the n 13 saw me cause is very hard. they beat you, they think, oh, everything on your stuff. find out about some on stores in so migrant reliable news. oh my goodness the you know, i'd be lives with god save. most of some people now even may nibble to says below that banking, updating logos, these. thank you, my uncle. let's see in the file. i can go to my village and you'll see, but t a now will yeah, every n u a go everywhere, the seats. i used to feel safe because that a lot of really cheap as soon as i hear that. so i but review the most of the places and let's see bring back the girls. remember that rallying cry, calling for the safe return over 276 school girls who had been kidnapped by bulk of

around in nigeria. well, that was 10 years ago and despite the campaigns and immense pressure on the government, some people girls are still in captivity to this day. sadly, abductions, have now become a business, and especially children and young people are the victim. so today on the 77 percent, we want to look at how people get objected in the 1st place, who is behind these kidnappings and how they can be stopped. stay tuned for us read to bade from nigeria and also interviews with kidnappers and experts. my name is, let's show, let's dive right into it. i believe you are watching us from somewhere safe and you don't have to worry about someone breaking into your home and taking you away. but in some parts of africa, the threats of being abducted is real full of africa has the highest number of, of death sions on the continent. meanwhile in nigeria,

schoolgirls are becoming an easy target and unfortunately, masking that things are happening where it's already difficult for girls to get an education in the 1st place. listen, security is one of the reasons why more than 700 schools were closed in northern nigeria. 2 years ago, so what exactly led to this crisis, getting up in imagery has dramatically evolved over the last system from religious the motivated up the options to have profitable enterprise run by criminal guns known as funded the most in seamless incidence remains the 2014 up duction of 276 schoolgirls bifocal har. um, however, in the ronald west and central regions getting up and has become a business for me on monday, kit is displaced by conflicts with farm is top 10 to bundle creates and networks carry out lots fuel run some kidnappings. in 2023 alone. about $3600.00 kids,

nothing square reports at nationwide. martin and national crisis major has a strong security force. so why is it so difficult to tackle this problem? even the political, the really there then to challenge from the drift. detract elements are known to do it to a bit, treat in the go button, to treat the group of renegade individuals who are challenging disagreements, the use of force by the state. and they have their reasons where to justify it or not. by 2020 full. the crisis have escalated, they've been near a good job, entails like body who j. n. while, while other residents live in fear, with many lean to the city center is really careful. well one come ok and also to each how you have your loved one co love song to be

paid a price that you i've never seen in life. why i sleep in the nights. i don't know. what are we to the next big we are in fear? sometimes our businesses are not booming well because of the security challenges. high pull bits and unemployment rates push many young people into bundle was security forces locked the tools to come by them. yes, there is hope. in august 2020 full measurement pretty is dismantled and made just kidding up in ring c. as in west phones, phones and other tools on the score in the course of use the cation of these criminals. the question remains. how can my g a and this crisis well to, and the crisis security forces definitely need to deal with the perpetrators. the kidnappers, who are they? and why do they believe it's okay to snatch people from their homes or schools, or from the streets? we have an exclusive interview with one can never i was and we need to get to can

with adding mass i some people hold it as a profession initially the engaging to read as a form of the vin, our guy. yeah. i know it as being turned into a profession, a select kind of a, do you the web doctor, people whom they suspect of getting something from that's is island without it gives you initially, abduction was done by people who knew the victims and what they could get from them, but it has become widespread because many people migrate to them left the place, so they go in search of the free. sometimes they have the victims on the highway. and as you go, as i've always use that and they don't care whether those cups of money or not, what they are concerned is run, some must be paid to them as well as it goes through the end of the name of the a lot less. so for i will buy car, this is just a business, but can you imagine what an abduction means for the victims? how do you get back on your feet after spending days, months,

year's income riveted under the circumstances? i don't even want to imagine on the sad 10 year anniversary of the 2 books school abduction. we had the chance to talk to one of the girls was taken by vocal her. i'm how i took part in our street debate in that bush with my colleague, edith came on the hello and welcome back to the 77 percent st debates this week. we a back in a julia's capital, a book now 7500. that's the number of reports of keeping up in cases in a period of one year in this country between june 2023 and july 2024 of us to be some very staggering statistics. the and of course behind every forget is a pressing the people who are going to be speaking to us to be trying to figure out why the situation persist in they do. yeah. and what can be done about it? let's start right here with what i know when we talk about kidnapping in a do a, you might go back to the to book goes and you will actually one of them. it's been

10 years since you were abducted. do you mind telling us what happened to you that did at the i in school these people just come on around the schools and they just tell us that that the so yes, they just got your 2 d some diesel for 3 years. we spent 3 years were there and we, i just please. well, we share pause and we used to come back to see all our parents. and is that up to us that we be missing them or this, then we start scanning. and we just say is we start quality and the job, you know, it's been 10 years since the original kidnapping. 7 years since you were released. would you say that you've gotten over the trauma? i wonder if that's even an appropriate question? yes, i'm to scam because as to call me to our campus, he's the vocal honda. so i'm kind of confused to at home safe because i'm of the

if i here on the just should do despite what the government did. and despite towards the international community tried, do you feel that it was enough? no, it's not you've. i'm to add to them for our assist us. do day for 10 is do you think that the government has forgotten about the remaining goals? yes, i seen. so it was stuff like you had a very different experience. she was obviously captured by the bulk of around. they have some very incredible mutant ideologies based on religion. do you know who your cup does what and what happened to you, wendy? i come back into nice, then i saw someone planned v. my did so do out in black. lots looking like for lisa, but they provide their faces. and what they gotta do um about 18 of them that got in a k 47. so i've been with them for what?

15 days. uh, because uh, investigation is between life and date. and the address actually enough. i found some by 500000000. i said that i don't have it. i don't know if my final release, i mean the 100000000 debt to equity says that the debt looks like money. ok. we dallas know we, i assume you coming back to my pharmacy. i'm really sorry that you both went through that. but of course, the situation that we're talking about here and they do, yeah, is not unique to these 2. as a matter of fact, let me just see from our audience how many people here knew of someone who was keeping up on news, a friend or a friend of a friend. you know ne julian ok. so you're saying no, ne julian has been unaffected. yeah, but these are 2 very different motivations, right? it would seem like the book of her rom, it's very clear they wanted to form a country where does that disparity come from? when they decided to, in the case of the kidnappers,

for us. so they just started likely as a conflict between hy, this i promise, which is normally during the harvest among the house on i'm on the fly, me. i know it was a house and the full i knew, full audience who i'm not familiar with 90 to find. uh the for line. yeah. the highest and the house is a tribe that has been mixed up by religion. okay. so we are clear on who they are and now you're telling me they start to conflict because of grazing lands because of the road. but how does that then become kidnapping when it looked at became kidnapping because of the lack of social justice to dakota option among a security bus, submit the issues of managing the grades and months. they started selling grades and lunch to the promise. so how does have know a tentative institutional portion and so on those. okay, so just to i've made to the, let me just pause there because because it's a huge and very complicated history. but i think we get the gist of it. and you've

talked about the security forces and their response to that 12 yesterday, when we're talking about kidnapping, you'd expect to find a put a uniformed police officer here. we actually had one. and they actually came right up here to a venue. but at the very last minute when they had that it was at the beach, they chose not to participate. regardless of that, you still depend on the police officers, halima and one of your relatives was also keeping up. and i'm just trying to find out as a family when you hear the news, what impact did that have on on you'll find me. it's tries so hard. there's pause the video on the show media. how do a plug in them? my treating them in the bush, all of the shots and crying. and the nice thing that lead off come up. i said he's given the government's us would. it's that you've the don't call to give them what they want, that they're going to slow to all of them. so how did you eventually get to a system back, mercedes by god degrees,

without being any run. so that's good. i don't know. that is between them and the government. i want to come to joshua because we're hearing some very scary things. yeah, yeah. y a people, so they're being why has this problem continued persistently for so long? the bottom line is money a. it's a money making venture. so for example, you this, that small undergraduate into bigger groups and, and more. yeah, got the victims, the more money to make nigeria is a cash based economy. now what do you use to pay for run some? well, i would imagine if you could have a kid, napa, not a digital currency. yes. because no kidding about. want to take money by by wire, by bank transfer or anything because it will be a trip to so long that this cash in the society. the issue of keeping up being is not going any. we soon let me hear a few more solutions from the people here. what do you think needs to be done in

order for this to become a problem of the past? so that night julia is no longer dealing with this. i see your hand up to a stop paying them some complete to me because we are all on was we to missing a number of people that have been keyed in the country. so even to keep people tired, no money, no around. so maybe they will have to stop. but tell me that cannot be a solution. ok. so you, you think that it's okay for people to get mad just so that the solution can be found. if not, so how much are we going to spinning the paintings? i'm so long. some people you paid on the community. okay. do i see joshua's hands up? i think he wants to respond to this and most of the let me come to you 1st. he say, you know what, in order to ease a button on your family, it's may be better if you had been cute. i'm in support of that. just as a product you, people are taking money to this uh, kid. now for us, this get nothing with not and uh, and if any one or a victim in the handled by

a kid. now if us loved each life, the government should come, i would buy confidence, stating that family, at least actually lives with a minimum of a police, a $5000000.00 because we have money. uh okay. i have to say, i'm very surprised that you are leaning towards that. uh, how do you my, let me come to you before i finish joshua. to me, what he said is a note to me. that awesome. they're going to give the family will live, bring back the person that kills it can bring him back as limited time. i was good enough, but i did. this is india physician that that will not come back. but i do money. they will give to my family probably to be able to, to see something to do, to my children. let me, let me, let me come back to what is the person you're saying that you're deal and give the funding to the last one is the burden of the family that didn't you of you. you came up to your family or you know, provide you for your family, but it was the government continue to provide for the family that i believe your,

you don't know what government is, do you the best of that can be dealt with much and as to when he is go you, i do see a new way to stop this kidnapping footboards lead the government in order with disabilities 6, that is not ready to do the work by step in this uh, get not being remind you that let me, let me close this up with joshua because we're hearing obviously some very radical solutions from 2 people who enjoyed the keep that being in one way or another, final thoughts for you to say stop payment of run. so it is beyond where it is. because once your, your 5 though your mother or really to just kidnapped your sense of judgment is automatically impaired. i expect the government to put words into action to ensure that run some payment is reduced, it cannot be stopped. so we asked what sounded like a very simple question at the beginning of this debate. what is causing the problem of kids not being carrying? they do a very key effect as elaborated. how can you stop that?

not so clear on that myself would love to hear from you, but for now. thank you all for watching the thank you very much for that fantastic street debate a little wave. although i have to say the picture painted is pretty grim. i still wonder whether the abduction prices in nigeria can be stopped. what solutions already out there? well, let's hear what our expert has to say. duct deck up here, a demo c o of beacon security and intelligence base. and nigeria. i'm aware that previously some go from those one of them we've the minutes that d a d, the level brought together all the articles in the you know how to prove that the traditional reluctant reflecting community and difficult to dep monday. give them to condition the auto group that you've government for the field. that condition they will make sure no unit from among the community joined monday groups under the condition of one, including the def,

monthly and of all of vigilante groups in northern nigeria. yes, i think the 2nd condition with the provision of through charlotte munity for the community. and as far as i'm concerned, it's not difficult the month. but my point is that the month, i know why the explanation has not been implemented. it's really because of the, i've sent the political root. so mr demo says that a lack of political will is why people in parts of nigeria are still living in constant fear. well, in kenya, where objections also take place, it is suspected that elected officials may be behind those crimes. i'm sure you remember the so called jen z protest that took place a few months ago. well, some activists got abducted and their case shows why we need social movements both online and offline, in order to protect people who are brave enough to criticize those in power of every year. hundreds of young canyons adopted or disappeared without a trace. for the victims,

there is no escape. i'm the way so you have to say that you can go with this whole issue many believe those tasks that we've protecting them are in fact the ones instigating the tara. of course fans and fans and fans, full police official but many kenyans have had enough of being bullied into submission. if so, wait until is free today. believe that kenya and they will be, can, you will be free one day. and every other concert, enough time in june, the jen z protest shall kenya to its core police open file and peace. we protest as clearly over 50 people. bill eugene if video, griffin, an active as was one of the phones land protest as he shows us. he's safe house where he saw the refuge during this time, pj, and, and dog. she had nestled between 2 apartment blocks for someone to come some good view of a, a in 5000 the 50 community. and that's a,

that's why i consider these are the 5th. but eugene, sense of safety was advised one night stealing from t of as he approached the safe house when the white ca suddenly pulled up for a masked man, jumped out and forced him inside, handcuffed and blindfolded. he received no explanation why or why they were taking him. when the cost stopped, he was dropped into a courtroom. oh, as mutant that i live and then or of to to, to get off my clothes. and then they asked me, who's funding? and, and, and, and, and who was that fund that sending it to the streets union was forcibly disappeared . a secret imprisonment and torture? many, oh, i rested in public but never taken to a police station or a court of law. all of us liked influenza shade leave abducted in unmatched cars as recorded here on cctv cameras. which 315 enforced the disappearances since

2019 it is becoming systematic. we suspect it's a place of punish. if we listen to the stories of people who uh and forcibly disappear, doing tendencies on the pretty get see is this dies the more desolate and us on the see and this way, glad craft. so this guy there would be a civilian a petition challenged with these accusations. both the police and the director for public persecutions refused to comment for on the van enforce disappearances are a deeply troubling trend of policy. with the end of end stating caea and tara on october 20 canyon, and celebrate much who john d, wondering. those who fought for independence bagley uses this occasion to remember the victims of police brutality as the leader of the free canyon movement,

who was fortunately disappeared in all of us. an old lady, least of 30 high court select into the inspector general of police with imprisonment jogs these kenya across the routes. so that 2 options, if you ask me, write me a that we do a couple of initiative, which is that are for them. are we have a popular uprising, which is that a pollution? it depends on the reaction of the state. if this step is welcome to open dialogue with the people, then that is the solution of the ones as freakin. number 12, you didn't survived his imprisonment after being dumped and left on the side of the road. his dormant, as failed at breaking him together with the older survivors. he's creating a documentary about in judge violence and taja. saying to silence us. we have to to start

using plans to wait for the upcoming elections to vote for the change the best really need to fucking jen z. wait that long. those who allegedly abducted and touch at them. austin and paul and have long since abandoned the rules. i don't know about to you, but to me the sounds a bit depressing and i believe citizens feeling helpless. but we've learned that raising awareness about abductions is an important action step. and this is not only the duty of active this but also of the media. so what do we need? a free and independent press, and by the way, we have a lot of in depth reports on the topic on our youtube channel will now travel to come a room where brave journalists are being abducted and blackmailed as a weapon to silence them. me come, a rooney and journalist and whistle blow,

a pole tutor was kidnapped. often watching a football match at a nearby cafe. unknown men forced him into a call and beat him up, brutally. he says they wanted to kill him, just lives right up to the sea, follows that there was a motorcycle that i can just around the corner. that's when they left and drove off to home. and they were convinced that i was dead or should just before that they told me they had a mission and told me to say my last breath. when you talk and say your last pray i, you know, that means he's because that's not true to it's still trying to find out who want to kill him. so far. no one has been arrested as evidence to, to documented and published pictures of his injuries. this was not the 1st time he was attacked, budget was the most brutal. he still carries both the physical and emotional scars . mr. moseley sees a trauma for life when i pass the display as i get flushed bucks of the time. why

young ladies? even as guy here on the left side of my face, my eyes to suffer from the post traumatic lakehoma. and apart from that injurious, there is also uh, psychological trauma. what was it to ranked 100 and 30th out of 180 countries on the world press freedom index in 2024, count maroon is rated as one of the least 3 countries for press. worldwide investigative journalists like pull to tell, often suffer from repression by law enforcement. fellow journalist martinez, they'll go was tortured to death and shoot to himself spent a year behind bars. he already spent 24 months bind boss for legit information. look at them and they did the same thing to me. they need to martinez if you know how he died, you can imagine this that i was into when i was found. they took my clothes, i was negative and given much each, miss martinez has to eat his own faces. they took all of his cloth away. it is the

same kind of thoughts i went through because i was just like these offices of miles bypassing the active shooter continues to search for his attack as he once justice . meanwhile, governmental authorities insist that the country is safe for journalists, but recent events prove otherwise. so we're getting to the end of our show today, mid wasn't one of those uplifting and fun episodes. but indeed an important issue that we wanted to shed light on. and even though objections continue happening everyday across africa, we have learned that a combination of solutions can help sold the crisis. political will security forces that are not corrupt, higher standards of living, a strong civil society, and a free and independent press. i'd really like to know what you thought of our show today, so please drop us a comment on youtube. instagram or a tick tock. that's it from me and the whole team. thank you so much for watching. i'll leave you with the phone with the carrier has a very powerful message. monsters you made by burn

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