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why do we need to put a stress stop cons cream for help find beyond says get smaller on dw science outtake talk channel the a world climate conference that's being held in baku of all places. the capital of us are by john, the authoritarian oil and gas producer. the goals are to reduce c o 2 emissions and distribute climate costs more fairly. climate issues are increasingly taking a back seat due to war and migration will also show you lots of positive things that are happening, such as the construction of a hydrogen network or more efficient batteries. but why is land being stolen for wind farms could a strength and climate protection and how can we improve food production? everything for the climate today. on may
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the may look like regular buses, but these run on hydrogen in front. but on mine, how do you, j? but rock drives, one of 23 buses, powered by this alternative fuel on a single tank, just like with diesel. she can cover 400 kilometers and dr. last entire day was 1st, it's definitely environmentally friendly. second, it's very quiet. compared to diesel plus a drives really well and it's very comfortable. i just think it's great that i'm the name was which was i thought play on the default of any passengers ever commented back option. all yes, a few. they didn't even realize the bus was running. the engine is so quiet. your some even asked me, are you going to start the bus? and i told them it's already running to my spot in the middle of the month of john at the, in the city of bus depot. the dean is company's ever fuel has installed
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a hydrogen filling station. apparently the hydrogen used is great coming from industrial waste from a nearby factory. however, in the future, the plan is to switch to green hydrogen process office fillings. hydrogen is an interesting option for us, at least as a transitional technology fire. it offers longer ranges than battery powered vehicles can currently provide. we'll see how that develops on the plus. it doesn't require the extensive charging infrastructure that batteries need to your phone to understand the types of some kind of goals, alada in personal to where the high synergy facility is located in fred or we see a denmark new or large refinery. this is where the green hydrogen for frankfurt will come from. final preparations are underway, starting in 2025. the facility will produce enough hydrogen to generate $300.00 megawatts of energy with plans to scale up further. the estimate the energy required for one kilogram of hydrogen to be between 45 and 65 kilowatt hours,
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with most of it coming from renewable sources. we uh, responding to the european requests to really make a green sense for us and rapidly. one of the key ingredients in the re power e u. european strategy. to use renewable, produced higher than for transport and for into, for some industrial plants like the nearby refinery can be supplied directly by ever fuel. for other customers like the bus station in frankfurt, hydrogen still needs to be delivered by truck. however, under the re power e u strategy, this will change in the coming years, the e u. n. 33 energy infrastructure operators plan to re purpose sections of existing natural gas pipelines and to build new connections, overland, and underwater. this will primarily supply central in southern europe with renewable energy from northern europe. must stay in the mac jones of norm denmark
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and norway have a lot of hydro power among other resources. these can be directly harness to support the hydrogen infrastructure. when this comes off to bonus and their new energy producing countries, germany doesn't have that. so our approach is different. this has to have the guns and then the obviously in further ratio, some final permits are still pending. and a few more hurdles remain. our ambition and strategy i'm place on the business level for the trend into production of green item is more expensive than production of gray height. and so the subsidy schemes and the certificates and schemes that needs to be in place to make it attractive for my customers. to buy green items in frankfurt, they're also eagerly awaiting the start of reading hydrogen production in denmark. we know that there shall nitrogen would be the icing on the cake for vehicles
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already running on alternative fuels. for electric vehicles, the electricity also has to be green and the same should apply the hydrogen. that's when it really contributes to the energy transition. the not only in frankfurt, but across europe. cities are waiting in anticipation. they hope large scale green heights as in production will begin to helping cities like frankfurt to go through the greek there are many races that harm the climate. there's less so, and then there's the competition between the alternatives, like between hydrogen and electric engines for trucks. there's also fears, competition between countries like who built the best batteries, because there's still a lot of room for improvement, especially in terms of range. china is leading, but could a german company potentially win a game
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changer could germany traditionally behind and battery development produced the 1st mass produced solid state battery? this is the holy grail and the battery world. a solid state battery barely ages does indeed critical raw materials like cobalt and offers better performance. but there's fierce competition from china, which is also working on this technology is installed, obviously, startups in america, in europe, but also established players in asia all working on the technology. all of which i'm forcing the german solid state battery is still made by hands, but the start of high performance battery is continuing to refine its models. the technology has now advanced to the point where mass production could start and the 1st licenses have already been sold until about to the take. our battery technology is designed to that starting with the module of about 1.3 kilowatt hours. we can scale up as needed from home storage to industrial scale storage. we see
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a wide range of applications, especially in stationary energy application instruct. so me, i'm going to say them stationary energy storage systems like these, which store electricity are becoming increasingly important. many countries rely on wind and solar power, but as we know, these sources aren't always available to energy storage to solution for a steady supply and is expected to become a multi 1000000000 euro industry in switzerland, somewhere up in the mountains. and one of the german start ups, business partners plans to build the 1st factory for solid state battery protection . but they still need to raise the necessary 80000000 euros teenagers and all that . and the chinese are also working on solid state batteries. charlie's recently, the chinese government launched a funding program with over 800000000 euro. so because i'm from a um is leaving google from china control 70 percent of the global battery market. they have the most money to push the mass production of solid state batteries
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forward. so why is the industry so focused on this technology? and the conventional battery ions move from the negative to the positive pole and back generating electricity. the ions move to a liquid, but over time deposits form on the polls. due to chemical reactions, reducing the batteries performance. in a solid state battery, a solid material replaces the liquid, allowing the ions to travel between the poles. the advantage of no deposits for so the solid state battery could theoretically last for decades. germany has an edge. they inject a liquid into the battery that part and since completing the solid state battery, this process makes potential mass production much easier. we produce them just like conventional lithium ion battery is today and half, and that's what sets us apart from other solid state batteries which require the
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material to be reformed outside the battery shaft in this other competitors in solid state battery development, have to test completely new production methods, which continually delays mass production that's kind of the racist. still open it remains exciting. a can a small german start up with just 5000000 euros of funding. compete against the multi 1000000000 euro companies in asia? you think of yourself times out to them. i think the market is huge and growing rapidly, so we're dealing with the demand driven market and i think what gets produced will be needed. that's why i'm convinced of there's room for many providers and it stops can call them fixed same field. i'm be talking, however, the german solid state battery has a disadvantage. it stores less energy compared to competing technologies, making it less suitable for future electric vehicles. occasion manufacturers are targeting
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a range of 1000 kilometers with their solid state batteries that aren't quite there yet. even so the title of 1st mass produced a solid state battery, might just go to germany. likely by 2026. do you enjoy the sound of wind turbines? it might have originated in china, which currently dominates in wind power. china is building the most wind farms, not only in china itself, but also in the balkans as a springboard to europe in bosnia and herzegovina. land was apparently the mingling expropriated it's no big scandal. we explain in detail as a child, an entre if could age from leave know bosnia and herzegovina herded cheap with his father in these hills. now without his knowledge or consent, a chinese company is built
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a wind farm here worth around 160000000 euro. so to get them done one morning i went outside and saw an excavator digging up my field bug. when i approached it, a chinese construction manager made it clear what am i using as phone said, i had no business there and that i needed to leave. so you want me to go, what does this mean be to now $73.00, the retired farmer explains how it all began. an influential politician, markovich secured a wind farm concession from local authorities for just a few 100 yours. this concession was later sold to a chinese company for millions, all without even could be just knowledge key documents approving use ownership of since vanished,
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leaving him without any current deeds to the property. or what contests here that will cause issue markovich got the concession and 2007. it'd be administered to the he was a minister in the district government able to, to be in the school. and his plan was to build 12 turbines. it will probably be the next to being horses that were once raised by villagers still roam free in greece near the wind farm. many residents, including abramivitch, his family, left to leave no over 30 years ago for work abroad, leaving behind their homes and land. now summer returning, renovating their properties and reclaiming their land easily check, you know, i'm a pension or you know, a bosnian retiree was supposed to get paid for you and your family. now i have to
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fight with the so it is to get my land back several hours to go to the 3rd floor. a, up to the chinese wind farm company, headquartered in san diego, declined to comment on camera in an email based stated, they relied on bus me and documents that confirmed the concessions legality. and claimed there were no unresolved ownership issues. the east could each with the help of his lawyer is pursuing legal action to prove is ownership is lawyer is gathering evidence from archives to build the case. what we saw was for much, you know, somebody, they could have easily checked this. it really wouldn't have been all that hard deal as industry fusion or what are the they could have check one of the land registry to sort of the t or hired an expert to confirm who owns the land to
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consist of all of this property within the wind farm area, so that rarity, when i get to chinese wind energy companies have been aggressively expanding into the european market. under cutting european competitors by significant margins. thanks to state subsidies. this is evident to not only in bosnia but also in neighboring croatia. one part is an economic issue of over capacity in china and the communist party is encouraging chinese companies to, to move out into the world to move production into the world. it's also part of chinese expansion into your they want to have stronger influence politically and economically into european union. but they know that one of the jumping boards, so to say, for their insulins and efforts into the european union is the western mulkins. the b u has taken notice under or so the fund alliance leadership, the e u,
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a scrutinizing chinese wind farms investigating whether states subsidies are giving them an unfair advantage over european competitors. lobbyist gordon, that with every new wind farm, china tightens its grip on europe's energy supply. on the modem, wind turbines, uh, around 300 sensors on the different components of the turbine, which uh, giving information to the wind from, oh no, not the right to. and to the, to buy manufacturer about the performance and many people in your say, you know, do we want to give that power to entities outside of you to control the functioning of wind turbines. but in the village of live, no such global concerns seem far removed. retiree if could,
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which doesn't expect the wind farm to be dismantled, but he is determined to fight for fair compensation. the or i just want them to contact me or what's done is done. and they called best, but i want them to come forward so that we can reach an agreement. so let's get this total. she lives on the willy retiree, be able to assert his rights against the 160000000 euro project. the case will help determine how much of property rights where it's in bosnia and herzegovina. climate protection has always been controversial, politically, too expensive to synchronizing, to unfairly distributed. and despite all of the climate conferences,
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global c o 2 emissions continue to rise. why don't we let a i make the difficult decisions? can a, i save the climate, the lawn mower stops, the car won't go. factories grinds to a halt. that could happen if he decides what's climate friendly and would isn't. as long as it does what artificial intelligence does best calculate everything? exactly. yeah, i could react to c o 2 emissions in real time, for example, by stopping cars when air quality drops. how would that work? a i could use data contained in households, appliances, like coffee makers, and dishwasher's to measure c o 2 emissions. when emissions dropped below a pre determined limit, everything starts working again. you can even ask a guy how much longer the dishwasher will be on
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a. i could also manage other environmental problems like the rowing mountains of garbage and textile waste. energy production would benefit as well. the advantage. everything would be based on hard data taking climate action out the hands of government, the but that would be the disadvantages to a i would have to collect a mentor, amounts of our data, threatening personal privacy. i don't know now and to process all that data itself would require huge amounts of energy and that would increase c o 2 emissions. dramatic digital systems and data centers already consume 4 percent of the world's electricity. that number rises to each percent when we include all of our devices. hey, i would increase that many times over. but even if there were big advancements in green a i, there would still be a problem. for a i just saves the climate. every country on earth would have to participate,
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and that would bring this back to politics. the food production also contributed significantly to climate change. fields are slashed and burned to produce animal feed. cows that in climate damaging the same or kept them feed lots to meet the huge demand for cheap, for example. but all of this could come from a lab and be more climate friendly, creamy canada that hasn't use milk from a cow slow to free steaks and chicken breast grown from selves changing for it is always like multi layered in a sense because it's so deeply ingrained in our culture and what we are, some countries and us states of even preemptively band concert a could phase out traditional agriculture. but that's kind of the point. the livestock industry accounts for fairly large share all the worlds greenhouse gas
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emissions. like going products could put us on the road to redemption, but how they made and when will they actually hit f supermarket shelves? there's coach inmate growing from animal cells. these riley from alpha say that base stakes are close to being rolled out. yes, i'll put yeah, so the product is ready to go into the quality and level of the sensory properties in the taste of labor and texture is very high to the very high displace fomo is as modern and trendy as you'd expect from the bowl and start up full of his focus on creating proteins which mimic way and use that in a traditional cheese making process. the taste test is coming up the 1st let's dive into why this quest to find alternatives exist in the 1st place. just how much the livestock industry contributes to climate warming. greenhouse gases depends on who you ask, the you and food and agriculture organizations. most recent reports started 12
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percent, but other studies suggest figures as high as 20 percent. whatever the number of climate scientists can see that may say an emissions particularly concerning that can be 80 times more harmful in terms of hating the atmosphere, then c o 2. and let's talk a counselor about 30 percent of the world, maintained emissions, largely through cal books. the for our station land and water use and less talk said also i major concerns. it makes more sense to broad use plans and it's easy to directly then to feed into that mode. an early study by oxford university in 2011 reported cultivated may could produce up to 96 percent fuel greenhouse gas emissions. then lots stuck, thanks to using less land was in phase, but the numbers here also contested. some studies claim cultivated meat and dairy will need to be run on renewable energy sources. if they are to retain that lower
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emissions. to come closer to actual dairy full the use is what's called precision fermentation. the evolution of the process of dating back thousands of years. they take co g, a type of funding which is use a lot in japanese because they feed and cement it to create a protein similar to way and then turn it into cheese. the company also plans on using an animal free casing protein, but that 1st needs a you approved the product like cheese where, you know, it is already a process product when you start with milk. and that there is a fermentation process already involved in the regular production of the product there. i think it's easier to say, hey, this just another for mentation step before that and to kind of get people to can, to convert in that sense. maybe we should just dig straight in and say, let's do it. we have a great feder cheese. so this one, i'd say the, the texture is a little bit still locked away from luck. what you expect from the federal,
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you know, that the taste plus the salting us and everything it's, it's really to rather says it will initially be 10 to 20 percent more expensive than mid range chase. so we're still talking luxury prices for most people, but it's not outrageously expensive either. and right, the claims fullness cheese will eventually sell, but cheaper than traditional dairy. fermentation is just more efficient with resources than in and much more efficient actually the question of the cost and the price pretty much is only a factor. gail. all right, that's the cheap. but what about that highly sought off the stake, but there are quite a few companies out there working on coaching mates from base to chicken to fish to flaw gra alfonze is just one of the handful that already have approval to sell their life. go and meet in that case, in israel, the company said they will roll out within the next year, but admitted it will be a luxury item to begin with. so the in high end restaurants at
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a price similar to premium range based ignite, they might take 10 years to get to the main stream market. it won't happen overnight, just because it takes time to build production capacity to drive the costs down to build a supply chain. this a bunch of studies showed custom is a still skeptical about how this alternative mate is made. alice thumbs say they are following the same basic principles of segmentation. only they start with animal cells, fee to nurture them in a buyer reactor, until they replicate only the edible parts of animals. we do it, animal cells on a mid product used to be product, so it's the same cells. sense the same ation time honored cell cultivation text me any time when we just merge the to, to make a new combination to make the cells we use are not genetically engineered to could engineer italy's parliament moved to ban the production sale. oh,
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import of cultivated meat and animal feed. in 2023. the us states of florida and alabama followed suit with their own bands in 2024. i love that they've been that because that shows it's real. why would you find something that you don't believe it's going to be come relevant in the marketplace? so it's, it's also a great signal. i think that said like the big need is really concerned with it and forming. nobody's really concerned about that. the reasoning from politicians is that traditional agriculture has to be protected for speaking with that the traditional barry and farming industry to, to grow proteins in the, in a, in a fermentation tag gives you produce these products unique nutrients. nutrients are coming from our field. so you will always have to, you know, traditional farming as you know, it, the market for these animal free alternatives is still very small. but if they can convince consumers, taste buds and bank balances more people may jump on board,
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which can only be good news for the world's climate. that's it for this week's edition of me, where it's all about the climate. to save it, meaning if you're buying and a fair approach, otherwise it's up to a i the
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