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stem to talk about that a more. thank you for joining me. i wanted to ask you by the elections, you know, climate change has not been on the attend the much uh, in the us. and i was wondering what you thought about the agenda of the election exam. yeah. you know, i'm pregnant. i can talk these things. i, i want campbell harris to go like, did democrats to get elected? we already know what donald trump thinks about climate change and i have not a part i filled out. that is he wins, he'll take us out of paris again. that's just where he is. uh that would be a new honestly problem to alex and disruptive. so i think that the camera harris has a very good team of advisors helping her in her campaign. i'd be delighted to hear more talking about climate change,

but it doesn't like if they do what they do in order to be able to get enough votes, that's what matters. and then i have no doubt that she would be excellent. i think she will follow in the steps of president biden, and before him, president obama, and i think she totally believes in the importance of climate change, and i think should be your be a leader. that's what i care about. not. not who says what in this, in this election, but i mean, in terms of, i mean, you said president trump already took the us out all the parts agreement when he was in power last time. i mean, whether you impacts of that, that would give you concern if it happens again. well, i mean, for starters you, you're not going to get any new domestic policy. i mean, the, the, the, there's an international side of this and there's a domestic site. so the most important part of it is the domestic side. and, uh, you know, and the i r a is having a huge impact, right?

i mean, so i, i think he may try to undo some of that. it's not going to be able to undo a lot of it, but. busy if you're tamela harris comes in, they will, they will be new policy measures taken to for greater development of, of clean energy purchasing of clean energy, you know, uh uh, rebates for, for people who buy electric vehicles or whatever. what i mean, there's all sorts of different policies and, and i, i, campbell harris administration certainly gonna, i don't know which ones they're gonna do, but they're gonna, they're gonna act enough in that way. quote, trump will try to support a more fossil fuel. so try to me just doesn't believe in it, so that so that's a big, big problem in terms of the international side look or when you pulled out last time. i was pretty convinced that other countries would not fall in other countries are, are, are bought in enough to paris that they would,

they would continue and they did. so that was obviously good. but it's different if you have us as a real leader and the international side. it's different if you're the president of china and every time the us president brock obama talks to you. he's raising climate change and uh, and, and down. but you know, levels below the president, people are engaging on uh, on climate change and then china knows that. and they know they're going to have to respond. and donald trump's president, the number of times when donald trump would have raised climate change with presentation, think 0 or does that affect china's actions? i guess is it, does that mean like, i don't know for sure, but i think, you know, i think it's, it's undermining and not just with respect to china with respect to other countries as well. with regards to the comp $29.00 coming up this year. i mean, the us is one of the biggest one does when it comes to climate finance and

it's, you know, i mean, we're going to have the results of the us selection young days before those negotiations take place. right. i mean, what impacts do you expect result lens have them in negotiations? a very positive. this is if uh, is harris wins and a big release i think, covers all over the world care about climate change and negotiators all over the world and ministers and so forth. i think are holding their breath a little bit nervous because a very election is going to be very close. and so if she wins a big sigh of relief and a now or a, so you your relief and now you can talk about what, what can we do next? and finally, i kind of finance is, is the biggest, the single biggest issue for back and there's the

issue on the table. is that under paris? a $100000000000.00 a year by 2020. that was originally thomas probably that was supposed to continue to 2025, and then a new number come up and a new number that's not lower than a 100. and maybe with some other countries participating trends, they don't. so what that, what that number is going to be is a big issue. but there's also, i mean, we don't know how this all gonna work out in my view. there's, uh, there's kind of 2 elements of finance that need to be taken into account. one is that, that number within the u and octopus, your system needs that sort of the parents or james, that number needs to be put forward. a lot of countries want that to be a trillion or numbers like that, which i completely unrealistic in that context. there are other efforts that have

been going on with respect to finance the finance including the last i think the last 3 g twenty's. and honestly, the financial expertise does not reside in the u. enough. triple c does not reside miss harris, where she resides in of treasury's, in finance and industries, and the kinds of government ministries that are engaged in precisely and in places like the g 20 is going to be tremendously important to get that right. because countries legitimately incorrectly the field and is camilla harris. when can we see perhaps the us taking some more leadership on that? i hope that the answers. yes, i can't speak for the you know, there, there isn't, doesn't ministration yet. and i would hope that a focus on how these big multilateral development, thanks and others need to be reformed in order to make this possible use. i hope

that that's an issue that, that people, you know, they knew harris administration would focus on. i think it's important, but i'm not in the ministration and i'm, i'm a former you were involved in the negotiations for the purchase agreement. i mean, what was the move like off the, the agreement was initially signed of the move was very elated. this was a process that really started in earnest in 2009 uh, and president obama came in in that year in january. and i was one of the people that came with them. so i was especially young boy of during his years and, and it was uh, it was a hard and uh and difficult up and down road. uh. and by the time the parents screaming got done. i think it was think it actually exceeded most people's,

i mean terms and negotiate or some countries it was, it exceeded most people's best estimate of what might happen. it's now almost 10 years on what do you think about the action that has been taken since the power screen? well, i think it's mix. i think i think that that, that there's been a lot of a lot of good. um, i think that the, that you can't deal with this problem without the, the international side. it's is obviously other aspects of the agreement, new technology and the domestic policy. lots of other things which you really need an international agreement because you've got a 190 something. countries and countries are not going to act as long as they know that their competitors and their partners and other policies are also going to exit to the international side of it. really, really important. and i think if you, if you sort of step back in and, and look at where we are right now,

we are facing more intense uh, sort of harder and faster impacts from climate change even than people imagine. we are also in a world where there is tackling the tigris technology side, and some of that is driven by, it was driven by paris and we knew the signal, the terrace to the whole world to people. but also the companies in board rooms all over the world was the leaders of the world is serious about this. now they're going to act on this. and that helped us for all sorts of innovative action vendors. and companies springing up to try to take advantage of that. so that's been really, really good. but those are still big obstacles and, and so you've got to use different factors going on. impacts are worse, the technology and progress, the clean energy progress is tackler,

but they're still big obstacles. and the biggest of fossil fuel industry. i mean, considering the, the extreme weather effects that we're seeing as a result of climate change. so, you know, we've got like heavy flooding and central in central europe at the moment we put buyers and for sale. i mean, that hasn't been enough urgency. i mean, you mentioned the fossil fuel industry, particularly within the fossil fuel industry to be compromised and to get on a possible 1.5 degree. well, so you know, there's been, i think that there has been a greater and greater sense of urgency in general. and certainly there's been greater and greater sort of emphasis and greater and greater action coming from the clean energy side of things with respect to, to most fossil fuel companies. no, they, they, they, they, they are not, they're not acting in a way that is,

is consistent with, with where we need to go. i mean, we're not going to get rid of fossil fuels overnight. but like, let's remember that the, the, the goal that the countries around the world has the sort to big goals come mid century goals. and countries have agreed to want us to try to keep the temperature increase up to 1.5 degrees centigrade or as close to that as possible. and to have something like net 0 emissions in mid century around 2050. and i think you will find various fossil fuel companies trying to say the right thing to make people care about climate change. think that they're listening, you know, some people and those industries are for sure. but really listen to the people in that industry that are, that are in charge. they want to be doing what they're doing now 30 years from now

and so that uh so yeah. do they have enough understanding of the most of them? no. i mean, if you look at the policies then being taken by countries like for us, for example, to try to, to compromise and limit carbon dioxide emissions. do you feel that the action is a no? well, i think that i think that that under president obama, with the us has done, has been really very, very good. and the so called i r a is the biggest piece of legislation, but that's not the only one and from president fighting, right. that was present but yeah, and uh, mean it took a long time to get that bill that law passed the raisers in margins very, you know, it was tough but, and there's, there's an infrastructure bill and there's

a bill on chips that also has some impact on climate ira is the biggest of all and, and that's been, you know, very, very effective. that's been, that has been very, very good us took out a target for 2030 back. when i, when i was elected, which was aimed at cutting emissions in half by 2030, i don't think we're going to quite get there, but we're getting a lot of 5 of them before. and there's a new round of a target. countries have to take coming up next year. i think the country that is the most important right now with respect to targets and amounts of admission and not the amount of mission is obviously the china, china, a cows for about 30 percent of the world's greenhouse gases, which is more than all developed countries, put together, well,

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