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for his country he received the nobel peace to this business, china, september 27th. on the the conflagration that is the middle east conflict for almost a year. garza has been consumed by the in front of a war between israel and come off. but the other flash points never stopped smouldering, especially between israel and the iran back militant group, hezbollah 11 on. it has been one week since exploding pagers and 11 non single, a new blazing the battle between israel and has will up. both sides are now trading rocket attacks, almost non stop the fiercest, seen in decades, fanning more flames as both sides say, they won't pull back or back down. i'm break off in berlin. this is the day
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the, the idea of fully engage in extensive precise strikes against tara targets, which have been imbedded widely throughout the lab. and we are extremely concerned to deeply worried about the escalation and the non israel will do what ever it takes from diplomacy. all 3 minutes remains to secure our move in bold. what we've seen over the last week has been dramatic, has been dramatic. the consequences on civilians has been huge. we do not wait for threats. we anticipate it anywhere anytime also coming up ukrainian president zalinski is in the united states this week pushing his plan for victory to bring rushes more against his country to an end. a
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visa will be the answer to the question. when was this will end is really when the determination of our partners keeps pace with what we can do to protect ourselves with you to defend our independence. to win. ukraine must win this war. which of our he was watching on cbs in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with no either sign willing to pull back. these really military and the militant group has the law in lebanon and say, a lit up in the rocket attacks against each other is out of the question. it has been just a week since hundreds and hundreds of pagers used by hezbollah exploded, killing at least 30 injuring thousands. from there it has been a daily, almost hourly escalation in cross border rocket attacks between hezbollah and is really one of the strikes killed. a major has bullock commander. the idea of says its focus has shifted from gauze in the south to the border with lab and on in the
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north. hezbollah says it's air strikes into israel will only stop once the war in garza has stopped. we have more now and this report and is really what plane takes off a striking targets and 11 on as its campaign against has below widens. israel says around $1300.00 targets were hit. it accuses the militants of hiding long range rockets in civilian homes and aims to destroy their capabilities. israel is warning residents in lebanon, south and east to leave areas where they say the weapons are stored. that human rights watch says civilians can be expected to know the location. roads are jammed as people flee 1st day for ground. there were strikes in the south, so we came here and we don't know what's left behind. i swear we don't know what's
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happening. god willing, we will be back. tell netanyahu we will return. israel's prime minister issued this message to the people of lebanon. israel's war is not with you. is with his brother. for too long, because bell has been using you as human shields in place rockets in your living rooms and missiles in your garage. those rockets and missiles are writing directly at our cities directly at our citizens to defend our people against as well as strikes. we must take out those weapons as zillow says that launch dozens of rockets towards military bases in northern israel, including the port city of haifa, residents, there are divided over israel's air strikes. we need to end the swell north of spelt and other one of my most. i'm very happy that we're finally retaliated because of the government is showing us the care mine and aren't defending us under
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attack. and we're finally fighting back. maybe it will help to lead us to the end of this k i saw from the sign on israel says it will stop only when it's residents can return to northern border areas which were evacuated. it has the allies of her mouth say they won't stop cross border attacks until there's a ceasefire in gazda. both have been designated as care organizations by several nations. fears of an all out conflict are growing as 11 on march. the deadly is day since the 2 sides went to war in 2006 i'm joined now by used to come out and he's the director of the middle east and north africa program at the international crisis group. mr. hickman, it's good to have you with this. is there any hope of preventing a wider conflict in the middle east? at this stage?
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we should always hope, and it's never too late until it is too late. so we have still a chance to that to go over see do its work. i think united states in particular has the ability perhaps the will to impress on israel at least to desist from further escalation. so far has been a, has not responded in kind or at the same level and perhaps it's no longer able to do so. but what we're seeing is, we know we're talking about 500 debt already and level and over 1600 wounded from the latest attacks. and as you know, the risk that the coffee table in gulf the level and that, and potentially iran united states got drawn in certainly is it exists. and we need
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to do everything to prevent that your group as cold on the united states to push yet again for a ceasefire and gossip does an end to the escalation along the lebanese border. does it depend on a gaza ceasefire? so if you listen to his, but then the answer is yes. if you listen to israel and maybe the burden of industry should yes or is know the burden administration. certainly, israel has been trying to separate what's going on and is relevant on the border from a gas a ceasefire. but his bow and kindred groups, large with the wrong. it's made clear from the beginning meeting last october, 2023 that they will hold their escalation only in case there is a cease fire and gossip of course, directing in alliance with, with homeless now as well as trying to, to break that particular link. uh,
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by uh, you know, destroying or damage to the damage in his brothers. it capability whether it will succeed is uh for now anyones. uh, you know, any of those guess and, um, but, but for sure that it may succeed in that and in which case uh, that will be a need for these really perspective for regardless as far lets i would argue that until now it goes as far as your sure way to bring down the attention to the region . you know, we're just a few weeks away from the us presidential election. there's, as we said, there's no ceasefire and gaza and his belief is that it will not back down is real, is finding both hamas and hezbollah with no end in sight. me this, this looks like a disaster. how much of this disaster has been made by the united states as
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well, you know, to united states is still going to be like it, you know, it's a pretty popular and power in the middle east if not the world. and it certainly has a huge influence over israel, both time and again, linked to the american elections. the budget ministration has failed to use its leverage with israel in order to restrain it into pushed working diplomatic solution. it has favor diplomatic solution. it has sent a slip of the message to reach and repeatedly about prime interest in data. yeah, we in particular as cold as ministrations bluff over and again and the administration is not good, it's foot down, whereas it could. and so, yes, the united states is in any way responsible for the escalation, and it can still put an end to this if it's really lost. and why do you think the united states is not exercising?
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you know, the leverage the influence that it could well because of the elections and it certainly define it ministration doesn't want to start accused it more sort of congress and you know, high levels of the, of the american going. and it leads of, of having a bad, it is real, it's a line, it's understandable. the united states has to stand by israel. what does that mean? that it shoots green light? everything is rotors or got to put certain restraints on its most egregious behavior. that is a violation of international humanitarian law. and of course it can do that, but it is, you know, the, the, the vice president hers a donald trump. they are too close in, in the, the key states to. but it doesn't want to take the risk as you'll still to mind of
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the crisis group. miss natalie, we appreciate your time tonight and your analysis. thank you. thank you very much. ukraine's president of the zalinski is in the united states to present what he calls a victory plan to president joe biden. and presidential hopefuls come over harris and donald trump and pennsylvania zalinski toward an ammunition factory that produces artillery. shell see thing the workers there and he told them that ukraine needs more of what they make. zalinski and the state governor also put their signature on some of the shelves. the ukranian leaders a plan, includes some big demands of its western allies. fighting continues to rage and eastern ukraine, russia making slow games, a tremendous human cost. but over time, expanding the territory. it controls russian forces had been pushing towards the key strategic city of calls for months. taking for cross got
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a few other nearby towns could open up the eastern front with potentially disastrous consequences for ukraine. for its part ukraine strategy continues to involve heading inside russian territory with drones. most recently blowing up and now munitions storage site. the reportedly contained north korean made munitions ukrainian president follow to me is a landscape says his detailed victory plan could help turn the tide show. he says it gives ukraine the quote, the strongest possible position to bring peace close certain moments she can before he left for the us. he sent this message has listed, you know, so that is the most is a next week. could be crucial in many ways in still english and tyrone that i see this regression and to restore normal security. and that in mind, you know, best buy from simple this to happen at issue determination of our partners. life must be matched by the courage of ukrainian sage. a visa will be the answer to the
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question. when was this will end is really when the determination of our partners keeps pace with what we can do to protect ourselves. we pay to defend our independence to winners. ukraine must win this war, great kind of weight and will be put together with a whole load more. but there's not much we know yet, but so lensky has said. his victory plan contains a military component, including ukraine's incursion. into russia and using long range weapons on russian territory, a political component that would determine ukraine's place in the world security order and diplomatic and economic components as well. the military aspect is what we know the most about as you crane seeks to strengthen itself to when on the battlefield you're jack or ukrainian incursion into rushes. kursk region which started on august 6th is part of the plan, even if it is so far failed to divert huge numbers of russian troops from the front
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lines. it gives you create a bargaining chip. crane has also captured hundreds of russian prisoners, and course the victory plan also includes, keeps request to use long range weapons like attack comes missiles to hit targets deep inside russia. savanski has publicly called on president biden multiple times to get that permission saying it could change the course of the war. but until now, biden has said no u. s. media reports that officials have seen elements of the victory plan and are confident that it can work. but joe biden will be the 1st person to see the entire plan. savanski said that if the us doesn't sign off, war may continue for years. and then my, you know, there is no alternative to peace, no freezing available, or any other manipulations use that would simply shift traverse integration to another stage. we need reliable and the lasting secuity for ukrainians, and by extension for all of europe. what's that?
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what we're working towards the tool ultimately ukraine says the victory plan is a bridge to understanding what the country's future will be after the war part. let's bring in now. bradley bowman, with the foundation for defense of democracies practice, the us veteran, and we've spoken many times about the nexus of us and european military policies. these are the ukraine and rush it, but it's good to see you again. first, let me ask you, we're talking about a victory plan here. um, what does victory mean? this is a fundamental question and thanks up to john, you know, vicky for ukraine and i think would mean evicting russian forces and re establishing to use sovereignty in charge. royal integrity within its internationally recognized borders, including cry me i sound like someone at the us, but i think that would basically be it. of course that's easier said than done and i see no easy our quick pass to get from where we are now to such an outcome. but
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that's what the victory would look like. and some people in washington and maybe in europe say, well, that sounds harder, impossible. so therefore we should maybe stop trying. but the problem is that that path is quite clear in the us and europe deprive you create of the means of self defense. i think there's a rather clear path to a russian victory. so just because something is long and difficult and not clear, it doesn't mean you'd stop trying. and i think that's something that's a decision makers need to keep in mind that the big idea here, at least in terms of the lensky, is training crease, the costs for program to shift as cost benefit analysis. then he was under, joe biden, has provided ukraine with the backing that it's needed to, to provide. but some would say, this increment a list where the weapons have come, has never given you create the tools that it needs to. when do you see that way as well? you know, i see truth on both sides. i see some credit here for the buying restrictions and
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blame the credit is you know, uh, the binding restriction warren europe before the february 24, 2022. and based on that, this was coming. when the trans failed and envisioned engaging came, they assembled an extraordinary international coalition to help you crank and implemented what i would call the most impressive us security assistance campaign. and in reason american history. but i would also agree with much of your promise that when big decisions came well, you know, whether you provide tanks, whether you provide long range munitions, whether you support the provision of that's sixteen's. we've seen what i have been calling this know maybe yes, dynamic. the 1st answer is no. then it's maybe and then it's finally yes. and that plays out over weeks or months and what's happening during those weeks or months. ukrainians are dying, defending their homes, and the russians are advancing. so these delayed decisions are non decisions, have cost to ukraine. it showed back in 2023 with its fail defensive, that it wasn't able to break through russian lines where the defenses are strong.
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is that a realistic expectation of ukraine's capabilities, even if they're given all the weapons that they want? as you know, there's nothing harder in warfare generally speaking, then frontal assault on 6 positions when those forces are dug in and they have artillery support and, and this modern warfare where basically if you're seen and you will be seeing, you can be killed. so most of the instances where we've seen significant laudable ukrainian advances are when it is a gives forces that have not been dug in it, whether be in the early a months or what we've seen recently from the incursion into russia. so i think any plan that relies on large scale penetration exploitation of 6 russian lines. i would want to see the details behind that because i don't think we see a lot of evidence that's worth coming any time soon. what about ukraine saying that it wants permission to use us long range, missiles deep inside russia?
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what's the utility of that in your pin? you know, yeah. and the utility of long range weapons uh, is it enables ukrainians to, to target and all the bose command control nodes. transportation hugs airfield runways. and they're often so straight capabilities. and by doing that, you force the russians to take a number of steps that helps keys, they pull those forces back. and so when they're launching a strikes from further back, it gives you craniums more time to respond and defend themselves, and also forces the russians to disperse their forces. whether be there a grammar, depots or logistics notes, or the actual combat forces. and that makes command and control more difficult and crates, time consuming in efficiency. so there's all kinds of reasons why from ukrainian perspective. why do you want these increase in permission of washington to use american weapons deep inside russia as opposed to what we've seen just across the border? donald trump says that c will in the war on day one of his presidency. if he is re
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elected the piece plan, pushed by j, the vance basically freezes the conflict, leaving russia with every that you do do using a solution for the future, which will not look a lot like that. as i hear what for president trump is saying i've seen what uh, judy vance, a said and um, that sounds like a victory for me. anything that locks in some version of the status quote is an absolute victory for the kremlin because they will seize territory with military force. and that would be the united states accepting it. that would be a disaster for international law, for the rule of law, and would send a horrible message to the middle east in the pacific. that if you just wait the americans out sooner or later than they'll give them and you can get, accomplish your political objectives. with military force, i think that would be an unambiguous disaster for europe and united states and
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international security. let me ask before we run out of time the, the future, the fate of this war. how much of it depends on the outcome of election day in november in the united states? you know, there's a term in american politics. i used to teach american politics at west point. among other things, it's been elections matter. you hear that in a wash and a lot. i think us policy toward ukraine in europe and russia are, there is very true. there's 2, they're very different. the policies on offer here. when you look in some regions, you think 81 and ministration might be a little stronger. you look in your, i think i hear some ministration has a fundamentally different policy towards russia, ukraine, and nato, in shopping ministration does i think it passes pro log that's indisputable. all right, bradley bowman with the foundation for the defense of democracies. brad, as always, we appreciate your time and your analysis. thank you. thank you. to thousands of venezuelans have gone into hiding as the socialist government cranks them on
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descent. in the wake of a disputed election president nicholas madeira was declared the winner on july, his vote. but his victory claim has been rejected by the united states, the european union. and several, latin american countries, many other venezuelans have simply left the country, dw news, spoke to some of them you were in exile in spring. this is fair to construct a lawyer for the event as well, and the position he was arrested by on identified men at the end of august. since then, his son santiago, delta, who lives in spain hasn't heard from him. and the 51 are raising the witnesses to dusty cropped him by the mag contracts. come across the pavement to one of the vehicles, the word n a. when i put him in the car and drove away on. no, maybe i don't know he's been charged for terrorism, treason, incitement to hate, treat them about the conspiracy. 5 charges which is literally everything. my dad is
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not a single guard. okay. and the that are meant the door look at me bundle. and despite the uncertainty and fear, santiago just stays optimistic, he says his father will be released sooner or later. beth constructs as one of more than 2000 to opponents of the government. we have been arrested since july selection political persecution administrator has intensified since the government controlled electro counsel declared nicholas my doodle, the widow. in the meantime, the you and other countries have recognized edmondo gonzales as the democratically elected president. together with the opposition leader, money equity, not much of the contests. the results he's now in spain. waste been given political asylum. spain is home to hundreds of thousands of venezuelans who have left because of the political and economic crisis that i moved to dental and left to. he runs a boat in madrid and sees that strong power loves between the fate of a window. gonzales and other venezuelans and receive my what can,
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which was they to use a victim just like the a more than a to 1000000 venezuelans who have had to leave for one reason or another. you know, for the peace and the victim, he has not been able to remain in this country safely to be able to take office. because we have been marked out by the regime for k at. and we'll say that would allow for the mean, many people hope edmondo gonzales will be sworn and entering among them one by little garcia and member of the in a circle over then as an opposition is sure president, my buddhist time's up. anything else but provoke of revolution, he says, can't do that. but if you don't need to assume that in the face of international and national pressure, there will be no other option then to begin a peaceful transition in the next few hours. the next few days, which will end with the swearing hand of gonzales overall. do you know why there's no way for them to evade what is happening in venezuela with the minnesota at in the so every main cautious venezuela has strong international allies even on saw
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this was this one in the price isn't venezuela would be fall from over the age where he went to my the, my daughter regina is very attached to parks. you see on the 10th of, of the let in the american countries to negotiate through brazil as president, july or columbia federal debt. that could be the beginning of a solution. that's very happy to 40 and said, but at this moment they are very far from being translated into anything concrete since and if at mando gonzales becomes president, the situation would be so complicated that getting out of the hole in which men as well are currently finds itself will require that the tenant effort force of the time equal. but of that effort means the release of the political prisoners and a change of direction for the country. for most venezuelans, it would be a true victory. so they continues online. you'll find this on the x, also known as twitter and youtube videos. you can follow me on social media and
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w call, the world unpack. pulse of your info is in all the input u, v. w story. now on to the this is dw news, and these are our top stories. lebanon's health industry says more than 350 people have been killed and hundreds more wounded in his really attacks. thousands of left their homes in southern lebanon, with heavy traffic on roads leading to the capital b route further north. israel's military said that it carried out extensive strikes against hezbollah, telling residents to evacuate areas close to buildings used by the middle degree. ukrainian president of the zalinski is in the us to present a so called the victory plan to president joe biden,
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vice president cumberland harris and republican.

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