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the the, [000:00:00;00] the, the god so, and i is the cause of god, but would even be housed and it was a full, fun, fun kind of thought special germany is seeing a shift to the right. people here are protesting against the far right because they were afraid that history could repeat itself is the worst part of german history, the nazi era.
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after that, we said never again. but could it happen again? the, in the well, i'm in frankfort. 35000 people have gathered to protest following revelations of a secret meeting of 4 right groups, including the alternative for germany party or a s p. i think people need to understand for you in front of those who are now voting for the f d, for example, either in protest or simply because other parties aren't strong enough. but they need to be aware that this was what motivated people in the past to they said, we're not right wing, but in this and that, but in the exact same phrases are being used now,
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like people are saying and thinking the same things and it will ultimately lead to the same result. i feel like we're on the cusp of 1933. i study history a lot and we're almost at that point so that i think where are the some of the movements where society can turn? it's very, very important to remember we learned or less than last time, and it's time to wake up the can we really compare today to then to find out. i'm heading to the city of my mom, where germany's 1st democratic constitution was signed in 1990. in the years that followed out of hitler's nazi party became established to his seizure of power in 1933 mark the end of the final republic and its democracy. weimar is
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a place steeped in symbolism which hitler exploited for his own message. as early as 1926, the nazis held a major party conference in via later the field received a euphoric reception. here the funeral was greeted with cheers from the crowd's environment. the regional capital of the range of his convoy drove by otto peddler square to the house of a fond hotel house. i've arranged to meet sancho mailbox. she's a historian and the nazis or a national socialist or her specialist feel. particularly here in syringe. yeah. i asked her if history could repeat itself. now, i know, i don't believe it, history repeats itself. it shouldn't. i think these kinds of analogies are important because they can highlight the fact that our society or our politics may
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be in danger placed in the size of the field. and they can reveal it to angel's threat to democracy. come with us to move cartoon show that democracy can also fail and that democracy can feel suddenly shots, no one's in rhode island. there are major differences between german society and 1933 and now in 2024. and that means any analogy quickly reaches its limits on the look of ends. so what exactly happened in 1933. on january 30th, the nazis paraded through the center of berlin. they had finally made it into the government. although the national socialist scotches 33 percent of the vote, hitler was appointed chancellor. the conservatives brought him into the cabinet, believing they could keep them in check. but hitler had already made it quite clear what he would do once in power. to tie it all.
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the way in february 1933, a fire at the high stock parliament building allowed hitler to get an emergency decree passed. suspending civil liberties. a campaign of intimidation and a huge propaganda. dr. health denazi's when the national election a month later, they then passed the enabling act, allowing hitler to rule by decree and bypass parliament. hitler was a dictator within a few months or other parties with disbanded the knots, if occasion of germany or like shy to him as hitler called it had begun. he started planning ambitious building projects like the gulf of them in via a huge complex and headquarters of the nazi party in through india,
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a demonstration of power that still stands today use us in the nazi era. now this was the gals durham turned back in 1933, so north and will not tie on the highest plan. it was designed as a model side for national socialism. and during the day, all which was regarded as a model region in or model go as the nazis called in stock, i got it. what did it mean to be a model go? as an interior of the nazis had already had great success and through india before 1933. what was it i forgot truly about of india was the 1st day to have a nazi minister in the cabinet after the election in december 1929 step by and did send on once, and we got no one on sundays him sleep. then humphrey, who later became hitler's interior minister at the national level was 1st interior minister here in syringe. here in a conservative coalition, hatch was will link and all you tried to get all left wingers out of administrative positions and stuff. communists from the coming may years or teachers for example,
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mice, whether it's new that somebody should be a excess of the quiz. he also had the portfolio for education, where he tried to reshape the culture to bring about a kind of national socialist transformation of society and politics. just item that is the shuffling deputy take in fact, so let's move out on that. so what was the mood like among ordinary people? how could it come to this is global. i think many people had a real sense of crisis after the 1st world war and the economic crisis that followed. interesting asking to seek not the which of jeremy knew suffered hyperinflation in the 1920s pile. and then at the end of the 1920s there was a major economic crisis. actually a global economic crisis, which just caesar individual i to which of these a little golf situation in germany was very unstable, to seek a stop ins cuz i'm in the up a circle. on and off. there was a general feeling among the population that they were sinking into chaos or dr for
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and water. and use for example, were blamed for this. as were those on the left of the political spectrum machine. what they were accused of plunging the republic into even deeper chaos. good to watch one. so people were just hoping that the nazis would bring about a return to a 6 your in orderly society, and go off the position gift instead, the nazis unleashed a 2nd world war, in which more than 70000000 people would die. and in the holocaust, the nazi set up a regime of systematic murder, killing more than 6000000 jews. today, a monument in berlin remembers the jews murdered under hitler. but not everyone approves of it. like germany's best known, far right politician, the leader of the a f d party in syringe and view on how we germans,
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our people are the only people in the world to have planted a monument of shame in the heart of its capital. we will take back our germany bit by bit the se now has seats in nearly all the state parliament and the federal parliament during elections and 3 eastern german states. and september 2024. the party got around one 3rd of the vote. the range you actually got its 1st a if the district administrator, more than a year earlier, the district has made history of the d as now mainstream tardies here in the region . the rims. yeah. and in germany as a whole, the was a little bit thoughts on, i'm you called sonya back zone about was a strong hold of the national socialists in the early 1930 in zeus and in case so
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comparisons are bound to be made on keep the sweat and perhaps there could be something like a right wing political culture that has remained more or less under ground disease shamia or the. but i think the analogy should not be on for stated supplies, finish of all of those on. because i would say that the a of these electoral wins are taking place in a different society or for, but that's reflected in the demonstrations against the far right in many cities and through india time, you know, in yenna an airport. but also environment and other smaller cities of all environment. so this civil society that established itself after german reunification needs to be taken into account of you listen to think is open question on seeing one man who's been observing political developments in germany. all his life is got boom. he was born in 1932 and grew up under the nazis. he was germany's interior minister in the late 19 seventy's and early eighties and had to deal with a left wing, terra group,
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the red army faction piece. and how do you see the current shift to the right in germany other be a huge help in mind. them throughout my long life, i've never seen such a concentration of problems and threats as we have now. it's got emma, except that i have always been extreme. some is there, i've always been extremely. and as always, your butler has never been such a concentration of recess as the she came to us. and that is the difference between people who hold extreme opinions and those who represent an aggressive form of racism. even specific or does is that is the hallmark of the far right at the party and others in this country of the growth of the right wing. these items right wing extremism x x service is by no means limited to the do you think it's present in wider society to stick with it is also present important in the middle classes. going to do about cycle. does he have to spend this fundamental belief that the
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people need to be defended certificate in the summer presumptuous enough to define who the people are up to? this is absolutely against the constitution. since the constitution states that the dignity of every human being that lives here must be protected, they can you and anyone who negates that, like the, the you want. this is acting as the constitutional court has ruled lights. and nancy's is quite clear as national socialists. we've been living under a band since 1945. we can't do anything and a straightforward way at a normal parliamentary level because they won't let us just. then we have to take a roundabout way. this includes creating front organizations or using the democratic mechanisms available to become a political force in this country. full of outside of pollution companies want to be in this are kind of footage is from the 1980s here, neo nazis in the central german state of hess. and we're quite open about their
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desire to turn back the clock to 1933 using democratic mechanisms, just like the nazis dead on the i'm fun for an election night in frankfort at 3 pm. shortly before the deadline, mikhail conan submitted a 186 signatures of support on certificates of eligibility and needed to stand on. formerly, at least the not true and alice, i'm loom party or n s, has met the criteria for running and the local elections in frankfort. it's less name for the nurse. i and i was linda was given a hitler salute is illegal in germany. they called it occurring in silver instead, mission coon and was
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a leading neo nazi in west germany in the 19 eighties and comrades, so long as you don't allow yourself to be stopped. we'll be unstoppable, finished, too. and i'll be unstoppable as long as you have faith in me, but in the end, there will be a revolution. and it will be more radical than last time. in 1989, the small town of long and near frankfort suddenly found itself at the center of the far right movement. like to ask the neo nazis wanted long and to become the 1st city in germany without any non german residents. such as schmidt has researched the history of right wing extremism here in south western germany. you can, what approach did they take here? now, do you have them implants? basically, they salt publicity, you from fedex? so the hand of the leaflets organize information stand and above all me trying to raise doubts in people's minds, but they're very racist. high rates. the young women never physicals and i by who
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didn't was very media savvy and approved in that respect. in principal, if you could business on that, we'll still use very well. if you went public with his provocative ideas, he would get the media or response feeding. otherwise they repeatedly tried to cause unrest on the street to say he might be defensive children, the wolf, to toss it off to the how successful was communion with his approach. and that's the existing step in terms of the publicity he was able to achieve very violence. and as i said, he never succeeded with his election listed on get these 2 tier, the local elections ones with his nation. all those i'm a little under the slogan, implement a will of the people foreigners, i think that never weren't needed on the but that wasn't his goal. and since he wasn't expecting to make it into parliament with a small numbers they had, they basically use the elections or election campaigns to gain publicity and then that they were successful in cologne as his wife. and so they weren't trying to field the next mayor of london. the goal was just to get as much attention as
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possible. i'm kinda going off to see exactly what they were hardly nancy's, and this was how they weren't interested in parliamentary democracy unit. they ultimately wants to do a full list of parliament by the name of this group was always to rebuild the nazi party email as they saw themselves as a new se, stormtroopers, yvonne of the open late the night, the whole of cost. i'm rec, screamingly violent. after german reunification they also moved into east germany, increased the mercy of hundreds of supporters of germany's foremost neo nazi me. kind of to noon, marched through dressed in at the end of october. he's still mobilized as the most followers, despite spending years in prison and in spite of infighting within his movements. non reunification has given him and his followers and new ideas is slide up. unfortunately, reunification did not bring the unity we hoped for. to review the on
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a revolution that sweeps the occupying powers out of our country. fake. i never heard of you on a revolution that sweeps the foreigners out of our country. we want to take to the streets again and we will take to the streets again until germany is truly german. this sounds like the of these re migration plans, although michigan kuhn and never use that term. i'm driving to a group and a small eastern town on the polish border. here too. right wing extremism flourished in the 19 ninety's. i'm meeting with a woman who experienced it 1st hand kind and was regularly harassed by neo nazis. she still feels the need to protect herself and wants to remain anonymous. call them via open with a very, very right wing town. it started after re unification and continued for a long time. the town was in a big muddle, a kind of vacuum. there used to be a lot of industry here and a lot of jobs,
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but all the businesses went bankrupt with an issue in the space of time. everything closed down and people who are unemployed. it was a very gloomy atmosphere and these pushed them. there was a discontent in the sense that people could no longer find their way in this new country. and that's what, at the same time, there was this sense that the foreigners were getting everything finance for them and didn't have to worry. so people made this totally what connection and is that speak effective front of on a spot, and it was somehow cool to be right when a scar, a lot of young people who jumped on that bandwagon to discuss this. they were skinheads working fine. the i'm done so i'm just moving on november 23rd. the murder is hatred targeted. those went till now were thought to be fully integrated here. the migrants where i lived and worked in germany for decades to me or not to set fire to homes and none
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killing to turkish children. and one woman by the end of the year, a right wing extremist had murdered 17 people and the like. never before in the history of the federal republic of germany has tara claimed so many lives. it didn't mean to, to get close to many were deeply shocked. protesters form chains of lights and cities across germany to take a stand against the bar, right. terrorism in munich. more than 400000 people took to the streets on december 6th, 1992. yet that same night, the government agreed to tighten germany's laws on asylum, the back to good and 25 years ago. right wing xenophobia claimed to live here to a
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small group gathers at the scene of the crime every year. the level, whatever remembrance we cannot learn from history, that is why we're here today to this course to remember the moves are that happens in this month. i called at the murder to and on and also to warn that it was never happened again. see if the police have a reason brandon burger and investigating a group of right wing use for being blamed for the death of another jerry and asylum seeker and globin for this. you must in the case made headlines across germany. oh jerry and asylum seeker, 5 read went through was chase down by 11 use. he broke through the glass door of a house to escape, injured himself and blood to death. the youths were known to be right wing extremists, and we're not afraid to show it in court. they came in there trademark bomber
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jackets and combat boots, but they got off with warnings and light sentences under juvenile law. some only got suspended sentences. he's a good thing, we always use this commemoration to highlight the current activities of neo nazis as one in the races, discourses that are gaining strength in the center of our society. i'm stuck with them and it also in there are still blank spots on germany's map functions where there has been no anti nazi demonstrations up ended up. i kind of north either because the kind of people who would want to organize them of left or because people are too afraid to unfortunately get from the valve of side. no, you would certainly fit with the answers. we got from trades people when we asked them to support the demo that much, much the team. let me quote some to you know, you can just simply by support your cause. i think what you're doing is good,
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but i'm afraid that my store will be burned down like other men different or i'm afraid that someone will come and smash my windows. no doubt that whole people no longer dare to stand up publicly for the values that should be universal officers. the mayor of group and is also here for nathan and is democracy working here in globin is people who speak up fear for their own. well, being with companies of the i just on the phone with the i don't believe any member of the city council here would be afraid to express their opinions in the mind. it may be different among trades people that they're worried about their clientele, and they'll have 20 to 30 percent actually vote for the a f d. those are reports. potential customers will tend to your all so i can understand the business. people who say i'm going to stay out of politics to a certain extent. so pretty much the for the whole group and has $20000.00 inhabitants. 300 people attended the demonstration against right wing extremism. that must feel very different to demonstrating in
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a big city with tens of thousands of people. kevin was also there. and that's so we'll have to get the demo that we organize. it happened there were about $15.00 to $20.00 nazis present. so in my opinion are willing to resort to violence. i to not just on the they want it to disrupt the demo, and i think their aim was to break it up to, to, to go in there and indeterminate people and separate them to position on us and, and that's a choice. and then saw some familiar faces since somebody made their normal members of society and one of the people who was there is a late judge and the district court another as a dental assistant. so these are people you can meet at any time from kind of the sleeping is a small town, so you're bound to run into each other. here you're going big. that's what said
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like for you as a smart. but me just means that when i go shopping for exams, i left them before when i'm in a public place. so i'm always looking for indicators that might tell me if this person could potentially be a threat. untruthful seem con, i'm wondering what their political convictions are, but it's no longer as easy as it was in the ninety's. us in the ninety's it was very easy. the name of today's nazis no longer where combat too much with white laces are they are much better disguised, isn't few best are good times and they are building up structures their own think tax networks and channels have they already arrived in the middle of german society is there a genuine risk of the country repeating? it's not the past. i'm back in syringe yet to meet stuff on comma, the head of the regional intelligence service. he should be able to tell me if i need to be worried. welcome then what's the greatest threat to our society in terms
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of the far right? i know for 1st we have and then friends, great wing extremist movement mission to in tooling about not only in through india and the whole of germany, this doubleclick um the slip. i had thing for the dangerous thing about it and what makes it different from previous years is that the right wing extremists are now working together in a coordinated manner that like to explore this, this was sent over the past several years. this movement has started conquering more and more areas of society, culminating in the fact that the f d mazda use now not only represented in nearly all state parliament, as well as in the federal parliament if the are also getting respectable, parliamentary majorities, tablet problem, and time issue me a hyphen element in recent years. the far right has managed to create a claim. it must be yours to answer to the point of conducting purchase. and so some of which are already being carried out in mirrors, officers and district cancels and thoughts and don't wish to see what's going on with the so only those who fall in line are rewarded,
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so to speak. the over isn't. yeah, i'm going the basically what we now have a situation where the party i supported in some cases by a 3rd of the electorate from already has such a majority in parliament. they end up taking on government responsibility bundled, or at least helping to shape the government's agenda started owns and when the exercise their parliamentary right, it seemed so for example, by sitting on the parliamentary control conditions with, you know, for the intelligent surfaces besides, those are good now they then have oversight and control over those who as part of a stable democracy are supposed to fight precisely these enemies of the constitution to him from home as even so it comes full circle. i don't believe that's what the mothers and fathers of our constitution had in mind and good include a history repeat itself. it sounds to be a 100. and so you understand, at least we have seen in many places that history can repeats itself. the quote is the federal republic of germany of volume, our republic today, no,
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not yet sent about the box. these are the events that we are currently experiencing for including the strengthening of enemies of the constitution that some were already in parliament. um i can get their hands and the leaders of power. let me to is this comparable to the stats of something that sees in the volume or republic and then under national socialism itself, he's done a lot. yeah, i would say quite clearly. yes, it's comparable. and that should make us think of the started my research. i thought these comparisons to 1933 might be a bit far fetched. but now i realize it's a scenario that is not impossible the eco,
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