a global. so listen to a whole lot of silence problems to see if the care is subscribe to those channels. every friday. subscribe to plan is a the, this is the that'd be news africa coming up on the program. how to, sol? nigeria is called conundrum. the government has a reform plan for the livestock states, which has one of the world's largest kind of populations, but they're not producing enough to supply local market or provide and living for her this niger is 20000000 pounds. i'm mostly owed by no magic tool. i need hudson, their way of life would have to change if the government gets its way. but can they adapt or hear from the herdsman national lead up? plus, using visa to address format and tragedy the

. we have a report from the list of criterias festival inputs unified with performance is helping displace people field. the paint, the hello, i'm christine. when do i? it's good to have your company. can nigeria become a cow superpower? will back in july, president bullets, you know, bull announced a new live stock development ministry. his government is planning to re position tassel rearing. as a critical section, he's been holding consultations with industry stakeholders. and traditional root is at the presidential village in a. bu jeff now a presidential committee on life, stuff or phone has been tossed with look to into the issue till do outlined the

program. and summarize the solution that the body is suggesting. the country of over 200000000 people. i cannot size. how i choose, they won't find so many in the classroom. i be our shad mission is clear. we em drums from the labs stoke from its core. and so please in some of that into a thriving go my cell as the industrial life. oh, the develop it's not jerry is home to of a 20000000 pals. they are mostly owned by lenny hood as it has the full largest capital population in africa and rearing livestock provides a livelihood for a 3rd of nigeria as population. not an idea is very market is valued at one and

a half $1000000000.00, but despite its size, almost 90 percent of local demand is mit through inputs. abdul rahman of drawers left from the nigerian state govern is for him supported the proposed reform. taking this. we spend billions really important data products. if i continue to room will continue to produce one to to milk, a consul. if we make them say to tree, do we can to produce as much as 201520 tests for the house of great like to book with a brief background produce as much as 56 meters. but because we're not a go to your sites, africa on the we're going to have high there production. you see that the account leaves like the class. it took me to the room about between the 2 departments and other than each drink and sleep. but was the room from car no more

to or tough? i'm for the time to get there. then they're going to give you a new meal. the coach, a of the presidential livestock reforms committee outlined what he says is a positive effects of the proposed reforms. significantly, reform in a position in the livestock sector would also help us to mitigate the put in the other conflicts between from us on the heart. this which how the government, the set top was negative consequences for peaceful. ready existence pointing it to relations. i'm beneficial production these activities. so with this, this, all these nigeria is castle hood is as it turns out, some of them are not to fall from the state house with that high level meeting to place. but urban development, climate change and violence of rural areas are making it increasingly difficult for

them to find enough grazing land will be speaking to a representative of the casual rate is association in the moment. but 1st, the deputies funding for char reports from the nigerian capsule parts of counts, roaming the streets may be a familiar sight in pastoralists, areas of africa, but not in cities like hearing about you. of the search for green grass in suburbia is frustrating for everyone. currently it's easier to get her all done for that in a call. look over here, all these calls crossing the road, blocking the traffic. and it seems like nobody's taking the initiative to bring them to a better place. who are doors raising their cattle in urban areas because they were driven out of their traditional nomadic pastor trap between climate change and organization. first, may not allow me to spend says spend,

it's are active in rural areas in the woods days bonded to do political sometimes that can not be to us. so that is why we are no child so good that side because of insecurity to finding, grazing, and water for his animals is a daily struggle for her. it's been like all i mean, he walks for hours, often i don't busy highways to the annoyance of other road users. i'm not happy while i'm in the home seems to beaumont, i think the government should do something about it because that most of us, the requesting the they should be in a rush or something. the government wants to council here in one of for grazing reserves outside of boucher. but the head of curious cattle of breeders association says the plan is not working for the traditionally nomadic full on the herders. so what this means in this basic sense, what uh, and pasta,

this is what and how about what sort of is that why, why then the trans kidnappings are major problems that we can own entity, reserved with armed guards. it's not safe for her doors or their hertz. our lives it has been happening is 2014. to day to day to day we are talking of losing off a sort of list within about $1000000.00 calls. i said examples of the ceiling and due to activity, so can now pause from a high the conflict is due to also made it impossible for the past sort, at least to stay the full on the hard or say the government has failed. they want to harness the potential of their hurts for all, i mean action cannot come soon. you know. he's counts are weak and hungry. sometimes because of no food, no glasses. yeah, choked july loan o please me. sometimes it's getting cold. i don't even use today.

this one day, he's remaining house only produce lists or of milk each a day. that's not enough to insure his family survival. so this is my business. this is what i know. so make me want so he's become selling some of his animals. the profit ensures that his family can eat again, but in the long run, it's a move that will destroy his livelihood. and to talk more on the nigerian government's plan to boast of the livestock sick that is by boseman gills out of my he was in the reports you just so he is president of the casual rate is association of niger. welcome to dw and use africa. we have just seen in our reports, one who is struggling to feed his calls. he's told us he's now sending some of them because he's not burning enough from them. now subsistence cattle farming has been

the way of life for the full. i knew who you represent president to both say is it is no long that sustainable is he rides when we're quite today and that's all. thank you for having me. um, when was it that in detail in this we have in the country like that in the country without any fees? uh absolutely becoming bit difficult for the cut. so how does uh to stay in the business? uh, because the reason it is no longer that it bundles, then if it is that uh set aside for gonna have in not been maintained appropriately. it did good as that because can zoom on of that. what is the there and adults linkages to the videos that is ads where they cut the loan follow up clinic i that his absence had been blocked. um,

maybe due to increase in the population that i bought, i bought a sublease in minutes of new religious towns and cities. uh so those rules i no longer uh, what couple 40 he had the so called photo is the security problem we have in the country today. it is becoming up so mentally difficult for the cut. so how does to go on was that this, that a way of category been in the country? so, so the government is now is, is proposing a commercial model we're causal, kept in, in branches, that'll americanized. and waveform is, can brute can produce at commercial scale. so not roaming, as they currently are seeking for places to graze. do you think that the store, unless husbands that you were present, could adapt to this model could become commercial kettle farm is not uh, not in the immediate future. you know,

they cut to but the best we have in the country. uh. they for 95 percent. uh, actually in the country you the on the on i see what men 5 percent capital in the country on their own. so this is a category based school practice in putting me to a system of i know my husband that is in heavy debt from the 4 of us because there was no attempt to buy any of the 1st items, spaces to good sites more than those sites for them to understand how valuable is the business for them so that today doing it as a way of life. i see a source of livelihood indeed. so this and that way as only option they know to do for the cost was i buy a for them also to somebody because the bible defense $1.00 because somebody about so you see because of this, this is not a practice. uh, m, as in new, come in in it, it has to be

a gradual process. is that something that they can embrace immediately? because uh that the app like you latitudes, have to be taken into supervision before you come up with a model of sets element that can uh, i know both of them transform from this or this. and i, system for the nice system of i'm of has been doing it has to be a gradual process for us. so i tend to make a nice a system of animal husbandry, but we can start somewhere now. and by setting, i mean, we can come up with a model of the settlement, whether it is an inch or whatever we can come up with and without upsetting them. and that kind of suited to take to the attitude of this was on our list because to them this system up on was had been, do they practice is a way of life to them. there been consultations with the government on how to help

the live stop 6 that are you satisfied with what you've been hearing? what you see? this is the 1st time we haven't indicated that the kids administrator for that purpose. this is what we have been. yeah, i mean for, for the kids, because of the neglect that the lives so suspect that had suffered all by the, as you see the, the be and that they are going to cut into minutes of the balance is last. say it's not a well i don't pick between the me and the last so subset that is highly low cited on a good code to neglect input to the device. so stuff like that. so was the comparison or the minutes, you know, we now see that more attention would be given the less of suspect uh to, to, to the extent that the government come out to be the. and then once what is involved in deluxe still valid 10 we have in the country, of course today, and i do. and, and they did that, that has all, by 20000000 uh,

a population of the cattle in the country when by the 1991 lives. so says that because the last time it also says that was one data in this country was in 1992, i saw a way of by that's the set. this is we now have a little by 2 into 1000000 colors. have been at this number. if you quintavia as the most of the neighboring countries that uh so uh that i said i didn't, i didn't realize that that did. yeah. has a lead that lives. so progressive populations that most of these uh, neighboring countries. but because of the neglect, then that area is the most upset. that stuff was you. why didn't realize is that the, the people that meant to print the contribution of both countries, that alpha list i realize to population the data is high, then what i did out of us through the economy. you will realize that in those countries the, because the mr. photo companies are less of do the economies of those countries have and just from set it up to 50 percent?

well in that did that was the light light that lives. so population this, your contribution doesn't exceed more than 10 percent. it does around 10 percent because of the neglect of the subsets as well, with the coming of the ministry. and now we see the government has now said the states for the uh and it was what it says. it was in the subset that to be taxed to do for this, for the benefit of the economy. i'm for the benefit of the less to put these in as all this is really a wind coming development. so we feel highly impressed and we feel presented putting these 2 minutes of plays in for given us immunization for the 1st time. at least for the last, the subset, the, the types they tell us what test says to be tough to do for us. right, that's by that was mine and gale's, i'm a president of the kettle readers association of nigeria. thank you.

sounds a lot. a measure is designated livestock develop, administer any more time i how is an experienced kettle farmer? his state of the art raunch in kaduna is run in arrangement with scandinavian dairy giant are taking us into the scope of him from 2019. i've been so happy i've been so fulfilled by more than that. i'm happy for you for the republic of an idea on a way kind of you know what to do going forward. but i will see a huge robust of this issue, a lot of some of this upcoming funds in the country. you said you put the middle on his fucking our jobs and i'm profits. the minute can be processed. yeah. because couple people up here for the benefit of the country and to get another perspective on the nigeria and government's plans to boast of the livestock safety. we've invited dr. chica issue on to the program. she is an explosion,

african development and policy studies. her work centers around promoting apple tis indigenous knowledge and development. welcome to ad d w. so niger once to develop the livestock fixed that into one that can address food and security and also contributes to growing the economy. you've warned, against using a wisdom model to achieve this. what do you mean by that? thank you for helping me on the program or sees africa. it was quite nice. my job being part of the continental has been an emphasis on a weston model development. and what we find today is that in some cases the west is moving away from that development model and such, and for a much more of those 2 levels tended environmental the a. but we find that i pretend countries are still somewhat seated on the

previous development model that the west is looking for ways to leave behind because of the impact the v b. but that's true, but it has had on, on not just the environment but on human beings have been, this is times you cannot, likes talk. we will see a situation where there is gonna be some diversity of title around a lot of next talk. because the west has promoted this idea or a, a particular read or just selection of breach that with you and much more. all right. monitor really? yes. so as we can see, it the, the team of would ministration is saying that either the subsistence model isn't, isn't working. they would like to see a bigger commercial kettle funds to city say do at least agree with this. that the

idea of that herdsman roaming around in the plains with their herds of castle that model is not sustainable. that the country should be in state, encouraging big commercial farms that are more mechanized. so that's a good question that many are asking today. and what we find is that small code agriculture is much more sustainable in the long run than large commercial farming, especially in increases like nigeria, where that, you know, in industry is to be, and that's published after independence, many african confused rushed into industrialization, which huge white color found projects that to the abundant across the continent. and it hasn't changed much from that time. so of course i trace to trying to get electricity to become spends. and how then do we jump into commercial agriculture.

but this is a challenge that is, that affects the whole well it's not just nigeria. i think it's because many in the world, a bundle name agriculture for some commercial n t t. oh wow. wow. you should be a situation where more people should go into every culture, most mobile, the farm as a game to hurt some issue. present is the security change and got more. there needs to be something that more there needs to be. but we had so many that model does not mean embracing commercial agriculture, which or if you ask me, i'm many people who really understand it too. in nigeria, it will be a question of time before again, these commercial ventures full of parts, we have a lot of them lead time across the nation. so i would say i'm promoting most most q nice to quote you will keep you 10 comfortable. 20 kind of will complete community

. you hope this person has 5 called the help that you wonder. i need working great across when done galucci is you find people o d o n e o 5 calls 10 calls every morning the heavy collection center. where do you take the meal and up it stops cold. my won't encourage more young people who are leaving school without any hope of employment to take on life. still coming. well, you got a little communities, keep them those to stuck some, you know, small and future lives. $1220.00 lives pool of neil collection centers or know what they choose to do with it, could be paid, it could be gold, it could be grab it, it could be tricky. but more people going into agriculture would be, the risk comes to that child. and that means colors will agree with at this time, especially considering the industrial industrialization charities that makes you and many other countries across africa fix that is the opposite chica,

it's simple. sharing the insights with us here and dw news, africa much appreciated. thank you. take a thank you. thank you for having me. let's turn to break, you know, 5. so now we live, essentially i live festival is in full swing. it is one of the most important theater gatherings on the continent and increasingly designed to address the tragedies. but people suffer a mom. this is the latest clear, probably festival in book, you know, for so featuring 50 people displaced by conflict and 10 of attacks and the regions of kyle and think go go the re telling the stories. the

to me then the terrors came to our village to kill the men on board. take away the cattle and give the women 3 days to leave the village. you guys there's a lot of pain because a lot of other people were killed. there's none the there, there's who the the direct to say. such the articles are not intended to read traumatized people, but rather to help them here from the pain events at the fall. so my name wasn't necessarily to harvest, suffering and hot break. the addition in the name was precisely to use out to transcend all that the city to celebrate life instead to someone the return of joy, the return of desire. this is for beauty and social ties. if i do have any they do,

do do me. yeah. so, so many participants say the project does help them. it provides a way to put the horrible experiences into words without speaking. boom, down from boston, i feel said i said the most in dark memories, people with the theater group. i forget everything fell across from table to when i'm there. my problems disappear, mom and i feel dizzy at times, but i get back into the game and find myself feeling free again in an hour you come in to me. yeah, well, i'm glad level. i can't hear more about this, how to my, the, i use. i'm sort a little or no from now we'll need to point out them on the show choreographed by jupiter. the title is a combination of don song, m, p, a, to photography, and other organizers that has funds from the way the see that it work. i want to do

this before i got the call from the if i today, i try to come in to work on this project. there was a time when i wanted to bounce it. what was your, given everything the country was going through? just getting pretty tired of me as an altima, i think just might not set a purpose as to more now and it's in my moments of doubt is i mean, what do you, what are they watching or for the family that cost you issue a lot of the 1st day i set foot and kaya, i realized that the work i was doing was important, and necessary with them. images say, mess as simple as you have. but above all of i learned from these people, and i learned that life never stops. despite everything, there are people who, for me, have a lot to teach us about how to get back on our feet. how to stay on our feet and how to, how to remain dignified. and despite everything. medically atalla is still open till november, 2nd, and open to anyone who wants to celebrate that for cause of rich culture in piano.

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