as a journey from our farms to our tables, where we come together to celebrate our cultural identities, world food, a food is a right every day for everyone. everywhere. the welcome to ask the w o mutual. i'm feel gail. this is the new show where your questions take sense a stage. we'd like to hear from you on this developing conflict between israel and has the into that but on. and of course the breaking news that iran says and launched the files at israel with us to take your questions. i generally scream alkahottie, who's in buying brute. here with me in the studio as dw is at least out of this shawnee resolve. this is across that i to stuff from israel also with us is hands jack of schindler, the senior director of the counter extremism project in the lane. that's an engineer working to fight the growing threat posed by extremist ideologies is wide

experience in diplomacy, intelligence, and security a fast. so i'll welcome or if you're watching us that live on youtube, you can post your questions and comments in the task, and we'll get to as many as them as we can. in the next 45 minutes. a cream and by root will be leaving us in half an hour. so if you have any questions for him, i get those in as soon as possible the address as ever is youtube dot com forward slash b w. yes. all right. so let's take a look at the latest news. israel is mother, she said there was a hits from miss files after around lloyd's nearly 200 rockets, but the large number of the missiles were intercepted. israel's ministry spokesman said he was not aware of any casualties from the mississauga valley. they run said $85.00 dozens of miss styles and they were in retaliation. they say to multiple

assassinations carried out by israel, including that of has ballasa hass on does rolla in baby rooms and have massive ishmael honey integra. most leaders of those groups that widely classified as terrorist organizations. it's the latest escalation, as israel says, it's counting rates against the erupt. bonds has the law in 11 on israel as well, and iran dates attacks will have consequences. okay, so that's the background to at tonight. so 45 minutes. let's now go straight to jerusalem and get the light is for my correspondence that a time you crank. welcome, tanya. i'm tell us about tonight and how you experience this me solid to. i mean, it came with a sort of warning in a way that is what has been answered would change the home from

a guidelines. see that usually the guidelines. that's how a people you know what to do in a case of emergency. and it was said that, you know, people should be and you know, there should be no gatherings. and this was also concerning the areas to boost lim, television to center, which is a bit unusual. so people thought, you know, there might be something that more more reports came that there might be actually some iranian retaliation or missile attack coming up. so a shortly here, local time, 730. the 1st, our friends went off and people were quotes before the by the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, in the individual message that, you know, he told citizens to stay nearby shelters, to follow these guidelines very strictly, and then also by the army and then already it all happened and i think it was like in 2 major garages and people here in this building where i am, people all went down to the is actually a shots and not everybody has

a shelter. and they went down and where it just, you know, a waiting and people i talked to say they haven't really experienced such a massive a strike at this point as it took a while. and just a about a by 8 by 830 or so local time head, the admitted terry has said that people can now come out of their protected spaces . uh so i think, you know, people where remind you of course, we had an april and a talk with drones and missiles from iran directly to iran. but this one seemed to have your appeared to have been a bit, you know, a stronger, but still we, you know, the, the still in assessments, most of the, most of the army said where a large number they said, where into septic. but of course, you know more more information is still coming in about it. and what is being said that about a possible or likely is really response as well. this is now of course

uh the question. uh, because we also heard from the, i mean, i'm sure we will hear more in the course of the evening here also from the political level as saying that this attack will have consequences. and you should not forget, we have the, you know, a major bore in dogs, but we have a, a i that if you know the attacks and live in on, in the past weeks and now, uh, these incursions, also into southern and living on. and the situation is already, you know, uh, escalated, uh, although, uh, i think people who don't like to use that word anymore because every time to speak about escalation is just keeps on going. but basically what everybody's expecting now is that is we're has to retire to this last time and this happens in april. it was more of a modest response. so now the question is, you know, how will is retired? they said they would act in the time and the place that they chose and it might be

a different response than last time. okay, thanks for that. move from you. if indeed, if anything changes. thank you so much. let's go now then to, i guess, ending date your questions. if you uh, watching us live on youtube, you can post any questions. you have to experts here in the studio. the address as ever, youtube dot com forward slash a d w. news. first question in is from i use a n p c, who asks, will this attack mean or our rule between israel and iraq? what effects will best have on least the but i see in the surrounding region. let's . let's start off with with you. without shawnee, i mean, how is it supposed to look like we've already seeing exchanges of messiahs, the shock between israel and any run most definitely now coming from your on i'm sure we will also see israel retaliate. we also have the american is kinda involved

in this already. so, you know, i think when we talk about in a lot what we need to understand what exactly might that look like. and this is so hard to imagine that there's no way to escalate even further. i think what we've been seeing here is really is we're expecting at the beginning of the night that you want to try to stick to hitting military bases and middle terry, target's sort of to be able to push against israel, but not to go all in the way we see now the attack, there were no, you know, yvonne was just shooting indiscriminately wherever. and this is why is really feel israel feels like, you know, all lines of it costs and they feel free to cross any line needed. of course, it's always this who started because if you ask radians, be a tech on their own. so for entity, it was what started it all with israel, a assassinating honey in, in their capital t wrong. i'm no doubt. today we are seeing the region finalize the stable. this is not a good development, but then at the same time, i think it's a bit too hard to predict,

how far it will go. now the goal isn't as well as court. i'm going to see how far it's going to take it when they talk about severe repercussions that iran will have to suffer because of this. a tech has jacob dish, and the how do you see is around respond? well, last time around when he's ready to respond that in april they need to respond to the latest attack, which was more a combination of drones and me files. this time seems to bring my early be me styles. it was simply talk down according to the administration to sending a signal, very precise strike against one single nuclear facilities, defense systems to show iran. that's why they were not able to get anything of significance. they are very able to strike very precisely now, unfortunately, the correct quote is, the idea of says it will have serious consequences, which i do feel means more than one position stripe like last. and there is

a lot of dogs to choose from. there's no installations that can be attacked. there's all facilities, ronald reagan, in response to an attack by around destroyed some of the other facilities in iran. so this can escalate very quickly. now, especially since the prime minister in virginia. i hope without this video last night where he basically said the freedom for the reading people is close at that many things. so i feel this is the reason there is a mechanism in place here which will mean we will see some more serious strikes on iran to which the rondon will have to respond again with this well. and i'm a little bit lost to figure out how you could stop that escalation spider right now . the one administration who could do that is now in a real lame doc face of the rest administration. we are very close to the us elections. they are not going to take neighbors that are more serious than just warning as well to de escalate this. so i think we're looking forward tool,

so i'm very interesting weeks in this region. okay, so the other one is slowing down at tool for annually to see what kind of targets his relatives is. if they go directly to the raw nuclear program, for example, if they go into an infrastructure connected to energy, things that are very consequential for the stability of the regime. and then we will understand if israel is aiming here to eradicate the radiant regime or is this really just trying some keep some sort of a of an equation here of the turns ok. let's take another question from i use uh, this time concerning the timing of israel's attacks on targets in 11 on. so this is the question, why did it take so long to finally happened? it was clear for almost a year. the 11 on has to be invited to stop that has, but this is the use of saying that back, this is from the use of a taxi bond. who's a taxi bond? youtube? well, let's uh, that's to kareem. outgo hiring and in, uh, 11 on, um,

what do you think? why didn't it take so long for before israel actually launched this incursion? i think basically because it's completely out of here, what's should come out of this incursion is encouraged that to know is, is disparaging because it's very small. it is more like maybe that is not in cushion. it's all about the when it comes back to the what's happening to tonight, it is rarely even get a tech of course, and we have few and never to support us of the his balls basically be satisfied here that this is finally an answer to the kidding of the, the, the son of those to be kidding. okay. how much it'd be the explain here in the, in the toyota, that's something they were waiting for. no time. what is important is also the uranium in a statement to reduce the cards from the state latrice the fish is, will answer us. that would be another answer. this answer would be even bigger and

will involve the so called excess of resistance excess of resistance. meaning of course also his bullet in level to the meaning uh, the c residence in the in game and so on. so i think this is the big danger that this is supposed to escalate really much more than just only get on it this way that this becomes a whole front effects of resistance that are acting together in case it is right? this honestly. so people in the bottom here are worried about executive in this development. now, what's that way out of this out of this escalation? i think it's pretty key or way out of this escalation goes through gaza at everything escalate the of the steps up to where in of the the is really offensive into the gaza strip. that all the action his bullet did in the last year was basically linked to the roy the gaza strip. it's always that we,

when we do this order to put a pressure on this on yahoo in order to stop the war in the gaza strip. so this since the don't go back to this lease and finally go back to the negotiations about the ceasefire in the gaza strip. the exchange of food is really hostages in the funds the prisoners. if you don't go back to this scene, we basically ins for it because connection that would be really that way. all of that is something of course nobody's talking. busy speaking of what the problem is that if you go into the escalation, what does the n k? i mean, what ken is right now reached by taking it on by starting and is really offensive in the, in a bundle. what is the end game also for you all often and that take like, especially strategically it's, it's very, very unclear where all of this is going to end for all the different players. they

are basically seeking left north tactic terms. what's going to happen next? they've looked at those that happen tomorrow, but there's very good and thinking about strategic no, go ahead. what can be reached through all of this is again the key to exit out of this would be really to end. ready okay, fast, fast cream at cream, as all i guess is here. this evening to uh, answer your questions on youtube. dot com forward slash dw shawnee resolved this. pick up about point uh would you that the cream just made the end game? speculate to for us on, if a rob has now and said this based this field, formerly i'm in, in, in full view. the way to the end, a israel responds to way around, not just to its proxies. this does look like the whole thing going up in flames.

it's mike, and i think, you know, if we try to understand that is really mindset right now. what we've been seeing them to, you know, they were pushing very strong in the but on the last couple of weeks, what they're trying to do is to re establish the rules of the game and them at least and say basically you're not playing according to the the rules that we've had so far is real head of a tremendous shock. after october 7th, a tech, it took it a long time to move from the position of defense into taking the initiative. and this is what we've been seeing in the last month. actually, if you ask me, i would pin the point on the time that mr. neil had his speech in the congress in july when he said, gives me more artillery and i can when faster and stronger. so already there and he's setting the goal to be more aggressive and what is will tries to do. so we want to understand what really the game from attacking around now in this back and forth. israel wants to 1st reestablish its force in the region. they feel they have lost this, you know, that they had to believe in their mightiness. and their capabilities was completely shredder after october 7th. they want to, they want to re establish that even if it means washing the streets of arab cities

with, with, with local blood. if that's what it takes is really, it does not stop. so that's one thing because if they feel like it's a, it's an important tool in the tools that of, of deterrence, that's one thing. and then again, they actually feel that all of these threats, most of them orchestrated by iran and this in their proxies, is one is a paper tiger. this is what is well, wants to see it and that's what he wants to looking to expose right now. you run his very good in talking and, and, you know, keeping up appearances, we are tough, we are strong. but eventually you cannot the ways really see it. you can't really strictness, even if you look at this marriage very much like the previous one in april. we're talking about a percentage of interception that is unbelievable. we're talking about this time 0 hits, not a single person that in the report it in israel to have been hit by this. so you're wrong, gives it it's most and is says if that's what you got his, we're not afraid of you. and sort of trying to reverse, you know, the rules of conduct that we have been seeing ruling the whole region in the last

couple seconds. and yeah, yeah, i'm sure it's is that the way you use a piece is based as much as a round house. uh well, i mean, 1st of all, the prime is that it was inevitable that he sort of have to invade a living on it is, in my opinion, not correct. they weren't multiple friends that the us and the french have been put to is spa. i'm the minds burned outrages they were supposed to withdraw its 30 miles from the border to israel. and there was no d arming office ball now that was part of the office deal. and his bullet again and again continued to threaten and shoot at northern israel enough to 11 months of this. and they only got into the game to help him us. and they weren't the ones, the talking is right on the 7th of october and there were in the ones that is where it was attacking after the 7th of october. so this is really a situation where for 11 months, these way the government waited and waited. and waited, and then there was no other option. so it was not meaning eligible that this was supposed to be happening as for the ron,

this is what yvonne can provide if they haven't been managing on the 2nd time to hit everything. this is what they got. they were in 2019 a boat with a surprise attack to hit very precisely in order installation in saudi arabia. and that by established a narrative in the region that that rocket and drone arsenault is extremely effective in april very clearly, this was meant to simply send a signal. we want to respond, but we don't want to really ship anything. you do not announce walker to tax bio. they are launched on national television, giving them in the case of drones hours for these relays and the regional partners as well as us to prepare for the attack. this was me side attack which took less than an hour to reach israel. there was the minimum response time. this is as good an inverted coma, as it gets for the reading. an awesome hole that does not to say that other

countries in the region would have is similar good data defenses, but where as well, this is not the problem. the problem that israel has is you cannot accept your country to be attacked for whatever reason, without actually making clear that the attack will have to pay a price. and if the signal in april that they can hit with out even in the defenses, being able to detect that hasn't actually gotten the message throws a tear on that. this is an extremely dangerous game. and the trying again, then you will have to do this unfortunately all over again, i'm void of the extent of the is ray and the responds at this point. ok, let's bring in a karima. i will go higher and be rooted korean until this attack happens in the last hour or so goal that the tool had been about is, is rails. so suppose it incursion into lab and on and wherever and how has by law would respond. how come they 82

questions, one really, 1st of all, that has blah disputes that israel has actually made this incursion. and to does, has bloss still have the, where with old to launch any sort of 5 back what as simple as, as we can though, we don't know what is the military potentially this is for less than the sizes we. busy know that to a lot of the military dealership where kids, but they of course can be substituted. we know it was a big blow that the head of his phone, the how so most of the most kids. but that means not by far, not the end of this organization. you don't know the military participation. we also don't know really what's the long term planning, because it's the that, that it was going off. this operation is never and now of this military incursion,

if it's happening, but it does happen to really maybe have significant weight in the next phase. and if this the military incursion and he set the goal is to return the 60 cells. this is for 86 indians that had to be evacuated from russ this way. no. to supported this. it. he's one. it doesn't have to have a huge beside stripe onto. this is paula has to just show that this didn't exist. that this didn't have the potential to shoot to a few me sides here and there on to read it by just simply doing that. they will exploit this idea actually in fact, let's say, and we talk about the end resolution, 1701. you talk about the possibility. busy is paula was drawing behind the if you tanya, the river 71 by the way also, you know, is really encourages by the end or what the into, into little bit. so 2nd part,

but let's say this was him that this is going to and what this to be, they still would have the military potential property. and besides, to be able to hit this right is right, has one big problem. it has absolutely no strategic steps. the answer that is something of course is that they can look strategically overcome this disease for his bullet point if any time. so at the end, i think again the solution to this is, i mean i think we can't forget the idea. this is paula. really destroyed as much as we can forget, that is the time us we'd be destroyed. so we have this 2 different ratios in this region. we have now these reading the ration that say like when the one who's responsible for every, all of this is on we have the error of the ration is the same, like, you know, this thing that is the base of abc this was supposed to be for all of this is these

radio progression of them. so how do we get all of this? i mean really again weight is. busy first, to really end because it's for them to find a particular solution because without giving police themes, their rights, there would be no security phase in success is really the only way out of this this us. okay, thank you so much for that. carene carina allegory in a baby. i think you have to leave us now. so thank you so much for your contributions and your insights. let's take another of your questions. got questions coming in about the diplomatic role that you are, can play in the middle east use up max pay and asking, do you think of germany and europe should take a more neutral stance and put pressure on israel and the usa for a cease fire? we as germany or even the you have the capacity and capability to do that.

perhaps not perhaps. yeah, you'd like to take about a 100. yeah. yeah, i mean, 1st i just want to clarify something. there is no political, strategic, or tactical advantage ways where the announcement goes and living on without actually having to encourage things even on. so i think it's beyond doubt. there is an advance place, but it does say that it is 9 goes because if they is non good and you don't have to be spot is in my opinion, a expression of the beacon military terry structure office but not the political and economic structure. but the military structure is really at the moment as far as commodity controlled is concerned, reading disarray. so number 2 and number 3 levels of commanders of the job council, i simply no longer with us. so that ability to respond in a coordinate method is very much for to so it is a tactic launched for them to just basically deny, right? that there's any mutual impression on the european rule, the times where the europeans, where a major play in this conflict. unfortunately, a long past europeans have joined as european union and then individually several

european states, including germany on the call for the ceasefire between israel and his full life that the americans have put out during the un general assembly meeting in new york . however, the one country that has actually influence with israel is the united states. so in contact with us administration, who by the way also have said if you're on the tax is around, it will have serious consequences. if there is something that can be done individually as countries for as you, we are simply not an important enough diplomatic play in the region at this point to go outside of what, where the us administration is going. and, and i want to add to that if, if i make that, it's a pity because when you talk about 11 and for example, then we have a forever, of course, the french, they have great, a leverage and an a, an influence still in lebanon. they were trying to be part of this deal for

a cease fire. we heard about last week that collapsed even before it's managed to actually be seriously discussed. so it's a pretty because i think the 1st of all, the americans that were very much busy with the november 5th with the election, that's the main priority. they have, the americans have very much concern of the possibility of being dragged to an all out more here. they want to help is really with defense, but not much more than more than that. and they see themselves slowly drag deeper and deeper and they would really like to see the escalation as soon as possible. but we also need to keep in mind both because by law and who must be that to organizations acknowledged by the us, but not only many repeating countries as well. and this is something israel is banking on, in the sense that even if those grades divide about israel means to the goal, it, the bottom line is that they all agree on the same goal. feel could you repeat? if you look at the americans in israel, the goal is to weaken these organizations and these, you know, the excess of, of a resistance or evil or, you know, it depends on where you stand and, you know, the, she had lives connected to that. so eventually when all of these players need to

choose and the politic would they have rather have, is there a week or has bala and home us week? i think there's no real dilemma there. there's a lot of, of back and forth, and we know a lot of tensions about the means. these will choose to reach that goal, but eventually they'll, you know, share the same. and goal of seeing these forces. we could, we have reached this, this, this point over the last 2 weeks out of the gate goes on forever back into the midst of history. but these latest acceleration came after israel expanded. it's will goals to include the return of these right of these 2 to northern israel. why, why did they, these ready walk happen to choose the side that now is the time to not just try and get the hostages back not to is to it just that deal with a terrorist, but to also do this as well. and israel, the question was all along. why only now the feeling was this was all long overdue

. there's been 11 months when these people have been forced to leave the house as we know. and it's, you know, with prospects of any time coming back. if you want to be a bit more cynical, then we can also talk about the politics. how this move serves that to now internally in his own, you know, in his own base and in the political play in israel, he felt the pressure from the public glowing in a way that he could not resist it anymore. and there's no doubt if you look at the poles, if you look at it then now, now he is in the peak of power that he had been, you know, at it as much as he has been since october 7th as well that way. and he is, you know, this the slip and, and paradigm this very deep change he's trying to, to force on the game is working in his benefit. the is rarely is after october, 7th are still in the shop still in trauma. they feel like they have nobody to trust in their world. they only can trust themselves. they feel, you know, just take the day, for example, is really don't spend under inventing an attack. it has actions in the northern border. there were also in the military was also operating in jeanine and into

westbank. and there are, you know, a text by the hudy's israel was operating in yemen yesterday. so it's really is feel completely and utterly surrounded by, you know, aggressive hostile forces. and the need to push back is an authentic cry from the public. and it's, and you know, by many people also in the security apparatus feel like he finally, he's doing what needs to be done actually. right. just a quick update on until one dad and to enjoy it as a, as a consequence of office attack from, from iran. and i believe one of them is actually in the, in the, in a posting in territory. so it's also something we need to bring into this mix, a very complex region that appears. yes it's, it's not just one side or the other. exactly is it gets that how does that. maybe it's not a clear muslims versus use, a conflict comes yak, a should help us to understand the role and position of has bala

within lebanese society and politics. it's also talked about as a state within the states, but i think lots of people don't really get how completely interwoven it, it's, it's not we feet on the news. we hear about it on the news as a sort of terrorist organizations, but it appears to be much more involved with in level. yes. so is bought out really is the closest you can come to a state within a state. maybe the other example would be the revolutionary cost, the agency in iran, where you do have his ball, i having a political ring with parliamentarians, they were at some point ministers in the government. they have really put pivot at type of rated the liberties economy, including the financial industry. the is, spaulding, bang stays, but i didn't have all that services, but i think hospitals schools vacated primarily.