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a mess, things up risking brain damage. so let's stop this self sabotage. humans and multitasking watch. now on youtube, v. w documentary, the business date of the news i forgot coming up from the program. wagner, in the central african republic, is it most schools model for africa? once a private and military company, now it is russia's long in c and the russian house and the compet telephone game is just the cultural center. it's head, demetrius city says yes, and rejects criticism. bouldin's got worse. not better. after wagner came, oh, this is just the mechanism to uh to make russian vehicle for america. it's josh has another 2nd of the
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i. i'm eddie mike of junior and you are welcome to the program wagner in the central african republic, as it must close the model for africa. the wagner group is a russian military company with significant operations on the continent, a key to the process following policy. it was founded in 2014 by russian business mind you have gave me precaution. after his death, wagner in africa came under the direct control of russia's ministry of defense and changed his name to the africa. cool. it provides security. unbelief tree supports but also stands accused of propagating anti western, this information campaigns, the groups many g activities are raised concerns about human rights abuses and destabilize ation in the region. rationalize also extending itself into c, r, and runs that cultural center called russian house. in bounty,
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before taxes it go to a child so many cents an exclusive interview with the head of the center mall from the lead time expressed. his report from bunky as the new blue volume spun or fonts. the gym won't be the 19 year old. joseph policies, advanced levels, certificate uncertainty, pick studies like many students in this modern country, he spellings, we weren't able to pay for him to attend the university of things. so he decided to go, he's one way, is that event? as a child, i dreamed of being a polyglot, so it motivated me to learn russian. i'm always human real. is learning the language in distortion quarter i st or see to it or the heart of the copy to bang g d, p c, d is the head of the russian house. he sees the demand for language classes and cultural activities shows it is doing one thing,
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bringing russia and the central african republic closer together. right now they are more focused on the children place and the children's rights very much representing the russian injustice and russian schools for local students. that can go also for studies in russia. and right now, as a russian for the city of africa is developed and rep in the russia is giving much more quote us for african students to study in, in the restaurant. not who's going to use a gear rooster alpha. now me is one of the teachers in distortion language center. how far the east central african. i'm her mother, i, russian. all of them leave in bank. the question was bone. she has a diploma in accounting and management from a college here in thank he she never went to a full mouth to chuck cleaning process. but how mother taught how russian,
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why does she was growing up? and she decided to go same to what a central africans let alone go to the russian language as an asset. and also has very significant advantages for the central african population in terms of vocabulary and language language teaching russian language and the central african republic. as an added value from russian, critics say multiple states teach, the russian language here, and this nonprofit comfortable me so much things that was already is fund the language piece. do you agree? so now this has no colonial or political connotations to the central african republic as a country like any other sewed. welcome to the russian language as well. no longer . and it is longed for by the population you mind will each one of the $500.00 students learning the language he, he's clear why? because he wants to move towards. yeah. restaurants alone, i've chosen the russian language to have the opportunity to apply for
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a scholarship to do my higher education and medical studies in russia. because at the moment there's a serious health problem in my country. we don't have enough doctors. me, i'd like to help my country by studying and russia to facilitate development, is that you don't want people fussing to. so you caught a glimpse of him in that reports dimitris city. a key play environments offer corporations since he has long been involved in wagner. group activities in c out. fast translating media and communications. and now of the russian house in bunky, in december of 2020, to see if he was seriously injured in a mill bump. i talk to later i retired to bounty and is that langston of russia's operations in africa. he also has a controlling interest in a mining company that bag now has been sanctioned by the e. u. in the us for human rights abuses and city is also on that international functions list. so on this we've invited to experts on a voc in
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a in africa from buckeye and sent a goals on joined by beverly. are seeing with the center for strategic and international studies. hello beverly also from booge out in nigeria. i'm joined by philip body and award winning independence to not less than a contribution to the daily beast, news website. hello philip. hello. all of you. welcome to the program. stay with me . as we go through this, i'm in the central african republic. wagner has secured little creative mind and concessions, gaining access to valuable resources, like gold and diamonds. reports is a go to china. i questioned him about that's, that's the goodness of where it's been putting sees. oh, she doesn't have a colonial quest and therefore is better equipped to work with african countries. but the one that group the cops is here really involved in pick something or else here in molly and so done on elsewhere where you are active. what's the
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difference? uh next to semantics is entity visits, extraction resources, a flavor of what so colonial power. that's no, that's not the case. and i think that this once again, that's a tool of a lesson for go down that to buy and trust as a van de, uh, most of these are all engaged in southern founders and based on nothing but to it, but fuller send to the application of the western standard, it's on the russian focus, russian posted as president put and said used to help and to it's, the approach is free with this concept of the nation. and because it's through it, as russia had never had a colonial past. and that's where our approaches different we are
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acting as a populace. more than uh the, the boss has that info is very old. so, and uh, we have it to give her a choice to african countries. so we give them a choice to make the, to choose the part that they wish we had just a competition for the rest of us. so is frustrated by this but the commission is good. isn't that right? beverly? let me come to you. you had and i called into the city. russia is just competing on a level playing field is that writes, in your opinion, i mean, the 2nd song in which russia was able to get into the central african republic, allowed it to have some level of dominance. so they came in in 2017 when the c r have requested the us to create a console. so go to being able to access not just what that is,
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but also facilitate the training of its military to fight against rebels. at this point, the bulk of their problems, which had been the dominant, called back to no power. and they, you went, have not quite done enough because the southern, the training and elected government, russia came in and was able to not just dominate the security sector, but also in to the extractive sex of which, despite that being clear, mining codes have not been very well managed by the authorities, the point. so in terms of level, thank you. i think it depends on where the boxes are, what kind of messages being bumper gigs, and how to be able to continue retaining. she gets foothold in the region and dos quite a robust in a way that i think western powers have undermine what they want, permitting the un security council and security and employment. and you know, even that the c, i became a sort of an experiment on what
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a russian diplomacy across the region would come to look like. now. 70 as me. right, right. and philip city says extraction is trade and russia is helping the people of see you've been to these mines. what did you see? well, i love to just take it to be a very good communicate all of the, but it was doing games of knowledge about this. and how much as far as i can say when get promotions. and the way the company has been to the fact that they have been that 0 with so much didn't change. and the one to 10 points by all means a lot of so many studies, you know? so i was leaving my managers and making sure no one else was there. there's glasses, these gold mines including my master. i spoke to my sister. ready so
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you're in the middle show some games and then so the been able to show some gas on this is for the government. thank you. yeah. which was shaky before the rush. i was looking bought some $0.20 out for the remaining damages. i didn't think the insured was. uh right. so, demetrius sits, he was a protege of the of gave me pre goes all right, who founded wagner in 2014, to support the pro ration forces in ukraine, lead to expanding to syria and other parts of africa. this by facing international functions for goals and continued to be a key vag, enough vega until his death in a plane crash in 2023. stay with us guys, the board that to go to china. i asked the city about precautions possible just to
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get us a, a year ago. your for my boss is going to precaution was cute, independent crush. shortly after the wagner groups basically over a 1000000 in russia, how did you feel when you heard about he's done well. uh, and i felt frustrated. it was the case with us from it. and it's only for me for, for lots of people. so it under, it was a huge loss for pricing for african policy in general. and to if i said as i was looking at public as well, again, it was a big friend of central africa. she made a lot for this country. i was so of course it goes to straight. it's how close where you do you have different goals. you have you worked for him before in the central african republic. i wasn't the lead uh when we started working with
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all the roofs and directly. uh, that's when uh, i started working a risk with him direct as well. uh, she was still in me in this uh, and then advised me in this difficult affair and the risk to risk affair. um, but uh, thanks to his advice and good steering. we succeeded in this project. it's likely that the plan was shut down on old us off the russian president vladimir 14. what do you make of those allegations? i make nothing. i have no information this. so i'd rather not come to any conclusions as a lot of information. right, beverly, you had him since you clearly see for goes in as a forceful good in see or how that his, that change must close dealings with the country. so in one
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way it meant that russia would have great control over some of their devotees, all the power of militaries in the country. not some of them is the, are the interesting, the across the so houses where they had also been slowly other similar forces. and for a long time, it's about as if they had been a bit of a capital between the russian defense ministry and the activities of the bottom in the range of the fact that they've seen wife latonya watts. and that precaution was presenting the political and military challenge between the president argument presented and went back to mutiny. hop sometime in july, just as go goes in depth. that's when it became quite evident that causes influence what i'm not sitting too well with the credit. if they don't get and so when to go out of the way it enabled that adoption defense industry as well, especially to have a bit more control over how to get to the change of the kind of industries phillips . let me get your take on this bid to goes into involvement and see out improve
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things for the people of the country. you've already touched on the mind and aspect of things. gary, nothing good has come off of that. but overall you seems to suggest that security wise, those some sort of positive i'm i, right. is that correct? so if you look at the body to the other strings that tell you that the now so long piece is sort of the don't get before the russians kill him, but i don't understand what you're saying. so because i did it, i wish i was good involved and i'm going to start writing all the copy. the budget was on the not somebody that you only saw somewhere else and, but it shouldn't have somewhat house, almost full control of. so the have, you know, some level of interest of the company, what the name of these people will tell you the experiences
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when it comes to how the restaurant subscribed to the control of mining communities . so there's different kind of opinions in the using the wasn't solved or leading succession way remains. so yeah, right, right now, um several organizations say russia is spreading this information in parts of africa and c, r to distract from the control of our local resources. probably link to the mining you just talked about, is it going to ask city if his job involved anything else and to respond to accusations that it was a front for something else? let's say. well, that's the problem of less than propaganda. they take a tiny piece of information, they ex triple 8 it and the by and people as the babies. this is based on the cell
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information in front of the internet. and to actually the last that i am right now, i'm the investor of the russian. like an informal investor for russian polis in this country. and that's my responsibility. my main job is analytics and to cultural activities. so this center i should bring or restaurant and the central african republic, closer together via a cultural means. why have the center within your studies, but spend the time? i still do my job in the region some of this country for present or there is any age or in the dark, some of the some of our groups because i've got an experience during my work um, before i got to the inventory, right. if you're there, see, and room and i still have that experience this experience to allow. i'm still like,
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sometime ago i was in congo in token with the on to my like i have to convince them to disarm it goes also i think it was in the success a successful mission that helped his arm or she would, she wrote a onto valeca in the city and uh, i did like this step by step. i hope i'm kelvin does come through this country and bring my face to the citizens. phillips sits, he points to his mediation work, says he hopes he is bringing peace to the citizens of c. a r, what do you make of that as well that i'm sorry. what are the ones you do? the was the national storage of this a little for the notions beginning. bought the probably the best buy um, oops, love justin simpler but also in chrome and log in everything
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is all, you know, i mean all new substance abuse and what i want students situation way eventually the direction, but i really do have some, some of the groups which the website to see how you know these i'm groups come together for me and the country for the window. i'm able to get into the confession for the gigs of hoops to assist fire on what they're trying to do was to, you know, i met with some of the schools just to be able to look at it. and the example is all about a lot of g as update which is acting in the country right now. this room it to yesterday. i will wait to. busy some of the or the tried to stay with your
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function of the for the country. so. yeah. yeah. so piece only has one done very well, hasn't been successful. okay. yeah, no, i didn't think it was the country. right. so it seems that bethany, that, you know, negotiations on not going as well as city would want people to think. he also said this and i quotes that he is the informal, i'm boss of that old russian policy to see are in a presidential negotiator, would it onto buckeye in c, r and congo. what does that tell us about his role as i think i just told you just high how high all the rest of influence is. and the fact that this is not an official person working for the kremlin. for instance, even though there's always been back into the wind line between about the credit,
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which is a person who is running the asset on the cultural center. but it also able to have it. but they have the level of political suite who the government is negotiating with one of the terms and conditions. how do you come to an agreement, which is the possible if you think about what the government's job is supposed to be. the influence that they have on the behalf of not just the volume, but even dependent. he seems to have the concern that some diplomats are pointed out to about c culture or russian influence or the fact that the c and has sort of become a bigger kind of doing tube dependent and provide. right. so voc about has been accused of serious human rights abuses across africa by human rights organizations and western governments in the central african republic. they've been accused of burning down villages and killing civilians to take control of mine in areas. let's
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get back to the use interview with demetrius city, where to go to chat. so well, organizations including the united nations on human rights organizations. i see vitamins here in the central african republic has got worse. not better after coming. why start? do you think? are you worried about that? um, oh, this is just a mechanism to uh to make russian vehicle for america, but she doesn't have that kind of, of beverly cities. sounds determined and dismissive, wagner has obviously called out denise and c are at the very top. i see you also see that suggested area. how secure is the opposition though? i mean, i've been to the point about the meetings back to that security, particularly the capital and saw small towns in the country in 2020. they have this
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big campaign against minutes and remo groups. so what's the threatening toward the 2nd time they and the success about, oh, persian is part of what game does not just the public presidents within the c r, but also in the saw how. but at the moment, this report of some of the groups that i encroaching within the capital that had been some disagreement between groups that decided to side with the eva joined the training and the final and initiative. and then main groups, statements, scholarship happening in the eastern part of the country. with this one, i'm listening to the bean bag, which happened and bought it from scratch. it started. so it needs a miniature in both those high escalator because they are also part of me being upon me by the back. include. so the mixed mixed bag at the moment, philip. but just to be clear, this was a long interview. we've only been able to play brief accepts on it, but to say to you, repeat that mistress,
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that you know he's doing the bidding of precedent to a dera. so mom is top like in this to quote, states capture. is that a valid accusation? you think as i think so how to do, but it seems like i have gone to so this is in the country. i had visited some of these miles. so i know what's going on there. and i spoke to somebody else do. and what we are doing, that's what the government doing, collaboration with the these they all are doing what they want to do because this is the shows that the, you know, most, your daughter and what should happen. but i didn't finish upgrading the minds of the and because the mice didn't either, one of those shall exist. and that's why this conference is still going to. and
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that's why it seems like about 6 years in the body. you know, it seems like there's really a term, but in terms of stability in the piece, that's because no one is the best one to listen to the emissions they love, you know, sitting down hill and women for other people to disclose the minutes of the, especially in love with the 1st. so that's why it happens as the culture because they only do what did you say and the way. right. so it's a little a lot of the problems and issues press, fist and solution oriented. and this is what we should be aiming as a wild lead us or international community should be aiming. that's beverly watching with a sense of full, strategic and international studies in the car and award winning independence general list and the contribution out to the database to for the full body for my boys. i nigeria. thank you guys for sharing your time with us. to thank you so much
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