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mazda of russia invited ukraine's un secretary general was that to address members of the breaks group off emerging economies is audience and because it rushes vladimir putin and china is huge in paying these message the need for peace in gaza . investment on, on a ukraine adjuster pace, in line with the un charter international law and general assembly resolutions. i'm feel gail in berlin and this is the day the we must finish and investigate the machine that we need. we need to be seen whether or not we need to be seen him today takes the community of nations working as one global family with it as global trust. because it all comes to me, it doesn't exist the damage, the secretary general. you say we should all live is one big family. well,
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that's exactly how we do live. unfortunately, families often quarrelled like faces scandals and property disputes. and sometimes they find taken also on the day french president, the manual macro criticizes the warning part is 11 on as donors pledge a 1000000000 dollars in assistance, a leg given to assist the opening, the ball must end as soon as possible. we must be a ceasefire. 11 on these do more damage, more victims, most strikes. we'll need to put an end to terrorism. no, and sir, of the security of all worlds of the day. you and secretary general, antonio gutierrez hasn't been in russia for 2 years, but he went this week to tell versus president post and the world needs piece in ukraine. and not just any pace, but one based on respect for being territorial integrity of the country. russia is
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kind of neat, inviting, and attempting to cough up. finding food in the criminal, keith condemned the secretary general from going, and the stone is following. mister accused him of hunting, the russian president, a propaganda victory is to good terrorist as easy strips of the summit of breaks nations as an opportunity to engage with countries representing around half the world's population. we need to be seen him crane adjust the sea line and have you been shot at the international law and general assembly resolutions, we need to be seems to done with all 5 if you silencing that. again, sounds good. anything to assess what sustainable piece those with the messages i have delivered to the high level segments as the general assembly in september in new york. unfortunately, they the main valleys. yes and last. everywhere we must have pulled the values of even shot at this little of law. and the principles of subs that i need to get
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a started integrity and political independence of all states. mary ellen o'connell as professor of law and professor of international peace studies at the university of notre dame and the united states to join us from new york city. welcome to the w professor. do you think those criticisms are the secretary general's of russia visit a justified? i don't understand why they're being made. there was the hope of so many countries around the world, especially you crane 1st and foremost, but it's near neighbors. the politics that russia would be biased related that once it had invaded and violated the un charter, the rest of the world would really come to cranes assistance and make it impossible for russia to continue with the war. but honestly, and this is really the major reason why gutierrez has gone to this summit. rush has not isolated. it's able to continue to fight the war,
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in part because it's getting vast sums of money from both china and india. and with that kind of support with that kind of trade and then the war continues. it is at a stalemate. so the secretary general, i think, rightly and not just to break the stalemate in ukraine, but to try to bring peace in the middle east. and in that terrible conflict in sudan, let's not forget that 2 of the countries that are providing the weapons to the are assessed. the opponents of the regular student, nice armed forces, are russia and united or of everest. and there at the summit in cuz on and then of course it's just urgent that piece a ceasefire. happen in the least. and the secretary general is bringing his argument about that conflict to. he's got this very heavy right. and to try to break these kind of okay, so, so that's a 2 hands vladimir fruits and something of a pay off to wire up so that he can deliver his message
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not to just to russia, but also to what you might call babies leading members of the global south that's, that's worth it. ringback i, i'm not sure i would call it a clue. i think he's doing basic diplomacy. he's trying to convince countries that are fueling and unlawful war and aggressive war. actually, lots of countries, both in sudan, illegally interfering in a civil war and in ukraine, providing weapons, materials, finances, buying commodities full of trying to directly talk to those individuals, those individual countries and get them to comply with the un charter. let's also not forget that i think there's a secondary agenda here in addition to the straightforward basic diplomacy. getting people understanding how they're violating international along what they're doing. the world is looking at
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a major split between the bricks countries and the us led rule space to international. ready order, it's the job of the secretary general to get countries on one page, the international law page to be unified and working cooperation as a un. okay, i'm not thinking that there are 2 groups. so we asked to speak to everyone, but he also spoke in favor of reforms. so the security council and so the international financial audit, which will the pay of popular sentiment with that particular audience. but does anybody really expect a change to happen? i am very impressed that the secretary general has raised these issues just such a high level. i have been working and writing for a long time now. and why does the united states, why does the united kingdom and really, why is germany supporting such serious violations of international law on the west side? this has been criticized time and again,
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now we've got these major violations, this invasion of ukraine by russia. and what looks like a split or it's time to really look at the charter and say, what should the security council be doing? promoting piece, and not trying to whitewash on well, well uses of military force around the world. i think the secretary general is doing something very brave, whether he's got, well, there's going to have success. this discussion needs to happen. and it, me, in the west needs to just, instead of just criticizing gutierrez, understand their own role and why the world is looking. forgive me for interrupting because it is, but we, especially when you're talking about breaks breaks, it's all very complicated, isn't it? and it's not just the west of it. it's china and russia. positive breaks, who can, who will happily sit by and allow the send some sentiments to be expressed wild knowing, but they will not allow that power on the security council as permanent members to
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be diluted by anyone. i actually do not think we need to have structural changes to, to the security council. it has worked. it was never a great idea, but it was the most politically acceptable idea of when franklin roosevelt created the security council with the veto power for 5 countries. it has worked until when, until countries stopped looking at international law as the basis for what they were doing. and honestly, since the end of the cold war, the united states has exercised the veto more than any other countries. it has a now we've got more and more there we've, we've, we've seen a loss of patients with the us trying to lead a privileged group of countries, the rules based international at the expense of others. we need to be on the same page. every country rush out the us, china, should all be committed to international law. that's what i'd like to see the
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secretary general talking about not doing something that these countries will be co trying to expand the security council's status. one of the edited by talking again about brake switch totally has 9 then those are we can read them off. brazil, russia, india, china, south africa, ethiopia, egypt, the united arab emirates. and the rob, which is a complicated grid of competing interest. united by this desire to overtone western dominance, wasting in the wings, is saudi arabia, which has been invited to join, but hasn't made up his mind yet. i'm just to go, sir, why it hasn't joined breaks yet. i'm no specialist on the politics of saudi arabia. i am a specialist on international law and even the politics of international law. what is happening now, and i hope the side is resist. i hope no more countries joined. one of these blocks for another is looking a lot, isn't it? like the old cold war?
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and that's what we should be avoiding. what the end of the cold war was supposed to spell out was international unity cooperation. on the basis of the quality of states under international law with the you one leading and moving us towards solving our mass of problems starting with climate change. instead we're, we're, we're wasting the world's resources in this great suffering of arm conflict. that's got it. and so i hope saudi arabia reduce and is part of the voice for international law. i know it's a tall order, but that's what i'd like to see. i guess i wish the joiners professor professor at mary ellen o'connell from the university of know today well, despite the secretary general's goal for a series father has been, you know, that's up in the fighting between israel and has been in level and i've been these ministry says 3 bit strips were killed in these right asked right,
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because they were evacuating wounded civilians. and the capital by roots has again come under attack. firefighters tackled the remains of a large file. the following is really missile strikes on a route southern neighborhoods. yellow 6 buildings including a residential complex will flattened and delay lockheed district according to lebanon's official national use agency. the attacks took place just hours before the start of a conference in paris to drum up more international aid for 11 and of the president. emanuel maxwell hosted ministers and officials for more than 70 countries who to get the pledged over a $1000000000.00 worth of humanitarian aid and ministry support for lebanon's diploma. and all 7 you joint calls for a ceasefire. soldiers, cell city, time for the gift to assist you open the ball must end as soon as possible. we must
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be a ceasefire and 11 on these do more damage, more victims, most strikes will need to put an end to terrorism. no, and sir, of the security of all sorts. despite the pledges by international leaders, they reach the residents. just want the fighting to stop on the way. we don't need frances money or money from any other country. we just want them to end the war watts, the benefits if we rebuild, but these various come back to destroy things again. but there are, there are people on the streets. no one cares about them and some of them of nothing. i just saw someone sleeping on the streets, no impulse, and even the low for braz. where's the said? where does it go? i don't understand. meanwhile, the rule continues. smoke claims was seen rising from lebanon, southern border, as israel continues its fight against militant groups. hezbollah
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that's picked through some of these points with natasha hall sees i'm released on list at the center for strategic and international studies in washington dc. welcome to the w. could we start with the point made rather eloquently by the lady at the end of that play? one is the point of pledging and spending all those millions, billions of dollars in lab, and on without security. i think it's a great question and it's something that a lot of people are asking themselves, not just in lebanon, not just in syria, but in garza and other parts of the middle east. unfortunately, at this point we still don't have a ceasefire. we have over a 1000000 people displaced in lebanon, and really powerful air strikes on a daily basis in, in, around the capital b route. so, i think, shoot human terry and aid could be a welcome relief. but i should know that about $200000000.00 up of that money that was raised in paris was also to build up the lebanese armed forces and train an
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additional $6000.00 troops. so, so there was a military and a humanitarian component, but again, it, it sort of remains to be seen how this is, is really going to help matters if, if the war continues them. the united states applied to 300000000 at today's conference and washington on parish. they both been trying to find a solution to the level in crisis from the start. does that solution necessarily look the same from both capitals? i would say that there's been a distance thing of the cron from israel, but also from the united states of france has been much more hard line on needing a ceasefire. at this recent conference, he directed his statement to nothing. yahoo saying that we don't defend civilization by selling barbarism ourselves with which is quite
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a strongly worded statement. you also see that uh that france has much stronger historical and cultural ties to lebanon and, and likely wants to play more of a constructive role. while many, i think in the region and maybe throughout the world, see the united states is playing more of a destructive role. you've written that if it's right, is not amenable to paste. so united states will need to use it to leverage to force a truce. what leverage are we talking about and why hasn't the rest of you said yes . well, the, the vast majority of, of weapons that israel is using comes from the united states. as real is, is one of the largest, the largest benefactor of, of usa to in the world. so there's, there's quite a bit of leverage in addition to diplomatic leverage, the united states has provided quite a bit of diplomatic cover to is reality at the un security council as well over
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many, many decades. so there's a lot of leverage there. i mean, the reason that it is likely, or the vitamin ministration in particular is likely not using it is uh, is for domestics reasons. and that that's a bit scary because essentially, domestic politics are dictating our foreign policy in this case. and, and i think that's quite dangerous for the united states. and i would say at this current moment in time while we're just less than 2 weeks away from us selection, i think it's also going to be very challenging for a lame duck president to push anything on on bb netanyahu in in israel. so the notion of the stone a conference is a visit, a puzzling one, because even if that is pace, the question must be asked. what sort of elaborate on all you go to try and rebuild with all these billions of dollars because it was a failing state even before all the shooting started. and it
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was receiving quite a bit of humanitarian aid and development aid prior to this crisis because of the syrian refugee crisis and because of its own economic foibles. but i think the, the issue remains for many, many countries around the world where we are essentially dealing with one conflict after another, with unconditional humanitarian aid, while the violence continues. and so that's why we're seeing conflicts all over the world last as long as 30 years now. because rather than really look to conflict resolution, we're really, really relying on the crutch of, of humanitarian aid, frankly, to manage these crises. and that's becoming overwhelming. i think for the humanitarian sector and also for international peace and security more generally. okay. awesome . nice thing analysis. thank you so much for that. and the tasha whole from the center for strategic and international studies. thank
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the united states. so that's a new president in just under 2 weeks and the 2 candidates are on a bruising schedule. the campaign events focusing on the key swing states and vast selection day approaches, the tone of the page is becoming increasingly strident. let me ask you tonight. do you think don't trump, is a fascist? yes i do. yes i do. and i, and i also believe that the people who know him best on this subject should be trusted. she's not a smart person, she has a low i q individual. she is. she is, she's a low i q person the falls indicate this election will be one of the closest in us history, navy, kansas. it has a significant late in the national vote. and pulse of those key swing states that are all some clothes, most recent to wall street journal poll house. how does winning for opportunity battleground states to trumps 3?
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the washington post has the same. while the, the website, real clear politics has trump leaning on 7. well that's on pick some of that with justin higgins, he's a communications consultant who's worked for democrats on for republicans. welcome to the w just and so all the polls agree this race is going to be tight. they seem to interpret the data differently. you know, how do we end up with such a spread? yeah, so it's a great question. uh, so the washington post and wall street journal polls are singular pools that are a snapshot in time. so that is just one single pole by each outlet. where is the real clear politics is an aggregation of multiple poles. and i think it's very important to know the aggregation of poles can be very, very useful due to the different methodologies each poll uses. and therefore, it can help control for differences in sampling size. differences in the way that
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voters are sampled. is it through online? is it through a landline cellphone? a one criticism, specifically a real clear and which has trump when in all of those 7 states is they do a poor job of weight gain the individual poles that they add up to determine each state's results. so in short, they are republican heavy and they treat these republican leaning poles with more weight than they should. and that's how you get trunk. we all 7 swing states and so kind of that methodology. besides to be bias, do you see polls the old publications are playing to the preferences on the rate is or is that just a valid method which happens to bring these results? i was real clear. politics has a lot of criticism across the board for being rather biased because they're given polls that may be on through an, a through s f scale, reading their cd and asked,
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and they are waiting them the same as a slip. so that is clear, biased, but i think it's very important that we clarify that there are institutions like the new york times wall street journal, even fox news that are very credible and take pride in their work and their only go up their work is to create accurate polls, so it's kind of like getting your news. you need to pick the sources that are predicated on accuracy and typically are appraised and upheld throughout democrat and republican politics. and then you're going to get the most accurate quote possible. so how close do you think it is? i think it's, uh, quite a flip. i think it's extremely close. uh, no matter the reputable pool that you look at, the swing states are either tied or within a point or 2. and based on the margin of error calling, we are well within that margin of error. so i honestly do not think and election
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can be closer if we look at 2020. it was extremely close. same with 2016 in pennsylvania, only 80000 votes in 2020, determined that state. and quite frankly, vp harris is going to need to win that state to have any chance of pulling off the selection. so it is very, very bus. i'm just picking up. i'm one of your twigs you said serious alarm bells a sounding for the irish campaign. nevada is slipping away due to started got gene to starting kewpie early voting numbers. north carolina. it looks to become based on a and b. c before, from senior highways campaign stuff, which you get in trouble. and chemistry, developed in pennsylvania, always a tosser. so just in higgins, this looks like you calling it for trump? no, no, no. i'm not calling you from just like tools or a snapshot in time. tweet like that is talking about the state of the race,
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2 weeks out, rod democrats are in trouble. right. and they need to work hard if they want to be bax. this candidate that john kelly is former chief of staff. now the b. p of united states call is a fascist. so i think it's very important that we all take a moment and realize how close this election is, how close american democracy is to potentially failing to a corrupt want to be dictator. and democrats needs take the seriously give money, get out the phone volunteer, and go all in and not have this false sense of security thinking that america is different than every country in the world. we would never re elect somebody like that. because right now the polling shows that we may not be that different. all we in an era, not just this election, but all we, the last while you're getting, you gave us 3 elections at all we in, in the last couple of decades. and we slipped into an era where us selections are
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always going to be so close. what, what has happened as i think we have. and when i was working in congress as a policy adviser for a tea party member of congress, i back in 2014. it was almost the start of this era. what has happened is a combination of social media, the 24 hour news cycles, along with a little rhetoric becoming so intense, and so focused on the personal identity of the other candidates. the we have created a situation where a lot of voters are taking things personally or putting politics into their own personal identity. and when you've had that happen, you have folks pick up and then do everything. they can create contextural arguments justified of themselves. why their team is better than the other team, and inherently folks stop listening when their personal identity is on the line. so
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that is a long way of saying we are in an uber polarized era where at least for the foreseeable future, we will have elections that are on the razor's edge. and it'll take, you know, in october surprise, or better reading of the data and better mobilization efforts for your base voters to win that election. so i think you are entering a status quote here, fast. i think thank you for that communications consultant of justin higgins. a thank you very much and that was the day you can follow the team onset dw news on social media on d, w dot com or of course on the 13th w. that's the day, a good thing the
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