and practically tied every vote kinds at this late stage in the campaign. one of the most important groups stuff, both harris, i'm trump, have been trying to woo, our latino voters. harris has been struggling to capture as much support from latinos as previous democratic presidential hopefuls, which he may have been given a much needed boost after the outrage of a racist comments about puerto rico made by a comic at donald trump's riley this past weekend. could it be enough to wind the rice on public phone in the us, in berlin? and this is the day the wednesday. it's literally for, for the weekend, where we left the moments. it sounds like a l. a talk propaganda child's therapy. below this guy's, it's a medium. it's not a very funny one. and i think what he said was insulting. i'm the one that i'm

a partner with. i was raised in new york city. i know what braces they may have. on the other hand, i don't think, do you know everything that said 5 people supporting a candidate should be directly attributed to the candidate themselves. now that they see their reaction from the public and what they what are the stakes in terms of losing voters? they're trying to retract also on the day the whole world is waiting to see who wins next week's election. i know where maybe as much as ukraine menu, ukrainians, fear their country's future is on the ballot to. this is a war that has to end and we're going to get that were ended. i'm going to try it. i think i can get it ended as president elect. the other words before i even take over the why. welcome to the day. it's just one week till the us presidential election,

and polls continue to point to a deadlocked race. for months, experts have been saying that the outcome is likely to come down to a tiny fraction of voters and a handful of decisive bible grand states. meanwhile, donald trump and kinda harris are fighting for every vote with no room for air and us politics. the term october surprise, refers to an unexpected event in the final weeks of campaigning that can opened a candidates trances. change the trajectory of the election in 2016, a link to a recording of donald trump making lude remarks. didn't seem to hurt his campaign, but bombshell revelations at the f. b, i was investigating hillary clinton's handling of emails seem to confirm voter mistrust of her. she lost the election despite polls predicting a when. so last weekend, trump held a reilly in the democratic stronghold of new york. and he's been sharply criticized

for among other things, racist undertones. a canadian speaking head of trump describe the us territory of puerto rico as quote, 8 floating island of garbage. those remarks have been widely condemned, but today trump double dime defend that is right. i don't think anybody has ever seen anything like what happened the other night at madison square garden. the love the love in that room. it was breathtaking. there's never been an event so beautiful was like a love fest, an absolute love fest and it was my honor to be involved are but many in the diverse latino community see things very different. the polls show republicans have been making inroads among latino voters. but the trump riley has sparked a backlash, including in the most when state of pennsylvania, which is home to a large puerto rican community. could this be an october surprise?

that hurts trump. chances here's has some in the latino community are react. it's a job that gave a real bad faith in my mouth because i'm puerto rican and i love my island and my family. a body is out of photo rico. and what the jo p that is best buy. i haven't because it's not nice. we're here to demand that not only we skipped away from some pain have a real apology, but also to ask that we are respected as american citizens, that we are a presidential candidate in front of the entire country says that asia so it doesn't surprise me at all does not surprised me all to see a person reading, talk about puerto rico in that way. people don't are not talking a lot of my father thinks on the streets and uh,

but they're not very happy about donald trump. all right, well for more than this, we're joined by certain i'm those total most i pull and today who's an assistant professor of sociology at the university of pittsburgh in the bible grand state of pennsylvania, who specializes in puerto rican politics. welcome to dw for them on the so 1st and foremost, do you think be puerto rico comments could be on october surprise for trump. i mean, elections are decided by a consequence of factors. and when these elections are so close as we see now, one of these factors changing at this late stage could shape the outcome of an election. now you, you're in pennsylvania, which is one of these most when the state set for both campaigns. they've been campaigning hard there. it also has a large puerto rican community. so tell us more about their political leanings

guess what we observed in the case of what the guns in pennsylvania and nothing else more generally is that they are overwhelmingly supportive of the democratic party. however, it is important to also note that of only 40 percent of eligible at the nodes went out to vote and the 2020 presidential election. so in so far as these incendiary commons can trigger and electronic mobilization and turn out, it could have an impact on the electronic outcome of pennsylvania. and in doing so, it could shape the presidential election. yeah, of course, because i mean, it could come down to several 1000 votes that some republicans have been trying to downplay what they say was intended as a joke. but that wasn't the only device of language he used on stage. or in fact, in the, in the campaign as a whole, right?

as a correct. and i think what's interesting about this particular case is that this is a reminder of the scandalous behavior that folks are used to observe me from the presidential candidate donald trump. and it is a reminder that comes only days prior to election day. sometimes scandals are something that people tend to forget over time into donald trash case. they are overwhelmed by the amount of stimulus behavior that they observe in this candidate . but when this happens so close and it becomes such a viable event that people find out about and it triggers the motions of it and can trigger mobilization, it could really have a detrimental impact to this campaign. so i was quite surprised that these remarks were made, and the cam printing, the trump campaigns, efforts to try to walk them back, may not be very, very effective because it's harder to reach the amount of people that were reached

by the remarks themselves. and try to walk that back so people may find will likely find out about the remarks, but they are all might be to find out or these about these look war efforts to try to walk back. the comments from the latino voters are often it's often simplified into this sort of block of latino voters. but of course it's a very diverse group of people in the united states. can you explain to us a little bit more about those differences in how they're at political leanings differ? the absolutely, it's important to note that the homes are not a homogeneous group. and where we see an overwhelming support for the democratic party is among mexicans and put to freak us. but we've seen other ethnic groups within the broader latino product miss city to have varying levels of support for the democratic party. and then we also see a large share of support among let the know use for the democratic party less. so

i'm on of the elderly population that we also see differences among latino man and let the know women. when we see that latino women are overwhelmingly supporters of the democratic party and trump actually performs a little better when it comes to latino men. so it's, that's a very homogeneous population. but they, so far as something can trigger them to mobilize as a block. that is where we see the potential of an impact on, on our electrical outcome, like we might see in the presidential elections this year. that you've broken it down for us a little bit there. but polls are suggesting, for example, that latino support will go back to sort of this broad term again. and for comma harris isn't the strong as a, has been for democratic candidates in the past. what do you think that is? and i think that again, there's so much scandalous behavior that the memory of donald trump,

the person who use incendiary language to refer to a number of ethnic minority groups, may have faded over time. even something as reason. and he is remarks about patient immigrants in springfield, ohio, claiming, and erroneous lee that they were eating cuts and dogs all these things might say, we also know, for instance, that the folks are inundated by these news. and, and trump has argued that all of the cases that had been brought against him are a case of loss where that he's the victim of persecution by his political opponent . and that has mobilized a number of folks to sympathize with the trump candidate. we also know that trump has argued somewhat effectively, the rising inflation is the democrats fault is also deployed this course rather effective, really about a crisis at the builder. so these are potential

a factors that have allowed him to gain some favor within the latino population. but these are that you may counteract those gains that he had made in the last few months. we'll leave it there for them on the great to have you on the show. fernando told him most i ponce, joining us from the university of pittsburgh in pennsylvania. take care they don't get a vote on november 5th, board, but fort ukrainians. the states in the us as presidential election could be higher helping ukraine used to be one of the few things as democrats and republicans agreed on. but donald trump has refused to spell out whether he wants to ukraine to win its war against russia's invasion. was polling, showing trump and comma harris, neck and neck. ukrainians are trying to make sense of what a trump or a harvest presidency would mean for them. i think zelinski is one of the greatest salesman i've ever seen. every time he comes in, we give him a $100000000000.00,

but he should never have left that or start that lowers a loser. if donald trump for president vladimir putin will be sitting in cheese and understand what that would mean for america and are standing around the world, putting keys with a scenario most ukrainians thought was off the cards of to 20. 22. donald trump is put the cost of supporting crane at the center of his pits to american voters. and that's for a couple of hours to respond. dr. campaign in which she's been trying to steer clear foreign policy. good, thank you. brand new sympathies, what it will be with harris. for the most part they all for the team is let's get told new york magazine, the trump quote doesn't really know how to stop the war and cool trumps running mate. judy vance's ideas to end the conflict. dangerous, but it's a little that clear cuts. there is very real frustration in cube with the bite in ministration. and it's vice president come

a harris. and since ukrainians don't get a vote and the selection policy makers having to map out what they do. if trump gets back to the white house and look for potential upsides, trump is unpredictable keys risky. he is quite skeptical about our prospect, but at the same time, he was the 1st to provide joe is. he's also the one who promised to ball moscow and bait. gene harris is much more predictable to she's differently. will repeat some divided mistake and that is being on the size of install control. and so helping you create and crane politicians for a, for the harris administration would be dominated by finding the reform policy thinking they see as too fearful of crossing printing circles. red lines, for instance, by allowing ukraine to use us long range weapons against targets in russia. a card us support these critics argue is enough to provide the ukraine's army from collapsing. but insufficient trisic thrills damage of preaching are forced into and the will on terms of grant can agree to your grand needs more rather the less you

a support. how could it ever expect that from a man like donald trump, who never misses an opportunity to complain? about what ukraine is costing americans. the only one to many observers and come with the harris trumps. often repeat, you claim that he can end the war in 24 hours. it sounds like code for force and ukraine. skip it tonight by pulling the plug on us support a we're heavy can see, but some of ukrainians think they can still when trump over they point to previous trump policy, you tons and suggestions from is advises that they would increase a to ukraine. opiate only if could have failed to negotiate their awesome uh, some of our stakeholders costs do convinced that drug will change his mind. and they as great and god will be able to convince drum to see your brain as a trust the wall. a going to email, you build it up or do they need you? grant is a success story for trauma. the side for the politics is also the human side of this equation. we spoke, a couple of trump makes no secret of

a separation computing. trump zaleski, serious baggage trunk was impeached in 2019 of allegations. he pressed to lensky to investigate you by the son's business. grain full that works on the drive is convinced trump and zalesky more uncommon. and 1st me see i need to be here. they uh, validation suppose the same approach to, for the policy, they all about individual approaches, individual context acquaintances. so if you still use the landscape as he said, what a good, a good sales man. and i do believe that the 4 point of your dropped a good salesman is a compliment. and then there's the question of money. us the sofa provided ukraine is approximately $100000000000.00 of aid is rusher and fated 2022. that's less than 5 percent. of the us defense budget, so that the same period, for example, with american voters or the same and not just the republicans seen from key if that is another way to us and you are what's called skate and not just freeze hundreds

of billions dollars of russian assets in western banks, in american text based wouldn't have to put the bill of defending ukraine. russia would. ukraine's leaders can convince trump the price of supporting them is coming down. then maybe just, maybe they can change his mind if he wins the white house on november, the 5th harris wins the message from key if she would be unhappy with either. alexander vin is a retired us army new tenant colonel. most recently, he was the director for european affairs in the national security council. he was born in, keith found his family move to the united states when he was a child mister vin. great to have you on data over here in use today. so the us selection, as we know, is just step days away. now at this stage, what would a donald trump when mean for and ukraine as well, thanks for having the honor. i'm really, really looking forward to this conversation has been about

a year since i've been to germany. you know, i've been thinking about this question of foreign policy and national security extensively. i just had an article come out and do speak today. basically talking about the effects of the selection in both domestically and around the world. the impacts for europe in particular are in more immediate in dire where you have in a trump election is basically a turn to isolationism. something that we haven't had as a current and us national security in many decades since before world war 2. and in that kind of scenario, to create some back room for, for the enemies of democracy in your neck of the woods. that means russia believes it has a for your head and believes it could escalate its hybrid more for sabotaged operations . it's uh, its efforts to so just forward amongst the populations of europe and within germany, and potentially move towards a military aggression, which is

a particularly dangerous situation for the eastern european nations. that fully believe their next and brushes cross hairs. as soon as russia has done um, rebuilding core elements of an ex empire. so it's a quite a dangerous turn towards the larger war spillover and a potential larger competition. you're the islands, which we see today with foreign troops already kind of settling into, into support. rush and whether that's around in advisors and operators of, of drones or the north koreans starting with munition. and now moving on to true presence. it's a pretty, a terrifying is pretty careful in what you just have to to say there. so from the european perspective perspective, what would you say you should be doing that? i think when i talked to the europeans, i really do point out that they should be hedging against

a worst case scenario for europe, for the world, which is a donald trump administration. in that kind of scenario, europe is going to have to play a much more, frankly, a muscular, more muscular role to deter russian of russian. russia is going to believe it has opportunities with the absence of the us without or the arsenal of democracy as a backbone to nato. in our kind of scenario, we're going to have to see some, some sort of, most de larry that we actually haven't seen in europe in germany and then too long . um, that sounds almost talked issue, but you have to think about it in the context of the russians with their belief in an opportunity and weakness. so europe is going to have to make it clear that it will absolutely defendants nationals for an interest. the way it starts to do that is by doubling down on support to ukraine. potentially that goes as far as what a manual ma chrome has mentioned with true presence in support of ukraine. that could be the polls, the remaining of the baltic states that fuel is danger,

more cutely stepping up support potentially putting, putting a troops again on the premise of the fighting a russia onion. framing territory is better than fighting on, on the home territory of european nations. of nato nations, but i will say that i have faith and confidence in the american people. yes, this election will be close. but we face down despotism before both in a foreign and domestic context in the us. and i could see the energy browning around combo harris. and in that case, it's more of an opportunity for the democracies to consolidate, to work together are against this surging on battle between the autocrats and the democrats. it's a much more hopeful of, you know, grounded in reality that we will likely face, but a lot of work to do right on the dangers don't just here. so we just have an opportunity to work together instead of work individually. but alexander, of course, you know, we have to take into account that there is this possibility that donald trump could

when, of course. and he says that it's in the interest of the american people to stop funding a war that's far away. so how would you argue to him at that it's your best to actually continue supporting your great so honestly, this, the misconception is that you can somehow negotiate or make a deal with donald trump. that's just not likely true true. the fact is that trump will be a friend to our mutual enemies, our adversaries. the folks that threatened our way of life, and a threat to democracy is to germany, to france, to all your team democracies. i think it's, it is a flows, aaron, to, to try to see if there's, but that's worth it. don't get me wrong. it's absolutely worth it to try to make those overtures to, to reach out communicate. maybe there's a deal to be done. something very transactional, where europe really takes on

a much much heavier burden that may entice donald trump to not withdraw from data. but that's, that's not likely that the program for donald trump for judy vance. this, this very dangerous program called project 2025 will see us withdraw from our role as a, as a central member of the anita logics. and frankly, as a he won't work for democracy around the world. so yes, it's worth trying, but we should, i think the european should, in the event reality of a trumpet ministration should really understand how precarious situation is. and think about the idea that you're will have to go go it alone more than are relying on us. it's, it's a, it's terrifying, but it's, yeah, terrifying is the word and of course we're talking as well about a, essentially a monumental shift in, in many ways. and let's talk about kind of the harris would you see much of a change in her policies towards ukraine or would essentially be

a continuation of what we see what we've seen under by so the base line would be some sort of, uh, continuity uh, my status photo sorts, but i actually think it's probably gonna end up being better than that. and the reason is that it isn't not, it's, and neither in the us or european, or certainly not in many credit you interest for a perpetual war between russian ukraine. and there was an opportunity in the 3rd year the but to the 3rd year, more were russia under house administration, recognize it recognizes it faces the full, my. how are you frame, backed by democracies back by nato or europe and the us, and really needs a push to move towards negotiations and what that push amounts to is success that you practice successes on the balcony. so in addition to having those, those geopolitical tail wins the brain with support firefights and for,

for ukraine, for the foreseeable future. providing ukraine with additional resources, military resources and munition training, which is absolutely essential. the industrial base investing in your brains industrial base and the preparation for the ukrainians to be successful in the balance. you could really set the conditions for you're going to press russia into negotiations as under. we've got about 40 seconds left, but i do want to ask you this as a, as someone who's born in ukraine, how do you see ukrainians in their commitment? well sir, think of the premiums as a people aspire to your um, that's why they had a revolution of digney and paid this very, very dear price. i think you're uh, should, i should welcome you praying cuz you pray and will add to your up strength. i think that's a mutually beneficial relationship. the hesitancy on the part of the german leadership needs to meet needs to shift and are germany simply a much more powerful role in europe and security and support of the brain. and then

pushing back or just authoritarianism and autocrats. that searching around the world alexander is being that certainly interesting and very sobering speaking to you this evening at us, our maintenance handle, colonel alexander bittman, thanks for joining us on dw news. thank you. the dots to show for today follow our team on social media id to be in use. the latest headlines are looking for it as always. our website dw dot com for now from the entire team on the day. thanks for spending part of your date with us. take the

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