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according to german lore. a growing economy means growing prosperity, the foundation on which germany was built. we're trying to, i believe economic growth is essential to safeguard our trust period again. but now germany isn't doing well. millions of yours in debt. the economy, lackluster? 2023, negative growth of 0.3 percent. what is that a bad thing? or could it be a blessing, at least for the climate? what would a world without economic growth look like the these people are angry,

fall 2023 climate demonstrations and all of jeremy's major cities. environment protests have become one of the great social movements of our time. the average global temperature continued to rise in 2023. apparently, it was the warmest year since records begun the, the battle for climate protection has long been waged on the streets. the we have not only a climate problem, but also a social one. for some the planet comes 1st. the others are afraid of high energy costs, social decline, or the loss of benefits. farmers in germany demonstrated against the evolution of

subsidized diesel for agriculture. the and hamburg, on the other hand, people rallied in support of a new perspectives. the child which is now it's about for, i'm sick and tired of hearing about all the things we need more of me when actually we need less of everything. we don't need more energy. we just need to be using less of it just for paul. i'm fighting so it's about my overall and above all, we should start to train our understanding of prosperity as the secret code, the hiding a cool that's listed here. they're giving it a try, tumbler, cool. and also the in the heart of the cities district, the restaurant, clint, dishes here, costs between 15 and 21 years with several of course as needed. say she had the

appetite on housing, the push and molly on us one has to know the restaurant rat race well very well. in fact, both have worked in mission and star of restaurants for years. 18 hour days, pressure stress. then they opened their own restaurant and decided we're going to do things differently. and they're establishing that in the kitchens where we've worked, you're just a number staff or a dime. it doesn't allow us to. and then working 18 hour days and the new on the basement kitchen on the head, you prep, mine goes from thailand, down are birds from friends and fish for me personally. and who knows what house and for 2 stars that latania not so here at the kink in summer regional vegetables are preserved for the winter menu. sustainable good for the climate. and for people folks just agree. increasing sales and profits isn't the most important thing.

dec i going to be the initiatives, the not the career path i saw ahead of me would only have been possible with a pushy mentality. and that's just not me. and i realize that all the people in the industry who i look up to are all pretty exhausted by the seems comforts and little danger of that chair fairway. just for stuff. no unpaid overtime, only organic ingredients kind to the planet and people because you are sure we could get double the work out of the financing, but fine grained them times a year every day. at some point, they'll burn out or night. it's nothing new only. so we just keep going to the most practical decision, the restaurants closed on the weekend when business typically peaks to my father. when i told my dad that was those on saturday and sunday you looked

at me and said sun, you can do that. it won't work, it doesn't spring, but it does. and the restaurants, particular nation, at least an intentional foundry that the chef can and want to afford boss and it says, what are we passing up? we're passing up the chance of owning our own home in early thirties and having a portion of the park outside the door down. and that's it. and it concerns that our world away from the life of this month. you can hang with the alarm clock goes off at 1 am every morning for more than 50 years ish. i the ceiling target to hold it i. i worked 7 days a week in to 1000 new other ways. we were at capacity and i enjoyed my job. it's tiring, like 7 days

a week without any time off the site. so if there were 8 days in the week, you'd still be at work is bakery and a small, heavy in town has a staff of $26.00. here. no one's thinking about home ownership or a luxury cars. rather survival in a world was discount to plastic wrap, supermarket bread and lysis flux to there has to be grouped in however small. then if we start going to happen, energy costs are speaking, the price of ingredients is rising. yes, again, the, the uncommon got to absorb these costs some higher thing if he closed for several days, like the kink or restaurant you all can handle, which would be quickly wiped off the market. and if you have talk of always with function, if avenue 40 weeks don't work like that, we're a service provider toggle. if we did a 4 day week, a good many of our customers would just take their business elsewhere from the and

so coffee at the supermarket next store pretzels, cost us $0.30. but this business drives on, it's customer loyalty and appreciation. lunch time. you all can hear him, which has already worked a 13 hour day doing the job he loves comes at a price. that is so much by god munch maya went on fox. and if i mean that can sometimes be a balancing act, yes. and the bus and you've got to give up on the family time because the business needs attention. which means i can go to the soccer games and often it's a shame i love watching my son play soccer. even every few of our customers are aware of what's involved because it's difficult to convey, having to get up every night with our fail. let's come and know should be a find me that you all can handle it as often crushed has limits. the planet has also reached its summits, just like our economic system did a while back already. a burning issue for this woman.

essentially my name's or rica harman, and i've written a book titled in the end of capitalism, my growth and climate protection are incompatible. and how will live in the future leading that gathering the business consultants. growing the economy is their professional duties. she's here as a guest speaker one time, and i'm an interesting day. you can't grow independently in the only night world just eat it's just not possible. thoughts on germany is currently behaving as though it could consume 3 planet as of all home. and as we're all aware, there's only one or, well, i'm the ada capitalism is. now the problem says, hammer and extreme times require radical solutions to get a handle on the climate crisis. our economic output must drink dramatically that essentially. so 45 give us most. indeed the question is, what needs to strings here?

and what doesn't, to paul, since dancers clear on us particularly energy intensive sectors that admit the most of the c o. 2 must be scaled down by the plains, cars, the chemical and steel industries. but also the construction of new homes are all problematic and should be phased out on this putting the moto says on the assignment ended fabulous this debate. as soon as it goes on to unfolding and starting it since a fairly short week about the rest of the world would look at germany and say, you've completely lost your mind to the emissions we generate overall or 2 percent of total global emission myself mode. and so we can shut down the entire german economy overnight and deal with a social problems that will entail what is the 4 day week won't help much there. and then on the other hand, realize there hasn't been any progress on climate protection guns. that's one of the kind of my name is the names lawrenceville time professor for economic policy at the university of fryeburg, director of the vaults or oregon institute and active and various advisory roles and economic policy making. that even if we discussed this at length for germany,

essentially the conditions must be imposed worldwide. and i don't really see how that can happen. which dispute as well? plus the answer back in the early 19 seventy's scientists led by dennis meadows, one that something had to change on a global scale. their report for limits to growth commission by the club, the phone, outlined precise calculations of the impact of exponential growth on the planet. continuing our business as usual approach will lead to catastrophe. it said 50 years later, the question is still the same. should our economy feel allowed to continue growing? it won't work, say, representatives of what's known as the de growth or post close to movement. the economy must drink, polluting energy sources should go. we should do without unnecessary luxury goods, energy into and so sectors such as aviation, the automobile industry,

our new construction should be phased out, allowing for the expansion of sector securing a sustainable future renewables. public transport, energy efficient renovation, guaranteeing jobs and the process that should be the path we follow away from the religion of growth. but how do we get there? how do we voluntarily live with less? we wanted to find out the one family. one experiment the research call. yeah, that's the ending us try it for 2 weeks. the rules. 5 regional products to limit imports

instead of energy guzzling online streaming, offline entertainment, only as a is the offline entertainment. i think we should do that. i disagree. more bike instead of car the square up for that, aren't we? loss of yes. even when it's raining? yes. yeah. less living space. what could we do with that loss at my desk? i never use it. and then could we said needed me to use the veranda. 7 from 1991 to 2021 alone living space per capita in germany increased by 37 percent. for the next 2 weeks, the family won't use part of their house. they plan a holiday without flying, leave the current home and cycle instead, for example, to the nearest supermarket. so off they go, please know regional products only,

you know, imports. let's see what variety is on offer. that's comes of that comes from from the, from belgium that, from holland that's from australia. it was still nice and it will pop up with me. well, no, we can't get tabitha by the see. i think look, that's regional. and what does it say on the packaging? of the control clips coverage. those cookies do spelled cookies. we always have backed up my grandma since 1921 on series or if he's enough but mm hm. okay, we can take these bed from berlin and we have them back in the day. the lin, sugar mice, show we have them ma'am. yes. we could make a salad in a pumpkin soup and grilled fennel cuz they defend sir. yes, that's good. how about county tomatoes with that to your home? kind of we didn't get any tomatoes or cucumber from germany.

as of that, it wasn't that easy to find things and in midwinter, what kind of vegetables can you buy a pod from cabbage and pumpkin in court? the pumpkin seedlings coming to an end. oh, and in any case, you don't want to eat, not all the time. so that's the question of what you switch to a long spring today. it's pumpkin. so for dinner, everything is checked, but not everyone's happy. and we can't just eat soup normally without some sort of issue the soonest in the local the doing without is difficult, but it's a radical approach. the only way forward do we really have to turn our economic model upside down in order to save the climate?

are not as mountain fighter, it has been, but it takes it up to it. my name is martin idle and political editor of the frank for to oregon, my nose own tech title, and i right to the energy policy under adoption and the german debate. it could be forgiven for thinking that the claimant protection and the economy are polar opposites kind of assessed on fortunate deficiency because an actual fact, a flourishing economy is ideal for effective climate protection commercial. it costs money after all, gate a growing economy is essential for climate protection. it's if we didn't have a pro spring economy because we were under what would happen to tax revenues on the most fee. and then i reckon claim that protection would be the 1st thing to follow by the wayside of environmental protection costs, money to and titles view, restrict to economic growth is the wrong approach. should have what he mucus kinda the end of germany will be a role model for the world of everyone here is poor going a random bicycles and patched up the fluids that we may well the claimant neutral new is going to follow our example. and because in the rest of the world,

the people want to drive a mercedes, perhaps fast what they find too appealing of it. the german model nice doesn't know that we're claiming neutral, but they weren't claimant neutral and still prosperous since making money and running clean businesses. green gross. that's possible. suspend him. he's to attend these rallies regularly when he was active on fridays for future. he made posters registered demonstrations and took to the streets. but now he's distance himself from the movement is up for a new vehicle or earlier a speaker was seeing she can't hear the words wells and growth anymore group setting, but that's what it was. they all do you because that doesn't sit with my assessment of the issue a told to people in my view prosperity create. so i'm not sure if you, yes, many countries would give anything for prosperity like this. and so to be honest, i find it very strange. well, today really has taken a side off the streets and onto the stock exchange, and he now works as

a fund manager investing and companies that are making a conscious effort to reduce their carbon emissions. yeah, and as soon as i said in the ones, i mean we're investing in companies that may not be green yet that are in the process of turning green, so to speak about. and green is of course on abstract concepts and they're realizing their power as compliant. claimant protection strategy. we're investing in these companies because it gives us influence on that process. and it's his philosophy effect change where the impact will be great. just the, given a huge number of goods are exported here from the federal republic of germany that audit and there's a loss of leverage there that's about 4 to 6 dash to reason that we can see much

more c o 2 here on an individual level in the heat definitely doesn't envisage the end of capitalism. on the contrary, that gets out. this is the basis for human existence and consequently, the economy must adapt to the altar condition and it must change its been over the past. i firmly believe it will continue to grow and know my country much, what's going on succeed fine in assignment protection and economic growth can be bedfellows because it will be essential for climate protection. that carbon pricing incentivizes technical progress was an innovation defense to be in or, and technical progress is essential for economic growth for the switch on flux to a flourishing economy and a green transition formula. and felt the 2 things complement one another. that's the idea behind green, gross for almost 200 years,

it's been true when our country's economy grows. so does environmental pollution. both green cross this no longer applies. in fact, emissions should fall continued growth, but in the green zone, by way of new technologies, clean energy and market based ideas. a booming economy was decreasing c o 2 emissions a goal, not just with an industry, but also across the whole of the you. with the green deal, the european union aims to be the world's 1st climate neutral continents. by 2050 the auto focus groups, especially on metal parts for the automotive and aviation industries are manufactured here. for example, car, we'll rims an energy intensive industry that faces major challenges. this site alone consumes as much energy as a town of 40000 inhabitants. nevertheless, the,

because a company we're committed to the 1.5 degree target when, when we set our goal is accordingly and drawn up a 20 year road, many 100 bucks. and that means it's not a sprint. it's, it's a marathon and where you need to be a company. it along the route for tonight and provided with the conditions is to make it possible. germany's climate and transformation funds was established to do just that. but then came the bombshell from castle and november 2023. the federal constitutional court declared unconstitutional to reallocate on use corona virus funding to the climate fund, jeopardizing its operations with a knock on effect at a to folks. we assume that we're funding had been approved, it would stay that way also. so team is a huge shock on the projects are no longer financially viable and become best significant improvements. we'd hope for the site including carbon neutrality and our now and unfortunately much more difficult to achieve. we have become

a case of how many new climate friendly machines suddenly have to be financed without the expected subsidies. another purchase was cancelled altogether. new funding opportunities, unavailable, economic minister hold that. how big and march 2024 are the best a drop in the ocean for the middle of processing industry. international competition is tough. is any of come with it, but it's not the job of politics to make our lives easy, but it's also not the job of politics to make our lives difficult if you're getting investment commitments in advance. and these are honored and, and that's very frustrating. of course you will see we're all fully aware of the budget's current state data house, and now we're having to see what we can do to get ourselves out of this dilemma. dilemma where we're still expected to tackle this transformation filled with significantly less one dixon, and that'll be a major challenge for the entire industry. also, china under cuts, prices abroad, and america heavily subsidized as its own economy in his view,

without much more generous subsidies in germany. a green economic miracle seems unlikely when you get the sense that there is no concept mad or, and also a sense that industry isn't wanted at all. evans and it'll simply go away achieving the emissions reductions target that went through. and i'll have, i thought for others where look here and secure their subsidies before the constitutional court turned off. the top like just called the german steel long regarded as the backbone of the economy, the basis parts upturn, the pit to me of quality. the country had a clear path to becoming the world's leading exporter and to unimagined prosperity the but this success has come at

a price. to hor, region is a case in point. afterall 2.5 percent of all harmful greenhouse gases in germany are emitted from system clock chimney's alone. globally, the steel industry is responsible for 8 percent of all emissions. now we're not waiting for anyone else to begin. we're starting ourselves. we in the state of north ryan west valia are supporting this project to, to some crooked, with one of the largest funding decisions to date. and the largest funding decision in the history of the federal republic of germany. pope to the tune of 2000000000 years. but not everyone's able to imagine the screen miracle fitness box. did you break

it down? i'd argue that green growth is macro economic, green washing bushing and other words for him growth remains problematic. my name is marcia smith, so i'm in economic historian and transformation researchers. i've long been focused on growth and alternative as the girl's student subjects to the ecological transformation won't succeed, was further growth says tremendous that people the screen growth isn't just solution to the climate crisis management site. it says the mid seventies, at least it's been claim that economic growth can be the couple from environmental impact. but that hasn't happened yet. and there is little evidence to suggest it'll take place to a sufficient extent. also in the time that remains most and does have lives in site here, there pondering different ways to do business. the university of transport the course transformation research then being the interest of what we're

basically seeing the most the promises were made regarding efficiency gains or a greeting process through technology games have been don't go far enough. nice all sky schmidt says that like almost all industrialized countries, germany would need another 220 years of the current rate to obtain climate neutrality under this in this dispute. so speed is one pit stop. we all know this is far too late in that by then. economy is like germany's will have exceeded their c o 2 budget many times over. in principle, we can imagine that trying to v carbonized and growing economy is like trying to go down an escalator that's constantly going off. what types of the india had come on and or not, we can get the studies show, then industrialized countries should actually be cleaning up their act 10 times

faster than they have been. critics believe this is impossible with even more growth because generating sufficient green energy as possible contraction is the only solution they say this is yeah, it is disconnected. it's a lot and fee fee that it's been calculated how many wind turbines would be needed by chosen cooper alone? well, i'm start and that's just $1.00 to steal plans decision. so you want to be able to do that across the board for the entire economy. one of these as far as i'm concerned, it's absolutely clear that it will come down to doing without and fees of the either that will be forced by the climate crisis the or will be smart enough to do it in advance liability for his support from the bottom was one that it has to be separated from the political debate. even individuals keen to make a personal cutbacks to definitely go ahead and tyson, such a choice can only be applauded by that program and citizens wheels great power here . i don't know. it's as if most people suddenly decide to eat less meat doesn't

want to have an incredible impact on our carbon footprint or to adults what else or if people want to plan vacations with like flying fine then kind of thing into the same team. i just warrant against turning it into a political program that's simply because that would start resistance and do that to failure once again, and need to shut down and placed in our experiment, continues living with less. is it possible? and would it be that bad? the vacation without air travel, that's today's task for claudia and louisa. they want to go to portugal. news we need to get to the nova 2925 kilometers to mid. i'm going to 9. i was by come with public transport, casting it in 12366 changes. i never get that. it's not at all easy to find out how to get there and i didn't come to you about this. and so for me, dressed into paris and from paris to border and now we've got to get from bordo to

madrid that should work here. and it's like fulton in or not as of the, i don't know. so according to this, those genies that runs back to take at least 23 days. and then unless you can plan a 3 week holiday time, it's not, was that i guess it's just, yeah. and you know, kinda, you know, the 3 days there and 3 days back a few times if you've got to loads of time and you can be relaxed about it. and then i think it's a great way to travel, isn't i? but that's because i can only take 2 weeks holiday at a time. i can use this sort of trip isn't an option for me. translation size, and so it's not possible. oh, let's get the living like this is really very satisfying. is it? what was the opposite? what do you have to realize is that often individuals are trapped in work structures and that they don't have the option to say have to keep boss. i'm only

doing a 30 hour week now. i don't take a pay cut or i don't want my full salary. that'd be even better. of course the best isn't he's i'm looking brockman, i'm he sociology professor. my work is focused on happiness. visits on the else tire goes also part of larger structures and they can strain and in mid life in particular, you have a lot of obligations to this. so your hands are off and tightened on off to him the go button. but at what point are we content? does wellbeing always require more and more of everything? this is a piece of the go back to me. the flag or this is less growth, really the question or is different growth perhaps the better idea top it's a question that's also been addressed in happiness research. we need an alternative gauge and actually sent to human contentment or happiness. a very good gauge because it's something that people can judge for themselves of school today. but what time con mosley and also on the owners of restaurant

kink found their happiness for them? prosperity has a lot to do with feeling well hey, good to see. i'm saying that yeah, yes, great, the stroke line, we're not gonna mess but little to do with growth. in their past roles, there was rarely time to carefully select products directly from the farmer. the fix my model to keep growing next. minimize the question of the size more stores, more restaurants, more acceptance or internally invite on. how can we improve what we do in our communication, social and moral responsibility for the guess where we are in the sector, it'd be difficult to run another 10 business days in the same way. and in some of the, or the guy that finishes growth is in any case quite different than the socially accepted

norm of the business. so if i can ask myself, i guess what am i actually doing here? why am i doing this? a tall bookcase? me a bed in the morning, then to bed at night. that's the point. because if i'm making progress there, then i'd say that for me to pass more meaningful than a growth is surely monetary. i'm going to taylor next to most of these a good time for yourself. we also have to break the thought patterns we've been taught on this. and we haven't yet learned to say that we defined prosperity, which different ways model, unless definitive. and they took a leap of space contrary to broad economic theory, which focuses on one clear goals, growth. after all, the economy has a benchmark, the gross domestic product. i figure that packs a punch. it measures the sum of all goods and services produced in an economy, but the gdp doesn't register the usefulness for sustainability of

a service. no matter whether i buy an s u v or sell hadnot and sweaters. the main thing is, money is moved on a 100000 square kilometer island and the cold north atlantic. they've devised and you cannot make formula for themselves wellbeing and quality of life instead of a blind faith in growth. it was their response to crisis. 2008, the international financial crash rocks. the nation i sense financial sector was in ruins. the the countries 3 major banks went fast within a week. the nation's currency plummeted. the thousands of icelanders were drowning in debt and lost their homes. thousands lost

their jobs, the result protest outside parliament and a call for new elections. at the time thor, seek 1st and was head of a large insurance company and a top earner. but he too was caught up and the financial crash. the, i think in many ways it was uh, of course, a crisis for me as well. so i have to, i would like to re live that period again. but at least what i, what i found out this, that we need to continue and need to look back to some of the ideas that i had and figured out what the could be, where i could really have uh, a stand. so it was uh, a time of sort of like, uh, uh, a receipt getting my, my, uh, my existence, in many ways, 6,

your son found the ocean cluster in 2011, bringing together tech companies and the fisheries industry. the idea to use as much of the fish as possible good for value creation and the environment in the wake of the crisis. iceland has re organized itself and we defined its perception of economic success. for example, more attention is now being paid to health and environmental factors of clicks for darcia used to manage a large company. now she runs a small store. thank goodness she says, i can keep it balance and just any way i like because it's much in smaller business, i control it and that's the issue. it's much less pressure, much less stress. she's lost nothing through her decision but gained a great deal. for example,

time and the willingness to use it. i love being and the nature you get more complex to, to the earth. so to the ground, being close to nature. and the horses as they say in iceland, quality of life is also part of prosperity, not just money, just like clean air and social cohesion. we are also rather closely connected with our families and with friends, with small nation, people know people. and yeah, i think that's one part of it. this the close and nice of people between people, the and 2019 the wellbeing economy was introduced as a basic political program. in iceland,

the nation hasn't turned its back on economic growth altogether. but now whether something has a price tag isn't all that matters. the the wellbeing economy focuses on other issues. just economic growth, which says, well, most nations are focusing on and the un collect states afford. but with a growing economy, that doesn't mean the miles of nature or people have any sort of well being. my name is christine mom. i like most of this. i'm a professor in the department of the sciences at the university of ice storm. she played a key role in iceland, economic policy shift. it's important to think about the

economy in a different way on economy, which is for people employment. and not just for up upkeep, can choose to sell and that you're actually using more than more resources selling more and more stuff and people collecting what they actually don't really need. 139 indicators have since serve as a political basis, guiding decisions on the use of public funds. so all investments need to be shifted to to be good for, for people on planet. and last is very important. so basically the wellbeing coach, calling on me thinking is about re purpose and the economy the

doing business, but differently. price alone doesn't make us happy. that's the idea. perhaps a model for germany to germany has one of the most important economies in the world . this is both an opportunity and a challenge and the battle against climate collapse. as a society, we must do something each and every one of us can do something. endless. the life of certainly changed, at least for the duration of our experiment. this taking last is school by bike. i think this is good. yes exactly. we can keep doing that. i'm on the launch rough condition association. i already know the landscape because we always take the same route by car as has been. it is just a bit boring to sit in the car all the time and look at boring scenery long by the elantra funds from. you guys have some type of skills that come i use of media and

available online media, media inputs and it makes you realize that these days are in need to be online or is this on the account manager every day life was hoping online whether it's for school or just for fun, but i thought so in the long run, so it doesn't work for me. so i'll get dismissed for 2 weeks. the little bit skis have tried going without and voluntarily set themselves limitations. as for me, so. so okay. i think it's okay, i'd be happy to shop more at the organic store, and in any case, i'm the kind of person who likes to have more time for things. but in my view, the issue here is you just can't make the time of us as a, in a safe. and in general, i think it's really nice of a but time to mom's shift fast paced, life time zone from that to that, to them up from that not done of that certainly possible by calm down was much more and then the food has to be coped quickly it has to happen fast and it's supposed

to be honest and i don't know how that would work in our everyday life. realistic is that the results of the experiment? it's doable. partly it's just a bit tricky with the offline entertainment's yeah, but i managed it to us by 2 days when something at least the more or less the definitive question for the future, the prosperity was out, gross or only with gross and can get to start centrally it's about differentiating between useful growth and less useful growth and having a social debate about that to have been because if we don't manage to build a claimant neutral system in which we can grow economically and then the planet is

doomed. being a longer term growth makes it easier to mitigate the distribution conflicts that can arise in a society and to get the take grows, it's easier to share then if it remains the same sign of vice cost life and one's act in a worse case scenario where we're giving up about 50 percent of our economic output . we'd still be as rich as the west. germans were in 1978. and as anyone around at the time will tell you, we were just as happy then as we are now. and it was a good life to sleep. i'm still keeping the whole box. we will turn around and put this on the back of puff on the

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