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unless you crane heads for another when, so he's trying to focus minds on ending the conflict on his terms. is due to outline he's so called victory planned to joe by victory as a pass to peace. i'm feel guile in the name, and this is the day the, i want these for my people. real peace and justice. no one last piece and then do you to brain wants to and these were more than anyone in the world. ukraine's territorial integrity marks to be restored within the internationally recognized border port. part of these could be unacceptable to anyone who upholds the un charter. i did one piece weekly weekly week as
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possible to wait. do not divide. that will be united nations. and that will bring us this also on the day as dividers between israel and it has both of spirals ever upward. that a bad diplomatic, a path hasn't been abundant with regards 11 on we've been working tirelessly with partners to avoid full on more and to move to a diplomatic process that would allow is rallies and liberties would like to go back to their homes. welcome to the de la them. is that asking is a world leaders to back? he's country and the search for a bill and just to pace you probably being president was addressing the un general assembly and wound them back to russian president vladimir cruising and decided that he can do whatever he likes you. credit is heading for its 3rd when to was 5
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in bushes full scale invasion. and is that unexcused expected that the wife has this week to present is planned for victory over russia? full details haven't yet been repealed, but he used today speech to reiterate the cranes minimum tubs of peace. we must restore nuclear safety and their g must still being used as a weapon. we must insure food security. we need to bring it home, all our cap, shipped soldiers and civil plans, possibly deported to our shop. we must uphold the un charter and guarantee our right ukraine's right to territorial integrity and silver and t. just as we do for any other nation, we need to withdrawal the russian occupies, which will bring an end to the hostilities in ukraine. and we must hold those responsible for war crimes accountable. we need to prevent echo side and stop
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that destruction of nature caused by the war. and we must not allow a 2nd or sword phase of these russian invasion. and we need to make it clear the war is, or this is the piece formula. the most part of these could be unacceptable to anyone who upholds the un charter. that's forgetting you have heavier cop ciocca, ukrainian. m. p with a lot to me is that landscape 7th of the people potty joins us from a key of welcome to the w. i'm just before we're speaking that we heard from president the landscape, we heard him outline. he's conditions for peace. what do you know about the president so cold a victory plan which you'll be putting to the president from bite and vice president harris tomorrow? well of course it's about a larger age to ukraine, faster a, uh,
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because we uh, you know, sort of late to, uh, was getting all of that promised. um, um equip, prints and immunization for you. cringe. but also the security guarantees of knowing repetition because uh, you know, we are in this region uh bought it and was flushed. uh so uh, if the goal does not want to face, and now the full is, you know, a full fledged conflict in the area. we have to find a solution for security guarantees for you credit. and of course, um, you know, it's, it's again underlining these full of presence of landscape. probably you heard his speech today in general assembly in united nations and to live in all of the points over the peaceful of my life. and they are in line with a,
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you know, the united nations charter. and so i won't order and you know, internationally because nice supporters of the countries and is there a time frame for present as the landscape victory plan, because you don't have that much time before the, the us administration changes as well. so. so, i mean, you claim is, uh, the country that wants the and of the most of all countries because that's our people dying out people being in the tax every day and being hostages and what christmas and washing presents. so basically, uh, presents to ask you on, on the lines that most of the decision could be taken between um october and you know, the beginning of next year or the end of this year. so basically, pointing out that these administration by the administration can take this test
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says, here's the thing, but, but we lunch today president job posting will, in the russia a code use its nuclear weapons if it was struck with conventional miss styles. and he's going to say that moscow would consider any assault on it. that was supported by a nuclear power to be a joint attack. that's presumably going to be very much on the mind of the present by and presence. that landscape is outlining this plot. it's another black, my lean song, put you in and kremlin. uh right. now ukrainian troops uh on the coast region on the soil afresh. and situation and uh, you know, they, uh, full fee to, uh, the operational uh, target sense. uh they, they are there. um and so this operation is going to be continued. um, i didn't know how else ukraine can signal that you do not have to fear these red
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lines from a kremlin expand? no, not because yes, it's blackmail. but why shouldn't the west take it seriously? um, you know, uh we'll be talking a lot about these also that you know, piece formula for china in bridgeview. and of course ukraine is not supporting all these coins, but uh, you know, uh these was some of these points. uh, very interesting because china is saying directly, but they should not be a use of near cro chemical weapons, but also they should not be attacks on the nuclear power plants by the way, presence landscape address tied to in the speech in general assembly she said that's russia use, know, trying to attack or plan into
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a tech. you could have power plants and ukraine and what could be space in other to know, but you know, the biggest uh, new car catastrophe. now in, in uh, in this region. uh, those are the plans that presence the landscape sci fi ones, nothing to do with. so that still leaves us with vis russian black miles. so that's about if a nuclear power joins ukraine at an attacking it, it will consider that to be a joint attack. so again, let me press you on this. why shouldn't the west that sounds like a very serious threat. why shouldn't the west take about very, very seriously. it does the west 12 weeks in the world was no rules and agreeing was ever since the bushes says everything that no school reassess everything. that is nonsense. uh, but uh, you know,
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does was have a power and um, um, you know, the, the, uh, the solar charity among the countries to defense, the world order, the southern states and a stance against the black may we? oh, i was, we'll go to jeopardy. and lisa, again to the black mavin of, of the state that, you know, claims that will invade ukraine. it's, we, or you days or to weeks to credit late just unfulfilled wish from its allies, for permission to, to use long range weapons to strike deeper into russia. what happens if the answer remains no, as well? do our weapons ourselves? of course we rely on our partners. so we would like to have these 8 because uh,
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you know, we need these uh loan branch and wipers to attack. the military targets the airports where the plains take off and sent guided bombs to credit and seed is killing civilians, gear and children. but of course, ukraine is also develop and it's owned by fans, and we'll be targeting military targets in sites, in, in, in the land of russia, by alice house, of course. but of what we did not want to see of that were low in dislikes for now freedom and democracy. and then finally the, the, as we've, we've, i've, i've, as i've mentioned, the new year will bring a new us president. i want to play you one of the candidates talking about the war going on in your country bite. and then kamala got us into this war and ukraine, and now they can't get us out. they can't get us out. i watched him way. where
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would we will? he's been saying that for 3 years, every time zalinski comes to the united states, they walked away with a $100000000000.00. i think he's the greatest salesman on a but we're stuck in that war unless i'm president. i'll get it done. i'll get it negotiated, i'll get out. we got to get out any across europe, do you believe that a, at some presidency will, gets the united states out of the war in your country on terms that will be acceptable to you, craig? us? i'm you claim you a citizen, i'm not a voter and president elections in united states and i, she's not into being units. uh, but uh, the older comment i have on the segment is the base face about the landscape being the greatest salesman of all the times. in getting the money and everything,
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but you know, what if you sell it, what is he asking for the support? what is he's selling the, you know, the, the, the, the, the tiers of the ukranian, childrens, or tiers. so the kind of widows, or a death of your friend, the soldiers, he's not asking money for himself with a nation at war. every person in ukraine is influenced by these war. they have people, the parents in the bed. so they have friends that have to leave the occupied territories. so lensky is asking for a country for a nation, for people, or large or legal tokens, or thank you so much for spending as the time you've had the a cough drop from father me is that i was going to 7th of the people i think is of israel's top, military commander has put his troops on them that for a possible ground assault him back and on with hundreds of civilians killed. and
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he's ready, bump, bonbons to you and says 90000 people in southern bath and on. i've been displaced since monday as paula has launched, as deeply striking to is route and yet the medicine group targeted the headquarters of these really intelligence agency must set dawn speeds. we shuddered by sirens. this is randy and defenses. intercepted it has bottom is uh little bit, tel aviv. it's the 1st time since the dodge of the war and gaza that the group has tried to attack deeper into israel, like we used to. it was, it comes from the south or the no, it doesn't match the rock and i still rock and they just the striving, stressful and unplugged and i don't think anyone and this will, would like to live like this. and we'll take the kids to access these really on forces. said that intercepted several other projects i was fired from lebanon below, so made it through like here in the northern city. a so fed with buildings were
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damaged the 11 on it was a different story after these really military launch, fresh air strikes against what it described as hezbollah target's. these really armies us as well as hiding weapons within the civilian infrastructure. the tax also hit villages like this $125.00, killing me just north of may rouge, vol, from the around backs malicious traditional strong holes. lebanese authorities say there are casualties. the un says more than 90000 people. i've been displaced since monday. thousands of ended up here in bay roads with many finding shelter in schools like this one. so i'm here old enough to have them pleasant memories of the last conflict between 11 and an israel in 2006, it's of had a know i witnessed. could you live on? we would definitely scan life, but not live these day or not, but i, we suffered and we would just place onto the streets. and we also faced that in
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2006. but now the situation is my taught did a lot. yeah. had did. despite the attacks, back in southern lebanon, and others are determined to stay puts and to continue their day to day lives. like here in the city of tire. to people who flatter from rural areas, there is nothing here. we won't leave. as you see, i'm selling vegetables and fruits and people are buying and happy. we won't me this is islands, how we are the rightful owners, even have some have to 3 to protect our children and family members. some have to stay in the town. so the enemy does not think that it's empty. but with these really military giving no indication of when it's ariel bump, bump, and might end and hezbollah showing no sign of stopping its own attacks calls for the escalation by the international community seems to be going on, answered to run the sleeve is director of
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a conflict resolution program with a released institute and a non resident fellow at the johns hopkins foreign policy institute. welcome to d. w. simple question. good complicated, israel trying to bone has bought into some sort of deal. yes, they are. i mean, they have been reluctant to engage in while out or as because by law has been reluctant in, in world war. there is a diplomatic view on the table that the american invo eva said hochstein has been working on for some time. has bella has linked any kind of the magic deed on the 11th and it started from to a d. c, 's 5 d in the car. and the so a needs, especially certainly prime minister has been reluctant to endorse and as she's fine
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dean and the fact what he wants is a separate team on the lebanon. is that right? so given that and given what you were saying about the hosting a deal, now we understand about the is riley these right, the chief of staff has told his troops to prepare to go in to elaborate on. so the tension goes up. does it look as though the hawks they do is dead or is is just pos with the pressure? i think for them now it's part of the pressure, but i think that is going to be very difficult for they swear e d a force or, you know, officials, the ones that have started this ones that have from is the people that they're going to do all they can to the to and they certainly residents to the north of israel is going to be very hard for them to just stopped midway. and so what's the
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likely course that it's that i'm not able to bring has been like the submission. and so basically, agreeing to this diplomatic game is that they have to go up this kind of, that's what it led to, which means sending troops into southern lebanon to create the safe zone. the size of which i, i'm not sure some people say 10 killed me to some people say 30 can meet that anywhere within this range. that the ones that have that security buffer zone, then they, they say in the military says that that would be enough to prevent his butler from sending rockets into an organization. so why go up that to escalate straight loud? the, as you posted, why fights or war in gaza and then turn your attention to the north of the country and say, okay, we will keep bombing back to create this buffers are put out. people are in the, i'm very well no, no piece. right?
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and so the next decade, presumably, as exactly previous progressive, the past precedence up is what unit inclusion into southern lebanon in the seventy's and the eighty's adventure leading to in the last one is that, you know, withdrawal in 2000 from the south have not been good for 11 and any facts, any ground is that you to grounds in goshen is going to you know, be a good day. just the has been the, it will enable it to bring, you know, it's right to, to re, re, re, re go it will bring villa news around the flag, you know, including critics of hezbollah to day. and if it's strategy in the south, and it will eventually lead to major casualties on base for 80 side. meanwhile, what is your understanding of the, by the ministrations at position on this side is really escalation mapping on
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why i mean the analogy for that they are working on a ceasefire sanford, as you slide between has been lined is we're n. um, i mean, we have heard reports from them about tempered is as far as images that i don't know how many i stopped counting and none of them let's any way. so i, you know, read with great skepticism. any news about the united states working on it, that policy slide between israel has below, i mean, but, but having said that, the united states is the only country that can do this, that can bring this about meeting the ceasefire. right? i want you to listen to as something the lebanese foreign minister said yesterday in response to jo biden's assertion to the general assembly. but a diplomatic solution in the middle east that is still possible despite this escalation. uh, it was not so good. there's lots of promising and this would not solve the problem we need to solve, we can, we can continue like this and this situation to, to,
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out and today the model we think about that is the, let's, this is the key a to, or i would say salvation if i can say use this word. ok, so you've already said the us is the only country that could pick and the only external comes of it can bring this about. but with a and the election on the way, i'm a change of president sets on either of the 2 candidates likely to, to have a, bring about the sort of the influence to bad. that is necessary. you know, i think we have to look at the stakes for the united states and in the conflict, and has that versus the states for the united states in the conflict in lebanon. they are very worried that it majored escalation on the knees. uh, is there any front my drug you're on and eventually into the war uh as,
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as it on coming to the rescue of his below. if things escalate, but i medically and basically his ballasa city is on that. that is, that's, and then with the it on entering to the world, you are going to have this region which the united states has been trying. and so far successful it has been, you know, a boy has had to be successful at avoiding. and so i think you are going to see more pressure being exerted by the american have visitation on the sway, the prime minister to agree eventually to some kind of quiet. it's not going to be the same pressure that it has been so far exercised on the positive side on why do you think we haven't heard more from iran about this a face to face escalate? this is riley escalation against its its proxy. as we have heard from the union president who is attending the united nations general assembly in new york from the card and for the minister. and both of them have basically said,
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we don't want that each. there was a meaning it on does not want that each and, and or both of them has blend it, you know, is it a handful of the escalation saying that the cause of the conflict is basically, is read refusal to this or has a to, to agree to issue spite in esa and but both of them or so said that we are not going to stand by if his bullet is any way you know, facing could it's a good situations. but at the same time, both of them saying that they think i'm to now has, well, we'd be able to mount a, you know, could i have to be the defense or mount defense on its own without it on your head . okay. so where does this go? where is that, where is they be off from to this does each side has bella and israel just keep bumping it up in the hope that they don't go too far, or does it become a boy?
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it's the war. so the question is, how big a water is going to get, you know, are we going then start the, are we starting to at stellar? the city just been war, which since october 7 of last year, everybody hasn't been warning off. and everybody has been trying to avoid and, and, and, but at the same time fit paid for it. so i think the offer that is still is c spy. it'd be, you know, although the likelihood of that in my opinion is going to be minimal as long as there is no society. and because, and so eventually i see no other option for the spare, either prime minister and his defense minister, but not to order a limit to a ground evasion of bite. and the method cut out evasion of southern fossil nice thing analysis. and we thank you for it. honestly, the director of the conflict resolution program at the middle east institute. thank
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