many changes the new frontier system. our series continues on d w. this week the center of the middle east conflict shifted suddenly and violently after almost a year of war between israel and tomas and gaza. the focus is now on living on its border with this real israel's military and living on the run back. the militant group has the trading blows this week. it began with thousands of exploding pagers and walkie talkies used by hezbollah 11 on on friday and is really your stride killed. a major hezbollah commander de escalation is nowhere in sight. i broke off in berlin. this is the day the

house. we tried to keep ourselves calm despite the menacing science and social service on the, to the heading. definitely with white coordination post may be very close to that protest. can they only feel the risk of boys growing day by day? and that it's very near, it's important to stress that we don't know what the place policies are planning to do next, but we don't want to see any party escalate. this conflict period also coming up will take you to springfield, ohio, a report on the hate hype and hysteria, triggered by donald trump, wild claims of immigrants eating people's pets. they don't know what they've done because they've trying to behave themselves to what's right. and they don't know if one day the white supremacists are going to attack, they don't know if the local is going to attack them. and especially those with children, with our viewers watching on cbs in the united states and all around the world.

welcome. when we begin to day at the end of a week that have seen the conflict in the middle east move and only one direction towards a wider and deadly your war. the world focus for the past 11 months has been on god's that where's really forces have babbled a mos retaliation for the october 7th terror attacks. during this time in the background, we could hear the sound of rocket fire attacks launched by has built into 11 on and across northern israel. israel says that it has happened every day since october, 8th, as well as, as the attacks are in solidarity with a mos. israel has not announced victory over her boss, but this week it did announce a change in the center of gravity for the military. troops have been re positioned along the board with levon on both sides launched rocket attacks thursday and friday. and they top hezbollah commander, was killed by and is really attacked nearby route on friday.

night of air strikes in southern lab and on the israel defense forces release these images they say show their war planes. taking off to heat hezbollah targets, they claim to have struck $100.00 rocket launchers and around $1000.00 rocket launcher barrels. ready to be used to immediately fire towards is riley territory hours earlier hezbollah leader hudson. those raw that issued a warning to israel. it came after dozens of people were killed and thousands injured when hundreds of pagers and walkie talkies used by hezbollah to explode as well. so you as you, he said this will be confronted with a severe reckoning and adjust retribution and expected and unexpected ways the mileage. but because this new battle involved hidden hands,

the, let me change my approach down in the old. i will not talk about a time form and what place or date, what on what on demand is real, has not confirmed or denied that it was behind the glass, but its defense minister has set the countries in a new phase of war. and the goal is to safely retain the residents of the nose back to their homes. as time goes by, has spun that will pay an increase in price for the, for the global, but death threats. and these latest is riley attacks have done little to this. her has paula which says it will continue to strike across the border into israel as the us and others call for restraint. we're joining me now is barbara, is leaving. she has reported from the middle league. she's the author of a book on the us or any and conflict, and she is a distinguished fellow at the students in center in washington dc. roberts, could they have you with us tonight? i'm going to start by asking you, what do you think is real?

has achieved with its targeting of hezbollah this week? well i think this roy. busy has achieved obviously a major tactical success in terms of disorienting has bola, uh, they just killed another senior has bullet operative, someone who was actually involved in attacks against the united states back in the 1980s. uh, there is no doubt that this has been uh, surprising and dazzling in many ways. i guess the question i have is what really to achieve over the longer term. you know, israel has a, has a habit of doing things like this, which sort of to achieve limited goals, but then in the long run they don't solve the underlying problems. and so the underlying problems remain the main one being the fact that israel has no agreement with the palestinians that is realized still fighting and gaza. and that there are

groups like has bola that support the palestinian cause. and even if it's written and it is to kill a number of people into disrupt communications in lebanon among has blah members, it's not going to solve the underlying problem, which means that there will be new attacks. there will be new uh, attacks by hezbollah and other groups. the who tease iraq, you, she and malicious others designed to convince israel that it has to come to some sort of accommodation with the palestinians. may i ask you about what we're seeing or what maybe what we're not seeing from has below we, we've heard so much about the threat that the group poses to is real. what do you think is holding has bullet back from a substantial response to these latest attacks from israel? i mean, they've vowed to seek revenge punishment, but so far we haven't seen anything on a massive scale. well i think his bowlers,

frankly, stunned by the fact that they are pagers walkie talkies and other electronic devices blew up and are certainly not reliable. so they have to find other means of communicating that don't expose senior leaders to a targeted assassination. as we just saw and a root also, you know, has bullet made a calculation back on october 8th of last year that it could intervene in support from us that it could attack is real. and it could essentially to show its solidarity with the palestinians without a provoking a massive is really response. and i think they are now wayne, elation because my understanding is that is rarely operations and gaza are finally beginning to wind. down. they destroyed the entire enclave killed over 40000 people and certainly severely wounded. how mos in gaza. and now israel has said,

even the cabinet approved the measure, saying they were going to turn their focus to the north. mm hm. so hezbollah has to be rather care here about what it does. and i've seen some reports that there may be a renewed effort to finally get an agreement on a withdrawal of his bowler, a certain number of kilometers from the border so that the people displaced on both sides of the border can return. but obviously the idea of how the, how shots can his blood really be. i mean they've been launching projectiles. rockets across the border into northern israel. israel says every day since the october 7th tear attacked by a most certainly they have. they have to expect that at some point there's going to be retaliation. so there has been retaliation. israel has been regularly bombing

south let been on it's been bombing, they route killing. others senior has full of figures and others in the root. it's been bombing the back of valley. israel has been bombing deeper into 11 on, then has bullet, has been bombing into israel, at least up till now. up. so, you know, this latest scanned it, obviously is, is new and quite attention grabbing. and it has had a significant effect, i think, on his bows calculations, as i said, the ideal outcome would be to finally get some sort of diplomatic solution in the north and in this house. mm hm. and, you know, put what a pen in this after almost a year of excruciating violence. do you see and really enroll in, in all of this, you know, there, there was the expectation that we would see a massive response from the ron after the him off leader who knew was killed in tehran. so far we haven't seen that. do you think hezbollah is waiting for

a cue or it's orders from t ron or? i don't think it's waiting for orders. i think they consult very closely their partners. his ball is not really a proxy anymore of iran it's, it's a quite a powerful organization in its own right. i think the iranians, again, wanted to show solidarity with the palestinians without getting too deeply involved . and at various points in time. for example, when the israelis assassinated 70 ronnie and military officers in damascus, iran felt obliged to respond and it sent a garage, dismissals, and drones against israel in april, which were all largely intercepted with tremendous help from the united states. the honey of killing was an extreme embarrassment. uh but uh they are biding their time . a lot of these groups has a sense where they, even if there are sure set backs time is on their side, that is real,

is losing. in the court of public opinion that it's becoming more isolated. the government is not popular, even in israel has not been able to deliver hostages, for example. and so sometimes it's more prudent for these groups, frankly, to allow israel to continue to become more isolated import nationally. rather than take the headlines away, let me ask you about before you run out of time, do you, do you think that of all sides maybe are going to wait and see who when's the presidential election? because their expectations that the approach by the us would be very different. it's come energy compared donald trump to come with the harris i think that's part of it. certainly the is really, is, are taking advantage of our election season to continue to go after targets in a very aggressive way, including on the west bank is carmella wins that may cause some rethinking on the part of the israel east is trump twins. i imagine they're going to continue to be

extremely aggressive leading that trump nothing to stop them. it's barbara is even with these demps in santa barbara, we appreciate you taking the time of this friday to talk with we appreciate your analysis. thank you. sure, thanks. they're eating the dogs, they're eating the care. that is a quote, part of the baseless claim made by donald trump. during last month, the us presidential debate truck claimed immigrants in springfield, ohio, we're eating people's pets and the words taken on a life of their own on social media, and they've also triggered bomb threats, some aimed at springfield haitian immigrant community. the w special corresponded abraham reports of the here at roseville creole, friday's airplane teams on offer. they're serving a taste what's to eat,

the food. that's the 1st introduction to our community. the love we put in the food, the restaurant which opened a little over a year ago is a sign of spring fields growing haitian population. we came here to escape the violence and energy in the home country. most of them are legally authorized to live and work in the us under the program expanded by the binding industries. like many blue color towns in the midwest, springfield's population had been declining for years. marjorie kovalevsky says patients came here because of jobs and cheap housing were plentiful. she and her daughter run a small translation and advice center for new comers in the back room. as of this patient grocery store, they have too many has given life to the community because they are active participant in the economy. but then the numbers rose quickly. officials estimate there are no anywhere between 12 and 15000 haitians in springfield,

they saved the city's infrastructure, and public services are overwhelmed. in august of 2023, a car driven by the haitian migrant who's a school bus 2 and 11 year old boy and prompting even more concern from residence on about the growing presence of haitian white girls. these being poached, william monahan is like former journalist and then somebody helps from a facebook group for spring fielders. share their thoughts about everything from safety, the economy to rumors of pets disappearing, losing homes, losing jobs. so just costs going up so high that you can afford things usually at a ford, mostly above all, that is talking about how our city government ignores that concerns and marks us and insinuates that our concerns are rooted in some sort of misplaced, originally antipathy towards patients. all your ac liam says she's ambivalent about

trumps claims that patient migrants are stealing and eating pets probably. but at least appreciate that they have drawn national spotlight to an issue he feels has long been ignored, but for the haitian community. trump's comments have caused nothing but fear. margie kovalevsky has been getting panic calls for the past 2 weeks. they don't know what they've done because they've trying to behave themselves to what's right . and they don't know if one day the white supremacist are going to attacked. and i don't know if the local is going to attack them and especially those with children . and it's not just the haitian community that's been effected since donald trump's come in. there been dozens of bomb threats here in springfield forcing since schools to evacuate their students. the city has also cancel the annual culture. at rosco creole, the debacle has had an unexpected twist of people walking to the restaurant to show their support. this couple of from arkansas came here to send

a message were supporting this community today. but next week, it could be a different community targeted just for political gain, both city and local haitian community leaders are calling for com. they want springfield out of the spotlight, and on a path to healing dw is on abraham. she filed that report. she has more now and what springfield city officials as well as locals, were willing to tell her, but not on camera. we were not able to interview any city or state officials for that piece. we certainly tried, but they got back to us saying that because of the volume of attention they would be unable to accommodate our request for an interview. they've just been bombarded by it's a press and not just press. i mean, this has really, as we try to show thrust a small midwestern town into the national and to a very large extent, international spotlight and bringing all sort of security concerns to the for. and

so city officials have been very, very busy just the amount of bomb threats that they've had to deal with over the past 2 weeks. can overwhelm at any well functioning at city hall in any city, you know, of the size in the united states. but in terms of the um, the response of the officials, officials, city officials, state officials, the governor has repeatedly said that the claims made by the former president are based on baseless and that there is no evidence for them seeing that they hurt their community and that they have indeed brought unwanted attention, but my, from my reporting speaking to a, some locals of springfield, they really don't care what their officials say. and they certainly some of them still certainly believed despite the statements. and despite there being no evidence of, of pets being kidnapped and eaten by migrant,

that migrants are doing so. so it's a, it's often time walking through this town. there are different realities living in close proximity side by side. and it's, it's very, it's a sort of a microcosm in the, of the polarization that can be seen in so many parts of american society ahead of the selection. 4 years ago, the editors and the magazine scientific american endorse to joe biden, for you as president. it was the 1st endorsement ever in scientific americans, history going back almost a 180 years. this year. donald trump is once again running for president, and the magazine is again endorsing his opponent. the magazine says it's going for come over here, is because it for proven track record of many issues including health care, the difference to mitigate climate change. trump, on the other hand, is seen by the editors as a dangerous threat, a person who rejects scientific evidence and be 1st quote,

non sensical conspiracy fantasies. here's their take on the issue of technology. the chips and science act invigorates the chip making, industry and semiconductor research. while growing the workforce, a new trump administration would and do all of this work in quickly under the d. v . as in divisive project, 2025 framework technology safeguards on artificial intelligence would be over time . joining me now is the editor in chief of scientific american, laura hel, moves she enjoys me from washington dc. laurie, it's good to have you back on the show again, 4 years ago, almost 4 years ago. exactly. you said that you were counting on president biden to reconnect the us to science as he delivered to this. thank you for having me. and thanks for asking. he has not as much of courses as we would like there's, there's always more to be done. but i think the,

the 1st sign that he was committed to science was when he rejoined the parents climate agreements. and that was one of the 1st things he did as president. and if you recall, one of the 1st things uh president trump did in 2016 or when he came into office in 2017 was pull the united states out of the parish climate agreement. so from the very beginning, they were sending signals of your truck. it has called climate change of hoax. the fight in ministration with vice president harris has been very supportive assignment action. and we think that's just that, you know, obviously that's an emergency facing all of us in the world that requires international collaboration. and we think that the fight in harrison ministration has done a great job so far without it. i was gonna ask you there between 24 year again, endorsing and candidates. this one being somebody here is what's different this time around other than the democratic candidates may the past, i guess. so i think we've, we've got some word stream on both sides. i think,

you know, as in your last segments, trumps has become even worse, are kind of unhinged from reality. he's, he has his reading these conspiracy theories about people eating pets and you, knowingly causing disruptive violence to, to immigrant communities. if he continues to call fire change a hoax i, there, he's done all kinds of things to show that he's not accessing a reality. and of course, the biggest one is still the 9, but he lost the election in 2020. and then on the other side, you know, i think the vitamin in his dividing harris administration has done more to mitigate climate change. any presidential administration in the past. and harris is even more committed. her plans go beyond what fine has done so far. um to uh, to really do even more to improve i've seen energy to advance electric vehicles more more regulations, more protections for the environments and she's just super supportive of science

and health care. and those are, you know, we, we just think that didn't even clear a choice this time, but it was last time i'd like to ask you about some numbers that, that came out. few research reports that the majority of americans think it is important for the us to maintain its global leading scientific achievements. but when it comes to trusting scientists to do the right thing for society, that number has fall and 14 percent in the past 4 years. and where did you place the blame for that? so yeah, in that number it's interesting that numbers of course, for overall. but what we're really seeing is a whitening difference between what conservatives think about science and what liberals do. or, you know, democrats and republicans and the respect for and trust and sciences is increased study among democrats. and it just keeps dropping among republicans. and, you know, there's, there's definitely a debate within code besides communication, community about it, you know, are we for the size of science?

are we, is it sciences fault? and from my perspective, it's not at all. i think it's been politicized from the other side. we certainly saw during this can direct that conservatives were very against mass doing a good staff scenes against any kind of public health protections. and in the united states, especially there's been a 100 years of kind of anti science rhetoric from conservatives. so starting with a, we had a famous trial called the scopes monkey trial that basically charged a science teacher was breaking the law for teaching about evolution. and from that on it's been a really um, bifurcated the system where the conservatives have been rejecting of tobacco studies, climate science evolution you know, basically any, any kind of scientific discovery is, has been very slow to size. well, what do you say to your critics? i mean, you've been criticized for politicizing the scientific community with,

with the endorsement. and i also found that there is this professor of ecology and evolution at the university of chicago. i think his name is jerry coined jerry cohn and he says that you're under your leadership, scientific american has neglected science in favor of pushing a progressive id. ology, does he have a point there? i mean, is there, as you say, really a democratic version of science and the republican version of science or no, i think, yeah, yeah, jerry's either jerry has a lot of time on his hands. he spends a lot of time criticizing us. we have not neglected science, we cover, you know, all the non political science just as much as we ever did. we've got a great story coming out on lucy. the officer looked at the guess the possible. we've got a lot of coverage of dark energy, dark matter, chemistry, biology. all the science that really doesn't, you know, makes the news except when there's some great discovery in terms of what we cover

that has to do with politics. we think it's our responsibility to share what we know about the science of abortion, access of transgender health care of climate science, and how important it is to expand access to the health care and how it can be live, save, and as you experienced health access. so all of these are, are things that are study by science that are part of science. and so we feel like is part of our mission to help people understand? you know, it's not just a policy debate, there are 2 equal sides. so for a lot of questions, there's an abundance body of evidence that supports one position or the other, and he make it clear what that evidence is. lord help us with the scientific american war. we appreciate your time on this friday and let's see who wins the election. and let's see. let's come back in 4 years and see what we're talking about. then. thank you. thanks a lot. hi. or whether they continues on line, you find this one x, also known as twitter, and on youtube, the dw news,

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