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wildfire state of the country and a decade over 20000 people and things displaced by flooding. 2023 was the hottest here on record the ship just the future definitely scares me. we're pushing to go infinitely higher, faster further. smith, and this is why we're here with a looming climate catastrophe that's coming ever closer to and then taking humanity into a new age of hot temperatures. sidelights of skipped lower to the there are people who spread a sense of panic. and once in my view, they immediately offer a solution to insight that this is our only hope. i think if we preach a culture of this will lose peoples acceptance terms, dimension, funding, family had some nitty don't find anybody. i've seen the effects of climate change with my own. i think you'd better get designated someone else. how can somebody there are drowns everywhere? we mean as much in finance and we can feel the earth getting progressively warmer
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that again, we're also observing a rise and sea levels and, but i would say that as the way i am personally feeling climate change is that it's unusually hard at the moment. we want to be as, as the be mind, but i was doing more damage in the us or them lastly to but we're the ones suffering the most as a consequence. but i got that. did it more on laura, who's to blame for climate change? who should be finding it? are the dangers being over exaggerated? or is it simply unstoppable the
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of the test on monumental? i'm 26 and from germany. i engage in simple resistance in the face of total political failure in response to the climate catastrophe. the sum item most, we all need to realize that we're in a state of emergency and we need to act accordingly, inspection 100. unless the of the stand up i have to go to work. i have to earn money and not just sitting around like you will hear what the hell talk you do to spend all the time and you start
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feeling me. you do you know it's again. yeah, it directly confirms people with the climate catastrophe at that moment. and of course, that makes them angry stuff. it's like they're angry that their everyday lives are being disrupted. just help with my pulse goes up to 180. it's the same with every protest. no matter how often you do it, you never quite feel safe. mitsubishi, you just never know if this might be the times you have someone just slammed per foot on the gas asked what i mean, the mountain done? no, we wait until the police come before we blew ourselves to the road. if we do it any
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sooner, that could be risky because passers by and motorists could become violent and might decide to pull this off by force. anya is with the last generation, an international movement that's been active since 2021. it aims to draw attention to the urgent need for greater climate protections by, among other things, throwing paint at buildings and the facing works of art, but also by super cooling themselves to as mold and blocking airports and roads. there's been goods, that's just a game. fundamentally, against using illegal methods for political purposes, although by indian products. but in this case, it particularly bound to because climate change and the fight against it along to make huge demands on capital, often see tons deactivate. so trying to convince the public by reducing the agency, preventing commuters from getting to work out from stopping parents from taking that kids to school. sick people from getting to the dump to try and good by doing this, i just the public will not accept your position. is it kind of active?
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tons is low, but that in mind you want to pump from the fact that the protests you send the traffic jams release even more c o 2. so but it was mean we progress and you foster on the climate change issues and a lot on the country. im getting tied up on the armoire about developing strong things in via my name is tossed. my name's to austin. i was sleeping. i'm 52 years old and the ceo noise of the initiative, new central market economies. i think an economic think tank that's funded by the metal and electrical industry. i look what do you sell, the launch and medium sized metal and electrical companies to be what they call make us, for example, automotive supplies and boss, siemens, the old metal industry. as a stink augusta. i think almost all companies have the issue of climate change on the radar and all doing a lot of money and whether it will be enough. and i think he might,
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instead of going to say on best buy since industrialization took off in the mid 19th century, humans have burn huge volumes of coal, oil, and natural gas, and caused a massive deforestation. pumping 2.5 trillion tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere along with other greenhouse gases. this has resulted among other things in a rise in global temperatures. the melting of the polar ice caps and glaciers and more frequent extreme weather events such as droughts, storms and floods. the she is it, you can visa tracy, so far as the things we predicted many years ago have essentially materialized where it is. and in this respect, if things continue on this subject series and signs are that they will, he will have to reckon with a considerable deterioration of the basis for life on our planet. going down the ab . perfect. then obviously that's
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the message i want to get across is that we're in a serious, urgent situation. so, but at the same time that it's not too late and, and so all of us together can still turn things around that some kind of the name of harvey up and almost every day, one of us is arrested. and one of my friends taken to the police station, i was going to look at the as, as a my work as hard as a very hard has been able to dance. i cut down mangrove trees by you because the longer the law. oh more to pick up right up and i'm going to put in a more like a 138 and i work as a day labor like the things to god. i married and have 4 children think we live in
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oil change at our job. we are getting that. yeah. the was i yeah. i earn my living buy or the mangroves there where i earn money from my wife and children. a model luggage, i mean last last that applies to me is but also to my friends who are illegal loggers as well. yeah. but, but that would be happening like the trees in a rain forest. mangroves are particularly important plants for planet or their home to numerous marine animals and central for coastal protection of the around 147000 square kilometers that still exist worldwide most to grow in indonesia and
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brazil. and indonesia. however, and especially large number of mangroves have been destroyed in recent decades, a bitter loss for the stability of the global climate per square kilometer mangroves absorber and store around 4 times as much c o 2 as rain forest capabilities have you seen me? you see me get this over here, and here we'll find dense mangrove for us that are flourishing, that we must protect together. they do a buyout. if we run into lockers, what should we do? i like how can i have another example? vicky my name is tell 60 day you have to and i'm 24 years old. right now i'm working for your company on the coastal protection organization in indonesia lane that i'm active in environmental protection. and i'm following
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up with the board that, that the coming month, what i fear most of it is that the resilience of coastal areas will be a road it by the loss of the main gross fantasyland. if the, the local entry retail has already experience tsunamis and game what happens when the main groups are gone and there's another. and i mean, i think i'm a little longer if you need to add that dense. and i mean, that's one of my concerns. and when you decide from climate change itself, which is making itself felt everywhere in the form of drowns of heat wave length, is that enough? i get that. i think that it will continue to destroy more and more marine life and then that that'd be something that's having a negative impact on the local economy and coastal regions economy much. i'd have to do that and i can lift it on the yeah, because that's the only sign of setting that we never were on patrol. we often run
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into lockers in our area and we're getting a justification is always the same from what i'm. they're doing it because of their families and their economic situation. a lot of that which forces them to make a living in this way. and when, when, when i got that on the box i have to smoke on and they ask whether their actions really are so destructive. uh, do you mean like we're young, silent, i'm noticing a lack of sensitivity and knowledge regarding the importance of protecting the environment and yeah, going from that that would be that though. yeah, i'm aware of the consequences of logging and not the data, but i'm doing it because is there's no other works. i, i've got no choice that i've done so, but not in the side as a companion. i wish i had my own fishing boat turn, a living load instead of logging mangrove trees that do that
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by cutting down trees is risky already with them. with them that you can be hit by an axe or bitten by a snake ladder. but yeah, the uh then and then yeah, logging all of these mangroves means there is fewer see life less fish and see from the define in the water. and i mean some, i can look around the that if somebody can, somebody say i'm glad data, but idea and everything i've heard about climate change is also true. with me, mind you have to add a negative stuff that i'm saying. and then then have realized that i have to do small things and then i can make a difference. so, so that we adapt to climate change ourselves. especially if that had that little mind repeating. it doesn't mean you know,
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the big ones that you can plug that comes into the stuff that limited on that sponge easy. i ended up having to use it whenever i've asked myself, why are you doing this right now? so it's because we still have room to maneuver, it's not too late and it won't be too late in 10 minutes time. either suspense, because every 10th of a degree that the earth does include up, basically, states even lives above mentioned, the 5th it is, i won't get a fall entirely. no. i'm going to put my hand under your nose and it's going to hurt. okay. hasn't been yeah, you months if someone tells me for example, it won't be that bad. then of course i try to argue the case using facts. i tell them that the german drinking water supply is also under threat in the long term. long also that our agricultural model simply won't work anymore, that this will lead to resource scarcity and massive societal of people
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who move in the north. we shouldn't be presenting climate change to people as a terrifying expect a call that have already been sent to you of surprising innovation, but it resulted in a clear improvement off to it. so based on so maybe maybe we'll find something that sequester c o 2 installs it much more effectively than today. and that would mean we could keep all the coal fired power plants running into it because they wouldn't be releasing c o 2. and today i must be, i, we don't know yet wants around the corner of americans. the spice is quite honest. we couldn't, we cannot go on like this, you know, and that's why we blocked the roads. for example, here in germany, in particular, it was a dodge, done as a nation of the global north that's also affected by climate catastrophes, but nowhere near as dramatically as a nation's of the global sounds. then under the supervisor, just the 1st column
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would be data shipped by a mattress. but if someone you know that there's no need to answer to the questionnaire. who's responsible for climate change? of course, it's a shared responsibilities on a busy guy, the clinic. but if you look at it globally and go about several nations in the north where the biggest polluters, because of their emissions and their industry and new uh, industry of the machine and ship them side as they extinguish. well, i do think that the industrialized countries in general, they're a special responsibility. unfortunately, they have profited from the c o 2 emissions and stuff i didn't care much about climate change into my mind, even though i do believe that we have lived at the expense of the climate yet. so last, liskey musket leaf top for a long time industrialized countries such as the us, russia, and the nations of europe have a me the most greenhouse gases. however, the largest annual emissions now come from china. while india, the world's most populous nation, is now in 3rd place. many of the world's poor nations, on the african continent,
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for example, contribute the least to climate change, but they are the most heavily impacted by its consequences. lemme changes the new frontier of social equality. zip. let me change that already happen at the global level. has it full countries? honda then hines, good countries, but it's also true within countries. and we also have a lot of evidence of studies of research that shows that the pull i, or disproportionately affected by the effects of climate change, be it what the stress be. it extreme weather events of hurricanes, tornadoes, floods the other part of the story is that of the better of they are a little more protected that we've just said, but they actually contribute more. so it's a kind of a mirror, any quality or this. does it think of symmetry here? you contribute more to the problem and you are affected less what
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applies to nations applies to individuals to whereas the annual carbon footprint per kenyon is just 500 kilograms on average. in indonesia, it's around 2 and a half tons per person, and almost 8 tons in germany. however, it's the world, the wealthiest people who produce the most greenhouse gases by a large margin, multi millionaires and billionaires. yeah, the sale myra women not as of course i'm angry about the fact that germany is one of the countries that so far as admitted $4.00 to $5.00 times more greenhouse gas has been indonesia. and then by the end of this year nava indonesia is a developing country and he get by the introduction and there are some but we're severely impacted by the effects of greenhouse gas emissions and the global north. and i'm again, it's not, i don't remember when did you put new buttons that are beside the side of that and those who are more powerful than we are and where are they? do we see them as the know the are just exploiting resources?
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who's doing more damage? us for them. yeah, we're the ones suffering. the consequences caught me. i mean, but i guess i didn't come on top of this. i do struggle with my own guilt because i was part in germany in the global north and line contributing. so much more to the problems you might have to buy, but even my own personal lifestyle as many times more destructive than that of a person living in nigeria, for example, idea of one. but i'm not going to this 5. yeah, but this guy and then i'm going to type of dealing with him on a 5 and so as kind of doing that over 5000. so that's, that's the beginning of the smallest possible. i have internalized the pain and suffering in the world to such an extent that i actually considered taking my own writing. so name is with with best moody. i try to live as best i can by not fine
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by eating a beacon diet and it's gone. i don't have a driver's license, i don't own a car and stuff and i don't need one. i think a cultural change in values is necessary so that we don't define ourselves by who flew on vacation, where, how and when the district is holding logistics and things that morally shaming with people if they take an airplane, is the right way to go. because to the bottom line is that it won't solve the problem. that's completely forgotten. so this would help the global climate of it to somebody came a underscore host sending that in and then it meant that i'm again with that i, am we my, the global northwest, the biggest corporate i then took that what i'm really heading, that is to get what if we're only looking to assign responsibility for the destruction, then we'll be wasting time pointing the finger step by side last year we meeting inspection. i don't know at anything that can go for in order to effectively help the climate catastrophe. and if there would need to be global binding agreements, the countries actually stick to the plan is how to at the end of the day, this is the planetary crisis and we can only solve it together. i'm gonna have to
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switch now to switching quickly run into the problem of individual countries. shirking the responsibility of the countries claiming their only responsible for 2 percent of global emissions will be a point 2 percent even by them. so they act like we don't need to take action, it's not our responsibility funds, let them be missing. if we must do something to help protect the climate, must put in a waive it doesn't jeopardize the country's economic foundation. and that's a delicate balancing act to bundle in germany's industry is very competitive on the world market, which is why we are the best and the well and to the exporting mice. so one of the best and this means that x thoughts of buying, sold to us a viable b me some without them uh, economic system and social cohesion would collapse with them. it's, it's is, i'm does less, do you what's really jeopardizing the german economy is the climate catastrophe to this will potentially cost us up to $900000000000.00 euros by 2050. if we want to save ourselves with, if we also want to save the economy. if we want as few negative changes as possible in the long run,
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then we need to change as much as possible now to restructure and offer alternative courses of action. ideally, this should happen on a global scale. assume as an instrument and so there is an emerging economy on its way up that says we also want to give all people a young people prosperity and you probably want to give them secure jobs and we want to give them opportunities to develop and grow thought i think most of these countries just focus on growth, don't pay that much attention to the environmental impact of that. in addition to that, i'm or somebody keep me in indonesia suffer from the effects of climate change. that doesn't mean the indonesia itself is free. a bad actors that caused destruction and damage though. uh that was all kind of what was happening again. for many years, indonesia had done little to contribute to climate change. but over the last 35 years, the country has been burning coal on a massive scale. and logging its forest and mangroves. at the same time,
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indonesia is increasingly affected by droughts and flooding. and its capital jakarta is sinking at an alarming rate the ditch 1st the i fear that emissions will keep rising and imagining economists. but i talk sell a nation trying to increase life expectancy from 30 to 50 years. yes, that's possible, but only if everything's done in a climate friendly manner because that would just be on the fan. the some. it's something that tell them i'm going to be that i get a hold of somebody to lose that. i don't know me, but of when it comes to the question of whether we need to make economic progress before we tackle climate change. and then i don't believe the economic love comes 1st when we're gonna meet them. i do the best color when the echo, know me because if we wait until we've developed economic land before tackling
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climate change from get by and what, what the environment look like. then and then the jump right that you weren't able to meet with them or, you mean, i mean i want to is and what's more important? i love, i'll be coming prosperous 1st, but protecting the environment. i don't know. in my opinion, the environment comes 1st because i have if you want to be rich, but the environment has been destroyed. well then you can't really be rich build up . you said that, yeah, we're going to reset the, got another form of the investor that i need on the what the current government can perhaps do to strike a balance between the economy and environmental protection is sustainable development. how does model sort of had the, can some one aspect taking into account all the impacts of economic development and reducing deforestation? so anybody, the whole bed, apart from that, the government can also move away from fossil fuels to renewable, energy production categories. at the same time, i think it's primarily about giving these countries financial support and the opportunity to focus on renewable energy as i know about it. and if you as much as that's,
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that's the way we'll get them up, we'll kind of by, oh, by on the, uh, um, novelty is indeed a decisive factor in our efforts to combat climate change. uh, even if i thought of them, i don't know because of people felt economically secure and, and i think certainly stop going into the forest to cut down trees and mon, within the line and predict the whole time, the bundle of dimensions of people who are now cutting down forest on a living need to be given a different economic incentive that those i think it was a b, i only have one goal by that that there's a change for us and legal longer. so 900 besides that, people shouldn't just say we're just drawing something and hadn't joined. there's no other way for us to earn a living for them. does that mean thought by the were forced to do this? not because there's nothing else we can do that day and we shall get the we need capital to buy a boat or something else with them, but we don't have that label. any of the. we're not rich people. i mean on that one
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. i don't, i don't that or i yeah, the yeah, that was that against that of my personal goal is to invite many young people as possible to be more active. and to understand that we really need to make a huge effort to secure a better future by a by and how do i get that done on my side of funding when you make light the give them the kind of buy up. if we don't make an effort to improve the situation to our children and grandchildren will suffer the consequences of seeing that then when someone put that on. so we're taking immediate action we can help even if it's just with small things like planting main roads and other plants along the coast of you must have fun, by the way is up to help them does i have hopes for a wonderful future. i truly believe and the good and people to each person is
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trying to do what they can with the personal resources they have available. and they're giving their best believes are very few people, if any, to behave and, and inherently evil way. the in advance of i tend to think of domestically because people aren't able to react to change, to conditions. as the anti history of mankind has shown us this, it's actually mankind's recipe for success. folks that people have been able to adapt to new situations and mom and advocate that little by signing and filing them . i can do this hard work until i'm 50 years old and i've gone willing and fed up with me then with the savings. i'd like to open a small store. yeah. so that i could continue to earn enough money from my family. but i didn't get to that to you then to yeah, yeah, but they would that would make me happy wonder what time to go for the future. i'd like to be able to live happily with my wife,
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but you say i see. and for my children to have enough to eat. and i said that i'd like for them to go to school and perhaps even to university somebody that would be enough for me. but what i knew it is what i do believe i the
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