or o, no c or with the play. it is quite likely that the, somebody like him, lloyd such a huge influence on his organization. we change things on the, on the ground. i mean, he and, and come us, well the, the biggest, the spoke little on the piece process of the piece poses of the police didn't use site. one of the main reasons for me to, to go for the us know process. what was the strengthening of come us a $9293.00 a. so you still use somebody else and we don't know. oh, might be that he's a successful about the of doing some, somebody as old be a ready to way make out of how much a game guides of a, a social movement or even a political body. rather than looking became k c to say the end of the

hopefully 272-8080 over $88.00. then they'll might be a historic change. if we do somebody who is a actually the go logic, a successful of, of, i will say you see it seen while then they maybe nothing will happen for now. israel's prime minister seems to be happy fighting on multiple friends. but at every stage, he's stopped listening to his closest ally, joe biden. does he have no respect fun, obviously hoping that to spend donald trump will be in power again to literally in the last gave me a very difficult question. mean, trying to spend the motivation of the, of the be, is a very big jennings and what you've watched him closely for many years. yeah, i wasn't child, you'll see me and i was a, an equal weight. and i was a inmate in

a position to him and both as well. but that the point is it doesn't mean that the stand if we think this is doing and directly i tend to spend less and less. does he despise the by doing? i don't think so. i don't think so. the point is that the he a, he cherished he is a ongoing, a k road. his, the brand new stuff is way more than anything else, including the relations so way through with other countries which he is losing. and including the cooperation with united states that he understand in so many is not his for his business. and they have the physically in bulk of, of, of a i. l must be pulled and that like a week is way, but a one you would use to, to choose between these lunatics and these cabinets like bank with and the smoke lead to and others not only then. then he chooses them,

not because he prefers them, but because without them he doesn't pivot company. hey, a call he should. but why he's making that choice. would you say that relations between washington and jerusalem now in the west states that may have been in that case may be, but it is, it doesn't. a metal, i mean is tomorrow, there is another, a pregnant is that it will change very quickly. we saw, we came to pass between somebody, at least you'll remember and do a bean when it would show me a, in a wicked and, and the a, the, the american president, a boss to decide the it was offered and then came a ravine. and they were never better a relation, so it is very person that i is ready to very much. i think that that a b, b is, is making a huge mistake about the disease preferences and he's present it is there a preference is quite clear. what does his preferences seem to being to ignore

completely american structures about? thank you, matthew terry and age. especially in northern gaza. israel has gone on to create something of a living. hell for 2000000 people. has that shop to? well, a serious, you'll see skins shopping me about that done yell, but it is not that that too. i think that the main problem is not necessarily days very reluctance a to a to dissent 8 to the but his tenure is about the defect. the commodities taking all the so once you do the, the, the trucks on the guys is side doubt they can get in dallas selling gate. i mean, it is, it is given full 3 or 4 of the goals. and they're sending you a 2 dependents, daniel into the pool, but it's doing is there. so a, i think that the, you, i don't, i will do the necessarily blame a, him

a but the fact that the, how much doesn't they allow the, the trucks to get this the came but ask for, but the taking thinking of that is the trucks. yes. but you have usa agencies who have specifically blamed these radio authorities for holding up the shipments and not allowing basic goods to get through. so this was a book to put to the secretary of state's blank gun, and he actually lied to congress about it and said that they weren't doing that. but the usa, the other agencies were quite clear that these railways were at fault here. okay, so do you, i believe that the danielle had to listen to americans and changes it. i mean, and, and eh, st mole and boy k trucks that it is. that is,

i would say back to back originally, many is where you said that don't give them anything. the police thing is they still died of the style. but what the, what about the world crime? isn't it, it's close and this is like, never happened. it never happened today, but i'm pretty close. husband that come pretty close. there is no salvation that no, i don't envy them. and the daily and very, very po, situation and this is to and about a is not the is the division of, of how go and did they dictate has nothing. no and, and today it's val nutrition, certainly success. evaluate agencies have talked about mountain nutrition, man. yeah. man, man, man, and the question is something is a then pin is spelled ation your metal the cushioning in many situations. the, the problem is again, i mean the people on he's not getting it all saying the was thing. seeing the world, they is no initial, no a go meet them and then knowing the condition a little

a on the edge and they, they, they, they leaving that me div was so they'll be, was, was saying deep and the it and the hope, i mean, gladly i mean it then, you know, doesn't, except what date many of the over the things that he said it did, they say that they had the bottom line. it depends on then. and if they say something like, you should do a and you, if you don't to do a we, we leave your cooperation. he finds himself a doing what they want. in that case of television, it didn't have, yes, the better. there's been particular shock internationally. the reports of palestinian children in gaza shots in the head and chest on multiple occasions with high velocity bullets. the new york times printed testimony from 65 american doctors and health care professionals and gaza. clear implication that these was

what the results of collateral damage. the kids were targeted does as well as prime minister believe that killing are of children makes jewish children safer. when i it is out for me to believe that it was intentionally done. i. i don't know. reason for that house through the full head and the chest idea. one off to the other one on the other. i know that i'll me, it is a spokesman. what i can say is that the, the, the, the light by how it is broke and seeing what is happening them seeing what is happening, police way, at least seeing what is happening to police doing is it must and, and the 2 visions, elbow and some of them are right, some of them are wrong, it should and they, they, the situation on the, on the ground. and it so is that the feet that is ations is one of the doctors who came in with an aid organization. american doctor said all the drugs and dressings

that he tried to bring in with him and to buy optics. painkillers, bandages all, desperately short supply and gaza. all were taken away by these rarely soldiers before he was allowed into the territory that begged as belief. doesn't that again, again, i am not here as the spokesman of these rarely i have this done, but this is your country, this is your country. i see. but this is like country, so i, i told you on how it is broken. the whole situation is, you know, me use is all for, for me. i believe when i get up in the morning, this is the reality here. but if you ask me about specific things about it, about the did the doctors say, hey, um, is this the money and other things like that? i i cannot, honestly, you've always refused to abandon hope of a, a peace settlement when you, when you see the cottage of gaza. do you still cling to that hope

you'll, you'll mean they, they assess the nation of 1200. these well is a big goal by some no, no, no, i'm to go back to that too, but i'm talking about all the cottage. i don't think that we have speaking about at college, but what as well, it was all conducive to peace. in many, many cases, what happened to us in the last 2 years of the, the governments of the right was the people gave up on the 2 state solution gave up on a solution for the police thinking and problem said that they, it is okay. if we can manage that conflict or a do something like that with the conflict rather than solving it. and they do use the foundation, shows us that it is impossible that we have to solve the problem is i don't have to

tell you that the most important a piece of group a o o piece developments in, in a, in the model. or you story happened after the was tools like in the end of the 2nd was well, when the, you know, it was establishment the you about the stablished when they, they were bank, but it was a stop based on these all there is the uses. ali reside of the was tool in, in human history. so i believe that there is a chance that after such a will win people that this then the managing that the conflict is your child. these and impossible it knowing what people will then to go for the 4 piece. and i hope also the will really help us to push forward these. we're seeing some groups from the right in israel pushing to resettle garza. in fact,

yesterday the prime minister's liquid party invited people to a conference entitled preparing for settlement in gaza. a pretty clear direction of travel. wouldn't you say, despite all the denials that they were going to reset the la garza? what 1st of all, the good news here is that the yellow so it would never happen. i tended that it is noted and we'll see suddenly an event of the gold about it. this man meant us a very good. well, the week is something that you want to think. i mean, is this, i really hope that it is a bed joke. well, they said then the invitation that didn't leave much room for that will show up. it said liquid members broncho, it's ministers. members of the connected and together will cry out. gaza is ours forever. how many people think that the way it is right? in order to i mean we see the ports. i mean about the settling gaza is more

minority. you will have, you will have about 20 percent, i believe in, in it use way to do what am i supposed all these crazy ideas like building the, rebuilding the dump and about what do you need more than that? yeah. you as mean does, does it? i will government who are planning to rebuild the done pretty well. doesn't mean that it will happen. does this government do think really believe israel can be secure without a political solution for the palestinians? apparently to use your pancreas as your view, try to ensure that we've done jo is both training for years. is that that we have to make peace with the arab countries. why don't we succeed with it? then they can go well to the police doing is and say to them who you, who you'll see a coordination of each one. and they moderate our boundaries. and now we demand that you would do a, b,

and c in order to have peace with us. this is these dream. it would never happen, never happen. but this is, if you, i think that, that the idea of a encircling a funny thing is with a lot of like are up countries which have a piece which is way, is a, here's the dream, all plan or whatever. i want to talk in a minute, it's about your own ideas for a resolution of this interminable conflict. but let me go back to a prediction that you made in january when you said that nothing you all who would lose the support of these western allies and the is reading the public. the allies may have got fed up with them, but they're terrified of withdrawing the support all day. and what criticism that has been is made pretty soft. or u. d. e is it? he gets about 50 percent of the public opinion. you can see all the a, the probably could be impose that this is,

this is the ceiling. so he does not. he doesn't have them a job. he is, he has support is nobody's policies back on top of the sub x, isn't it? yeah, but that the numbers of how small and i mean in an environmental for the 120 doubt getting something like 22 seats. they do this is and, and, and they, it's a, the apologies all getting good 2018. so it is not that say he became very popular. hey, even this that resides mostly the success is a in dual. well what he is portraying is big success as. so you have a plan for a palestinian is riley confederation as a, as a stepping stone. i think you said to a 2 state solution um, before i ask you for the details, do you have any indication a tool that such a plan would be acceptable to any part of this is really government or indeed any

palestinian administration. one day before we signed the old before we exposed the hospital pro says that they wasn't majority of or for 80 percent against any books. we did piano and one day after that bill was the majority for the same happened with the the withdrawal form seat sy, night by you may not have him begging even the when he signed the agreement in the 79. i, i'm not worried about it. i believe the people who would like to have a piece and lee follow this little sheet. i asked the question, because last month's jordan's prime minister revived the 2 state solution himself and said he was mandated by 57 arab and muslim states to offer a guarantee of security to israel in return for an agreement on an independent palestinian state. the offer wasn't gone, so that was threatened straight in the band wasn't it, which is not

a helpful sign of coke, but then you always do to throw every m, we think things like that. but by the way, the full day a drop, a, a glance which was issued in the beginning of 2000 when he's supposed to do it or go, it gives a 2 state solution. although it is your peak. and i don't think that, but it's because it's going to accept the but still it was a 2 state solution and that then you also bought it. otherwise you rejected everything. what is the whole idea of the configuration? when we sign the agreement, the with 90000 settlers in the west bank i don't count is 0. is that then cause this is something is today is how familiar now, most of them will be next to easy way even if it, according to our plan. it is we, we link to a next to point 25 percent of the west bank,

but most of the said little sleeve bill. so for them it would not be a problem because for the 1st time they will become a citizen. so leave on the, on solving them country and they'll will be a land swap of the same amount of a, of a land and a and that they call it the quality of the, on the call it the open in back about 170000 settlers will find themselves in the future, but as being in state, even in the past, we used to say, okay, usually the splunk democracy. if we decide to have a new ball deal, we would be able to evaluate all of these way. you settled as a, from the homes is to day becoming the most important and will event of the current on the way of peace. because we know almost exactly it. what would be, well, it would be the ball do. what would it be with your username?

what would it be with the, with the date a, or the city andrews island, the refugees and you name me? yes. the band and cannot just put to you the fact. but so much of what you suggest seems to depend on trust. and that really isn't very between the 2 sides off to what's happened. you can't just sit down and manufacture it. can you the a palestinian survey from july showed that only 10 percent of these really jews and 6 percent of palestinians trust the other side. not nearly enough for a big ticket. confederation is it. did we? i is drugs. the jewel daniels old. the gibson's? did they trust that the jews move? yeah. but you want them to live right side by side in this confederation. is they leave today? yeah, i'm not, i'm not very happily. i'm not very happy to look at the westbank. look at the settler violence against palestinians in the west bank. that's the forward. eva jose anyways, my main thought the end of google studies opinions joined us. a military experience,

but additions and others, professors, you older to write the book in reach. the idea of leaving the side by side or remaining side by side is refill too acute, including the security aspects of l for such as a solution. it is, it is not simple, it is not easy, no solution is competing with it. no solution. anybody who comes to leave and says, i am spinning for the 2 state solution. i'm asking him o l. what are you going to do with the set list? if you say they will have to, to go back to is what i say, i don't know. a bryant is still a potential bradman is though it is way right or left. always going to do something like this. you must find a solution future that you're a former, your former justice minister. the settlements are really go under international law

. the what if you have an agreement, it will be a legal agreement and it, we all overall order the ability to a situation. i mean, nobody's saying that because it is against the intuition i know we cannot have lead swaps. for example, only thought of this that those is such a means they'll know that dia overland swaps. and the idea that most of the deceptive would remain, will the oh, was suggested by the, by the arab site. if you remember the day you, they came to day it to the full bill. it a many got ministration and, and the, the cloud that it is not doesn't have to be the $67.00 boulders, but it can be a lance one small which would take into account the number. the big number of both of these varies so on the west bank. if you asked me, no one is a should have lived in the west bank. no one setting then feel that be so they've

been a beat, but i have to deal with the reality. any does such a reality? the idea is that once we know the number of the police thing is who it was a result of these ladies, what would remain in palestine, spellman, and a residence and use the alias citizens. this same number of police thing is, well, like get to this is way it's a residence bill and, and the residence we'd be allowed to do that. you'll see a button. and what if, what if this plant gets turned down? what, what i mean, it's already been done. i mean by whom the prime minister netanyahu has already said is his role is to prevent the formation of a palestinian this. i don't see the load does copays. yeah. and what is the next one? says the same thing, there is no plan b is that you have no plan b,

its 2 state solution or not figures that it. i had many other plans that the, the 2 state solution is a result of the fact that the right the rejected or the other plans. so this is a plan which i believe is realistic is nothing. wilks, we really have to do is do any of that too early, and it is awful. but it is not that we all know that we are all funds and that if not, if there is no agreement, nothing really happened. no, even there is no agreement with the other side because the other side, they also say the 2020 then is what that is, where at least showed a withdrawal you and your rental. otherwise, we become it joyce, minority domain, i think it buddies, pinion of majority between the river and the sea. and this is the end of the zone. you split. i guess the band is good, so you thank you very much indeed for your time. thanks for being on complex on.

thank you. thank you. the

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