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the all of the roman horn assigned, perhaps of the constraints of city life. even in $79.00 id is more on w. jared, great in berlin, thank you for watching. the via humming does not get drunk. why do gravitational waves squeeze all bodies? how much do we need to put a stop comp claim for help find beyond this get smaller on dw science, and i'll take 10 of us selections just around the corner. climate change is not on the agenda. it's one of the major concerns the international community. when looking of what is happening here in the us,
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i'm here with full make us special envoy for climate change touchstone to talk about that a more. thank you for joining me. i wanted to ask you by the elections, you know, climate change has not been on the agenda much in the us. and i was wondering what you thought about the agenda of the election exam. yeah. you know, i'm pregnant. i can talk these things. i want campbell, here's to get elected democrats to get elected. we already know what donald trump thinks about climate change, and i have not a part of that is he wins, he'll take us out. harris again. that's just where he is. uh that would be a new honestly problem, alex and disruptive. so i think that the camera harris has a very good team of, of advisors helping her in her campaign. i'd be delighted to hear more talking about climate change,
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but it doesn't like if they do what they do in order to be able to get enough votes, that's what matters. and then i have no doubt that she would be excellent. i think she will follow in the steps of president biden, and before him, president obama. and i think she totally believes in the importance of climate change. and i think should be a real leader. that's what i care about not. not who says what in this miss election, but i mean, in terms of, i mean, you said president trump already took the us out all the parts agreement when he was in power last time. i mean whether you impacts of that, that would give you concern. if it happens again, well, i mean, for starters you, you're not going to get any new domestic policy. i mean, the, the, the, there's an international side of this and there's a domestic site. so the most important part of it is the domestic side. and uh, you know, and the i r a is having a huge impact, right?
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i mean, so i, i think he may try to undo some of that. it's not going to be able to undo a lot of it. but, but if you're tamela harris comes in, they will, they will be new policy measures taken to for greater development of, of clean energy purchasing of clean energy, you know, uh rebates for, for people who buy electric vehicles or whatever. i mean, there's all sorts of different policies and, and i, i, campbell harris administration certainly gonna, i don't know which ones they're gonna do, but they're gonna, they're gonna act in that, in that way quote, trump will try to support more fossil fuel. so try to me just doesn't believe in it, so that so that's a big, big problem in terms of the international side. look, when you pull out last time, i was pretty convinced that other countries would not fall in other countries are, are bought in enough to paris that they would,
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they would continue and they did. so that was obviously good. but it's different if you have us as a real leader and the international side is different. if you're the president of china and every time the us president obama talks to you, he's raising climate change and uh, and, and down. but you know, it levels below the president, people are engaging on, i'm trying to change and then china knows that. and they know they're going to have to respond. and donald trump's president, the number of times when donald trump would have raised climate change with presentation, think 0 or does that affect china's actions? i guess is it, does that mean? like, i don't know for sure, but i think, you know, i think it's, it's, it's undermining and not just with respect to china with respect to other countries as well. with regards to the top $29.00 coming up this year. i mean, the us is one of the biggest one does when it comes to climate finance and
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it's, you know, i mean, we're going to have the results of the us selection young days before those negotiations take place. right. i mean, what impacts do you expect result lens have them in negotiations? a very positive. this is if uh, is harris wins and a big release. the thing covers all over the world care about climate change and negotiators all over the world and ministers and so forth. i think are holding their breath a little bit nervous because a very likes is going to be very close. and so if she wins a big sigh of relief and a now or a, so you your relief and now you can talk about what, what can we do next? and pioneer kind of the finance is, is the biggest, the single biggest issue for back. uh, and there's the issue on the table. is that under paris?
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a $100000000000.00 a year by 2020 that was originally was supposed to continue to 2025, and then a new number come up and a new number that's not lower than a 100. and maybe with some other countries participate in terms of done. so what that, what that number is going to be is a big issue. but there's also, i mean, we don't know how this are going to work out in my view. there's uh, there's kind of 2 elements of finance that need to be taken into account. one is that that number within the u and expos, your system needs. and that sort of the parents are james. that number needs to be put forward. a lot of countries want that to be a trillion or numbers like that, which are completely unrealistic in that context. there are other efforts that have
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been going on with respect to finance the finance including the last, i think the last 3 g twenty's. and honestly, the financial expertise does not reside in the u. n. f. triple c does not reside in the paris for. she resides in treasuries and finance ministries and the kinds of a government ministries that are engaged in precisely and in places like the g. 20 is going to be tremendously important to get that right because countries legitimately incorrectly the field and it's carmella highest. when can we see perhaps the us taking some more leadership on that? i hope that the answers. yes, i can't speak for the know there. there isn't, doesn't ministration yet. and i would hope that a focus on how these big multilateral development, thanks and others need to be reformed in order to make this possible use. i hope
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that that's an issue that, that people, you know, they knew harris administration would focus on. i think it's important, but i'm not to be ministration. and i'm, i'm a former that you were involved in the negotiations for the purchase agreement. i mean, what was the move like off the the agreement was initially signed? um, the move was very elated. um, this was a process that really started in earnest uh, in 2009. uh and president obama came in in that year in january, and i was one of the people that came with them. so i was especially young boy of during his years and, and it was uh, it was a hard and uh and difficult up and down road. uh. and by the time the parents screaming got done. i think it was think it actually exceeded most people's,
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i mean, terms of negotiate or some countries. it was, it exceeded most people's best estimate of what might happen is now almost 10 years on. what do you think about the action that has been taken since the power screen? well, i think gets mixed. i think i think that that, that there's been a lot of a lot of good. um, i think that the you can't deal with this problem without the, the international side. it's is obviously other aspects of the agreement, new technology and the domestic policy. the lots of other things that you really need an international agreement because you've got a 190 something. countries and countries are not going to act as long as they know that their competitors and their partners and other countries are also going to exit to the international side of it. really, really important. and i think if you, if you sort of step back in and, and look at where we are right now,
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we are facing more intense uh, sort of harder and faster impacts from climate change even than people imagine. we are also in a world where there is attacking the progress technology side and some of that is driven by, it was driven by parents and we knew the signal, the terrace to the whole world to people. but also the companies in board rooms all over the world was the leaders of the world is serious about this. now they're going to act on this. and that helped to spur of all sorts of innovative action vendors. and companies springing up to try to take advantage of that. so that's been really, really good. but there is are still big obstacles and, and so you've got these different factors going on. impacts are worse, the technology and progress, the clean energy progress is tackler,
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but they're still big obstacles. and the biggest of them is the cost of fluency. i mean, considering the, the extreme weather effects that we're seeing as a result of climate change. so, you know, we've got like heavy flooding and central in central europe at the moment we put fires and for sale. i mean, that hasn't been enough urgency. i mean, you mentioned the fossil fuel industry, particularly within the fossil fuel industry to be compromised and to get on a path with a $1.00 degree. well, so you know, there's been, i think that there has been a greater and greater sense of urgency in general. and certainly there's been greater and greater sort of emphasis and greater and greater action coming from the clean energy side of things with respect to, to most fossil fuel companies. no, they, they, they, they, they are not, they're not acting in a way that is,
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is consistent with, with where we need to go. i mean, we're not going to get rid of possible fuels overnight. but like, let's remember that the, that the goal that the countries around the world has the sort 2 big goals and mid century goals and countries have agreed to want us to try to keep the temperature increase to 1.5 degrees centigrade or as close to that as possible. uh and to have something like net 0 emissions in mid century around 2050. and i think you will find various fossil fuel companies trying to say the right thing to make people care about climate change. think that they're listening to some people and those industries are for sure, but really listen to the people in that industry that are, that are in charge. they want to be doing what they're doing now 30 years from now
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. and so that uh so yeah. do they have enough understanding of the most of them? no. i mean if you look at the policies been being taken by countries like for us, for example, to try to, to compromise and limit carbon dioxide emission. uh, do you feel that the action is a no? well, i think that i think that the under president obama with the u. s. has done, has been really very, very good. uh and the so all i raise the biggest piece of legislation, but that's not the only one and from president vice president biden. yeah. and i mean, it took a long time to get that bill. that law passed the razor thin margin. it's very, you know, it was tough but, and there's, there's an infrastructure bill and there's
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a bill on chips that also has some impact on climate iris, the biggest of all. and, and that's been, you know, very, very effective. and that's been, that has been very, very good. the us took on a target for 2030 back when i, when i was elected, which was aimed at cutting emissions in half by 2030. i don't think we're going to quite get there, but we're getting a lot of 5 of them before and there's a new round of a target. countries have to take coming up next year. i think the country that is the most important right now with respect to targets and amounts of admission and not the amount of mission is obviously the china, china, a cows for about 30 percent of the world's greenhouse gases, which is more than all developed countries, put together, well,
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thank you very much for your time. it was a pleasure to talk to you and thank you. thanks. the senior american diplomats fly back into the middle east promising to stand by 11. and even if the ally, israel continues massive strikes on a route and other parts of the country, it doesn't look like a formula for peace. but my guess today doesn't give up easily on that prospect is you'll see valence former justice, minnesota and peace negotiations in israel. i believe that there is a chance that up those that to will when people that this then the managing that they the conflict is your child of these and impossible. knowing more people will tend to go for the appropriate for how does he explain the humanitarian catastrophe? is riley has presided over.

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