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a true story. so this is the view is usually the difficult interview. yes, any people have avoided talking about it for too long just mentioned gabriel. we never even talked about it with our families, the and tried to have a much my father was a lawyer because he didn't tell me until after 1945 that he was unhappy when he

found out that they were expecting a child of assessment, not books about that hitler had just come to power to but it's not. and it says to india, the under must come on the hub. eric, my father could see that the country where he was born jesus london, which he loved deeply to this of all the was lost to jews of a few of them for them. and he certainly didn't want to start a family at that time. if i'm really in, these are totally slippers of what the

situation is gonna be a visa, human stage. one of 2 to his very religious parents were of course, against him. soon he was their favorite son. and imagine how they felt that he didn't want to follow the path they'd seen for him instead of getting hurt. isn't about my name with the interest. and so my mother agreed to convert to judaism viewed or something, and she did. and then they got married last until then. okay, i doubt that the

much faster. that's what gets into. so because my father made him see that it made no sense to run a business during those times. cute. sat around to submit a gauge and said i could, could, you could tell his regular customers felt uncomfortable going to a jewish store, even if he had quality products. the mishap wasn't enough for him to keep going for school. do body could give him hook of this uh, love a mission can you could also give me up despite that's a few of the nicholas, what do i have done to get a bundle with my grand mother then gave up her beautiful apartment, rosie, i still remember the big clock with such a nice chimes or shoes,

lock up there. it's can children have all kinds of memories that you wouldn't imagine would last live, but they do seem completely couldn't do this when it was just a normal middle class home and find cookbook. and he could cells even with him, but this of a c flush that then come that page. and then my mother gave in to the gestapo as pressure to magic. this minute we'll talk to some folks to get supplement, but i was hoping to come to see my father told me they could stop or brought her in a few times to let her know that if she stayed with a jew, she would suffer the same fate as she did say that found to be a perfect, it could be different from what was planned for the jews as it's a $350.00 looking forward to the scene. let's see if she shoot me. she she did so much for me. let me try it on

gabrielle. she made learning religion fun. i see one message and also took me on little trips and excursions for income. i'm happy with me. she was an excellent substitute. might actually be on to them as a supervisor. so as i finished, i'd have for them to with us. let's see. but i noticed we should lead the she was a real lady at the moment back then she always wore a narrow black velvet ribbon around her neck small as some front here. and then i would skip the slip to she was even wearing at the last time i saw her, the domain, it says that this is this, the children from the entire neighborhood used to play in the big front yard of an apartment building across the street girlfriend i'm teen different events, isn't that guns and getting eaten enough with tug?

she helped it's a visa event, just thinking back and see i need to but i don't think they even knew i was jewish or at least it wasn't mentioned. this is good news too much to see it with this lesson. that's a to, there was a really big heavy gauge little's, actually a she had to ski wouldn't open and i thought it was stuck. i'm just going to open it up to, to look at that. this is, it would be, it came through it of us as but the caretaker, who i knew then came up to the gate or the check to come thomas of, of, of, of the store to was active. she said, you know, go home. our children are not allowed to play with a jewish child, and i think that he couldn't been having it. i saw all my friends hanging on the bars of defense looking at me. i'm be so cool. finally hope gets us be hanging. so and then i thought they wanted to play some kind of game with me, but then they went away. he seemed undertaken. and then when i realized that i was alone,

i started crying hysterically and then the phone and went home and sort of k to kick. i'm in my nichols, my grandmother didn't see it and didn't know why i was back the over the most to see me a she had to explain it to me and i was and that's the 1st time i heard the word this would you say i didn't know what it meant to me so that this can be good if you always helps move forward, you should just, i guess i thought that everyone was the same so that there are no differences. that's uh, this estimate, this is, that was the 1st time i realized we were different. and we're seeing differently than the people around me read the mention of a might in some single class due to some of himself at that side on skits like to my father, what do you do? my father was disbarred as an attorney and became what they called a console end to see could only defend jewish people. a huge issue. i mentioned

naturally, it was just a charade of joke. initial jewish people no longer had any rights. you didn't mention the husband thomas from couldn't get a shoot me a the, to the nazi era when the number of laws gave the nazis free reign to terrorized use for them or to hassle them into or for the gustavo, to torture jews in the, anyone who was summoned to the gestapo, didn't know if they would come out of live pollutants who create and use it in a for the didn't because because stuff of it's equipment was finished over leaving to be those come the comes the in the, in the they always came in the early morning, markham still and when it was still dark and rang the doorbell loudly, i'm sure i'm good lord, it is of some of the 1st time we were very scared. was the men short of it the next time we knew who it was? it seems. i think they always came in their leather coats and their military hats. i guess to picture it exactly. do you happen to see snow hard?

this is kent, this is victory. sure. of is, is it, you know, as the special ed be system so, but it's with us as an inside pickup, who is it? then they came and took the man and the families in front median up to a hard time. sometimes just for interrogation is not so hard, so sometimes to send them to the home because the name the hell was already known among jews because they knew what happened there. we didn't mention it to them in fulton county. and my once they came during the day and kept ringing the doorbell though it's, i can't say if my father knew or just had a feeling you have to do, i have to skip boost, as well as the company's mission. we will turn them around. heartland had to x x here, he went out the back as they were coming in the front and he says he does, he didn't say anything but meal, but he just vanished. and so quickly, session and official at the street bridge, when i asked him later where he went on, he said he was in the caretakers apartments and say, and they deliver. they were very nice people. i'm right. but the gestapo came in

and my grandmother told them he wasn't there. he roy, me through. so if this was an issue was a nice middle class apartment with lots of rooms, i would say search them all and saw me standing there on time. they asked me where my father was saying 5 days before i knew, but i didn't say a word and then he's gone exclusive. because when i didn't answer one slaughtered me twice across the face and asked me again a gets that i guess i can get switched to. but then for the i cried because it really hurt. somebody must have realized he wouldn't get anything out of me. that makes me, i'm fine with this. and then they left click on devices with them and everyone was very worried until i come down again. it's just, i was just a child. i'm just saying we say a good time, we never forget the terrible pain. like in the

b as in terms of i said one day we were walking on the tough, easy, and visa. sure. no time, a nice day with lots of people around looks on has good says green car suddenly just stopped in the middle of the road. thanks for meeting the from the sonata to man and leather coats got out and demanded id from the people who were walking. the took it up to come and sit on the d moment. i felt a hand pulling me away and putting my hand on a stroller of these, a 100 of them came double clicked. a horrible situation. this is any 1st, what is it to it? so even if he's done, i looked at my father who signaled that i shouldn't look at him with so. so for seeing you so much, much though, if you consume 3 of the men were writing something down. i know this i'm gonna show to him, but i'm going to skip says that it's been done 10 a married couple lead me a way which the immediately asked where i left on it. and they told me to run home

quickly and explain what it happened. lotion and also some sort of a specific just having vacancy and i saw them take them away on line to get done prevention so perfectly. and i really didn't think i would see him again. it could be so be this the base proof because i knew what was happening to ship to. he denied her too much with at least had experienced too much of what people said that significantly. our family was affected by these things to the oh, hold on. the other families suffered similar fates for the year. i was getting them . no jewish family was spared really comes to mind, felt them, it's good them. they took my father, 2 extra tasa to the police department in the, in the extra us able to this with his mile. again, the police had helped quite to you and, and said that i don't know if this at this lucy is cookie, later tells me what happened at the have a feeling he met

a lot of well known men. they're only men a minute and when it was my father's turn, he said his name is exclude norma. romantic is like a secret island and showed the in on the man sitting in the middle, looked at him and told him to step out of the line. so the employees thought that was going to be his death sentence. he didn't know why he was supposed to step aside. and so, i mean, i'm the none of the others had to have not had to accept my the man said norland can you don't recognize me and my father really hadn't recognized him and the man said, i'll tell you why you should recognize me. so i don't see much and so you can install it see how much i'm loading and i'm getting have you once represented me in a legal matter. and as he should read news, i said when i didn't have the money to pay my bill, you told me so much so. okay, then pay it. when you can see to make it sucked. ok then sciences means he couldn't

. and now i can repay you. it's kind of go home to the house, things like that also happened. that's. that's okay to the camera, not doing the same as an actual deduction. then came the 9th of november 1938. so it's my father had been warned to get his family out of the house is something was

being planned against the jews this other than that and so forth. my can vote didn't hesitate because i wanted to take my grandfather with us. it's this is fair to go see, but she wouldn't leave because it would attract attention. she stayed at home to see how it was november and cold. i still remember her putting my cap on me and tying my scarf. let me see what this info and he wanted to warn his friend counsellor, which it so we crossed the valley and saw the broken windows in the roof and department store. there is a new phone cove. there were a lot of jewish businesses back then. she could shift him, some people were looting things, but some were standing and watching the scene of a we didn't stop. i think we just kept on walking until we reached the area around sampling. i tore square. oh then where counsellor would show lift the dean from the

same thing the top let's 2 button uh does it the company, i'm sure before we even reached his house, we saw a green police car. and grandpa rode shields came out just as we arrived. and he wasn't my real grandpa shoot. so average me, but i always called him back because he had so much white hair and i had lost my own grandfather feed, eventually, hot out on the come of those. usually if he came out or was dragged out by the arms by 2 men, the women um get getting on with. i know they had a bandage here on his forehead, and it was soaked with blood as difficult as the signature of the applicants and had to excuse seeing, he saw us through the 4th and immediately looked away. they both need to put towards kentucky. didn't want the man to see that we knew him see nothing done. him and they shoved him into the car and kicked him evening. disposal noticed his make

sure you had the meeting, susan. lock your wife. in front of me as of that was the last we ever saw of him. as my father said, we had to get out of there quickly. so you relief as i get some of the subject. you see, i watched him thinking about what to do next scene, and then he said we were going to doubting where a good friend of his loved helps the name and something that he didn't want to take the main road. because he loved nature, he knew his way through the country from the end and stuff, and we walked all the way from the city center to counting to the cus a month to month. a married couple and an e pi. when we arrived and my father told them what had happened, that change was because she is on mr. casselman said, without hesitation, you'll stay the night with us circuits. and that was that on this one of them. oh, the for the next, the next day we went back again this way everything was back to normal to normalize

the the estate duplicate sealants. so the 1st deportation trains of the people were taken out of the trains and led straight to the pits and all shot, all of them. that's a of a beat. but the ones who did it, the police or whoever. they told their families what happened? the hum this in the median. mixed content because

apparently let's see if they didn't like seeing small children. i'm trying to toddlers, easy and the youngest was half a year old. and so it was for on the train 19 that students that were simply shot incidents, but with the info shows the dc they put the 2 on in the home. the biggest stapo didn't organize the deportations themselves. and then for us it's as you did you get mind there was no jewish community anymore. just an office in the back of the house and they appointed a jewish representative. there's nice. okay, mr. cole check. oh, never forget him. i forget your name, but i can't forget his name. let me can reach me for case a see,

i can see him. i knew him and he had to fill out the list with people's acquaintances from although he knew it was a death list. or this one did is the let's. those were the last minutes with my grand mother. he's good for us it's. i can still see her these and those horrible official of mine for like is he told my father there was a children's and adults and a seniors transport. and he had to put someone on a list of the and most of the lease visits and decided not to spend money. my grand mother volunteered, of course a to suspend and he could touch base of at some point, she said good bye to me and told me she was going to a spa and would be back. so dave, is this? what's the word spa, as sound a dreadful to me ever since? cut this photo sort of so fresh, but you're by sobbed. and so did she this can you can imagine

that the end of my childhood, the impact of afresh, better on that my father had become terrified, seemed is because it had come so close to his family. gotten so close to his family that he was looking for way to get me away from it all of a sudden consent to infinity. industries with a v, as he didn't know how, but he just didn't want either. image the home. it is a he later said that if anything had happened, he would have sacrificed himself on the sea,

called my uncle's former, made in a village near nuremberg, new and back to the someone from the little village post office had to go to her home and tell her that a mister norland wanted to speak to her because he got his happiness hard to imagine today in these days of modern technology and do some a lot of easily. so when college of to, for the big mistake the, so 1st it'll be hard to get to it. she makes decisions that she didn't know why she was being summoned. and that would let you know the name norland. you must us and hand over lunch. and then she asked if she could take me in for a while because of the proof on the and i'd like to set up submission if you're in a good side of name of it, that brother is having fun of the very sick. and so we took a trip that we didn't where the yellow stars needs to get. so my father told me to

sit it in one carriage and he would sit in the other. they dislike the soda and that i should look out of the window at every station. or then let me see him. if i eat a bite, eat i have just stated some to install the ocean of energy. and if i saw the s s getting on the train, it could come toby, british deed i was to get off immediately and wait for him at the station, stating when he found hope of seeing about how much weight that you fact i asked him later, what he'd been thinking of of dish. well, i was supposed to wait for him in the station. it would be for me to get to the s s . had come down those meet if they had taken him yet, what would have happened to me at the exec dislike? he said he didn't know either. this is easy to say, but people went through a lot of it's kind of in the home, but the train wasn't being watched. we arrived in nuremberg and walked for 2 and a half hours to little village in indian ending jane and left this one special.

there were 2 sisters, one of whom was my savior. and an 80 year old father, the the sons were fighting in the war, but the little creek and my brothers and my father kept pacing back and forth in the room. and i still see him back and forth, back and forth. i'm son. comes you take the homes and then they came back and said they had decided to take me in for a while. so even though they didn't receive the phone so, but if we couldn't find a legal way, i would have to leave that the move just i wouldn't be allowed to stay with these read a tutor with a young boy and as a thing consideration, which means that these is a said if i can't describe my feelings when i said good bye to my father coverage to to come, but i thought i would never see him again. ready here. a bit of sluggish to the top . this is my decision. so i think was

a terrible feeling have a good go to these, but it was good that this woman, her name was in z throat, said cvc. she was extremely pious, but she was very, very religious, as is okay, so be sure to ask him and jeff to the village. women saw me of course and said she had brought her bastard to live with her. that's what they called. and so legitimate child, it's up to the bunk up to get breast. that's not enough to lose you to a stroke fear and also alien skewed. she wasn't married, she'd never had a husband give up and they said it to her face. so it's can see she gets on that it does that so much way to accept this is this kind of what she felt that had come from god above on her. so she knew she could take it. this is what she

said. yes, she told everyone and they threw the word bastard in her face. all of those years, the bunk of them didn't cook. that's how people are choosing mention of them was the issue. so that's phone food. i had to go to the villages rationing officer and i can still see the swastika he had on his green uniform grid, the older phone. and then he had an office in that so and he got up to meet us as we were walking in fitness for us soon. so you must have seen us from the window that gets in. uh huh. he said, oh, so you brought your bastard as a cookies, we'll have to bunk it. he didn't want to know anything about me leaving somebody coming about because he was just responsible for issuing ration cards and the matter was settled and so forth. and so bad that i was legal each while because the

destruction of tillage that bridge the leading, telling the village priest everything health less than her burden, the city modest that's it to to. but when i think back village the, he did a lot to help to look at the a to, to thank you at the see if he could list it. he had to take me into the church here on the putting in india, arranged everything. so nobody noticed it unless i'm chief of a soul. this k not give me a new issue and tuck, but i had to go to the church early every morning and stuff until an s s battalion occupied the village from the for the for the enemy is spot the young. they were

retreating from the americans from overlooked to club, and i'm going to already here the shots, and or tillery fire, and the distance, or the template from the fan to get a does. monday, the sunday the priest was afraid because he didn't know how long they were going to stay, and she loved the common and nobody knew what was happening on a piece for how long they would stay. for when the americans would come on come the, i'm not gonna, the is conducting the common when i went into the shelter, forced laborers from poland were already in there, frozen and made men, women and men. the women were crying and they was so scared and scope to steve the family as s left pieces and the americans liberated the village at the i'm, i kinda have the stuff that fred on. so they went up the hill and sat on their

tanks and threw gum to the children. i seem to just like you see in the movies of the pump. so in case there's some something to them. cogan would. so he will just kind of as is vince, it's hard to imagine them as well. so and then where was over the degree goes the, the fine shopping leap in my heart. i had already buried my father. i had known about all the horrors when i was still with him as he spoke with into something. but i was convinced that i didn't have any one left. it's about the phone, but soaked the associate's name on the

main shop. i've done this, but my father came some months later. how's that we're going to check and he'd been in the hospital and wasn't in any condition or anything but not finished the thing, it's going to be a. everything had been destroyed. no news, no post office dot com, then there was nothing left. i just got out of a vague and with and made. and i was driving a wagon with a double team of cows when he showed up shipping off and block. they don't move very fast. you know the social, it came down and i heard a car coming up behind me and he always doesn't alter the me a comes the link to the left cow hated cars the you have to and she had to act out . this is something that happened in the temple is because the other, so this will have as if i got down off the wagon, stood in front of her and hugged her so she wouldn't see the cars out at least the bottom and then sees it past us but i see from me and then stopped about 2030 meters in front of me. steam cliff houses for god's sake. now i have to drive past

that car with his crazy cow. she hated cars of it. do you know what she would have hated this modern world as a because anyway, as i got closer, someone got out as well. my and it was my father. that is my goodness. it was. you can't imagine the ship to trying to get it. he had friends there on the farm. all the animals were my friends. this one mind is a new my secrets, everything, and then they listen to even for the service was at least i pretended they did. on the 4th, which is likely for me, i didn't want to leave my friends as a this, but that was the worst thing i could imagine. but she said i had to flush that and couldn't think most of this of a tune this way. i didn't want to go back to munich, just me thing i didn't want to be with the people who had ostracized us,

so insulted us like which is bad at us, who hated us. feelings have some. and i knew they were still there. seen honey. and that was right to the one on the, even the caretaker. they were all there and the other one. so, and everyone was so friendly and so nice and so kind to be happy and gauge ones and thanking god we were back. unhealthy is going to be flushing as you would have believed it. come as this is vicky surely if you hadn't known what humans were like before you did that. i mentioned to people as they really are to mention the discharge. many is that was my 1st question. where's grandma owns another minute and he told me that she hadn't survived to believe that for

the shift then i met my future husband and i was very young and he wasn't interested in me. but i only had eyes for him for the even of when i was older, we began dating. eventually we got married and that goes with it than any the

china did them as no one who stayed wanted to stay here to every couple. every person who did stay had their own reasons. somebody said this, i know i loved my children and wanted the best for them with the money. so we stayed 50, just base to, to susie, my, you please the associates, understand human man, you know, you're a young person and you have such anger of the basic and it gets transferred to various people research so i can see what she did manifests itself and the people you meet when you live in the country that did that. this was see if that was very

difficult. so a very, a very difficult you just mentioned tv, the jewish people who resettle did not resettle in germany these but in the land of the murderers loved basically this was the land of the murders and can see the pets this way. the jews lived in a kind of self inflicted ghetto, a. d. d, him, there was an unseen bond between us, at least that the um, the other mill that we were connected on just wanted to see what we have on. i mean, we were on the one side the victims and it said this is what i decided to do and the murder is on the other. so it's even decided that the . ringback the not see ships get charged,

you have to lie to yourself beat. and as you pretended to be a person who had never actually existed, that this most of the, most of what you had to live with. it might have says you tried to find people who had nothing to do with it within the scrubs. if you've got these people that exist and they did a great deal, see if he could less that. you tried to find people for whatever reason, who had not supported the national socialist system, 3 of us, the pieces are these, they were your support. since you see students need to get that they were there is warranty from people and it's got, it's got, they were simply afraid. it's got c as in this as soon as i can remember it very well. so couldn't i hear you say i clicked on it. some of them were even in official positions in the neighborhood. no, it was. but we knew that every sitting judge there had a colored past and this is my father knew it to the

happenings prevent destruction. so nobody talked that is neither amongst the victims, nor amongst the culprits that either nobody spoke about it with a next generation. we did not get another 2 shots each. i need a long time, many years until my children were much older occlusal than we lived amongst ourselves. study it too, but isolated from the rest of the world until, excuse me, my older children were never allowed to bring school friends home and sure we should for the short losing. and i felt so pretty and the younger ones did. but

do you have a, a that was progress that's that's, that's what i needed to speak to the shooting young. this is, it's many years later and see perhaps 20 years ago. hadn't i got a call from a ma'am? it's so so i'm so and so and if you have time, i'd like to talk to you about your past. oh, who would difficult. okay. page those. i agreed and we met the live on the when i arrived he had a pile of pictures, he taking in a camp over the years, but he didn't say what they were before. he says he introduced himself and told me he had been the head of the new that's whole fund deportation, campus loc as well, where people had had to stay for a few days before their deportation. the pup,

i'll give you the tab station. so westborough has he and why do you need me a substantial dean. and so he tells me he wanted me to know that he felt very guilty. and we see i showed you that 1st he had been enthusiastic and did what he was told. but he had felt guilty and expressed his remorse. and my name's all he wanted to tell me personally, that he couldn't undo his crimes. and he gave me the big stack of photos that he had taken over the years at the camp and seen that i sit there and that was it. on the that's with the ship. it really affected me. i am a because i knew my grandmother had been there. it was part of her, the life she then had to live there, leaving does it. thank you and was the about this, the, it was the star test, the begin. this is this camp in mid that's whole from the way the jews were put

into the train cars that you wouldn't indeed buckle as it gives you a to the ground. it's any, any. we now need political education starting in kindergarten over here as i think it's very important to give young people political education. but then you'll see that they grow up together as i've supported should be don't people with us as our kindergartens and elementary and high schools have both jewish and non jewish children? good, i'm sure be nice, whom will be a huge should be of me soon as you can. now, it's so important that the children grow up together. that's the kingdom and that both sides see that the other is no different from themselves. vista under the gun, you get under success 16 desktop dead. another one with the baton of remembrance

has already been passed on to you. do this all the time of eye witnesses who can still testify to what they experience. what people experienced will soon be over any good side for by yes, you are the ones with the duty and the task of maintaining these memories, the making. these escape, not only that you commemorate, but the people know that that's one good thing that young people know what people can do to other people. as, as mentioned, mention i'm talking and you can only do that by remembering the, by commemorating the, by putting the facts on the table on to the and the next generation of the non jewish population is very important in maintaining this collaboration and remembrance together. and by that's a field that's helped me with the police. let's not to recount what happened was what just to guarantee that it doesn't happen again. that is very, very important to me. this is my assignment to all of you that i've done. it will

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