tv Hurt People Hurt People Deutsche Welle October 5, 2024 12:30pm-2:00pm CEST
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and we say they're about never giving up every weekend on d. w. the on october 7th, 2023. the world's eyes were on the middle east as how most terrorist attacked israel murdering indiscriminately taking hostages. scenes of, i'm inside the mobile. cruelty is really what struck to its core. just lay there and thought is this how i'm going to die to?
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i think up till the 7th. a new phase for us as jewish people, right after the whole of costs gets the blood these day in the history of the deciding these are costs like this was, is incredibly serious trauma for these really people right now. we feel like, you know, never again is now israel responded with war. it school was the complete destruction of some us. but the bombings and expulsion of palestinians felt like a repeats of their own painful history. the naca catastrophe. the loss of their homeland binaries were experiencing the most terrible form of displacement in the most horrifying way of we're experiencing sheer horrors in my opinion, this is worse then the next about and i think people have
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a challenge to find words to describe what's taking place in, in garza, i lost 70 or more members of my family yesterday i just lost my cousin and his 2 children. it's a very big drum. for the people, there's a new low and the conflict has been reached since october 7th. how can i be a terrific violence continues to be, get even more violence without hardly any compassion bite is i can help them both sign show no empathy whatsoever for the other side to software. and let's come to here because of her in this format. both of experience and the whole body. both sides are now in trauma mind. they're in, in a state of high emotion that is contaminating their capacity to think clearly. what are these traumas? and why do is riley's and palestinians continue these cycles of trauma again and
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again. what does october 7th mean for the future of the middle east? this is now the longest open war and israel's history. is there hope? is there a way out the the gaza strip? a narrow piece of land between 6 and 14 kilometers wide and 40 kilometers long and densely populated. before october, 7th, more than 2000000 people lived here. in their midst, the radical islamic militant group home us was preparing a major attack. these images are not from october 7th there. how much training
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videos in the gaza strip. they were training on different models of is really villages is really downs, is really, really 30 positions and camps. and they were doing it consistently. i saw a subdivision between those who fight and those who keeping it. and you saw the pod plans for the different angles of the training at several different sites. how much trained for october 7th, more or less in plain sight. israel could also see what was going on. we saw these videos before the end of october. we knew of them before 7 of october . i embarrassed to say that there is much more than disability. embarrassed to say much more intelligence. so we, so it's, we knew the plan for a decades. they knew exactly what was going on. they just didn't believe
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similar events to go at this point from us liter. yes. yes. and why is considered one of the masterminds of october 7th? why did homos post these videos online? why did that reveal its plans? have us like any other organizations is looking for publicity on the for propaganda and, and i think was they were doing as, as really young people around them. they want to let you to see they wanted to show how well they've been organized, militarized, working as a very, you know, well developed military organization is really didn't take the videos seriously. part of the problem is the arrogance and the feeling that we have the best technology we have the best understanding it, but the best, the best,
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the best for the those easily generals. although it was like a routine normal conduct of an army which is training for judgment. they. they did this as an ex sure preparation for an imminent strike. we knew we are facing a terrorist organization that will always want to eliminate us. but we wanted, we were sort of lived in denial that, you know. yeah, they just training. that was the, you know, what we say it's a misconception. most people living on the israeli side of the border to the gaza strip had no idea that a major attack was being planned on the palestinian side. just behind this fence lines the keyboards near us,
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almost 400 people lived here. this was, had us call the rooms home this little marshal close for about 2 and a half kilometers from the fence behind the fence or hon. eunice, and other advantages of in near us. like most people seem as an agricultural, intentional community most living there were last week and liberal. and you know, like the show i was born here that with the, with the lived into the v is the travel of the world. because i returned and started a family adult teeth. i met also my husband, my lease, but now he is my ex husband. we have 4 children. nadine and i run a clinic for alternative medicine was on the tv. the little things weren't quiet. the domestic has for 20 years, there were many terrorist attacks with rockets affordable life in the kibbutz was somewhere between heaven and how soon should it should in the most of the time it
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was paradise or at the store in a quiet green place present. but once or twice a year, it turned into how i'm shallow, it will funnel again, i'm tired of dealing, the children grow up in the shadow of the situation. and then they developed anxiety when the club, especially as the thought was my younger son, he was afraid to be alone had you. i had to put him to bed every night, social level being what we often thought about moving lip. i'm in chicago, but it's not that easy. still look a deep down, you know, it's not healthy for children to grow up like this is another one that were rude. adhere to the thought. this was home. i own welcoming. that's associated by living so close to the fence was only possible because the is wally state guaranteed security. security is not the correct word. ok for us it's an
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excess then show more. it's our a sense to keep our lives. it's not only a simple security ok and every point in addition to that, i can remember i was always running on the ticket of the social security. you are elected as prime minister because of security. not because of the economic situation. the big trauma for israel at is that jews have never felt safe anywhere in the world. as jewish people, we will always be around people that we feel wants to kill us. it doesn't matter where in the south and then all the, you know, somewhere broad, there will always be someone that thinks that we are not, you know, appropriate, that we don't these of, to live. we will broad up on the stories of our parents. i possible is some of them
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it came from the, from the holocaust they had been murdered. they have been seen as vermin in throughout europe. and also the middle east. so it's a kind of a mindset that we can live wherever and we will just need to be on the alert constant, a long history of programs, the holocaust jews, and israel are still marked by the suffering the. this is the states that we established after the show after the holocaust. okay. that came out of the ashes to be a haven to choose from all over the world. and israel was seen as the one place on earth where jews might feel safe. but true
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security remained elusive. neighboring arab countries did not accept a un resolution for the establishment of a jewish state. 5 of them attacked israel to show uh, is fixed as a holocaust is not the only trauma is riley has had to deal with this. it was the war of independence of 1948 taking that when israel was attacked by all the surrounding countries. but the key up to that this country has been going for about 240 at 56627697723229 to 6 to into 5. those. and now this got into our we were engaged, are in constant intermittent fighting and consultations with our diversities. it never stopped. i think it's impossible to understand the is
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really psychology without understanding this longing to be finally safe and secure. here in the south of israel, that longing for security takes the form of steel and concrete. israel wanted to protect itself, following the disengagement from casa in 2005, an ultra modern border fence against attacks. by the time the barrier was finished in 2021, the estimated cost was around $1000000000.00 euros. the money came, what i've done not to shoot this way. we'll give citizens in the south because sense of security. it shouldn't be the one if you shoot me and allow these beautiful region to develop those. i'm cross paths, a shift, very small. 65 kilometers long and 6 meters tall. the wall is fitted with technology complete with surveillance cameras, motion detectors, and automatic machine guns. was the invented cause of the,
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of the developments that the border is where it has found that the, the thomas is digging time. that is on the border in order to bring the people inside to keep the same inside the villages. either on more we, we post an iron board is strong defensive system, which will deter, of any adversity from wishing to do it. also, we put many sensors in the depths that's with a let us, if somebody's trying to go in under the obstacle, i don't think there is any stating the one that is some of these kind of a fee of technologies until october 7th, 2023 is real believe to this barrier was unreachable,
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and the guarantee of security was what you stop at the official heights. i believe that the surcharge, the battery out against garza and on the west bank going to fulfill 2 objectives for i know. so i 1st way to guarantee is around security and putting them inside that kind of voluntary data, shots from india with wells and barriers designed to provide a sense of security because through the stuff honestly so high steeped nobody's box, they 7 additional that a certain know they make sure that these around doesn't have to deal with the palestinians. law sovereignty wps, they disappeared behind the wheels behind the fence between probably cnn's on the off that way. no one has to face them or hear from those. and then we'll use riley's no longer reminded us, send them through day all that and we are here and that gives us place of minds, utah within how them view way i do think that is really is prefer not to think about how palestinians were and are living in garza, it's excruciatingly painful and it's easier not to think about it. people lost
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interest, so on television, we are sitting at the biggest television network and he's read if the board broke us too much about what's happening in the gaza street, but the westbank, etc. windows viewers is correct to say that the people don't want to hear about what is happening there. we have enough of our suffering. we don't want to hear a fright that people are afraid. you know, it's the same thing why people don't want to learn arabic. same thing, they don't want to be touched with that language. they don't want to be attached with these people. you know, this is the enemy. i know. i know, for fact, that people that you know, escape from the heart of course didn't want to hear german language, didn't want to visit germany that they wanted to do. so thought from that. i think the same thing happened with arabic. this is the language of the enemy and that
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enemy lives here. garza city on the other side of the fence. there only 2 border crossings to israel, and the state of israel controls everything coming in and going out shar, although bc was born here. he studied pharmacology and worked in his parents pharmacy until the war started. every day behind the fence is hard, even before the war. on the haile and i'm 23 years old. what am i to ross? i've never known a day when there hasn't been a power cut in gaza when one of the less the diamond who how these really occupation puts us under constant pressure. and they want us to leave our country do. but just how they want to take over the whole of talestine through they've been putting pressure on the palestinian people for a very long time, especially on us here in gaza and with the blockade. the difficulty of traveling,
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realizing your dreams moving around and everything is difficult. and so all of witnesses, even before october 7th resignation and depression were widespread. the blood pressure remains of domestics. his passion is top code, the palestinian national dance. lashara is one of the best dancers in garza and used to perform regularly. i'm still in the hotel if i feel like i'm flying when i danced. okay. even though there's nothing holding me back, i feel free that i can move how i want that i can last be sad. i have done, i can leap through the air. i can express everything within me to him dance as a form of therapy. group therapy. it has always been that way of getting them in the hurdle. after every attack, we dance on the rubble and dashes. can you smile through the pain?
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this is again, that's the best way of describing it. we want to convey this message that is highlighting the people here are fighting for their dream and for what they want to achieve the death. those are the misunderstanding. we're no different from the people outside or less. so like i'm can only, they have more opportunities than we do. special are believes that dance has the power to heal the numbers in the war. we teach the children to dance, adopt in a simple way so that they can practice and feel it come and when he so it's a way of freeing their minds to the 1st on the teaching duncan and especially with children is like planting a seed. that will flourish, our aim is not to train them to be the best dancers, but to be connected to their home. whether it's a loved the land, that is there's a home, the bus or like all these young people only knows from stories around 70 percent of
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guns as population, or descendants of people who were displaced or fled in. typically minnesota is that no tennessee, not our families, often spoke about the knock, the bottom of 1948th guess that of how they fled customer, how they had to leave their homes. how they survived, that was not a gift. we asked if they left without a moment's notice of the sort and that's the condition of some good. we couldn't imagine how barbaric the occupation was, no doubt, that they were under so much pressure that they had to leave the knock, but no other event has had such a lasting impact on palestinian history. when the word and the music. augusta. this is the word that the palestinians use too much too big events that took place in 1947,
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1948 north and austin field sick in 1948. all the surrounding arab states attacked israel single. tain. yesterday. i think in for a lot in the cause of this conflict that we just started out as a defense, they pull against our, the aggression is around drove the palestinians from many of the areas in question . these are could be to for 3 people in different slots and all the palestinians fled for fear of mass against uncle florence. look. but it was unintentional strategic campaign to ethnically cleanse the historic land of palestine from the non jewish population as much as possible. i think that it has a very profound effect on the palestinian psychology. the stories of a knock still burned in the hearts and minds of palestinian families moving from generation to generation. and so the trauma lives on and on. for
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example, when i heard from my grandmother, sometimes when she says beauty 40 dress meant 3. she says, yeah, this looks like the adjustment tree that we had in just my dad until today. she you still have the key for their home. my dad used to take us to our land in their shave, and i remember them as a, as a child, one time we went to my and home and there was a wedding and even i was like, so like crazy, high b, that's fine. any we, so the land, you know, this event is solely marketing and punish them in history. because many individuals get traumatized directory and it is not one event on the, it's a prolonged trauma. many palestinians were not allowed to return after the 1948 war they and their descendants still don't have a home to the state. the then that's fine is
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the basic of everything. it's the basic of everything. that's what keeps them going . that's what's generates, you know, the geology and the violence, and the aggressions and the n g and the, the mediation, and it's like, all these emotions comes from them. that's amazing. the belief that everything used to be better in the past and the hopeless reality of the blockade. a perfect breeding ground for radicalism, life and gaza was very, very difficult before october 7th. unemployment is known as being one of the highest in the world during that time. the restrictions on movements were completely controlled and the rates or of mental health suffering was also very high. studies have come to the conclusion that over 90 percent of
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palestinian children have been traumatized once or even several times by bombs, by war loss of relatives, the destruction of their homes and schools. a lot of them they are actually experiencing depression anxiety. they are experiencing anger outrage, some of them they wouldn't, they told me they wouldn't go to the bathroom unless their mother with them some of them they would stay wherever their mother is or their parent is. and they would not move from many palestinians and god. so it is clear who is to blame. no time us is we in march 2018. major protests kicked off and gaza. 70 years after the knock by every fridays. so thousands of people march to the border fence. for me, the march of return is a great event of participation in non violent activism. to claim our legitimate rights. as for this to indians, to be recognized 1st of all as
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a nation to be recognized as worthy of a state. and also to be recognized that we were forced out of our communities and our lands and our villages in 1948 through the neck of the through the ethnic cleansing campaign is another way of palestinians saying, we are here. we're human beings. we have the right to have, or a state or a country. we are tired of this to my east. we are tired of the bookcase. we are tired of the bombing. we want to live a normal life, like every other human being. for almost 2 years, week after week, palestinians demonstrated in the thousands the atmosphere was charged and increasingly aggressive from us exploited this anger. it was but a stadiums who were very,
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very frustrated with the closure with the luck done with the blockade over it does . and how most roads that waived for its benefit and present the initiated the at all but from us. yes, yes and wire come us leader in the gaza strip scene took the home of this movement the. 1 with us today, are people begin a new phase in their history of struggle and national resistance on the road to liberation and return. today, are people in casa, in the west bank, in the territories occupied in 1948 and from abroad, or coming forward in their entirety, to usher in this new phase. and correct course. some of these rarely government was alarmed when palestinian storm defense. the military responded with rubber bullets tear gas, sometimes even live ammunition. anyone approaching the fence risk to their life,
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hundreds were killed. tens of thousands injured so many people innocent 1st indians were killed during that time during the march of return. it is a failure for those who initiated it definitively. but all of us doing an attempt to achieve other things. and we're almost affiliate a, this ride diplomatic means they tried negotiation to drive the us the process, the tried to in defy this and didn't know that is affected. yeah. the easiest to are. i think that the scenes the end of those uh those the events he started to think about, parole, the more dramatic offensive against the as well. and this was of course, october the 7th. since 2017. yeah. to us. and laura has been homeless as top
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officials and the fact to leader of casa you're seeing where it is. definitely the must of mine for october 7th, what i meant team, but a little notice that how, where i know he is a very coming through the calculating dipole for the fellow people say he's borderline cycle, but i don't know. he's very charismatic. and he has a very strong personality, he's very tough. let's say he's very cool, very brutal, a few profiles. someone likes and lar. okay. um, this is a facet, that is your intelligence. the most important thing for him. send morris declared goal is to destroy israel and kill all jews in the country by the masses of our people and our nation will pour over the borders like raging floods and up route to your entire be the they will find a nice to, to stab you
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a car to run you over for a molotov cocktail to burn your hearts. what's your sin ward was born in the gaza strip in 1962 to refugee parents. he's a founding member of some us and one of its most radical voices in his twenty's. he was sentenced to jail by israel. few a sentence for life. he was in prison, forgiving, posting and collaborators not for can use, or at least he used to as long imprisonment to study his enemy. his sharp mind made him all the more dangerous to him, so he'll 20 to use in different prisons in his room. he read every single good. he speaks very good. april by reading the story of faith way as well as the higher cost. and now the other 4
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rooms the day before and i just did take it, i understood the feeling and the uh, uh, and the trauma of the jewish people. it certainly looks as though, yeah, i guess in more study the is really psyche in order to figure out how to maximize pain for these really people. it would appear that he really understand see exactly how to get under the skin of his release. fellow inmates feared and respected some more. he positioned himself as a leader among the prisoners and proved himself to be both ruthless and violent. in 2011. similar, it was released together with a number of loyal followers in a prisoner exchange. nick on jo released him along was
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a 1000 other police getting in prison is in order to get well he is really a soldier and the loud charlotte who spent almost 5 years in captivity in 2011 there was a lot of public opinion pressure and at one point the be reached the conclusion that it's politically, why is it for him to give in and release in spite of the objection of many of the security uh established, oh no, i didn't. and then this, the, even once after me and my friends stood at the prison that day, we tiers our eyes to see all the mother of the 3 chased, or he is going free. okay. with this movements and ribbons and flags of i'm us. ok for me, it was a black, the, it was a disaster. seymour was given the heroes welcome the future
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mastermind of october 7th, immediately set about expanding his influence in the hum us power structure. and he succeeded in further increasing his popularity. since the moment he came out of prison, he was speaking about doing whatever he can to release his federal prisoners who were left behind. one of the things we have to assume that's in wire learned is that is riley's will not to leave anyone behind. and for him, it's a vision to release of the prisoner which is a very sensitive point with the palestinian society. when is the minds in the hearts of the people in the society by presenting himself as the protector of the prisoner, as the savior of the prisoners,
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the fate of palestinian prisoners and his mainly jails remains a major issue in concert. send war knows that in exchange for is rarely hostages. if he could secure that release, his actions do strongly suggest that he learned that taking hostages could be extremely effective. but we can see the t decided that can do much more. i can go for a massive release of prisoners, lustful must thing, but something much bigger. i can undermine the foundations of is ready. security off is early set confidence. that's where he was. israel was initially unaware of these plans and war, appear to be focused on garza and his own rise to power. see what comes out of prison. was few of his trusted come rates. very quickly. he moved aside all the
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leaves in holding it. somebody letting you know which was after the cool thing, guys are the prime minister of a. i'm us government nia, who was killed in tehran in 2024 left for caught our son war, and his man wasted no time. they take over the political bureau. becky was a people from the military branch, the ability to collect data, she is paralyzed, send outside the gaza, a need for such a 2 guys of the center for follow 2 guys. so at the 1st time of the last decade, the follow center of mass became to be in gaza and not abroad with the exile. government. ok. in internal elections and 2017. yes yes. and wire was made head of hum us in gaza. she knew how to mobilize
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his people i'm us has established itself and rooted itself with them for the student, gen consciousness, whether we like it or not, whether we agree with it or not. and i personally will say, i don't agree with everything almost at a time. us says, when you are a victim, you are being in the corner. you are being beaten every day. and you have a hand is being extended to you. you're going to hold to the 10 no matter what is that, that is as simple as that. so seen, well, it came with the division of she, we create the, the special ed for said the new about those that's been, that's where it is. i. e, we establish the possibilities of the of come us to fight these way in a better way than a then before an important tool in the fight against israel tunnels. under the
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hamas regime. a network of underground tunnels has been built throughout the gaza strip over the years. so thought it was easy, the way for them to hide from east la force in a be them also to have all these plants that there. they have been the producing me sizes in the rockets in a way that is very, we not be able to way from the air to a, to a voltage. there are sent to the over 1000 tunnels and the goal is to strip off and kilometers long. the network is known as the gaza. metro from us controls both the construction and operation of the tunnels. weapons are manufactured and transported here. come us fighters for example. they go water pipes to use for the construction of rockets as how much demonstrates in this video posted online. there's something so troubling about the idea of water pipes,
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pipes that carry the essence of life being used to create instruments of murder. and it tells us something about the state of mind, of how most spiders it's, it's essentially become a kind of deaf cold. this is so for lives in radical islamic thoughts is the author life not the life in these words we uh, we don't understand it because we have the western way of thinking commodities about one thing, which is the reputation of the state of ease, right from the point of view, it takes precedence over anything else, including the wellbeing of the population. rockets and resolves in the holy war against the table is legitimate. this is it.
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it's as simple as that. come us can also count on its powerful outlines. i'm sure it was done with the support of iran and his butler because they are also doing some things in their countries. in september 2020 israel signed the abraham accords with the united arab emirates and boss rain mediated by the us with the later additions of morocco and so done. the focus was on establishing diplomatic relations occurred for benjamin netanyahu while palestinians were brushed aside. the 1st is rarely scheduled flight to the em or it's a symbol of a normalization of ties. there was a big disappointment in seeing the level actually of normalization that was happening. the, the, the daily continue was flight surface really you chose to do by and during parties
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and celebrations, and business ventures over there and back and forth. flying over us, as part of cindy is both sides as, as we are still suffering under this occupation. the slave you should pretty t by signing the abraham a cords and reaching an agreement with saudi arabia, the as rainy government under nothing. yahoo though trying to bypass the promise damian's altogether. so he can talk to you about the this is the typical behavior of a child who covers its eyes with the times when it's afraid. little comp deal with a situation. most of the will be punished, people won't get income. the high point of this normalization was the 1st visit buying is wally president, to abu dhabi. israel celebrated the deal as a major turning point. but for the palestinians is represented the threat, relegating the question of their future to the margins. they protested, angry me against this perceived betrayal. the, i think,
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published the news and many other people in the other board shield the deborah hum accords to present to those who signed it. based on to present the hopes and the conscience. investigate ation of the admissions, of course, of the pedestal news and i think get the upper home accords or another tools to deny that has to be in history and publish them in twice the publish digits could greatly benefit from a broader they should be part of that process, but they should not have a veto over the process. he very arrogantly thoughts the take on the shop into the police sting in space. the fact that he is about to sign a deal with. so do you ever have, you know, even though the saudis insisted that passed away towards the police thing in the
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state be part of the deal? the whole middle eastern has a new middle east on the walls of an on the map. no guns, no westbank, a psychological trigger of pass palestinian trauma. but we do something else. i think there was a direct correlation between the tax of october 7th and the accords. that's what happened, especially with so there were a bill where the gaza strip, how i'm us, the political solution for the, for this, the indian situation was neglected. my opinion is the, how about us was trying to reclaim a power position in the negotiations in determining what is the future instead of being marginalized. then there is the unresolved issue of the as rarely settlements in the west bank and east jerusalem, which violates international law. now, 150 of them with more than 700000 inhabitants. that means one in fort tina's wiley's now lives in the occupied westbank, including east jerusalem. natania,
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whose far right governments cleans the exclusive right to what it calls the to day and samaria area. the west bank. the settlers ken trait their political power for the wish by li, good in general than that done. you know, personally, to rule over israel. so the tail is wagging the dog. is there any, is a project, it's a movement. it's something that is all of that time extending all the time. once more land, more houses grabbing more land with less spill us. the list for this thing is more or less so this is, this brings back all the time. the mean? what is of the next many palestinians feel totally traumatized by the experience of having soldiers checks them before they can cross
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a board or more obvious triggers of trauma for palestinians are taking of a house. obviously, any kind of military action, any kind of is a really violence is a trauma trigger for palestinians is slow, but does keep the i think there are true during the thank it's on both sides. diesel is riley ministry violence terrifies the palestinians. and rightly so, who is how they're afraid that they might be driven out again? foster 3 again to list unc sandy is ryan, is a ron k afraid that tara attacks against israel and well again, we planned and carried out to the development. i think what we are doing in the westbank was more and more fully. and so since this is going the future of the is wally jewish state. no question about this situation escalated it further in spring
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2021. it began with protests and the chaise, tara neighborhood in east jerusalem against an anticipated court decision to evict palestinians from their homes. to make way for his wally settlers. i think the shades of became a symbolic expression of, of the ethnic cleansing campaign that's happening in the round digital sort of. and then especially because it was led by very extreme village settlers. that's for engaging in this. and then they made it very, very clear. they're demonizing their attacks, they're insults of the palestinians that were living there and taking homes and removing the furniture or throwing it out in such a brutal way was was a wake up call for many people that this, this is a continuation palestinians and some left wing as whaley's protested against the fictions amid this he through the atmosphere, clashes broke out on the temple mount and his manly police storms b. o x,
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a mosque. the 3rd holy a shrine for muslims come us, took advantage of the palestinians. outrage the most sore feet to portray itself as the guardian of the holy place. locks up in jerusalem. how must fired rockets b as rarely response was harsh as usual for once again broke out with hundreds killed. yes, yes and was house and the gaza strip was also destroyed in an attack. but the moment there was a ceasefire. he came out of the ruins and set in a chair to show of course that he has survived that he will persist. and um, yes, it was an act of defiance after this particular operation. israel believed
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erroneously the come us will be the tubs as the chief of intelligence at the time said, that is 2 and a half years ago. they will be the to, for the next 5 years. at least. tell us out what's wrong in early 202310 months before october 7th, israel had its own worries. the country was rocked by demonstrations. hundreds of thousands took to the streets to protest against the government's controversial judicial reform and curtailing the power of the supreme court. net on yahoo was under increasing pressure day where intelligence reports on quotes from us that they understand that the situation in these room is very bad because of the dispute. about the d. c. l, a, a, reform. at the same time, the adf was monitoring suspicious activity on the board,
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or with casa supporters. you know, they for, to 2 or 3 weeks before the offensive, they watched and, and they, so all the training and you by the boulder and they were told, listen, uh, shut your mouth. you know, you know, you know, nothing about the strategy because we know that there are the, tell them there is no, no script. but i think that a don't want to see something you won't see it is really was watching carefully at the some us channels. and from us the v and radio and use papers, the main slogan was, do you hub jihad, do you have something was evidently brewing in the kansas strip. amphibious landings, dummy tanks, house to house fighting in september, armed palestinian groups carried out joint trails for these situations is really media breed forwarded on these exercises. but the government did nothing yet.
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intelligence had long been in possession of the so called jericho wall plan, almost blueprint for a large scale attack. we had the plans, we had hold, we got hold of, you know, lots of documents that that literally said what they're planning on doing. it wasn't even a secret, most of it the question, if it's more, a dream was raised 3 or 4 days before the attack. and everybody said, from the intelligence system, that it's only dreams, it's only trade an extraordinary miscalculation with terrible consequences. at this point in his real people felt safe so safe. in fact, that a music festival was held near the cause of strip. it's not on that bite. we left the house at about midnight. people had said it was going to be
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a huge festival accidental. my oldest had been brought in from abroad and it was going to be really cool. an opportunity to celebrate or know, trying to see if i didn't ask where it was happening is i knew always. then i saw gaza on the navigation and asked how come were so close to gaza? the check, i know when we arrived i saw a lot of police security and military and thought, oh ok, we're safe here. it will be fine. worst case scenario there might be rocket fire. maxine will be at the the not as good the i can't describe the feeling is that it was the greatest 6 hours of my life. we were jumping around enjoying ourselves. it was more than just music. we must have the whole, they may have the more they come talk tobar 6th around $4000.00 people came together to dance and the negative desert. just 5 kilometers from the border
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to gaza. on the other side of the fence from us was beginning their assault on israel. phase one 1st of all, they activated all those little phones which is really sim cards, which have been bought freely on these really market. this was one of the signs that from users point to few should have brought the whole army under boulder. if they wanted to communicate, they couldn't have used the police string and phones wanted to operate that into it is, well, the problem was that we fated one. this then that's this activation could you could be for only one purpose in tel aviv alarm. so we're going off among the intelligence community. we know that there was a visual meeting, go face the heads of the military and they understood this something, something different is happening. and the they decided to talk again only in the
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mornings. too late. the attack began that same night somewhere around 4 o'clock in the morning. people on the side of some us were doing the most in the other places. so you have an unbelievable situation in which $3000.00 how much fighters are called to the most, not by phones or any rate you buy messages. physically instructed to pick up the weapons from home and re bought for beauty. they still don't know, they are going on the thing. they think it's a dream. most of one of the places where under needs they have immunization and everything. only a handful of c'mon, those new really nothing's going for really low level and and i spoke with quite a few of them. they knew about it only in the morning. early in the morning,
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6 29 am from us launched thousands of rockets just started with the real k. it's a new size and because they knew that these ways are used to new sizes walking across the country, all sorties declared red alert. it's not a regular campaign and you shoot $3000.00 or $4000.00. you can see on tv screen all over the country all over the country. there is an artillery of these sites. so many people understood a documented, but there's going to be in conflict ration. but nobody so that it would be next week, the rocket, the garage, was meant to cover up for the real motive of the operation. how most fighters used to aerial drones to drop coordinates on the towers, disabling the cameras, sensors and automatic guns. what some us cleverly flint
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was to hit, goes very sensors in the 1st moments of the attack, shooting very simply some 3000 heavily armed fighters from hamas and other militias advanced to the board defense. when they were on the fence, they told all of the warriors, it's not the real well going in and then they explode. defense in dozens of points on the fence. scene war has decided, i think fairly last minute to go for 60 paul points crossing points into is ryan instead the 405. you know, to grab hostages. go back. and that'd be, go,
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shared an exchange every unit was in charge of a specific place. you are in charge of that community, terry base, you're in charge of that city. you're in charge of that 2 boats. so everyone has a mission. they can feed 3 of these rentals. kudos pick up trucks, they didn't know about the other missions. okay. they were very focused, very specific, and that's how it was so well. great. so it's thousands of homeless terrorist storm the border homeless knew this way in the army wouldn't be fully operational because october 7th was a jewish holiday. and numerous troops had already been deployed to the us bank. defensive strong points were over run. then they attacked in motorized power gliders on the way the clash in to the music festival was a surprise. they didn't have intelligence about the sparky or this festival head.
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okay, but it was a very good for them. thousands of targets. the festival organizers were informed that an attack was under way. suddenly the music stopped. the case i shall live and i looked up at the sky and saw what looked like fireworks mine at the time. i don't want to come by we were by the dance floor and saw dro and, and wave to issue the mission. we thought it was part of the event in was photographing the festival, the and the machine. bob, thank goodness no, don't go. it seems more. yeah. and we heard the shots coming closer and closer but
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i just wanted to kind of see what all the end of the shoot the field. suddenly there was a truck in front of us. they ran at us and shot at the car. the let me see madison, we jumped out of the car and started running to me for people next to me were falling over. i didn't understand what was happening to service at all and i had to stop like my legs were shaking. i couldn't run for a shot, there was smoke everywhere, and shots being fired above me, my life lovable. i didn't see my life last before me. the way they say you do is you to i just lay there and saw on you. is this how i'm going to die? more than 350 young people were murdered by hum us. it was a massacre. around 40 people were taken hostage at the festival and taken,
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took asa more and more fighters cross the open fence into israel. once it started a fluid as is to joy and then suddenly before that, you know, i've never been trained to cross the border and when to put on their frustration and then get a new id on the pool victims that were that the is, or the villages and towns are so close to the boulder 5 minutes, sometimes walking, sometimes running that ordinary knees used to cross several points and now within the they can see once across and it's became a jungle of warfare on the other side. how most terrorist also attacked the keyboards. near was to have many of the residents were still asleep. the militants
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fired at anyone. they saw the. i heard voices in arabic. shouts screams, terrible noises, mean explosions. and i realized they weren't just rockets. from after about an hour's walk, we managed to get into to the mean keyboard seat near or engineer. we are here in the heart of the settlement, the, the distorted will fit at half past 8 in the morning. i got a message from my ex husband who is with our children by saying there was a terrorist in the house. they jumped out of the window of the safe room and were hiding in the bushes seemed push the power was off, including the air conditioning. it was dark and hot and i could hear them coming in
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with such a lot that they were in my house. they would see by the annual deal. they weren't in a hurry. that's what struck me. they weren't in a hurry. they walked around as if it were their village candles up, social and cooler. they walked around and tubes casually and they looted invalid. they brought their whole village with them make up the young children, the older people, every one was there, and no one came to save us. the window outside, but i saw houses burning michigan tar cars. everything was broken, ultimately destroyed, burned for mutilated bodies. so finding i began to realize the extent of this
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catastrophe. sure, sure. a little show we were experiencing a show. i mean there is no other word for it or touch it or something. if i called my family a lunch that my children didn't answer, their father didn't answer obviously until my mother didn't answer too well. you must, the 5 members of my family had disappeared, the more roach i didn't know where they were english and my mother is 80. no, no. yeah. my 13 year old niece is autistic adult is it also failed. the father is my children. it's been the status of my 12 year old son, and my 16 year old daughter, so ha ha, i panicked. they moved shortly afterwards. a video appeared online. how the zillow it showed my son as being taken hostage.
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the same 5 days later i got the official confirmation that they've been taken hostage on october 18th and there was a knock on our door english and i was informed that my mother and no. yeah. generally had been found in a shelter in a pool of blood, the whole costs and the love, the just to lead them the, the militants, abducted as well as both the young and old and took them to gaza. the
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day planned to capture are 10 to 20 people's. those are the orders and to bring to $140.00 people was a surprise was to teach a surprise to us. and for them was almost every is really know someone who was killed or taken hostage on october. 7th is the bloodiest day in the history of the jewish people since the show on the holocaust. israel was in a state of shock and other trauma. the i look at it backwards and i think it's, it's the looks like looking to be more like a night soldier's civilian man, woman child. they were all for the, for from us legitimate targets folder atrocities. it was
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a messic or it was not the military operation. and it was a risk. the militants had infiltrated 18 kilometers into israel, murdering and taking hostages. it was the beginning of the southern negative was conquered for $48.00. it was carnage. before too long, the question everyone was asking was, how could the state of israel let this happen? the was, it can be nation sort of murphy, slow. everything that could be wrong happened on this, on this day. there was not enough force. people were not in the places it was a holly bay morning is wrote in a way prepared for a very, very minor incident. not of for the outbreak of the war as i say. so i am
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citizens of israel. we are at more move north in opperation, but not around to find team in the ad will. oh yeah, the enemy will pay an unprecedented price. is real, trying to re gain control, recapture military posts and free hostages to the the feeling was a mixture of shock. shame, revenge, failure of human impulse. but it is not a good strategy for winning. that was very apprehensive and i expected and very the vengeful and the action from is there any of these? and i remember very well calling my cousin and goes at that time and say, find a way to get out of there. this is going to inflict a disaster a few hours after the mass occurs is real attacked concept from
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the air with a devastating effect. 3 weeks later it launched a ground offensive with tens of thousands of soldiers. gaza became a battlefield and was reduced to rubble. is rarely forces began destroying the terminal network. they also hunted yachts, yachts, and why public enemy, number one. what footage showed that he and his family had escaped through the gauze and metro. it was found in a camera as v. vi. ours, in the tunnels that we entered, it was taken on october the 7th or 8th. it was found several weeks later. by that time soon wire went elsewhere was not seen ever since. i think is there any way to do whatever possible to kill him,
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but he is not the guy who's going to die in bed. he's in a bunch of boys or it's i'm the youngest on the off. i don't know. he knows better than anyone or defenders. and of course he's surrounded by a, a hostages. i do believe my information that they will be able to get to him the bus because of the field for the lives of hostages. they refrain in israel, the october 7th massacre, it has a face this oversized banner intel, a v for aids think who benefits from the division? unity. now seymour is any credibly important symbol for hamas, but especially for the is really people. so we can understand to the need the
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perceived need to get him to feel safe, dusty, so focus exclusively on one person and say once we get him, we will win on how to me that same pantano think that you seen the front teeth. i think seen while he's important black but not the most important. it's a symbol, but we don't have to prolong the wall in order to find him. we might find him in 10 years from now or so is road, of course. not finding it better and more clever ways for conducting surgical strikes in order to get the hostages out and to kill seen where are and his colleagues according to the united nations airstrikes and the invasion of the gaza strip have killed more than 40000 people. and injured over $90000.00, including many women and children. israel defense the large scale attacks by claiming the from us is hiding among the civilian population. the more than
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70000 buildings have been destroyed. hundreds of thousands are homeless, hunger disease, and despair are everywhere. they can't even imagine the level of fear on trauma as the population and gaza is living. and now not knowing in any moment if they or members of their family are going to be killed. i lost 70 or more members of my family. of course we lost all our homes, we lost everything they we ever had. ready ready ready the worst part about what's happening now in gaza. ready is that it's being devised, everyone knows about it. everyone can watch what's happening and goes on their screens. and the world has not managed to stop it. ready yet another generation and casa, is living through more becoming traumatized and susceptible to radical as ation.
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this will not make us well safer. it's correct to say that the people that are now suffering from easily we be allowed to use way in the future. it's correct. when world war and no one can say, there appears to be no clerical. what is it destiny if any i had once? what is it that is right and why are they trying to eliminate, you know, tell us the news totally. or what is the deal about her elbow busy fled the bombings like many others. i had thought we just had a strike here. the hyphen like i know that there was something there was shelling to. so it should i think it was very loud. a little behind it to help with the situation here is dangerous about it's dangerous to be here in the home theaters. it's also dangerous for anyone thinking of returning that's like up until the war. this was the big prison about them and then closed on
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3 sides by offense. the 4th signed the see, have you come on since the war has turned it into a small prism? i a, now there are planes overhead, the bombing trying to kill us, you know, booked a female special or no lives in the south. the north, his home has been completely devastated. the us up to spend the worst thing is you don't know where you're going to, where you're going to live on the island. if you'll ever go home again out of it, the quinoa, she rose. i think we left without knowing that we wouldn't come back. but we didn't think it would last 6 months. we send to ourselves maybe a few days, 2 weeks, and we'll be back on it online. no, we didn't even take our clothes with us. no documents, no certificates issued nothing that was important to us. since october 7th,
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hundreds of thousands of people had been fleeing across garza in search of shelter . there was a lack of water, food, and medical supplies during the costs. these are normal people from gaza city highly. they've been on their feet for $200.00 days and you can see it in their eyes. and they're marked by grief and exhaustion. now by unit above all, they've lost hope to continue living there again 100 because there was absolutely nothing left to in time kind of struggle. there was constant bombing death and destruction everywhere. so there's no safe place left them gaza, just like on that was simply too dangerous. in the north. they wanted to drive out the whole population from northern garza, the shore and his family have fled 3 times now. for now, they are camping here on the beach, but on other levels,
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these places were uninhabited before the war had been or is mission has we're experiencing the most terrible form of displacement in the most horrifying way. we have to endorse such cruelties. there are no winners and this more palestinians are experiencing a man's death and suffering is we'll is morning. it's dead hoping that the hostages still held by hum us will come home. so but the guys in the button cuz the hostage taking was a horrible experience for the as right as the date was before, the idea that there are still hostages and tunnels and columns that today the women are still being rank is something that i don't think any is riley can cope with
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these kind easily ab, yup, it won't even come west because you're both innocent citizens that the brutal terror organization keep. net and, and they really, the software that you made you mediation is, is, is unacceptable on, is cut out, but it's a, is route, has to come to a kind of melancholy, some form of depression and of the seal. and the faces of the hostages can be seen everywhere in the streets. everyone here knows their names, their stories their relatives in particular continued to protest against annette on the yahoo and his government. like here outside the u. s. embassy in tel aviv, decently stream ryan clean government is keen to continue the war for using a not focused on bringing home the hostages. so simply, nathan, you did not care about the hostages, or at least understood that you will not be able to reach his well aim of unlimited
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. come us. if you could about the hostages, he said the reason why you, you had a solid, let them, you know, saying to the families you're playing into the hands of seeing well, which is of close to over to say to the, to parents of children to, to do but i know where he comes full of calls seen well and the others know that we are sensitive and know that we are a democratic stay to know the people we demonstrate on the streets. of course the families are keeping up their campaigns and on leasing their anger. this demonstration is in front of the party headquarters of the code. then you mean that on the, on whose party the hostage taking has re triggered the trauma of to show you some us. so i have to, if i'm honest, who's playing a remarkably cool game, a kind of psychological fan. so you might continuing to post videos of hostages
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also some place to these that way they get under the skin the is really popular with to present some psychologically they hurting us a lot. i mean their attempts to do everything they can to we can us is quite visible and it works. these glimmers of hope are where ring is. we'll down cut us color runs ex husband is still in the hands of some us. her children were released at the end of november, along with $108.00 other hostages in exchange for palestinian prisoners publishing . this time you, my children were missing for 52 days. then they came home. well, can we haven't each other and cried. it is as was in shock, and he smiled, but he was in shock that the still hasn't been able to cry to the stay. salma cried
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immediately and didn't stop. and they talked and talked and talked this affair back . i live but it's not over low. they keep really, they know tobar 7th, the site they live in uncertainty plus and share with the facing. but at any moment a terrorist will attack again. somebody to hold on the other home is no longer a safe place. like the color to come in with remove their innocence has been stolen high and if there's been literally taken from them and since there's no more happiness, none, it's sort of old in it's i realize it myself. nothing makes us happy and more so symmetrical. come in as much as we used to be able to enjoy small things. now we can't was never a little cool. it's as if something has been switched off completely. the love of our site is not
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over yet. there father is still there. the you can cite this kind of pain for over 75 years is re lease and palestinians have been locked in a never ending spiral of trauma. i feel traumatized. this is the bill was long. i was born into the stories of the holocaust. i was raised under was, was soldier in a war and traumatized from my earliest. okay. new research. and if your genetics confirms that the traumatic effect goes for a few generations, that passes from one generation to a few more generations in the future. and i expect the tweet better stadiums are
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affected by all these forms. october 7th and the warren casa, have ensured that just another generation of young as a lease and palestinians remain traumatized. the hall is returning to the scene of the mastercard. for the 1st time, she can hear the war and costs are waging in the distance. the fish is this car that will stay with me my whole life. oh so many people i will never see again. she's trying to find ways of coping with what she experienced
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lowest goal, i won't sink into sadness and depression, amazon. well that's so that's what they want. gamma story, i won't let it happen. you know, the name is todd because of my i thought about what i could do personally to tell the story so that people know what really happened to the people that she doberman. my car, also to remember my friends who are no longer here. name sherry, she can follow conn, and to be the voice of the people who can no longer speak to the court, surely done by the end of in the disability. and that's how i can know how much really high everybody. thanks for coming and even you all are going to them is a better that those people i come here and tell my story and i can't believe it really happened. obviously, i can't believe i don't want to call it and it was to go names needing says,
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if i watch videos that i'm in the field anyway, i still means videos that it happened and i'll be sure to call you i can't believe that such evil existence i'm ok on a boat because they didn't just come here to kill motor team here to ma'am, to familiar to degrade us. it was so kind to him. so you might see if the trees could be a me is there about 2 forgiveness. after one, everyone has been through that seems impossible. trauma research has shown that hurt people are at a higher risk of hurting other people. the claim that hurt people hurt people is not meant to imply that every person who is hurt will hurt others. if you being huts, and on top of that to be educated, that you need to be violent towards some people. and you also be educated that your family is being hacked as well. and that's where people are hearts as well.
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and you learn of your history and, and ways that you know, contribute to that grievances and that, you know, reading really strong, victimization. then all that will definitely leads to the fact that it will hurt that as i've interviewed a lot of perpetrators all over the world. and what i've noticed is that perpetrators invariably see themselves as victims and perpetrator leaders use that to recruit followers. they tell us story about our victimization in order to mobilize fighters and in fact, where i notice this, the most was in talking to jewish extremists in israel. and how mosque members the style more when trauma is the basis of an identity or
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a victim identity before he prevents you from having empathy for others. because you want the victim sites sense. when should the victim feel empathy for the perpetrator in vermont? because if you all the vacancy on the other person is the pump of changes on the photo, you know, responsibility is taken for one's own violence on either side. i think about the violence it is excessive about these of your home and sizes. so the 5 has consequences, which responsibility must be taken to become by design. instead, both sides of the victim narrative you that much into minds is that finance and relieves them of responsibility for the up. and the consequence of always seeing one's self as the victim. and the other as a perpetrator is that it becomes possible to commit atrocities. and i think that applies to both sides. bashar is trying to help heal the trauma his way by dancing with the children in
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the refugee camp. so it will say to the adults with the difficulty of dance training specifically for children depends on the teacher and be and even both of the teachers are under enormous pressure and have to develop a sense of how the children are doing for the kids fun. everyone has their own story, their own cultural background. and now they're all here together in this place. robust site that definitely yeah, the seats and it come with that it is so it can be hard to pull myself together when i'm teaching like i can let them not have to keep showing them that i'm full of positive energy under which i want to communicate to the children of, you know, so that they learn to loved dance as much as i do to be mess with the stuff with them. and then i use the traditional job to them to try to fight the
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negative energy around us. and that is the only way we can get through this, you know, why has bed stop despite the circumstances we do our best to put a smile on their faces. so you know what? i think they're all happy and enjoying the sphere we create all have i think that in their minds are far away from the war. is there any help? any way out? just think could suffice. i mean, i think to scientific home for the tide that will have both being severely traumatized can find a way to reach one another in shopping. does this get me in the shadow of a shared experience of trauma was they could develop empathy for one another in 3. come through. i know, but i think the exact opposite has happened in israel and among the palestinians. some type of sealed empathy is very, very important. things think it's, it's h,
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what will allow for people to start communicating again, the understanding of both a societies of this realm of the other side is very important in order to reconcile . no question about that. i don't think that there is the groups in both sides, small groups, that of talking to each other, families that there is signs of adults as with kids. it's very small numbers and i don't see it in the near future is helping me. i don't believe that the only wrote a piece is fine trauma therapy. we simply don't have the time for that site. that's why i believe peace negotiations. mazda begins, only then come on, begin to deal with their respective trauma. so is that on the schools that we're not there yet not there yet. the . ringback the,
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