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the and the dresser, the wall to bring more nations on the control. any part of the well or alternative attempts to see these are infect, efforts to achieve allow, instead of an end to the war. as a global initiative, the piece formula as already existed for 2 years. and maybe somebody was and nobel prize for the political biography for frozen throws instead of reality is about the only prices put in. we'll give you in return on more suffering and disasters. we must restore nuclear safety and their g must still being used as a weapon. we must ensure food security. we need to bring it home, all our cap shipped soldiers and civil lands, possibly deported to our shop. we must uphold the un charter and guarantee our
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right ukraine's right to their door, no integrity and silver and t. just as we do for any other nation, we need to withdrawal the russian occupies, which will bring an end to the hostilities in ukraine. and we must hold those responsible for war crimes accountable. we need to prevent echo side and stop that destruction of nature caused by the war. and we must not allow a 2nd or sword phase of these russian invasion. and we need to make it clear, the war is, or this is the piece formula. what part of these could be unacceptable to anyone who polls the un charter? if someone in the world 6 alternatives, do any of these boys or tries to ignore any of them,
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it's likely means they themselves want to do it bar. so what would you know is doing the point they ignore, reveals that desire them hiding. and when the chinese brazilian do, or tries to grow into quiet or voices with someone and you are with someone in africa, seeing something alternative to a full and just these, the question arises. what is the true interest? everyone must understand. you will not boost your power at ukraine's expense. and the world has already been through colonial wars. and conspiracy is of great powers. and the expanse of those who are small in every country, including china, brazil, european nations, african nations middle is all understand why this must remain in the past.
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and your greenhouse will never accept will never accept why anyone in the world believes that such a brutal colonial boss which you, it's no want to day can be imposed on your brain. now instead of a normal peaceful life, as i wants these for my people, real peace and justice. and i am asking for your support from all nations of the world. we do not divide the world. i ask the same of you, do not divide the world be united nations, and that will bring us this. thank you. so i will agree on behalf of the assembly that was pretty impressive. and for the reason lensky addressing the u. n. general assembly in new york,
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the, the assembly will here and addressed by his excellent and let's on back all of that with the w. c for international editor, which said, well, ko, it's with us. richard. we heard that speech together just now quite a lot of an emotional, a lot of focus on the nuclear power plants of you creating a lot of focus on the beast formula of 2 years ago. i want to ask you what stood out to you or yeah, well, in the mission, i think we can see this is the latest and alone line of a lot of music. lensky is a efforts to keep the international community on side with ukraine. you know, the, we're approaching the down advisory of this war, and this has always been a major, a strategy of who's to, to try to rally international support and push back against narratives that he sees as damaging to ukraine's prospects here. and i think you can see him doing that on,
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on several fronts. in the course of this speech, i think essentially trying to push back on the narrative that, that the school is kind of hopeless for ukraine. the oil it's trying to do is kind of string is alone. um, and keep fighting in the hope of the, in the sort of vain hope that it can somehow achieve some victory against russia. and he's trying to push back against that narrative, which you do see coming out to russia, coming out of china and some other countries. and also, you know, finding audiences in some parts of the globe and pushing back on that to, to try to give the stronger impression that ukraine does have a vision. so pc, it does have support is for piece and it does. and we've been hearing the, the frame is talked about this in the last few days. it does have a plan for how it can achieve that kind of victory is that cooling it, which they believe would force russia to the negotiating table?
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well, so let's keep pushing back quite strongly against a plan from the chinese and the brazilians, which is seen, is much more favorable towards russia as sort of an alternative approach to, to trying to see connected to this conflict. so let's keep pushing back, is that that's something that does not uphold the principles of the un charter. um, which of course is, is the sort of gospel of the united nations, the very body that he's been speaking to, that i want a sofa back to what you said about the weekly plan. but when it comes to referencing the brazil, china, san, and actually quoting out, what do you see those nations that do not want to include you creating? are you surprised by that? do you see that of the shift and the one from of the lensky who was only conciliatory and appealing to a nation so without really name calling country that the fees are against you? create it no way. what i think is zalinski has sort of it. he adjusts as he goes to long in terms in this kind of what kind of tone he's going
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to use. i was in singapore earlier this year of this time we're la dialogue, which is the main security dialogue it in, in the asia pacific region. they have a lot of them is the last who was taking part and he had very angry words towards the chinese suggesting that they simply do not want peace in this war. and really calling them out for the degree of support that they've been given to, to the russian. so certainly not the, the 1st time that he has being critical of china. but it was quite interesting to where he mentioned that, you know, he started to question the motives of countries that may see an appeal. and this in this plan from, from china and brazil to, to try to get negotiations going this plan that does not refer to the need for russia to withdraw its troops. that does not refer to protecting ukraine's territorial integrity. and these are cause being that the underlying principles of the un charter and, and the reasons or some of the reasons why this invasion is
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a legal is for loved or mr. lensky is asking, what was that? the true interest of countries that are supporting that plan. so suggesting that the countries, the, the back, this chinese brazilian plan a country. so somebody wants to kind of basically get back into rushes, good books start doing business with russia in a positive way. um so, so that was quite interesting that he did have that, that kind of job a country supporting this uh, the brazilian and chinese plan. exactly, enjoying away from that brazilian chinese plan and pulling back to a plan he propose to use the goal in indonesia when he's calling upon these formula . and with that, he recapped quickly that to be one to restore nuclear security energy food, bring back prisoners of war. and essentially withdrawal occupier is etc. so this is a plan from 2 years ago. you just mentioned a plan from right now the week free plan. what do you think is the reason why
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dimansky is not focusing on the retreat then? but actually hawking back to a piece then from 2 years ago as well. i think use it. you have to see these 2 places. this is kind of part of the same strategy but, but now updated with this victory plan so that the piece planned image street so. so let's can put that to the g 20 in bali a couple of years ago. and this was a 10 point plan which was really trying to say, we need to have full withdrawal or for us and troops that needs to be a full restoration, a few cranes, borders and, and various other things. but of course, a very, what would be a very favorable outcome to this war for ukraine with, with reparations being paid by, by russians and more points along those lines. now, i think the, the challenge that so lensky has had now 2 years off to pushing forward that piece proposal. and also, you know, in the month since having a fast conference which has sent it around this proposal is
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a sense in many parts of the world, particularly in the global south that well, you know, it sounds nice to have a 10 point plan where you come out of this with your board is fully restored, but that they don't believe it's realistic. so, you know, is they sold kind of pie in the sky. and this is the narrative that lensky is now having to push back upon it to the a sort of sense that maybe his piece proposal is unrealistic. and that there was something that's more along the lines of a compromise out there in the world somewhere. and this is kind of a thinking or the narrative behind the brazil chinese plan. what he's now doing with this, uh, what he calls a victory blind is saying, no, we do know a way of forcing russia to come to the table on its back foot militarily, to give that kind of concessions that would move in the direction of that piece for me, look at this victory plan. we haven't had it spelled out yet, but i think the major audience for that this week is not in the united nations.
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it's actually in the white house as a landscape is going to be here in washington tomorrow, talking to joe biden also told him to come to harris. we know he also wants to talk to donald trump, the republican candidate who is very skeptical and increasingly on in his stump speeches, we're seeing increasing the critical of zalinski. so, so that is the major audience for this victory plan. and what we've been hearing from so lensky is top advisor, who we saw just in the un chamber, just that he was speaking to the council on foreign relations in new york just yesterday, an ex pat panel that saying that they want things like foss track into nato membership, we also expect them to be ramming home the message that they've been calling for, for some time that they want permission from the united states to, for a long range weapons deeper into russia to target russian results. military results as far as the inside russia, these and now questions that the americans are going to have to think about. but of course, he's bringing this into the united states and the middle of a have a presidential election,
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which makes it very difficult for joe biden. to take politically difficult decisions at this time because that could potentially come the prospects of complet harris. so is a very complicated political and diplomatic solution that is a landscape situation that the legs can find himself and, but i think that's the idea of the power plants to try to come transmit to the well . but how peace plan may sound good for us. but it is not on realistic antique supporting us so that we can try to achieve that. and could you be putting out the details of that week free plan as a much to model? and i'm sure we'd be talking to you again for more analysis and thank you so much for that today. richard. well, coded up use international use of to it's done now to the conflict between israel and his school law in the middle east. now his bullet says it has filed the ballistic messiah at the headquarters of the brand intelligence agency. most said, israel says the weapon was safely intercepted,
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bought it mocks, the militant troops deepest conformed strike into instead of it. but un says more than 90000 people have been displaced in northern 11 on, in 5 days of his ready bombardment. doomed peace was shifted by sirens, as his really defense is intercepted has. but i'll miss all over 10 of these is the 1st time since the start of the war and gone so that the group has tried to attack so deep into israel, like we used to. it was, it comes from the south or the no, it doesn't match the rock and i still rock and they just the striving, stressful and unplugged and i don't think anyone and this will, would like to live like this. and we'll take the kids and see to access israel says no one in tel aviv was homed. the is riley own forces, said they had intercepted several other projectiles fired from lebanon. well those some made it through like here in the northern city of so fed web buildings were
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damaged in 11 on it was a different story of these really minute tree launched. fresh air strikes against what it described as has the target. see, is really all mean says has the law is hiding weapons within civilian infrastructure. attacks. also hit villages like this 125 kilometers know to pay route fall from the around fact malicious. traditional strongholds, lebanese authorities say there are casualties. officials estimate around half a 1000000 and 11 on i've been displaced by the violence already thousands of ended up here and they route with many funding shelter in schools like this one. so i'm here old enough to have unpleasant memories of the last conflict between israel and 11 on in 2006 get the had a little i witnessed could to live on. we will definitely get like, but not live these day, which i've gotten that, but i, we suffered and we were displaced under the streets. and we also faced that in 2006 . but now the situation is my child did
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a lot. yeah. had did. despite the attacks back and 711 on others are determined to stay put and to continue that day to day lives like it and the city of time. so people who are flat are familiar with areas. there is nothing here. we won't leave . as you see, i'm selling vegetables and fruits and people are buying unhappy. we won't leave this island. we are the rightful owners. even have some heads of 3 to protect our children and family members. some have to stay in the town. so the enemy does not think that it's empty. but with these really made a tree, giving no indication of when it's aerial attacks might end and hezbollah showing no sign of stopping its own strikes, cold. but the escalation by the international community seem to be going on outside tunnel astronomy. such a is in fairfield,
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an area all the time about the situation that it's, it's terrible on the last 2 days, hundreds of thousands of southern lebanese and lebanese living in the southern. so there's a bigger route as well. have flipped north to give you a personal example of my building is currently occupied by many displays. but the news that we're seeking shelter. there were thousands of lebanese up until last night, looking for homes. and he really familiar to the july, august 2006 for public schools have opened for the displaced and there are n g o's, circulating the city, trying to provide some support, whether it's food, shelter, or even for that matter. hygiene kids be really familiar to july and august, 2006. and you describe the situation that bedrooms is facing because of the influx of refugees from southern 11 on how much more resources with the city and the government needs to hender what seems to be
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a drink tight as you describe it. and i think it's impossible for the state to cope with this. and the reason i'm saying that is because loved in austin institutions have largely failed pre award and the economic collapse of the last 5 years following the port blast in august 2020. and to severe crippling political paralysis with a caretaker government. not doing its job. and the presidential vacuum there is no input is for the state to do more or even able to do more at this critical juncture . but that said, the only serious measure taken, which was very last minute, was to open public schools that has housed most of the lebanese that were on the streets last night, looking for homes. but beyond that civil society in this country step soon, whenever there's a crisis, whether it's this war or early rewards, or whether it's simple taking on services, the state cannot do. excuse me,
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civil society does step in and they're doing remarkable work. today. you describe the drastic situation that the lebanese have been dealing with for the last 5 years and that the debt take us government is ill equipped. we hear from head for love to hear from israeli, but is the lebanese government going to freed anything or do anything specifically about this crisis? i appreciate this question and i'll answer it in several ways of possible. at least 1st and foremost on the diplomatic front, which is living on does not have an independent rule. and this works when i say live in on, i mean the lebanese state, as it's meant to adjust itself to crises, and best serve lebanese interest. we don't have that. there is no lebanese government actors circuits circling the globe, going to meetings. whether it's that the you want to reduce capitals trying to bring a ceasefire. that's good for that. the not. well, we have instead is
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a lebanese government that best echoes hezbollah primary concerns on the global stage. this is unlike 2006 when there was a government that was by and large opposing husband to security interest and let the non government play that role in 2006 that were ended fairly quickly. and it brought about it helped bring about a ceasefire resolution that we talk about all the time, which is un security council resolution $17.00 oh $1.00. there's nothing like that today. the lebanese government is a messenger for, has on that's on the diplomatic level. in terms of governance. nothing on the governments is failing. lebanon's government has been paralyzed for years. the lebanese government is not involved in emergency situations beyond last minute planning. and i'll make it even more reflective of the situation. my understanding is that they postponed an emergency session during an emergency. i think that best
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reflects where we are now. that's on the governance level. in terms of how people are reacting. people in level not open their doors and this is despite whether there are sympathizers to as well not. we're opponents, the husband, they're coming north. the are civilians and loving. these have once again, like they've done in the past, opened their doors to civilian seeking shelter. it's lebanese citizens at the end of the day that are carrying the burden, not just in terms of support, but paying the price as well for this ongoing war between husband or not industry. and the story shots are in visual with many times for better care analysis. my pleasure. that's done now to some of the stories making headlines. china says it has fired an intercontinental ballistic. most candidates, a calling for more independence from india. and i have them as soon as managing editor of the cas, me times newspaper given chris medias has thought of distrust of elections. i off
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to what's different about this one? what is different is that in the last 5 years, they have not enjoyed any kind of a, an incident choice. they have been deprived of their right to the right to the representative that has been an absence of political voices. it has been an absence of civil society. there has been a complete silencing and modeling of the media. and this is why that uh, you know, the people feed that the only reason that they can be now in followed is through the world. so they are speaking to the world, the kind of enthusiasm that you see at the bullying moods. the high number of the distance unprecedented. it is in uh, you know, the last to diaz and the that's primarily the main reason that people
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are giving voice to defend up feelings in the last 5 years to the world. and are you talking about the circumstances over the last 5 years that have been so frustrating for residents, but at the end of the day, a government that gets elected even if it's not the b j b can it's realistically be expected that things wouldn't change in the body, as we can expect, a very minimal change. whichever government comes to power. and that's because the nature of the legislature, which edward is elected to power, is not going to be the same as it was um 6 years ago. because of the region was not only stripped off its sent me autonomy. it was also a truncated into the union den entities one without the legislative assembly and
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the one we've been elected legislative assembly the next week of now ongoing did. it's a union territory and the union does not enjoy the same follows as a full fledged state. so the, the bible is of the legislative assembly have already been cut because it's a union directly over and above this there was a recent order which gave over arching. so i was of oversight to the left and then governor, who is the presidential head of the state, nominated by knew that he would use the be to be government. and he would have he or she will have the oversight. bob was over all the affairs of the end decisions that the legislative assembly makes. so, you know, whichever government comes to bottle, we don't see of the assembly having much
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autonomy or would even be administrative affairs that they use to enjoy the earlier home. besides this, if it's a non b b government, that comes to obama, which is more likely and looking at right now, all of the federal government, the union government, under the, i want to jump in to ask you one more question. focusing on the point you're making about the states no longer being a state but a union petri, i want you to put the comment on something to read and the parties have been claiming they are fighting the election saying that the $1.00 to $5.00 to regain the special status or even the statehood oft, i'm one fishing me is that you're listed at all. it's going by the history of dental and vision. it's not really realistic because uh what the, what has been taken from dental and vision to me has not been given back. um, how ever that i think that is the main loan democratic uh thing that the
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government can do is uh to restore the trust of the people is the minimum that they can do is to restore the statehood. i don't see is a state of being restored of any other non be just be government comes to buy would add on i don't know that i've seen managing editor of the cost me your times in delhi. thank you so much for your analysis. thank you. and he has a to mind though, of the top stories. we have a link for you. at this hour, ukraine's president logged me zaleski has just spoken. i figured i'd have nations in new york. he has won the trucks just starting to attack. you claims nuclear file times, and he accused that i should be this dotted misfortune of trying to break ukraine's national spit across the board of strikes between a felon. has 4 law intensifying. is there a says it's getting out extensive as strikes on what is the claim so it has full of targets in dep enough? not that comes after has floated off by a ballistic miss file that reached out of the office. just say it was intercepted
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