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vince has done sites since russian launched its full scale invasion of his country . so as you train heads for another when, so he's trying to focus minds on ending the conflict on his terms. as he's due to outline, he's so called the victory planned to joe by victory as a path to peace. i'm feel guile in the name and this is the day the i want these for my people. real peace and justice. no one last piece and then do you put in 2 green ones and these for more than anyone in the world. ukraine's territorial integrity mazda be restored with an internationally recognized border. both part of these could be unacceptable to
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anyone who upholds the un charter. i do want these weekly weekly, the quickest possible weight do not divide. there will be united nations. and that's will bring us this also on the day as dividers between israel and it has bought a spirals ever up for that, that diplomatic, a path hasn't been abundant. with regards 11 on, we've been working tirelessly with partners to avoid fold on more and to move to a diplomatic process that would allow is rallies and liberties would like to go back to their homes. welcome to the de la them. is that asking is a world latest a back? he's country in the search for a bill, and just to paste your primary president was addressing the un general assembly and wound them back to russian president vladimir bruce. and i decided that he can do
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whatever he likes, you cries, having for its 3rd winter war farm in russia's full scale invasion. and is that lensky is expected that the wife has this week to present is planned for victory over russia? full details haven't yet been revealed, but he used to day speech to reiterate the cranes minimum tubs of peace. we must restore nuclear safety and their g must still being used as a weapon. we must into our food security. we need to bring it home. all i'll catch it. soldiers and civilians, possibly deported to our shop. we must uphold the un charter and guarantee our right, ukraine's right to their door, no integrity and silver and t. just as we do for any other nation, we need to withdraw all the russian occupies, which will bring an end to the costs till it is in ukraine,
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and we must hold those responsible for war crimes accountable. we need to prevent echo side and stop that destruction of nature caused by the war. and we must not allow a 2nd or sword phase of these russian invasion. and we need to make it clear the war is, or this is the piece formula. the most part of these could be unacceptable to anyone who upholds the un charter. let's forget and you have heavier cop ciocca, ukrainian. m. p with a lot to me is that landscape 7th of the people policy. she joins us from keith. welcome to the w. i'm just before we're speaking not we heard from president the landscape. we had him outline he's conditions for peace. what do you know about the president so called a victory plan, which you'll be putting to the president from bite and vice president harris
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tomorrow. oh, of course it's about a larger age to ukraine, faster a. uh because we uh, you know, sort of late to uh, was getting all of that promised um, um equip plants and immunization for you. cringe. but also security guarantees of molly repetition because uh, you know, we are in this region but it was flushed. uh so uh, if the goal does not want to face. and now the full is, you know, a full fledged complex in the area. we have to find a solution for security guarantees for you credit. and of course, um, you know, it's, it's again underlining this full of presence of landscape. and probably you heard his speech today in general assembly in united nations, underlining all of the points over the piece formula. and they, uh, in line with,
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uh, you know, the united nations charter and so won't order. and you know, internationally because nice borders of the countries and is there a time frame for present as the landscape victory planned? because you don't have that much time before the, the us administration changes as well. for sure. i mean, you claim is, uh, the country that wants the angel of the will. most of all countries because that's our people dying our people being in the tax every day and being hostages and what present us and washing presents. so basically, uh, presents to ask you on the lines that most of the decision could be taken between october and you know, the beginning of next year or the end of this year. so basically,
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pointing out that these administration by that administration can take a few steps. but here's the thing that we lunch today. president job puts in, well, in the russia a code to use its nuclear weapons if it was struck with conventional missiles. and he's going to say that moscow would consider any assault on it, that was supported by a nuclear power to be a joint attack that's presumably going to be very much on the mind of the present by and presence that landscape is outlining. this plan is another black man lean from uh, put you in and kremlin. uh right now ukrainian troops uh on the coast region on the soil. a freshman situation and uh, you know, they off will see to, uh, the operational uh, targets and uh, there they are there. and so this operation is going to be continued.
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i didn't know how else you created can signal that you do not have to fear this red lines from a kremlin, expand the amount, because yes, it's blackmail. but why shouldn't the west take it seriously? or um, you know, uh, we'll be talking a lot about these also that, you know, piece formula for china and review. and of course ukraine is not supporting all these coins. but uh, you know, this was some of these points. uh, very interesting because china is saying directly, but they should not be a use of near cro, chemical weapons, but also they should not be attacks on the nuclear power plants by the way, presence landscape address tied to in the speech in general. assembly said that's
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russia use, know, trying to attack or planning to attack. you could power plants and ukraine and what could be space in other to know, but you know, the biggest uh, and you call it catastrophe. now in, in, in this region, is that those are the only one of a plan that presents that landscape safety ones, nothing to do with. so that still leaves us with vis russian block miles. so that's about if a nuclear power joins ukraine at an attacking it, it will consider that to be a joint attack. so again, let me press you on this. why shouldn't the west that sounds like a very serious threat. why shouldn't the west take about very, very seriously or does the west one to leave in the world was no rules and agree and was ever since the bushes says everything that no school
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reassess everything that is wrong says uh, but uh, you know, does was have a power and um, um, you know, the, the, uh, the solar charity among the countries to defense, the world order the silver and states and a stance against the black maybe. oh, i was, will go to jeopardy. and lisa, again to the black mailing of, of the state that you know, claims that will inmates, ukraine. it's, we, or you days or 2 weeks. you credit the latest unfulfilled wish from its allies, for permission to, to use long range weapons to strike deeper into russia. what happens if the answer remains no, as well? do our weapons ourselves?
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of course we've rely on our partners. we would like to have these 8 because you know, we need these long branch and wipers to attack. the military targets the airports where the plains take off and sent guided bombs to credit and cds killing civilians, gear and children. but of course, ukraine is also develop and it's owned by pens and we'll be targeting the military targets in sites in, in, in the land of russia, by alice house, of course. but what we do not want to see is that what a load can do, spikes for now, freedom and democracy. and then finally the, as we, as i've mentioned, the new year will bring a new us president. i want to play you one of the candidates talking about the war going on in your country bite,
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and then come all i got us into this war and ukraine and now they can't get us out . they can't get us out. i watched him way where with we will. he's been saying that for 3 years, every time zalinski comes to the united states, he walked away with a $100000000000.00. i think he's the greatest salesman on a but we're stuck in that war unless i'm president. i'll get it done, i'll get it negotiated. i'll get out. we got to get out. any club shop, do you believe that a, at some presidency will gets the united states out of the war in your country on terms that will be acceptable to you, craig? i'm you claiming a citizen, i'm not a voter in president elections in united states and she's not into the unit. but the older comment i have on the segment is a base face about the landscape being the greatest sense man of all the times in
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gauging the money and everything. but you know, what if you sell it, why is he asking for the support what you're selling? the, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the tiers of the ukraine and children's or tier. so if you create a new windows or a desk. so if you find the soldiers, he's not asking money for himself with a nation at war. every person in ukraine is influenced by these war, they have people, the parents in the bed, so they have friends, they've had to leave the occupied territories. so lensky is asking for a country for a nation, for people, or large or legal tokens, or thank you so much for spending us the time you've had a cough drop from father me is that i'm going to 7th of the people i think is of israel's top military commander has put his troops on them for a possible ground,
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a sultan map and on with hundreds of civilians killed and he's ready, bump, bonbons to you and says 90000 people in southern back on. i've been displaced since monday has bought a has launched as deeply striking to is round yet the medicine group targeted the headquarters of these writing intelligence agency must set or dawn's peace was shattered by sirens. this is randy and defenses intercepted it has bottom is uh little bit tel aviv. it's the 1st time since it's out of the war and gaza, that the group is trying to attack deeper into israel, like we used to with that comes from the south or the know it doesn't matter. rock and i still rock and they just the frightening stressful and unplugged and i don't think anyone and this will would like to live like this. and we'll take it seriously to us just because he's really on forces. said that intercepted several other projects. i was fired from lebanon below,
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so made it through like here in the northern city, a so fed with buildings were damaged in lebanon. it was a different story. after these really military launch, fresh air strikes against what it described as hezbollah target's. these really armies us as well as hiding weapons within the civilian infrastructure. the tax also hit villages like this $125.00, killing me just north of may rouge, 9 vol, from the around bucks malicious traditional, strong holes. lebanese authorities say there are casualties. the un says more than 90000 people have been displaced since monday. thousands of ended up here in bay roads with many funding shelter in schools like this one. so i'm here old enough to have them pleasant memories of the last conflict between 11 and an israel in 2006. good. they've had a little i witnessed. could you live on? we will definitely get light but not live these day or not. but i,
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we suffered and we were displaced onto the streets. and we also faced that in 2006 . but now the situation is my taught did i like how to do despite the tags, back in southern lebanon, and others are determined to stay puts and to continue their day to day lives. like here in the city of tire to people who flatter from rural areas. there is nothing here. we won't leave. as you see, i'm selling vegetables and fruits and people are buying unhappy. we won't leave this island. we are the rightful owners. even have some have to 3 to protect our children and family members. some have to stay in the town. so the enemy does not think that the tendency will deal with these really military giving no indication of when it's ariel bump, bump, and might, and, and his beloved showing no sign of stopping its own attacks calls for the escalation by the international community. seems to be going on answered to run
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the sleep is director of a conflict resolution program with them released institute and a non resident fellow of the johns hopkins foreign policy institute. welcome to d. w. simple question. the complicated israel trying to bomb has bought into some sort of deal. yes, they are. i mean they have been reluctant to engage or to engage in while out or as, as by law, has been reluctant in, in the willowsford. that is a diplomatic view on the table that the american invo eva said hochstein has been working on for some time. has bella has linked any kind of the magic deed on the 11th and it started from to a d. c. 's 5 d in hudson. and they,
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so it needs, especially, so a prime minister has been reluctant to endorse and as she's fine dean and the fact what's he wants is a separate deal on the lebanon. is there a right? so given vass and given what you were saying about the hosting a deal, now we understand about the is riley these right, the chief of staff has told his troops to prepare to go in to elaborate on. so the tension goes up. does he look as though the hawks being a do is dead, or is this just pos, are the pressure? i think for them now it's part of the pressure, but i think that is going to be very difficult for these for 8040. so, you know, officials, the ones that have started this ones that have problem is the people that they're going to do. all they can to the, to and they certainly it as events to the,
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the node of israel is going to be very hard for them to just stopped midway. and so what's the likely course that it's that i'm not able to bring, has been like the submission into basically agreeing to this diplomatic game is that they have to go up. it's kind of, that's what it, that the, which means sending troops into southern lebanon to create the safe zone. the size of which i, i'm not sure some people say 10 killed me to some people say 30 can meet that anywhere within this range. that the ones that have that security buffer zone, then they, they sent you, the military says that that would be enough to prevent because by law from sending rockets into an old and they said, so why go up that to escalate straight loud? the, as you posted, why fights or war in gaza and then turn your attention to the north of the country and say, okay, we will keep bombing back to create this buffers are put out. people are in that.
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i'm very well no, no piece. right? so the next decade, presumably, as exactly previous president bus precedence up is what unit incursion into southern lebanon in the seventy's, in the eighty's adventure. indeed think to me that's what it is. so that, you know, withdrawal in 2000 from the south have not been good for 11 and any facts, any ground so that you to ground in goshen is going to you know, b as in day just the has been the, it will enable it to bring you know, it's right to, to read 3, every 3 go, it will bring villa news around the flag, you know, including critics of hezbollah to day. and if it's strategy in the south, and it will eventually lead to major casualties on base for 80 side being well, what is your understanding of the, by the ministrations accusation on this is randy escalation and happened on
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was, i mean the analogy for that they are working on a ceasefire sanford, as you spy between has been lined as were n. um, i mean we have heard reports from them about tempered as far as image as the, i don't know how many i stopped counting and none of them left anywhere. so i, you know, read with great skepticism, any news about the united states working on it, that policy slide between israel has, below. i mean, but, but having said that, the united states is the only country that can do this, that can bring this about meeting the ceasefire. right? i want you to listen to as something the lebanese foreign minister said yesterday in response to job items, assertion, i to the general assembly. that's a diplomatic solution. in the mid least that is still possible despite this escalation, as uh, it was not strong. it there's lots of promising and this would not solve the
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problem. we need to see. busy if we can, we can continue like this and the situation to, to, and today the more we think about that is the, let's, this is the key a to, or i would say salvation. it's like us, they use this word. okay, so you've already said to us is the only country that could pick and they only external comes with it can bring this about. but with a and the election on the way, i'm a change of president sets on either of the 2 candidates a likely to, to have a, bring about the sort of the influence to bad. that is necessary. you know, i think we have to look at the stakes for the united states in the conflict in hudson versus the states for the united states and the conflicts in lebanon. they are very worried that image escalation on the lebanese, uh,
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is there any front my drug you're on and eventually into the war uh, as, as it on coming to the rescue of his below. if things escalate, but medically and basically has bought a lot of cities on that, that is for that's and then with the it on entering to the world, you are going to have this region in which the united states has been trying and so far successful. it has been, you know, a boy has, has to be successful at avoiding. and so i think you are going to see more pressure being exerted by the american at visitation on the sway, the prime minister to agree eventually to some kind of quiet. it's not going to be the same pressure that it has been so far exercised on the husband's side. and why do you think we haven't heard more from iran about this? they just escalate. this is riley escalation against its its proxy. as we have heard from the union president who is attending the united nations general assembly
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in new york from their cotton for the minister. and both of them have basically said, we don't want that each. there was a meaning it on does not want that each and, and war both of them has blend it. you know, is it a l for the escalation saying that the cause of the conflict is basically, is it a refusal to this or has a to, to agree to is to spite in us and but both of them or so said that we are not going to stand by, if his bullet is any way you know, facing could it's a good situations. but at the same time, both of them saying that they think i'm to now has, well, we'd be able to mount a, you know, could i have to be the defense or mount defense on its own without it on you have. okay, so where does this go? where is that, where is they be off from to this? does each side has bella and israel just keep run, bring it up in the hope that they don't go too far, or does it become
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a will it says the war. so the question is, how big a water is going to get, you know, are we going then start to, are we starting to add stellar? the city just been war, which since october 7 of last year, everybody has been warning off and everybody has been trying to avoid and, and, and, but at the same time fit paid for it. so i think the offer that is still is c spy. you'd be, you know, although the likelihood of that in my opinion is going to be minimal as long as there is no a ceasefire in because and so eventually i see no other option for the spare, either prime minister and his defense minister, but not to order a limit to a ground, evasion of bite and limited ground invasion of southern and fossil nice thing analysis and we thank you for it. honestly, the director of the conflict resolution program at the middle east institute. thank
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