to including direct attacks from a ronnie and story like every other southern country in the world. the state of israel has the right and the duty to respond. our defense event offensive capabilities are fully mobilized. we will do whatever necessary to defend the state of israel and the people of the piece. okay, so that was daniel regarding that, let's bring in the use the lease corresponding tanya kramer. she's joining us from jerusalem. thanks so much for joining us on the show, tanya. can you walk us through a little bit more about what we know, how much do we know about these is really started strides on targets in iran, or why is this item indeed has stood coming in? but what we noticed, i took it off to, to a local time here in the region. and the is really all me basically confirmed in the statement that there are conducting these precise strikes on military targets

in iran and the keyboard. he is military targets. and from what we understand heels, what's reported in is there any media, this attack or the retaliatory strikes are ongoing the piece to be a 2nd wave of strikes. and we understand from state media and iran that they were reporting for as the explosions around a tear on this be no more reports in state media saying that military bases were targeted. there are also reports about the strikes in the syrian capital demoss schools. although we don't have much more information on that, no, the keyboard is what we heard also from the military's books person is that these are military targets. have been a lot of concern. and the lead up to this retaliation that there would be an entry targets or nuclear targets, but we still don't know exactly what the targets on their reports here, at least. what are you hearing in the local media here that this is the scores of

targets as they describe it from facilities and manufacturing, midsize, and drones ballistic missile launches? it could be also the defense of that's being attacked. we don't know yet. all these details, we expecting them to come to light, you know, as the hours of progress right now. this is an unfolding event at the moment. so we have to, you know, see also what's the scope and scale of this attack to understand as well how you found denver respond to this retardation. yeah, certainly we're going to get some more details in the coming hours perhaps days as well, but from israel was perspective that were ready fighting a war on 2 fronts in lab and on and in gauze. that was the strategy that these really government is pursuing here by launching these, these retaliatory attacks against the wrong as well. um these for

toyota or a text are not coming as a surprise to have been repaired ever since yvonne alone just about 200 ballistic missiles back on october 1st at isabel dealt boys in retaliation of for as he runs said at the time of the killing off from us the, the, it's my honey a into run back in july, but then also the killing of the targeted assassination of as well a leader how soon as well, his full of being a proxy of iran now on the preparations for the strike where you know done over the past weeks, it was not so much a matter of it's about when we understand also that on the green lights was given earlier on a friday night snow for this to go ahead. and the idea of that is where the military had made it very clear, as you also mentioned,

that it has every right and to do to respond to what it described to you on an attack since october 7, the terror attacks on october 7. but this comes, of course, also need to see it and the white a picture that has been for years she had a war going on, it was always cold. and israel, the war between wars, between iran and israel. this came out in the open back in april when yvonne a 1st attacked is read from it. so again, as let me tell you is no, so for a strike by is ro on it's embassy compound. in damascus, at the time iran attacked as well then with a drones and midsize most where it intercepted an ever since. this tit for tat has broken. you know, has, has open basic key between the 2 countries and put it in the very, very dangerous situation. because as right. you said there's a boy and girl is that going on for over a year now? it's devastating consequences there for the civilian population, but also against has been a in liberal non and of course, as

a lot is concerned right now that this could actually spill open into a wider reach. no more. yeah, and that is the concern. let's talk a bit more about have we have any reaction from iran, perhaps you can fill us in on how to run this proxies that you were mentioning. how might they respond to this is riley strike onto rob as well. i think the reading here in israel is that, um, you know, of course there is a lot of talk about this now because this will determine how this, you know, back and forth between iran and israel, will continue or will it, will it end with this, this depends really very much on the scope and scale of this a military attack. now tonight, or the retaliation by is ro tonight. and we need to learn more about the targets and the scale of all of this. or we are hearing already some reports in the run

around your media that has been no official comment as of yet as far as we know here. uh, from a run you know, officials, but from those a state media outlets saying that there were some, some of the targets were in the a to run in on military target stairs and barracks and, and other targets of that sort. but we don't know, again at the moment, you know, what has been attacked, and that's been some are, you know, in the lead up to this retardation that around might or choose to respond rather quickly. it might also choose to wait. we don't know at this point and i think this is, you know, in the early stages of this operation, we have to wait and see how the next hours here will unfold. yeah, it's a, it's an interesting one time here because as you mentioned, this sort of shadow war that has kind of been bubbling on the surface. this is not all coming out in the open. can you give us any insight about what this might mean? sort of region of the going forward,

perhaps any comment that you can make about international pay is the united states, for instance, coming in on this. i know it has been made very clear early on tonight that although the u. s. there were a lot of consultations, apparently going on between israel and the united states in the weeks leading up no to this retaliation. but this is an attack that has been carried out by israel. have you heard it from us officials? they're apparently from what you're hearing a were informed about, but they're not involved. however we've been seeing and previous attacks, like in april, it was the defense of a correlation of states that helped as road to defend it against those drone and missile attacks. the united states have also deployed the soft, an air defense system right now here in israel and the past week. know an anticipation possibly for uh some retardation by yvonne. so you could say

definitely that, you know, the region of tonight is once again, and we've been in this situation here many times now over the past month is on the edge to see, you know, how this will develop a whether, you know, somehow this will conclude with this or you know what iran will know do because now the bowl is i'll send you runs chords, we will also, we might see more attacks in the coming days. so it's at the moment it's pretty unclear whether it is a limited attack over that will be white in scale and that requires yvonne as well to attack together with its proxies, of course, has belie, i'm in liberal known and other proxies from iraq. res, seem to who's in yemen attacking in recent months? so. so all of this together makes it a very palletized situation here. yeah. much, much more to come. i think tanya, we're really very grateful for your reporting on the show. thank you so much. tanya

kramer dw, is the least corresponding injuries to them that to okay, now we're going to bring in a dw report this stuff in simon's, he's joining us from washington, dc, perhaps stuff. and we had a little bit that from time you are by what the lights of what new the united states has been saying, perhaps you can give us as that being any response from the white highs yet. yeah, that has been the white house. so 1st of all, the response is that the president who is not in the white house behind me is brief and real time on the situation involving ongoing situation. as tanya pointed downstairs, apparently a 2nd wave of protects airstrikes going on on is rarely exercise on iran on tier on, on military targets. that's a key word keyword. also for the united states, a different secretary lloyd austin, has talked to the, to his pulled onto his equivalent and israel to the defense minister in his room. all right, after this operation motor operation by as we all started. so the us isn't the loop

was in the loop all the time as time you're also has already said in the united states, made sure that they have kind of a say in when, how to what scale and scope this operation is conducted military targets. there was really important for the why tell us, for the, by mid ministration, limited extra now how much or how limited this action or operation will be if this is a 1st, 2nd, maybe a 3rd wave and then it stops. and how then you wrong, retaliates. if at all or if these are, these have something else in pedo that is completely up for grabs. nobody knows that maybe not even the white house. maybe they do that, but they're not saying you're, you're following the story extensively that are in, in washington. how closely in long stats all the united states on the is raise w w. us officials feel like that fully aware of what's happening and what the

thinking is behind me is really government. or is it just more of a, a sort of flagging just before one of these events take place takes place. this i think is often the case that it's just sliding and that speaks to the teacher reading a relationship between specifically the prime minister benjamin at the new out and president joe biden. however, in this case, the united states secretary of state blinking the white house a security advisor sullivan as the president himself were team lead and do of course of defense secretary austic team the involved in this time you had mentioned that the sides system, the terminal high altitude area defense, that's a system that is a mo bile and the surface to air missile defense system. it just arrived in israel and that was problem with 100 us soldiers walk, right, that thing. and that was promised and given to israel, the making sure that the us has a say in to what scope and scale israel conduct this military operation,

which we're witnessing right now against peer rock. same goes for a text us a text on who is the rebels, are who the elements in yemen, same goals for military pots and f, 16 fighter jets deliveries. we just arrived the other day in israel and so on. there is a close intelligence corporation going on. so in this regarding this operation regarding this fear, stripe or to come air strikes this much operation, fraser of the u. s. is fully aware and it doesn't come as a surprise. now again, having all said that the us is adamant about the fact that it has no active role in this operation. it doesn't support it in any kind of. busy way or form military boots on the ground or anything else military hardware for this operation. yeah, these kind of operations they pay into us politics to show on. right now we are in a full election fees in the united states, less than 2 weeks away. but before people head to the pose,

does that strike fit in that? or is it going to be sort of played or used by the candidate is what, what does it land in the context of the elections of the i think it's a, it's, there is no escaping this. i think that's going to happen. it's not going to happen . right now, right now, as we speak here about to give it a few hours, maybe a day or 2, and it will land and be utilized politicized, and used in the, on the campaigns. well, that's the harris campaign, as well as donald trump skip and all the drum always has said log user, i'll do whatever you want. do you have my full support? give it to the iranians. it's all fine with me. the harris administration of the, by mary's administration at the bang areas campaign is a little bit more differentiating on this issue. um, as you know, uh, criminal harris said like listen guys. uh, october 7th. yes. the united states understand it is a horrible uh, was a horrible massacre and attack. and of course israel has the right to defend itself against any enemy. and we're supporting the u. s.