper or bad. thank you for having the um, wireless. it's extremely unfortunate. the nature of the attack, as you know, being indiscriminate as also is very wiring. i think the bigger picture, however, unfortunately, is it seems that it's worth taking one step forward and more than 2 steps backward . at this stage when it comes to the widening and escalation of violence in that region. and unfortunately this is just the now the chopped up and the sad nozzle them of the least not finding its way to peace. but unfortunately a model more toward. what does this escalation on these really lebanese border mean for the attempts to negotiate a ceasefire deal in gauze? well, unfortunately, it's just, you know,

the easy way that easy answers. it doesn't help. the very complicated question answer would be attach very deeply. because in some problems, the scope of now finding peace, the question of peace was in, you know, almost now coming up to where here was the question of resolving the issue with gaza for turning the hostages ending the violence and finding a way for. but now the issue is now, how do we prevent brought during a broadening one and then at least the issue with this and the delphi caught off on this. this brings egypt. rightfully so. i am concerned about the forces they have. uh, because it goes, you know, very, very much against a, a piece of corporate top of stock in the seventy's. that's a lot to piece between egypt and ministry. i'm now with has butler. it seems like we're walking back uh, walking off of the backwoods in history and, and running toward sir conflict. i'd like for you to take

a listen to why the us secretary of state anthony blinking said after the attacks and 11 on about the process of negotiating a ceasefire in gauze taken list. one of the hallmarks has been that it's a, it's a complicated process. and even the communications involved are complicated for obvious reasons. so things take time and time. and again, we seen that in the intervening time, you might have an event, an incident, something that makes the process more difficult that threatens this to slow it stop it. you realize it, you can hear the frustration in and they blink his voice and yes they are. do you think the frustration is shared in guitar, which is playing a key, immediate role? i think i think it's very clear to me share,

and that's all we've learned from the spokesperson of the minister farm, the sheriffs just yesterday, echoing the same sentiment while being still hopeful in a cup of black. we're going to continue on, tim. that is a resolution, but there's no denying that wins every option to come. comes a challenge of dealing with that obstacles before dealing with the issue at hand and whitening the scope of negotiations just loses focused from the issue that we need to be resolving. so i think many in this part of the world shared the frustration of video. so you mentioned these obstacles that keep popping up. do you believe that these really government is being sincere and it's negotiations as well as we look at some sort of things that are then all elements to that's instead of i, i stay away from a broad statement saying if there's some seen or not. but if we look at those

elements, then it's very hard to see sincerity in those items. because on one hand, i'm sure they want to return their hostages and, and show for peace. actually some elements in the governments to but clearly a lot of their actions that speak louder than words do show that that's and 70 and that's inside of the, if it exists, that it is highly challenged by actions that all come to the thing wrapped um about are going against not only the interest of the region, but the interest of these really populations themselves because many of us are up to the, i don't think they look forward to another for one. i will not only bring most of his ram into account the region of the world. unfortunately, the lebanese ambassador to london today said that the middle east is being held hostage by the fate of israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. it's quite a statement. is that

a view which has any currency in guitar as well? i think hearing cuts are we looked at the broad pictures and i can't speak obviously from the government. i'm not in the government, but from my observations mean up to a prospect your finding solutions, not problems. now the onus is always on those negotiating pos to the sheets, not on the media in terms like united states on comes off to, you know, we can system that facilitates and help. i'll be honest, is on these various i'm on from us to find a resolution. moving this conflict beyond the, the scope of the negotiations does make it really difficult and almost impossible at some point time. unfortunately, we're going close to the point of being impossible to resolve and, and the focus should be on results. so i think that is about as you got the chance with america, but it's not about looking at problems, but looking at solutions and focusing on the solutions has given copper, black,

long history of success almost 20 years of success. and i think that is important. now, obviously, the lebanese ambassador being closer to the, to the issue and the incident is happening 11. i can speak much better of an eye on what's going on and let them know about the scale of them. at least, i think focusing on solutions and not problems. must be paramount of that doesn't seem to be where we're going right now. you're, you're well aware, as we all are, the united states seems to be struggling to rein in is real. i'm wondering who in the region to have a model rating or mediating influence on your rand, and it's proxies as well. to be honest, right now, let's look at the facts on the ground. uh, the radians um, if you know, look at what was being proposed, even in the media about, you know, and it rang and response weeks ago, was a minute and hasn't happened. i think we should deduce from that,

that the uranium to, to a 2nd expenses proxies of, you know, i'm not trying to provoke history on file to send this conflict. now again, we're can only base that on the fax on the ground. we haven't seen a whitening, you know, or i sco, tardy approach from here on the golf thing. this conflict sandwich seen quite many evidences. now that may change in the future of this option. ok. but again, looking just to the facts on the ground that hasn't happened now, these really side, unfortunately, that has happened. we've seen the issue right now with, with southern lebanon. we have talk yesterday on the day before the sorts of preparations of abroad the war in this, in the south was nothing on those of factual immeasurable things on the, on all sides. so i think right now bringing the policies to the negotiating table, so not widening the conflict. and that's why didn't in the past is because as an

invitation even to the negotiators, absolutely, mediators our gaming with tool negotiating practices. it's much easier just by mouth when dealing with, you know, 34 or more. you know, here we are, it's. but late september we're talking about the middle, at least being on the brink of a wider work. let's go back if, if we could do the beginning of this year and you posted a tweet on tags or on, on twitter. and i'd like to pull it up for our viewers and you're going to read that you wrote 2024 will be the closest the world has ever been to a global military and security conflict since the end of world war 2. the, the possibility of a whitening conflict in the middle east, the global security fall out because of it. and the probable shifting of the center of gravity of long standing alliances all threatening the fragile global stability . already tested by the war in new crane. and in a year where the world will witness the most elections and recent human history and

a shaky economy, all of that makes 2024 a powder keg that could in a perfect storm fuel by inaction and negligence. be devastating. where do you stand now? as we approach the last quarter of this year unfortunately, um i, you know, i look back at that production and that, that i, based on, on, on my research on the shots. unfortunately, we're nowhere closer to, you know, resolving any of those issues and unfortunate to us and on track on, on why didn't conflict so as, as, as, as silent that i am and i'm not pushing by any means. unfortunately, we are moving forward in the direction and just looking at the facts as they are playing out globally and regionally with global effects. obviously, we are going to watch a situation that will now go beyond,

i believe 2024, almost investment 3. i think at this point, you know, to go beyond 2024 when it ends in 2526. we do not know, but it is widening and we don't see opposing solutions to that situation right now . that's why what about us doing in the united states is doing is a vital, more important today that any time in the past that they be supported in moving forward. unfortunately, as you've said, it's is getting worse before we let you before we run out of time. and where do you see hope? where do you see reasons for hope, as i see, reasons thought for hopes and reasonable people. and i think when it comes to this ram, for instance, because they've done that and been used, and we could choose many, but let's just use a couple of months from now. i think it comes in the population, the populace,

the population of us and the people of this very be that don't want to see why should take more action. i think the people of the world should support and about should that go beyond the prime minister? i'm the government, that is a choice that it should make. but i think the combination of the state of israel and religion should look at the future of their children and their grandchildren. because this will impact temperatures to come. that is where i see health about hope is dwindling unfortunately. but the hope is still there. no feeling funny, the former atari defense intelligence director. we appreciate your time and your insights tonight. thank you. my problem or well, they are the eyes in the sky and a key weapon in the war in ukraine last year, the russian army received nearly 840000 drones to support its operations on the ground for russian president vladimir putin. that's not enough. he wants to ramp up

production 10 fold this year, and that has the nato alliance. worried, are brussels bureau chief alexander phenomena and attended a new exercise in the netherlands where allies are trying out new ways to down. and the drum unit on petrol comes under attack by enemy drones. just one of the training scenarios being practiced here at the base and the bread opposed, the netherlands doing this exercise, nato is testing different content. drawing technologies, including state of the art sensors and generous distresses by real, i think that's being accepted within the alliance. it's a boy and technology horizon. it's relatively inexpensive. it's relatively easy to employ these systems. so they have a menace fight term as well as a very technologically wheels challenge to the alliance. in the operation center, experts for more than 50 companies presents their solutions among them is sign one

for and then from the send to k, he tells us his strategy is different from simply jamming a drone signal. we have another mode where we actually hack into the drawing itself into the flight controller, which is the computer that drives the driving around. and we can reprogram that flight controller. so the drive will go where we want and the pilot cannot do in a single bound fit. for the 1st time you creating and drawing specialist like yarrow slab took part in the exercise key. it has integrated the drone technology within the command and control systems. the arrows lab says he's here to share experience from the battlefield. i'm trying to say that's the drollest is really a fuse threats. and so i'm trying to explain how it is used there in the front line and to what to be prepared. maybe call to change scenarios in the futures as to use of drones like this one by rogue states. and non state actors becomes an increasing

threats. nato is looking for more effective and cheaper ways to detect, identify and neutralize them. and in this regard, some of the new low co solutions coming out of ukraine may provides just what the alliance has been seeking with a jennings, gps sickness and big cities, or using a digital map to trick enemy drones. ukraine looks to be adapting quickly to new challenges on the ground. the key less is for me is, is that we need to react quickly. this is not a sort of slow pace technology domain. this is rapid officials here tell us nato is at a crossroads as countries like russia run up there drone production. the alliance and its members will need to invest more in the account to a drone systems. and before we go a well in new zealand, just had a lucky escape, things to some conservation. the juvenile picked me blue will had waged itself poor

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