the cost the how much terror attacks inside is real. on october 7th, 2023. 1 year later is real is a nation scarred and a nation at war on multiple fronts with no end inside. and the hostages were taken by almost one year ago. many have not returned its fear that if and when they do come home, many will not be a law. i'm bring golf and berlin. this is the day the screening to be in my work. every morning is october 7th, because we don't out my father and many others. mazda. 6 that day we have been fighting. this is the war, very existence, the war of resurrection. by tumbling, we've gone to this point on wayne night, let's say for those writing,

these are the partners, and they need to know that piece of these people were willing to fight. we are changing the security reality in our region to ensure what happened on the 7th of october will not happen again. also coming up can germany be a mediator of peace in the middle east at the same time, maintaining its unwavering support for is real to the this find that the says if you and with your friends in israel, we feel with you the heart of the pain the uncertainty and the grief we stand by your side for to our viewers watching on cbs in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day remembering a day israel wishes that it could forget. on october 7th, 2023. the militant group home us carried out the unthinkable terror attacks inside

is real. some $1200.00 people were killed, making it the deadliest day for jews since the hallway cost on monday is released. mark the somber one year. more thousands of people attended a commitment region in tel aviv, where a minutes silence was observed on are the victims. our 1st report, it takes us back to that tragic day and a warning. some of our viewers may find the images disturbing. the sun was just about to rise, when over a 1000 rockets were launched, israel from god, as millions of is really is rushed to seek shelter. 1500 him austrian militants on land. cnn broke through to israel, gaza border friends, and more than 60 locations, minutes later they reached is really military bases and the nearing border communities on the way they shot indiscriminately

a pest service by all the while. the rocket beverage continued in various palestinian militants and civilians kept flowing in through the broken fence. the fighting expended to over 30 different locations in the south of israel. one of these locations was the nova music festival. hundreds of rivers tried to sleep for their lives. cases of sexual violence rate and other atrocities were reported in the weeks and months that followed. the mentions of the cottage was slowly exposed to videos posted on line by the mouse. the picture was green and unprecedented. tara tech had caught is real by surprise. whole families and communities had fallen into the hands of homo as a very sore and citizens of israel. i mean, we are at war not even in operation, but we've had to have more than we come up in the in the 1st hours these really security forces were fleeting and civilians were mostly left alone to fight

. thomas was sitting houses on fire, shooting hundreds to death and has taken over 250 people, hostages, back to gaza. only after 48 hours did is really gain control over all this territories. and the breach border on that day and into you the past tense, over 1600 is really to account the some 100 hostages as to how to buy from us. he's really extracts on gaza, started that morning and soon followed by full skilled ground invasion over 41000 palestinians have been killed in gaza in the war that followed up to the 7th day to change the middle east. but i'm joined now by omer bartel fee is a professor of public austin genocide studies at brown university professor brought job. it's good to see you again. we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us

on today, which is a very painful anniversary for israelis and for jewish people everywhere. how deep would you say the trauma is from october 7th? well, if you ask about israel, i would say it's extremely deep. uh, it hasn't gone away, it seems to be actually of changing society sort of sleeping in a, in a way that may explain some of the way in which is really, society is behaving right now. but it is very deep and it's generally has no being worked through, i would say, yeah, and say the way it's really, society is behaving or changing right now. you wrote in the guardian recently about a recent trip to israel and you,

you talked about an inability to feel empathy for the people of god. so i want to bring up a, just a quote from what you wrote. you said that the impression that i got was consistent . we have no room in our hearts. we have no room in our thoughts. we do not want to speak about or to be shown what our own soldiers, our children, or grandchildren. our brothers and sisters are doing right now and gaza. we must focus on ourselves on our trauma. fear and anger is strong words, professor, is it what you observed? the natural reaction of a people who safety was seriously undermined by the october 7th terror attack. or do you think it goes beyond self preservation as well? i mean, it does go beyond self preservation. in a sense, it's a counter productive. you know, when, when you said the,

the inability for empathy since the, you speaking to me from bell. and i was thinking about the same as text, the inability to, to more of the book that came out in the sixty's. we got thing germany's response to what happened in world war 2. and i think it's, it's, um, the mechanism that i see in israel now is not simply the people sign it difficult to think about what they're doing to others because they're so engaged in what they're doing, what has happened to them. but it's a kind of paralysis that occurs in society with people. so that will do it. and so shock through the kind of thing beyond the immediate actions that are happening. they can think tactically, but they kind of think strategically, politically, and that is everywhere. it's in the law as a society, and also it seems to me,

in the higher echelons of the military and certainly in politics. and that in the sense makes for an ending war. and if you think about an empty war, it will, with those clear political objectives, it becomes an absolute for, and that's really the implication of this inability to see what you're doing to others. and what is the purpose of it? what are you actually trying to accomplish? is it fair to compare what is happening right now inside israel, into these relays with what happened in the united states into the americans after 911? i mean, there was also this trauma. there was also the war against terror. there was the war in iraq, but at some point that more faded away st. yes,

i mean and presence in bite. and when he came to israel and the same as visits and hugs gave for an attorney, our bear hug. and so that, that way he could then persuade him and destroy any public to see things the way he sold them. his warning was don't do what we did. don't don't lash out, think about what you're doing. and so in that says yes, there was a few that that would happen. and that's, isn't it in the what happened? but there's some major differences. one differences, the american went to wage war in iraq and afghanistan. that's very fond of the united states. israel is waging a war on its own board is in fact that the gaza strip is, is officially still and occupied territory and now in lebanon. so that's right there. the 2nd thing is that there is, i'm on the one hand you can say as many people said that the prime minister nathan,

yeah, really wants to have the, will go on because if there was stops just like an american cars to. and so you know, he will full, his coalition will dissipate any agreement that he reaches will be the end of his coalition would be the end of he feels that in that place would be saved at the end of his premier ship. but behind that there is actually a strategy and i believe that's what this teneo is trying to do right now. and we have seen education, so they'll just send the last 2 days is actually to take over the total control of gaza to empty at least the top 3rd or 5th of the population and to gradually and next the hotel, a cheap and push. as many people as you can out, and that's very different from what the united states was doing and it's gonna send a new rock. well, he can only do that with the force of the idea of the is really military.

and you know, for, for our viewers, you may not know either you grew up in israel, you served is really military. earlier this summer you were back in israel. i know you spoke with is really soldiers and reserve is. are they thinking differently than your generation of soldiers in israel thoughts when you were possibly facing military battle? yeah, i was sold around the world's nice the 73 and the subsequent war of attrition. i was a certain enclave of the time. what was the quote uh um, yes, i mean they base really, i mean has changed definitely in many ways, the most important way that i can think of a changing instance now. the lowest and most of the army increasingly mid us are long. so we're talking brigade combined as division of commodities and going even

higher, a come from a different part of society. we would mostly secular, um, and sort of support this of the labor policy in general and what you have now more more national religious elements, which are much more extreme, politically. so the, i mean, that says is motivated by a different world view from the one that we had. and that coincides with what i was just saying. so i think that many soldiers do want to eradicate the problem and believe that they can do it. the bumps, i don't think it's possible, but i think that's a general direction. and the government right now, new teneo and the people around him, very much in trying to accomplish this goal, although they don't always say openly. so the northern infinity, i'm self. you and i spoke professor here on this program just a few weeks after the october attacks last year. and i remember asking you

israel's actions in gaza at the time constituted genocide. i'd be interested to hear how your views have evolved over the past year, or have they changed or they have changed the i think i wrote in the, in the space and the guy that came out in august, you know, in november i published and all pets in the news times, november last year saying that there were probably won't crimes and crimes against humanity committed by the idea. but i didn't think it was genocide yet, but i was wanting that it's a good to want to guess it now. so is to make sure that it doesn't happen, but of course things continued the us uh, which is the main power broker there because it's the main supplier of arms to israel. second place is, of course germany itself. a continued supporting israel did not broke se if i could

not force israel. saddened by may, i would say when israel went into rough. uh, i think i felt that i could no longer deny that what we was seeing is actually edge on the side of the companion whose goal is to destroy the person and people in gaza as such to make the place completely uninhabitable. 4 percent is and that has been happening, that is the population is being displaced multiple times. the at least 41000 people killed the thousands of people under the debbie, the tens and tens of thousands, closer to a 100000. it was being wounded and we don't know how many people are under the deputy and the long term repercussions of this ongoing to many turn, these us, this content is now for a whole year, and nobody seems to be able to solve it. so that will have long term repercussions on any ability of products. it is to live in the place. so i think yes,

by now we can certainly say that we're watching a genocide unrolling. without anybody stopping it. a professor on my board talks joining us tonight, professor, we appreciate your time. we appreciate your insights as well. thank you. thank you very much. in the year since the last word, taylor attacks, global alliances with israel have been put under intense pressure including those with the us. in germany. germany has a special relationship with his real rooted in its historical responsibility for the holocaust, the murder of 6000000 jews. that germany to have seen its relationship with his real evolve since last october gemini, chancellor, had the script. he couldn't get this wrong issue at the security of his right

citizens. this stuff is on. so it's was in israel 10 days up to the 7th of october attacks by stats goods on humans. germany's fundamental pledge to guarantee israel security will announce if the countries responsibility for the holocaust and whose government backed those words with actions within weeks germany increased its weapons exploits to its role, tenfold, foreign minister on the bad books travel to the region 11 times in 12 months always dressing germany's commitment. but then as israel's military intervention against come us cost a humanitarian disaster and gaza. german statements began to gain yields. we cannot stand by and watch cuz it stimulates risk starvation. when the international court of justice in the hague order israel to take measures to prevent war crimes listed in the genocide convention, gemini, face tomorrow, conflict back to the quote. oh and is really government willing to define its

rulings? the general government has in no way looked the other way and not realized how extreme the political landscape and israel has become. as benjamin netanyahu intensified a tax rather than pulling back as the quote demanded, that was global outraged, and the toughest language from germany to date. and as a friend of each row, i want to be frank. this angle is not helping each real to meet that security needs to the con for you. it only serves how much cynical drive to provoke for the escalation east bureau must exercised its rights to self defense within the framework of international humanitarian role. these new tone spots concerns that gemini is commitment could be waning. a substitute in the israel is in the

front row, front row against all of these terrorist must be and i hope we stand there with the franchise to understand that in those friends of israel, above old gemini and the us. i've also been trying to bro courtesies file festing, gaza than in lebanon. but natania po insisted on the full how must surrender. but if they don't, we will fight until we achieve victory. total victory, there is no substitute for it. was later he or did the strike come, they root that killed the, his ball, alida hassle and this rolla, as the united states increased its military support, phase ro, gemini, voice squads of alarm. a military with the military logic is one thing. they often be the elimination of hezbollah, terrorist is a guy, but the security logic is something else on the thing, this risk. so the stabilize ation of the whole of lab and on each

w. and that's just by no means the interest of the security of israel and kind stuff i as in scott, so it is a high it is for you. it's as in 12 months, germany has gone from unconditional solidarity with ero, to mocking the difference between israel's and national security interests. and the interests of the government of been, you mean a ton yahoo! a small step in rhetoric. but for some, a giant leap and how gemini fulfills its commitments to israel. so what does it mean when germany talks and support for israel being starts result in or a reason of state? i put the question to step on football and expert for german is really relations well, i prefer as to a very fundamental principle of state policy, which in germany and the drug and context refers to its special relationship with

the state of as well. and the jewish people, so it's not just a political position, but it's sort of a moral responsibility. and it was supposed to reflect the lessons learned from the past and the holocaust, and the dust and shoeing very special relationship that somebody has with, as well as a jewish people. how far would or, or should germany be prepared to go to support israel in your opinion as well? i think so. what's a good currently the main support that germany extends to israel is diplomatic backing up to a certain extent. and we might discuss this a little bit so that of course is a close acceptance of security. i got, i pulled up the ration and cop corporation, but we've seen that germany has stopped delivering weapons from the beginning of this year. and of course, there is a certain extent of she made a terry,

an age of this being extended to especially to the listing is the god of script and other places. and so while germany does support, as well as position the con conflict, it's still sort of emphasizes the need for functionality and protection of civilians. and i would say that increasingly, germany is put in a hot place between on the wong and tank. it's a special relationship where there's 2 of them. on the other hand, of course, also at heritage to our international law and to and to be sure to terry and know the german chancellor repeated. germany's unwavering support for israel today. and he made another call today for a ceasefire. do you think that call is being taken seriously, given how much back in germany has already given israel, as i say, but in general, the question is, how much influence do a foreign actors have in the current situation?

in the middle east, obviously we're not talking even at all on an to instead that for an act as might have a home us, which is the 2nd party to the wall. but we're talking about the incidence that might have on is where the government and i think that just does this part of the for 2 or 2 reasons. on the one hand, i think is what has an historic experience that in the last result, it was being left with only resources and it has to make the decisions of its own. and on the other hand, we do not. we didn't know what the end game of the account is, where the government is. so germany, it has to be cautious and it sort of stands towards it as well. and trying to balance as i sat on the wrong hands, special relationship with this one on the other hand, and tearing to international law. and of course you to the sort of still claimed to go on the, to stage where there's a solution. you know, some analysts say that is real, may or might use the, the conflict to expel palestinians to move the lebanese away

from the border with israel. in effect, that israel may annex land in 11, not how will germany support for israel look if that is the case? the 1st of all, i would doubt the sort of premise of the question. as far as i understand is what you discussed and as far as i understand the concept port of the, of the people of israel and the governments and the armies actions in the south of 11 on i do also here a majority, a clear majority of voices that one is well against and protected and stay within within 11. i think they agreed a sort of the outcome of the cars measure as the current war against the cause by law and level on is to move this one lot at north of the you tiny rather. do have a clear um,

area along the boldest slip actually has been agreed upon and the resolution 171 in 2006. and i think with that is where the false is what we to and i think is when it has a very strong memory of the 1st and the 2nd level of these war and the 1992 in 2006 . and i think there's a very clear majority of us when you said will not tolerate a prolonged stay of the, of the armed forces and to solve them or not. i think with regard to gaza, the discussion is quite different. the all voice is ex, ex, especially with a within the extreme this right, which is a part of the current government which for, for a renewed supplement of the gaza strip. and here we really have to see how it is when the government will and continue its actions at the moment. the business and gal government is, is sort of at a drawing as they the more on and on. and i think we are also here hearing was normal, it's just from within this where the society to and the wall and gaza that was

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