you been may nibble to says blue dies banking, updating the logos these. thank you my phone. cool. let's see in before i can screw up to my village and feel safe. but now we get every n u a go everywhere visit. i used to feel safe because that a lot of me cheapest and i hear that. so i went into the village, most of the places and let's see. ring back, girls. remember that rallying cry, calling for the safe return of 276 school girls who had been kidnapped by vocal around in nigeria. well, that was 10 years ago. and despite campaigns and immense pressure on the government, some people girls are still in captivity to the state. sadly, abductions, have now become a business and especially children and young people are the victim. for today on the 77 percent, we want to look at how people get objected in the 1st place, who is behind these kidnappings and how they can be stopped. stay tuned for us read

to bade from nigeria and also interviews with kidnappers and experts. my name is, let's show, let's dive right into it. i believe you are watching us from somewhere safe and you don't have to worry about someone breaking into your home and taking you away. but in some parts of africa, the threat of being abducted is real. solve africa has the highest number of objections on the continent. meanwhile, in nigeria, school girls are becoming an easy targets, and unfortunately mass kidnappings are happening where it's already difficult for girls to get an education in the 1st place. less than security is one of the reasons why more than $700.00 schools were closed in northern nigeria 2 years ago. so what exactly led to this crisis did enough in inmate julia has dramatically evolved over the last system from religiously motivated up, the options stop profitable enterprise run by criminal guns known as funded the

most famous incidents remains the 2014 up section of 207 to 6 schoolgirls bifocal har. um, however, in the ronald west and central regions, good enough and has become a business for me on monday. kit is displaced by conflicts with farm is up tend to bundle feet, creating a networks of lots school run, some kid, nothing's in 2023 alone for about $3600.00 kids up in square reports at nationwide marked him at national crisis. my judo has a strong security force. so why is it so difficult to tackle this problem? even the political, the really there been to challenge from the drift. detract elements on moon to treat in the go button to treat. yeah, a group of renegade individuals who are challenging disagreements you use so forth

by the state. and they have their reasons where to justify it or not. by 2020 full, the crisis have escalated even near a good job. entails like body who j. n. while, while other residents live in fear, with many lean to the city center is really careful. well, one cannot get enough food to eat, or you have your loved one holds. i'm going to be paid a price that you, i've never seen the life. why i sleepy the night, i don't know with our we see the next the we are you fear. sometimes our business is not booming well because of the security challenges. high pull bits and unemployment rates push many young people into bundle. well, security forces locked the tools to come by them. yes, there is hope. in august 2020 full measure could use this months old mitchell

kidding. up in rain season wesson's phones and other tools on the score. in the course of use the cation of these criminals. the question remains, how can my g a and this crisis well to, and the crisis security forces definitely need to deal with the perpetrators. but kidnappers, who are they and why do they believe it's okay to snatch people from their homes or schools or from the streets? we have an exclusive interview with one can never i was and we thought. ready good to came with adding mass i some people hold it as a profession initially the engaging to read as a formal for the vin. our guy. yeah. i'm a know it as being turned into a profession, a select kind of a, do you the web doctor? people whom the suspect of getting something from that is island without it gives you initially, abduction was done by people who knew the victims and what they could get from them . but it has become widespread because many people migrate to them left the place.

so they go in search of the free, sometimes they have the victims on the highway. and as you go, as i've always use that and they don't care whether those cups of money or not, what they are concerned is run. some must be paid to them as well as it goes through the end of the name of the a lot less. so for i will buy car. this is just a business. but can you imagine what an abduction means for the victims? how do you get back on your feet after spending days, months year's income? tiffany: under the circumstances, i don't even want to imagine on the sad 10 year anniversary of the 2 books school abduction we had the chance to talk to. one of the girls was taken by vocal her. i'm how i took part in our street debate in that bush with my colleague, edith came on the hello and welcome back to the 77 percent st debates this week. we a back in may. julia's capital a buddha,

now 7500. that's the number of reports of keeping up in cases in a period of one year in this country between june 2023 and july 2024 of us to be some very staggering statistics. the and of course behind every forget is a pressing the people who are going to be speaking to us to be trying to figure out why the situation persist in they do. yeah. and what can be done about it? let's start right here with what i know when we talk about kidnapping in a do a, you might go back to the to book goes and you will actually one of them. it's been 10 years since you were abducted. do you mind telling us what happened to you that did at the i in school these people just come on the schools and they just tell us that that the so yes, they just got your 2 d some diesel for 3 years. we spent 3 years for there and we, i just please. well, we have pause and we used to come back to see all our parents. and is that up to us

that we be listening or this then we start skating. and we just say is we start quality and the job, you know, it's been 10 years since the original kidnapping. 7 years since you were released. would you say that you've gotten over the trauma? i wonder if that's even an appropriate question? yes, i'm to scan because as to call me to our campus, he's the vocal honda. sometimes a confused stay at home safe because i'm of the if i hear going, that just should do despite what the government did. and despite towards the international community tried, do you feel that it was enough? you know, it's not you've, i'm to add to them for i'll see if that's do day for 10 is do you think that the government has forgotten about the remaining goals? yes, i seen so it was stuff like you had a very different experience. she was obviously captured by the bulk of around. they

have some very incredible mutants ideologies based on religion. do you know who your cup to is what and what happened to you, wendy? i come back into nice, then i saw someone planned v. my did. so do i way out in black. lots looking like for lisa, but they provide their faces. and what they gotta do um about 18 of them that got in a k 47. so i've been with them for what? 15 days. uh, because uh, investigation is between life and date. and the address actually enough. i found some by 500000000. i said that i don't have it. i don't know if my final release had been the 100000000 debt to equity. it says that the debt looks like money. ok. we dallas know we, i assume you coming back to my pharmacy. i'm really sorry that you both went

through that. but of course, the situation that we're talking about here and they do, yeah, is not unique to these 2. as a matter of fact, let me just see from our audience how many people here knew of someone who was keeping up on news, a friend or a friend of a friend. you know ne julian ok. so you're saying no, ne julian has been unaffected. yeah, but these are 2 very different motivations, right? it would seem like the book of her rom, it's very clear they wanted to form a country where does that disparity come from? when they decided to, in the case of the kidnappers, for us. so they just started lightly as a conflict between hy, this i promise, which is normally during the harvest among the house on i'm on the fly, me. i know it was a house and the full, i knew full audience when not familiar with need to find. uh, the for line. yeah. the hi. this. and the house is a tribe that has been mixed up by religion. okay, so we are clear on who they are and now you're telling me they start to conflict because of grazing lands because of drugs. but how does that then become kidnapping?

when it looked, i became kid, nothing because of the lack of social justice to dakota option among a security by submit the issues of managing the grades and months, they started selling grades and lunch to the promise. so how does have no identity, institutional portion of so on those. okay, so just to i've made to the, let me just pause there because because it's a huge and very complicated history. but i think we get the gist of it. and you've talked about the security forces and their response to that 12 yesterday, when we're talking about kidnapping, you'd expect to find a put a uniform police officer here. we actually had one. and they actually came right up here to a venue. but at the very last minute when they had that it was a debate they chose not to participate. regardless of that, you still depend on the police officers halima and one of your relatives was also keeping up. and i'm just trying to find out as a family when you hear the news, what impact did that have on on you'll find me. it's tries so hard. does pause

the video on the show media. how do a flogging them my treating them in the bush, all of the shots and crying on the nested in the lead off. come up. i said he's given the government's us would. it's that you've the don't come to give them what they want, that they're going to slow to all of them. so how did you eventually get to a system back that mercedes by god degrees, without being any run. so that's good. i don't know. that is between them and the government. i want to come to joshua because we're hearing some very scary things. yeah, yeah. y a people, so there being, why has this problem continued persistently for so long? the bottom line is money. it's a money making venture. so for example, you this, that small undergraduate into a bigger groups and the more the got the victims,

the more money to make nigeria is a cash based economy. now what do you use to pay for run some? well, i would imagine if you could have a kid, napa, not a digital currency. yes. because not keeping up. i want to take money by, by wire, by bank transfer. anything because it'll be a trip so long that this cash in the society, the issue of keep not being is no good any we soon let me hear a few most solutions from the people here. what do you think needs to be done in order for this to become a problem of the past? so that like julia is no longer dealing with this, i see your hand up that was top. payne did. i'm some complete to me because we are all on was witnessing a number of people that are being keyed in the country, so even to keep people tired, no money, no around. so maybe they will have to stop a tell me that cannot be a solution. ok, so you, you think that it's okay for people to get mad just so that the solution can be

found if not. so how much are we going to spend in the paintings? i'm so long. some people you paid on the community. okay. do i see joshua's hands up? i think he wants to respond to this and lucifer. let me come to you 1st. he said, you know what, in order to ease a button on your family, it's may be better if you had been cute. i'm in support of that. that says in fact you people are taking money to this kid now for us, this kid nothing with not. and i'm in new one or a victim into handled by kid. now for us, loved his life. the government should come. i would buy confess, stating that family at least actually lives with a minimum of i police a 5 me live because we have money. uh okay. i have to say, i'm very surprised that you are leaning towards that. uh, how do you my, let me come to you before i finish joshua. to me, what he said is a note to me that also i'm going to give the family will live, bring back the person to kill. it can bring him back as limited time. i was good

enough, but i did. this is into position that that would not come back. but i do money. they will give to my family probably to be able to, to see something to do, to my children. let me, let me, let me come back to what is the person you're saying that you're deal and give the funding to the one. some is the burden of the family that didn't you'll you, you came up to a family or, you know, provide you for your family. but what is the government called to provide for that family? that i believe your, you don't know what government is, do you of the stuff that can be dealt with much and as to when he is go you. i do see a new way to stop this kidnapping footboards lead the government in order with disabilities 6, that is not ready to do the work by step in this uh, get not being remind you that let me, let me close this up with joshua because we are hearing of us me some very radical solutions from 2 people who enjoyed the keep that being in one way or another,

final thoughts for you to say stop payment of run. so it is beyond where it is. because once your, your 5 though your mother or really to just keep now, your sense of judgment is automatically impaired. i expect the government to put words into action to ensure that run some payment is reduced, it cannot be stopped. so we asked what sounded like a very simple question at the beginning of this debate. what is causing the problem of kidnapping? hearing a julia very key effect as elaborated. how can you stop that? not so clear on that much. i would love to hear from you, but for now. thank you all for watching the thank you very much for that fantastic street debate a wave. although i have to say the picture painted is pretty grim. i still wonder whether the abduction prices in nigeria can be stopped. what solutions already out there? well, let's hear what our expert has to say. duct deck up here, a demo c o of beacon security and intelligence base. and nigeria. i'm aware that

previously some govern those one of them we've administered to d a. d. federal level brought together all the articles in they do not approve any tradition or less than letting you community and difficult to dep monday. give them to condition the auto group that you've government for fields. that condition they will make sure no you from among the community join monday groups under the condition of one include the def, monthly and of all of vigilante groups in northern nigeria. yes, i think the 2nd condition with the provision of which i loved unity for the community. and as far as i'm concerned, it's not difficult the month. but my point is the new month, i know why the explanation has not been implemented. it's really because of the, i've sent the political root. so mister demo says that a lack of political will is why people in parts of nigeria are still living in constant fear. well, in kenya, where objections also take place,

it is suspected that elected officials may be behind those crimes. i'm sure you remember the so called jen z protest that took place a few months ago. well, some activists got abducted and their case shows why we need social movements both online and offline, in order to protect people who are brave enough to criticize those in power. every year, hundreds of young canyons adopted or disappear without entries. for the victims, there is no escape. i'm the way so you have to say that you go to this whole issue many believe those tasks that we've protecting them are in fact the ones instigating the tara, of course fans and fans and friends for police official. but many kenyans have had enough of being bullied into submission. if so, wait until is free to delete that kenya and they will be can,

you will be free one day and every other concert, enough time in june, the jersey protest sure came year 3. it's core, police open file and peace. we protest is keeley over 50 people. bill eugene is video griffin, an active as was one of the phones land protest as he shows us. he's safe house where he saw the refuge during this time, pj, and, and dog. she had nestled between 2 apartment blocks for someone to come some good view of a, a n 512 deficiency community. and that's a, that's why i consider these are assistance. but eugene, sense of safety was advised one night stealing from t of as he approached the safe house when the white ca suddenly pulled up for a masked man, jumped out and forced him inside, handcuffed and blindfolded. he received no explanation why or why they were taking him. when the cost stopped, he was dropped into a quote room. oh, as mutant that i live and then or of to to,

to get off my clothes. from then they asked me, who's funding? and and, and, and, and who was that person that sending it to the streets? eugene was forcibly disappeared. a secret imprisonment and torture. many, oh, i rested in public but never taken to a police station or a court of law. all of us like influenza shade, leave abducted in unmatched cars as recorded here on cctv cameras. which $315.00 and forced to disappear. and so since 2019 it is becoming suspend logic. we suspect it's a place operation. if we listen to the stories of people who in for some links of piano do in genesis on the pretty get see is this dies the more desolate and us the see and this way, glad craft. so this guy, there will be a civilian operation, challenged with these accusations,

both the police and the director for public prosecutions refused to comment. for on the van enforce disappearance is a deeply troubling trend of policy. with the end of end stating caea and tara on october 20 canyon, and celebrate much who john de, honoring those who fought for independence. bagley uses this occasion to remember the victims of police brutality as the leader of the free canyon movement, who was fortunately disappeared in all of us. an old lady, least of the high court select into the inspector general of these with imprisonment dogs. these kenya do cross roads. so that 2 options, if you ask me, write me a that we do a couple of initiative, which is that are for them, are we have a popular uprising, which is that felicia, it depends on the reaction of the state. if this step is welcome to open dialogue with the people, then that is the solution of the ones as freakin number. why you didn't survived

his imprisonment after being dumped and left on the side of the road. his dormant, as failed at breaking him together with all the survivors. he's creating a documentary about in judge violence and taja. trying to silence us. we have to have to send a sliver using plans to wait for the upcoming elections to vote for the change. the desperate, really nice fucking jen z. wait that long. those who allegedly abducted and touch at them. austin and paul and have long since abandoned the rules that i don't know about to you. but to me, the sounds a bit depressing and it leaves citizens feeling helpless. but we've learned that

raising awareness about objections is an important action step. and this is not only the duty of active this but also of the media. so what do we need? a free and independent press and by the way, we have a lot of end up reports on the topic on our youtube channel will now travel to kind of a room where brave journalists are being abducted and blackmailed as a weapon to silence them. me kind of rooney and journalist and whistle blow a pull to to was kidnapped off to watching a football match at a nearby cafe unknown men forced him into a call and beat him up, brutally. he says they wanted to kill him. just midway up to the cfo's dead. there was a motorcycle that's working just around the corner. that's when they left and drove all the comments. they were convinced that i was there just before that they told me they had a mission and told me to say my last breath. when you talk and say your last pray i,

you know what i mean? see, suppose i some church is still trying to find out who wanted to kill him so far. no one has been arrested as evidence to documented and published pictures of his injuries. this was not the 1st time he was attacked. budget was the most brutal. he still carries both the physical and emotional scars. mr. moseley sees a trauma for life when i pass the display as i get flushed bucks of the time. why young ladies? even as guy here on the left side of my face, my eyes to suffer from the post traumatic lakehoma. and apart from that injurious, there is also a psychological trauma because you, they ranked 100 and 30th out of 180 countries on the world press freedom index in 2024. count maroon is rated as one of the least read countries. full price world wide, investigative journalists like pull to town,

often suffer from repression by law enforcement. fellow journalist martinez, they'll go, was tortured to death and shoot to himself spent a year behind boss. he already spent 24 months bind boss for a legit defamation. looked at them and they did the same thing to me. they did to martinez if you know how he died, you can imagine this touch i was in when i was found, they took my cold, so it was negative given month to get to miss martinez has to eat his own faces. they took all of his cloth away, it is the same kind of thoughts i went through because i was just like these offices. so files bypassing the, the active shooter continues to search for his attack as he once justice. meanwhile, governmental authorities insist that the country is safe for journalists, but recent events prove otherwise. so we're getting to the end of our show today. it wasn't one of those uplifting and fun episodes. but indeed an important issue that we wanted to shed light on. and even though objections continue happening everyday across africa, we have learned that

a combination of solutions can help sold the crisis. political will security forces that are not corrupt, higher standards of living, a strong civil society and a free and independent press. i'd really like to know what you thought of our show today, so please drop us a comment on youtube. instagram or a tick tock. that's it from me and the whole team. thank you so much for watching. i'll leave you with the phone with the carrier is a very powerful message. mazda is you made by burn a boy by and phoenix time. the people the filter printed all that's left is the grave. and then slide buried, manuel saw that it was

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