[000:00:00;00] the and this is the w, there's live it from berlin, special coverage of the us presidential election. the race is over between democratic vice president, cumberland, harris and republican, former us president donald trump. the results are now coming in to night. as america, the saw i feel very confident i have, you know, we went in with a very big lead today. and it looks like republicans have shown up in source the most sequential election of our lifetime. and the momentum is on our side,

the and it all comes down to the selection day in america is almost over us, voters. and people around the world are waiting in anticipation to find out who will be the $47.00, the president of the united states. it will be history in the main thing there, wherever, when it's coming to harris would be the 1st female president and us history. donald trump would be the 1st convicted criminal to win the white house stock differences reflecting the polarization of 21st century american politics. these were the final messages from harris and trump, that voters took with them to the ballot box today. take a listen. i'm a consequential election of our lifetime and the momentum is on our side. the. our campaign has

tapped into the ambitions and the aspirations and the dreams of the american people. we are optimistic and we are excited about what we can do to gather. and we know it is time for a new generation of leadership in, in america. and i am ready to offer that leadership as the next president of the united states of america. i feel very confident they have, you know, we went in with a very big lead today. and it looks like the republicans have shown up in source is if i lose an election, if it gets air election, i've got it. i'd be the 1st one to acknowledge it. and i think it's well so far i think it's been chair. i don't have to tell them that they've been involved sufficiently no violence. my supporters are not violent. people don't have to tell

them that a hi there. i certainly don't want any violence, but i certainly don't have to tell these are great people are voting is wrapping up on the east coast of the united states, all eyes on those key battleground states, the poles and 3 of them, pennsylvania, north carolina, in georgia, have now closed the ballot county is now under way to my right is my colleague christine would while she is with us keeping a look on the numbers and also keeping a dw tradition alive just as she did back in 2020 on election night. christine will bring us the latest vote count as the polling places across the united states. close into my left is i mean as if he's a colleague, a dw corresponded. he is in berlin with us tonight, but he has reported in the united states based out of our washington d. c bureau. and to my far right, mike cockburn and he is an expert on the us political party system. he's a researcher at the european university. the a dream that he's also an author,

his 1st book examines the parties and congressional elections and how they've contributed to america's polarized politics of today to all the it's good to have you here. it's the media, but yeah, it's a exciting night and of course we want to get to the numbers 1st because yeah, what do we have? why did we do that? well, i've also brought some graphics for us and let's roll the 1st one of those. um, if you haven't been paying attention, the magic number tonight is 270 and that is the number of electro college fluids that the candidate needs to win. so look at how the race is tripping up. now trump squad, his $95.00 foot in the bag, come to harris trading. they was 35, but we know that as most states cool in that as well, most certainly is the change. i mean, coming into this, we sort of knew that she has a bit of an easy, a numerical path, right? if foot is, was the way they've always weighted historically, then she does have a little bit more going in to this. it is a bit of an uphill fault for donald trump. it has to with my child to pick up most states. but why don't we go over now? and just give you a sense of how that map is coloring up for us. now this would be

a geographical met of the united states, and we'll start seeing where places will some of those results have been quoted. and that will come up momentarily for us to look at as expected. pulls, having closed in the east coast. and some of those not very many surprises, right. i mean surprises and just a caviar to. yes. so everything that's sort of in the dark shade that's been cold. that's the way it looks a bit like it's in a light to shade. that is what the associated press is projecting that the result will be. and one of the key ones for us tonight is of course georgia. me look at that in the light to shape, but we know that results have come in and places like for months, that's gone and state democrats, but yeah, when we actually talk about george and i would look at that 33 percent of the vote has been counted at donald trump in the 2 leads over the coming to harris at 44 percent of that foot. but this is one of those. this is one state, but i unexpectedly turned them across right in,

in the 20 election. right. so this was a real surprise, but it's looking like and i think, well, the polls coming in redwood was sort of indicating that the republicans will take this one back. but because they have to count at the atlanta area, which that's right, virgin's lives right in that usually goes democrats. yeah, that's why we're seeing her trailing so much, even though the polls show up being closer. yeah, absolutely. so that, that is georgia for you, one that we're certainly going to be watching. so 33 percent of that for account in georgia. why do we have a look at, at the next one for you now? will i have the north carolina or will do florida? which one will it be? oh, this is north carolina. mm hm. yes. right. that's the branches. this is the right. it's okay. so it's still any days in this range, right. 6 percent of bedford coming in north carolina is an interesting one to night . right. so has difference. he needs that strong factors. so really interesting the in north carolina, we've seen already that the governor's race has been cold for the democratic candidate. this, the republican candidate here was, was very controversial, fig

a. he made comments about himself being a black nazi. and there was, there was, there was a longstanding expectation that there would be a split and the, the, this at the governorship would go to the democrats. so there's a potential chance that the governors ticket rather than the presidential ticket, affecting what's going on the governors risk, the may be some small impact of the governor's race on the presidential race. there may be potentially help and come with the harris of at least one of those states where the demographics are changing the last time north carolina was democrat was when obama was elected. and so the feeling is with more people moving in, you've got more urban areas that this could maybe be that the chance for coming to here. those have been in can some of these other states, much of the suburbs, civil already moved to the democrats and in north carolina. that hasn't happened quite so much. so in, in essence, what we might think of us being is, is potential upside for the democratic party. to if they couldn't get the suburbs to move in a similar way, particularly those suburbs did around atlanta last time. if those suburbs around

places like raleigh can also move in that direction, then then this potential pick up for that and my credit caught up. i'll just remind everybody that this is the only battleground state, that trump was able to, to winning the election. right. and it's succeed electoral college was. everybody wants that in the bank, right? so that's right. no, it's, caroline isn't goes. and then i know one of the ones that you are particularly looking at. so that is florida, that i think we have a sense of how the votes going. that should be very much uh, almost close to finishing the comp. 83 percent of that for accounts and in florida . is anybody surprised at how is this not a surprise? no surprises base. so that is for that we expect that to fairly close at says the public home state. right. i mean, he's from new york, but the model logo means that he's a resident floridian. so yeah. how fast runs that does have an effect on us selection, where the candidate is from. i think if we learned anything from 2020 as well, is to know of a generalized from florida. quite often. what can happen in florida or is the florida goes in one direction and the rest of the country can govern a different direction. so of course,

this does look like very good news. the says the donald trump, that we need to be careful not to kind of extrapolate out to these other more competitive states and everyone expected trump to win florida. but of course, he's going to look at those numbers and be pleased. all right, christie, thank you. let's go now i understand our washington bureau chief in his pole is standing by. we want to go now to her. it is still very, very early in this evening. and we're trusting, we've been talking about the polls and they're predicting factor in this election. are we, you know, trading at our own risk if we followed the poles and this election as well. you know, there's also a motion of arrow and this is, as this is so close, we can follow the polls and they can be wrong. and they still were right, this makes sense because, you know, if it's so close they can say it goes either way. and this, they still are right. i mean what i find interesting to florida,

i totally agree with your panel. but then what's on some hope here in the united states, because abortion is soul course with reproductive rights are so important for so many women and also mandy under united states that were a slight hold, that this might turn florida to come of that hers. this didn't happen, so that is indeed for some democrats, at least a little bit of adult down or here, so early in the evening, even. so i agree, we shouldn't the kind of over estimate this result is what is a little bit surprising in my take is yvette, apparently more independent folders in georgia on boarding or has been voting for donald trump and last time. and that's also like a little bit of an indication for laurie's here, for the democrats that early in the evening. that's very good for you to, to be. we look at all the, the votes, these early voting trends, what we've seen, and maybe, you know, maybe mike or, i mean,

maybe you guys have noticed this too. it's about 30 percent registered democrats, 30 percent republicans and the other 30 percent 3rd independence. or does that, does that surprise you? no, no, no to, to, i mean this is, this is a kind of weather stablished at this point and we need but we need to be careful when we talk about independence. so there's a, quite a lot of political science literature. this suggests that round about 90 percent of people who identifies independence or kind of independence ignite name only and not really independence. and basically they, they have a soft identification with one of the 2 policies. i do have a preference and basically these independents behave exactly like a pauses on member or identify with those groups. it is really all about 3rd, really probably only about kind of 10 percent of that. 3rd, i'm just like a true independent swing voters who based on the kind of the, the election campaigns of whatever might go from one party to the other. okay. yeah, the, it's not just about swing voters from one party,

the other. it's about bringing voters out to the polls and so the candidate who can really get the energy behind their campaign and get people out to support them. but maybe they were just too lazy on a tuesday evening. go out and vote at the get them out of the chair and to go do that. all right, i mean, thank you. we do have, we've got a team coverage tonight. we've got correspondence there where the candidates are and that includes our chief international editor, richard walker. he is in miami, i understand a mere the trump campaign headquarters if you will. good evening to you rich. right. hi. yes. well, you can say that, sorry to pretty much feels like trump. well, tonight, given 30, it has already been called by a b and several others for donald trump. a pretty early on and this election night and we are at the best i restaurant in this little havana in miami, which is really a hot bed of, of the big cuban community here in southern florida. and in miami. in particular,

i would, as the news of, of the state being called for donald trump, who sort of ripple through the crowd. see, there's been even more excitement. i can tell you it is so like odd years at my smart watch keeps fussing at me telling me this place is very loud. um, so yeah, you, what you see here is a lot of trucks and cars driving uh, stopping and hunting. uh, pretty much just send a break 3 atmosphere here tonight and of course, you know, the standard rate and the result in florida. uh, florida is being called by by many outlets now for donald trump, because people here are hoping that you can extrapolate a i've just seen this means that you guys, soaking the food and should be separate too much for the food for transport to see you stay on hoping that this is a hopping to a big knife to turn rich. let me ask you, i mean, i'm sure you heard the sound that came from donald trump. the day with right after he voted, he was asked about the the election, the campaign. if you had been fair so far,

he said it had been fair so far. i'm also saying that his supporters are peaceful. i think he almost you got the impression that this was a, there i say, a kinder gentler donald trump that we heard today the what are your thoughts on that? yeah, i mean, so we were just outside the polling station in palm beach. so we, we were in palm beach earlier in the day we just came down to miami this afternoon . so we were out that we saw the mistake going in. we waited outside while he voted, we saw the snipers on the rooftops around that kind of watching over in case anything happens. and we were following on live feed, seeing what he was saying. and then i, i think i agree with the bread he did. it was an interesting kind of tone that he tried to strike in that i think it contained really seems a little bit tight as well. i'm trying to say, you know, this has been a fair and extra so far, but he said, you know, everybody's lawyer adopt that it's been a lot of, you know,

everybody is prepared to kind of hit the button on litigation if something happens and they don't like it then during the course of the day after that i me started putting out messages on his social media, but the life change that that was the discrepancies in, in pennsylvania. local officials of pennsylvania quickly came out and said that simply not true. so some would be watching what trump is saying and that situation and thinking okay, is he's showing the seeds put to try to undermine credibility in the result in pennsylvania, which of course, you know, could well be the decisive states on this night tonight. so yeah, well he was setting a seem to set quite a moderate turn in those comments that he made well, basing in palm beach or earlier today, some of the comments you come as you stand pointing in a bit of a direction that of course we've seen in recent weeks to get a sense in the republicans, in some terms, and people like what you know,

most people who seem to be kind of laying the groundwork to potential questioning as a result. if it is a very close result, what did you hear this week? richard from inside the jump to you about their reactions to this poll that was reported from iowa. this week i'm showing it come over here is with a, with, you know, not a small lead. there are a shocking result coming from what has traditionally been a read state. i mean, i read that his campaign insiders were nervous. were almost panic. yeah. well, i mean, of course, speaking on the outside they were, they try to do some asap hole. listen out live, but i think it is one of those and some of the service tab. and you'll have seen a little bit of nervousness among people we've spoken to you today. of course, you know, seeing a lot of i'll be moved here right now, but we've been in florida now for

a couple of days and certainly some people bit nervous about what, what the result might be going on a national level. but i think in, i would put, you know, it's felt like you've read, say recently, but it has always seen that. so it is conceivable that that will happen. and i think this is the, the great unknown about the selection and going into it in the last few days has been okay. on the one hand you had from establishing more of a leads on the national level in the polling averages in recent weeks. i do have from pulling ahead and a lot of the swing states increasingly, but the question that the iowa pole res, particularly because it showed very significant support full tomlin harris and older women. the questions that paul raised was whether the end of the cause might be off the bed and estimating the motivation of particular groups of women in protests. and particularly older groups of women in their desire to push back

against drugs and then decide to use the selection to kind of try to end fix on a real good. we really don't know what the answer that question is. that's what we're going to be finding out tonight. i think that is the thing that has the most searching some of the republican side. but certainly not. i have to say something you particularly seats right now here in the middle. you can tell it right now to move this one instead of raising the day they were celebrating of election victory there. richard walker, following the truck election campaigners tonight, they're in southern florida, which thank you. all right, we're going to go now to washington dc, the nation's capital. that is where my colleague janelle, developed to milan, is standing by she is, i think, near howard university in washington, dc. that's the alma mater of formula harris. that is where she is watching the election results come in tonight. janelle talked to us. we've had some states called already, but no,

no surprises um. looks like florida has gone to donald trump again. that's not a surprise. is no surprise at all and there is no indication at all that that is done. putting the mood here in any way of the capital of our supporters who have been calling you in a study screen to enter a howard university behind me, where the coma la harris election watch party is all set to kick off at 9 pm eastern time. the mood here is still very up, it's still very confident. the people are shrugging off of that news out of florida . you know, florida of course is trumps. home based that is not lost or the people here at all . i've been talking to the people here, one of them said to me that her favorite thing about kyla hours is that she is everything that donald trump is not. and i really do think i would just,

uh those to uh, add to what richard was saying earlier when i think we're at a stage where when people look at polls, when people look at results, they are so far seeing what they want to see. nobody is a bad thing, hope yet. so they are looking at states like florida and saying there is no surprise and, but they are, of course. so i'd like everyone else watching t, whether that's results in those key battleground states, the clear risk path to victory for a capital harris, of course. so being those blue walls states plus one electoral electoral vote for nebraska. i think that is why the people might start getting access as soon as we see those states getting called. but for now it's all easy here. music is playing, people are happy and we did not have video of. kimberly here is voting today because she did not go to a polling place to vote right. a no, she didn't. so she voted via mail. uh, i guess, uh you know, see what

a voted in her home. stay to california and i guess so that is a little far she really wants to she, we've been pointed out with this how little time she's had in our campaign. perhaps california was just a little bit far for her to go in order to vote. that of course, is a 7 hour flight. so from washington dc and in the last states, she had been criss crossing the battleground states. but so she has had a very busy day here on the election day. anyway, so she started with radio radio interviews. in the morning she went to buy the d and c headquarters, but she said hello to phone bankers who were working on her behalf. she even band the phones at one point herself. she thanked all of the count painters working on her behalf for all their support. so now she's are reportedly out her residents having family dinner. that is supposed to be a tradition that she has all the election night to. but of course, people here are waiting for a kind of a lot higher as appearance. nobody quite knows when that might be tonight,

but that is the expected highlight naturally. ok, janelle, thank you very much. look, i'm going to pick up of what we've talked about earlier tonight. i mean, if they come to you this, this gender gap that we're, that we're seeing, or at least the polls that show showed us that we're seeing, pardon me about that. i mean, who are women voting for? who were members? yeah, well, it's been described as 2 different americans. what we're seeing is a huge split in gender in terms of voting, especially when you factor in education level cement without a college education or voting for trump. i plus 16 points, women with a college education or voting for a couple of harris by plus $27.00. when you factor out education, it's looking more like $10.00 and $5.00 on either side. but still that's a huge gap. 27 points in favor of paris for college educated women. that the biggest gap we've seen so far. and yeah, and it also transcending rates as race, ethnicity, backgrounds, things like this. so we're seeing women,

even women who formerly identified as republicans, and formerly voted for trump, coming out for comma harris. some of this has to do with the issue of abortion. yeah, this is was what comma harris is really campaigning on. those is one of the major issues where she got people's emotions involved and there's a lot of her campaign issues are focused on policy. i'm just trying to separate herself from by them. but i'm really where she put her emotional energy was the bushing issue, because it's really important to people united states of just for context under uh, trump, he put in judges on the supreme court. then took away the federal level protections, the constitutional protections for women to get an abortion tended loose. that's on the ballad. it was, it was seen the by the trump campaign as a win as a win because they were going to, you know, get, get even more of those. even jellicoe christian. what. but yeah, i mean i, i grew up in the us. i knew for a long time this was there, a single issue, voters out there who were going to pose just to vote against,

for the candidate who was against abortion. trump thought he was tapping into that, but it seems opinions have changed and we were talking of florida earlier. that's what we saw as florida is a read states voted for republicans in the past several elections. but it had an amendment a referendum on the ballot that need 60 percent to pass and it would institute protections for women to get an abortion up until $24.00 weeks of pregnancy. um, so that is on the valid at the same time that trump is looking to take the state we are seeing now with about 87 percent of the votes counted the 57 percent are voted for the amendment for the abortion protection. so this is for women who want the right to abortion, that's good news. but pollsters might also say that this indicates that well people are, are voting, infrared stayed for worship protections. that doesn't mean they're not voting for trump, of the so yeah, that is a single issue of the, the single issue voter mike, me, when we try to explain the american political system to

a global audience. i mean it's, it comes with challenges, right? you've got only basically 2 parties in the united states and yet with such a limited choice of parties, you still have voters who allow themselves to be steered by one issue. absolutely, i think one of the really interesting things that we've seen and some of the data in, in the publishing project tonight is that it's in particular older women who have, who potentially shifted towards harris. and so some of these older women might literally remember before. roe was codified so in the course roe vs wade was the was the initial decision made in 1973 and the said the abortion would be provided across the entire country. and then of course, the adults, the decision undertaken by these, these supreme court justices in 2022 and did that. so what we're saying is, is there's a specific section of the american public, the american female american women who remember what things were like the full roe

vs wade and a really strongly pushing back and saying, no, i don't. one, we've seen that across the it 2 years ago we had a number of ballot initiatives in really, really red states, even places like nebraska and ohio pushed back against this. but as i'm in says, the does seem to be this continued split. it doesn't mean just because you forward motion writes that you're necessarily not willing to vote for republicans, which as you say, as hi, brenda, from it, from a global perspective, can sometimes be a little perplexing. yeah, it's replacing and we're, we're talking about, you know, cultural wars here, but i remember back in the 1990s there was a candidate by the name of bill clinton who one and he one because it's the economy stupid. right. i mean, they were told that people will vote based on their pocket books. we've got high inflation, where people say it's high felt inflation in the united states, the economy is growing. there's not a lot of unemployment, but it is that's not motivating. so, so i think the,

the salience of the issue of the economy across the last kind of yeah, it's been really interesting. so if you have aust american fighters at the start of this calendar year, well, it's going to be the most important issue in this selection. they absolutely would have said the economy when, when inflation was higher, and as i've had time, as the inflation has declined. and as the american economy keeps improving, i mean, from that, from a global perspective, there is essentially no country that is come out of the pandemic, as well as, as you're only as the united states true. but as you say, there's this deception and the united states economy remains in a difficult place. but kind of, as those perceptions have improved, the relative position to people on so that the economy is the most important issue as kind of dropped down the list a little bit. which may be for the democrats. they'd like it to still be at the top of the list if they could kind of frame it in. in the more absolute terms, you're a truck that has been urging his supporters to stay in line throughout the day wants them to stay in line and vote if they haven't done early birdie. just

a short while ago he posted this message on the social media platform x. i'm going to pull that up, the republicans. we're doing really well if you're in line, stay in line, don't let them take you off that line. load, stay on the line. they can't do anything about it and vote with it when it's big. thank you. that's interesting to you because there was a time when the president, but it's one of the all republicans to vote on election day didn't want to devote early election that is different. this time around, we would remind people to our streaming now and all of our social media platforms that we've got. comments, questions coming in? yeah, we've got questions and just for our view is to happen to be watching on the stream . we're happy to take your questions, i'll be bringing them into a conversation. mike, maybe i'll throw this one your way because one of you was actually asking about the food counter and the process. yeah. and how can it be that with such a small percentage of the votes counted so far that some states are already being

called for either candidate? yeah, absolutely. is that this is a really great question. so, so the way that these projections work is that there is essentially a modeling a system so that they know the characteristics about the percentage of the vote that they have already collected. and therefore they can infer characteristics and likely i'm kind of writing behavior. all of the members of other people within the state. so let's just, let's just take an example of a race has already been quote. so the north carolina governors race has already been quote for josh stein, the democrats, and he's got 58 percent of the value at this point. and his opponent, mot robinson, has only got 38 percent. essentially what the, what these models can do is they can say, okay, what does a 20 point gap there? how much of the vote would robinson need to make up that we haven't currently counted? okay, well we can map out based on the value that he's got the sorry father that does just to kind of an implausible scenario. therefore, the networks and at this point are now happy to say, yeah,

we're going to make the cool. we're going to cool this um for a 1st time. now of course they do one occasion get this this wrong, all they kind of make this cool a little earlier than they then they might wish they had. and then of course, you have a number of executives kind of sitting on their hands and very hopefully and hoping that the thing that they codes and comes in. and so this can be a, a kind of test the issue. i don't think it will be in the north carolina governors rice but, but it can be ok if you're, if you're just joining, is want to say it is 2 30 in the morning here in berlin. that means it is 8 30 in the evening on the east coast. if you're just joining us, this is dw in years special coverage. america decides 2025. the polls have now closed in multiple us states in the 5 this presidential election that we have seen in years. the crucial battle ground states of georgia, north carolina, pennsylvania, and parts of michigan or among those were voting has ended. county is well underway in those states,

the associated press and the american television networks have already called numerous other states for trump, and for here is no surprises so far. it's christy. let's go through the numbers again to bring people up to speed. okay, we are. all right, so let's do that. we can, i mean it's, i think it starts with the basic seo. right? so we're going to pull up that 1st graphic that gives us a sense of where we are in terms of this race. um and i can already see from where i'm sitting. that company has has 49 electoral college votes. so fall going into this. donald trump at $101.00. i imagine a big sizable chunk of phoenix will floats from freida would have made the difference. there right now, but you know, we're still looking at that and we're saying $270.00 is the number that you want to be kidding tonight. it is a number that will take you to the white house essentially. but why don't we now just have a look at the map and see uh, how much has come in already, just as

a snapshot of the country. and also country of silver seeing, right? driving is supposed run wait, what do you see in grey? but we were just talking about the projections that are coming in. so again, the light to shade. this is what you associated press is projecting. the result will be when the full tally does come in. but we've already heard, had some firm results, particularly of the east coast over there. those democrats strong hold. so to say again, no surprises. so when we unpack it at a state level, right, and let's say to the biggest prize of the night, gentleman, what would that be? would you say? so? i mean, yeah, right? that's basically here we go. um, so the 1st thing i have to tell you is that it is still very early tasting this rate on the 8 percent of the vote has been counted. please not meant that there was we were the people that were not expecting anyone to be able to call this vein. yeah, this evening. maybe we may be talking about some time on wednesday, right? if we're, if we're being, if we're not very realistic, i mean, okay, so 8 percent of that foot concert, they come to harris at 72 percent. i mean, i don't even want to quit. please tell me that this is right now, but yeah,

this is, this is a crucial states and that, i mean, is it, is it right in saying that if you to, if you, when pennsylvania would read the chance of winning and i, i think it was the other way you lose the caught yet the it there are pops to victory. suffice candice without pennsylvania but it gets very difficult very quickly. i think all of the moto suggest on the pennsylvania is going to be the most likely tipping point. stay in pop because of those 19 electoral college, right is it just has more of these, these, these electoral college bites then and then it's competitive. it's also a very diverse state. it has kind of big cities like philadelphia, where carmella harris is going to look to run up the school. and of course then there are more rural areas, particularly as we get kind of towards the high. and of course, the trump is going to do better in those areas. and so what we might see here is, is, is kind of a, some boats coming in, we've got wet with different bits come in, then we're going to see this, this, these numbers shifting. i expect that the final result will be very closely because i don't think we,

we've got people asking 100 people been asking the social media to to why is it that you in, in georgia or north carolina? why can we expect to call those states within the next hour or 2, but we can't with pennsylvania? i think one reason is because in pennsylvania is the absentee ballots. for example, they can't be opened until the polling places have closed in the state of pennsylvania. that means just now they are just now opening and processing those balance in north carolina. for example. i mean i did the absentee on voting there. i sent my ballot in last week on let's say, monday by wednesday i got an email back saying that they had received and accepted my balance. so its been process that they're not doing that in and that's pennsylvania. and that's another reason why this, this big split between commer harris and trump in pennsylvania is probably not an indicator, but we're going to see at the end of the counting because historically, and i don't know about this election because we've seen some counter indications, but historically absentee ballots often go in the favor of democrats because there's people living abroad with, you know,

women with higher education. so we're going a much more for a democrats. and so what we're going to see is a big shift. yeah. pennsylvania once they started counting those. yeah, i've seen projections that say that or whoever wins pennsylvania has upwards off and 90 percent chance that sort of winning village that might. pennsylvania also has this, this extra quick way you have to put your ballot. if you want to mail your ballot and you have to put it into envelope, so i put it in a secure envelope and then you put the secure envelope in another envelope. and if you missed that middle envelope, you'll valid ballot is known as a naked ballot already been certain date. yeah. what happens is that then you will get much like you got a message saying your heart has been counted. you then, if you've, if you've submitted one of these make it bothers and you will then get a message saying, oh, by the way, there was something there was a bit of a problem. you would say we won't count this pilot, but you are still eligible to go on cost another pile of provisional ballot on election data. and of course, if we're talking about really small margins here, that's probably going to affect

a few 1000 people. and so then this might drag pennsylvania, you're on even longer, not a good day when you get an e mail, someone saying that you're like, why don't we do another restful survey to write, staying in the industrial hoffman. so it is a michigan. um, let's see how much of the votes been counted there, but this is also, and i mean, it's interesting for me how these states tend to go to the same way each election. right. so it would be wisconsin, pennsylvania, and michigan. so the 1st thing i need to tell you 5 percent of the votes and counts of a. and yeah, of course uh, coming to hers is indeed the same dynamics, right? as with pennsylvania, you've got, you know, that the in the cities of course, and then you've got the suburbs and of course the diversity that we have this. so that is michigan. tonight's 15 electoral college votes up in michigan in the heart of the automotive industry. a lot of these voters here would have been, you know, these are the democrats struggle to have been democrats, strong holds right. unionized workers with a strong affiliation,

but some their swing states in the selection battleground states. i understand that it's we should be getting results from michigan faster than we have in the past. that's the prediction for tonight. but, you know, we're, like you said we're what, what does that 5 percent. 5 percent. yeah, going with michigan will get the votes inside of this is what we're seeing here is likely like the boxes. um the these are the pallets. but then what will likely see is over the course of the next few hours, and that will swing pretty decisively towards trump. yeah, because way, uh wayne county, which is where detroit is the biggest city will be the last to report. and of course, we would expect that a big city like detroit would lead much more heavily towards the democrats. and so what we should probably expect here is that at some point, trump is leading. and then it's just the case of whether the white county, wayne county pallets a going to be enough to then push the push michigan back into your set or to make the point about the arab american population in michigan and how they will be consequential. so this election because of the war in the middle east. right,

right. and i mean, it's a huge issue, not just for air of americans for young voters, 1st time voters for college students. they don't vote in high numbers. actually in the united states and united states does have a problem with the voter turnout and the last election was very high for americans . but it still wasn't on the level of many european countries, not like sweden, not even like germany, for the most part. but back to the air of americans, what we're seeing is it as a shift. we're trump, in the latest pulling data that we have. trump is up by 2 points of 43 to 41 in favor of trump, among air of americans with 4 percent of every american saying that they were going to vote 3rd party. so jill stein from the green party has actually obviously the strongest pro palestinian platform. so she really was appealing to every americans are running made is a rock in american. so really appealing to air americans who were fed up with the policy of the binder ministration. but don't necessarily want to turn to trump, who was present for 4 years and is very pro israel. alright, what do we do to mall if we can?

german raced through north carolina and will do georgia off. elizabeth, see where we are asked in terms of the vote counts in the state of north carolina. this is also a key prize of the nice it's alex d at frank off. that's right, hales from north carolina. okay, so the 16 percentage of that vote counts in of a day and we can see donald trump has a bit of a lead over this. so what are we going to georgia next? georgia to see how far we are in the race. i think that was what we're saying. the predictions are if this, this is true for trump and for a couple of harris if you know if they are able to win both north carolina in georgia to night. if the both of those states are called for one candidate, then the chances of that candidate winning are very, very good says, well, that's georgia as well. they've georgia of the succeed i'd, i should say,

electro cottage woods for north carolina as well as georgia. so combine 32 in the back, the if you take both of those. so again, with georgia, it's going to be a similar dynamic between the urban and rural populations. obviously, atlanta is, is the big city. and on harris were left to run up to school. there mm hm. what would be really interesting to pay attention to is the, the suburbs around atlanta. how much, how much the of the device is harris winning that because i think if we include atlanta and all of the suburbs that makes them nearly 60 percent of the value in georgia. so if, if harris can perform well in the suburbs, that's going to be the key area of for her in georgia. and we have to make the point about georgia, trump or mississippi needs to win georgia, you know, otherwise he's, he's probably gonna have a difficulty getting to the white house. okay, we're going to go back now to florida. richard walker, i've been watching him here on the screen. i mean, it looks like he's, he's, he's got the, he's got the crucially assigned to tonight. looks like a party there and little havana,

richard. and i guess they are celebrating because florida has been called for donald trump, but they certainly can't say that. um, they did expect that. yeah, yeah, i mean that's been expect events with your friends, but i think there's a feeling that the truck is relatively early in the evening. and that to me as opposed to having to steer you know, we've been talking to you from, from here earlier on. and i think this has been released that there was bad weather full costs. which night here in florida it was meant to be raining, but actually it's fine. it's pretty windy, but no rain. now we've got a guest with us before i hit this time, this is april. how the how, who is from the republican party from the local chapter. and this counties put miami data able thanks for speaking with us from dw. so you are here with the republican party, obviously, your terms, the quote to florida as being calls for donald trump. it felt like it was relatively early in the evening. do you feel like that that was earlier than you

expected? well, i mean, i've been a lifelong resident of florida and we're not used to these races being called at 8 pm when the central time zones have closed. were you serious going on into the night? i remember in 2018 we had a re count and it was 10000 votes for the us senate race. when senator scott was 1st selected. and now senator scott appears to be winning by double digits across the state. so it's really a show that the state has trended in a more right direction then where it's been and past cycles. yeah, and that is interesting, isn't it? right? with so many states across the united states, that, that, that they can shift over time towards one pot's. you're away from another party. and of course, many of the older viewers will remember back in the outdoor bus is george w bush selection. it was florida that ended up being the tipping point that brought to george w bush into power, and that was a recount that went on for a long time. that's not the case now,

but there are other states which could be where this election changes. so where do you see the next few states going there were southern states and then other swing states more in the rust belt. where do you see it going? i feel really confident about our odds in georgia. i feel really confident about north carolina. i think we're well positioned, the window states, but trump still probably needs one of the rust belt states copy at pennsylvania, wisconsin or michigan. and i've been using the new york times feature the needle, and it looks like it's a one percent race in those states. so counting will go on into the night, maybe on for a few days might go into recounts, it's very close and it goes to show the importance of voting and this country. you know, this could come down to a fraction of a vote for precincts and a lot of the states and that's where the white house might come down to. and in florida, 537 votes, that's 2000. that's where we very infamous. we had that race in 2000 a look at shows that your vote really does count and there's a lot of cynicism about my boat doesn't matter how it really does. and um,

tonight is an exercise in that for sure. yeah. so we were just talking before we came on and yeah, you, you said, your thought is that the southern states are likely to go towards trump and there is a rust belt that will then be decisive and it really could come down to pennsylvania . so that's the state, yoga me, washington? absolutely. i mean trump needs one of the 3. he needs, pennsylvania, michigan, or wisconsin. um, provided that he takes you to arizona and nevada in addition to the southern states . but pennsylvania plus georgia takes it exactly to $27050.00 holds north carolina and all the other states, the one. so it's very close. there's also that possibility of a tie and you are troll college. i don't think that's going to be the case, but it goes to show how even we split this country really as and again, how important turning out is because these are watching tens on thousands and thousands of votes. and it really is competitive right here in, in america. yeah. so, i mean, that has been the story for quite

a long time that this election could change on pennsylvania. let's see how this night turns out. one thing i'd be not seeing a lot of republicans of the last couple of days that we've been taping down here in florida is would you accept the results if tom last harris wins narrow? it's obviously rate b, or i think in the country, but also in the rest of the world watching this as a repeat of what happened in 2020 and when, you know, significant section of one party rejects it, the result they even led to bottom as dyslexic events to january the 6th. so what do you say to that? we count tomlin harris comes out the way the opposite is selection. would you accept that? look at the end of the day if the election does come down to a decisive man, a difference, right? a matter of a few 100 or few 1000 votes barrow and there will be recounts, there will be litigation processes when there is a dispute over and electrons result the last place to solve it is in the courts of law. and at the end of the day,

what the courts decide are final. and so i will accept the result of a lawful process. and that if there is a dispute, it will go through the courts. those are the appropriate channels for solving any dispute. and if the courts do decide if this election does come to a dispute, we don't know if that will be the case. i will accept the decision of fact and was made by american courts. ok. able thank you very much for speaking to us here in miami bread, back to you in volunteer. all right, richard, thank you very much, richard there. in miami, florida. we want to go now to the us capital in washington, dc. our washington bureau chief in his pole is standing by. is there, there you are. okay. it's not quite as well where you are. it is. so put this in the conference for? no, it's not. no, it's not sorry for you. yeah. no, i agree. i envy. i am a richard a little bit, i have to say it looks really very happy and lively there, and you're also doing

a really likely jump and, and, and building. i really enjoy listening to your expertise. uh it's, it's fantastic. yeah, well i mean, the capital here as most parts of this country uh, is holding its press. i mean, i get messages from colleagues and friends from all over. it's so close, it's soul tide. we hear some information from georgia, that's some areas which were expected to go through. come on the harris, it looks rabo that they go to a to donald trump. so some people are getting really worried. but then again, it's really too early a to make these predictions. i'm also checking websites from different media outlets and there is a small tendency you, the predicting a little bit more into the direction of a window stone from. but again, it's far too early to say anything, but yeah it's, it's an exciting night and everybody is just like holding his or her breath. you just let me get your reaction to this. we've got the p calling these 2 races,

republican marjorie taylor green, waiting re election to the us house from georgia, marjorie taylor green. i think that is a name that has become global. and jim jordan has one re election to the us house. he is from ohio. these both of these are considered big wins for donald trump, aren't they? of course nitrate taylor green. i mean it's, i actually tried to interview her a couple of times. she's on the spectrum. i shall say. she's like, spreading lies from the early days on a very kind of toxic way to do politics. she's very negative. nothing like a politician who was really looking for solutions. she just wants to hurt the other party. so yes, this is also not really a surprise,

but it's also maybe another little assign the ways go as least for now. not so bad. yeah, for donald trump. right? you just voted washington. it is. thank you very much. this is a global, the event is not just an american election. i mean, it matters to the world, the us a superpower. what the us does, it has consequences be far beyond its borders. but that in mind we want to thank you now to our brussels correspondent terry schultz. i understand terry, is that an election party in brussels? there she is. there you look very nice to know i it's all the speed up for the election. so what are they telling you i, i would if i were a betting man, i would say they're hoping that this'll be a night to celebrate couple of harris i. that's right. that's not very surprising. here in europe, europe normally does the fever, democrats, and, in fact, uh, you know, there's a couple of 100 people here in the early morning hours watching the results trickle

in county by county on cnn. and yeah, there is silence when it cut the numbers come in for donald trump and you know applause when they come in for harris. so that's not very, not very surprising. they're also cut out figures of both harris and trump down stairs and you saw a lot of people having their picture taken with the hair is cut out and uh now uh, in these early morning hours donald trump has had his head pulled off. so seems to be a lot of animosity even for a cut out. donald trump here in brussel, it's not a good time to be made out of cardboard. that is for sure. tell me, you and all i have to have spoken so many times about the impact of us foreign policy on europe, the european union. what is on the line tonight for europe, with this election? that's right now most of the people here tonight are your opinions and not americans from what i hear speaking around uh,

sticking around here here at the party and they are incredibly invested in this as you say. now, kimberly harris doesn't have much of a record in europe. she hasn't spent a lot of time here. she doesn't have a lot of experience in foreign policy each, but donald trump does have a record here. you know, he's, he's called russell's ho hole. he is said that he would like, you know, to possibly pull the us out of nato. something that's very important to europeans. and he has said that in, if he gets another term, he'll put tear ups on all european imports. just a week ago, he said that, you know, america's allies are treating it worse than what he said is so called enemies. so certainly, donald trump is not putting out any warm feelers to europe about what it would be like if he gets another term as presidents. you have a long history of covering nato. you know, the, the impact that presidential election can have on the military alliance is data

prepared for another 4 years. of donald trump. you know, both nato and the european union have been very conscious that they needed to make some changes. not just to be ready for a possible next trump administration, but even for a harris administration, that would be less invested in europe. so there's certainly have been some administrative changes made at nato. so for example, um, you know, ukraine would be a big issue of donald trump wins again. um, he said that he would cut off a did that he would basically bring them to the table and everyone knows that would mean russia getting more of what it wants. so nato has actually taken some of the ukraine assistance procedure out from under the united states. and put it under nato said that it would be protected against whatever happens next i'd be european union is said to be holding urgent meetings with ambassador is now talking about what another trumpet administration would mean for them. nobody knows exactly how they could protect against us tariffs,

for example. but it is certainly something that everybody has on their agenda now. it, and i know you talked to a lot of people, a lot of policy makers there in brussels. i'm, you know, behind closed doors are, are they secretly hoping that if the truck wins, you know, he's promised to bring this war in ukraine to an end. we know this war has been very expensive for the european union, also for nato. are they telling you behind closed doors, that that would be a good thing. and in terms of letting up all the expenditure pressure that they've had for the past 2 years, people are tired of the war. now, most mainstream policy makers, ambassadors, the people that i talk to at nato would never say that, that the, their official policy, even in private, is that you probably needs to win this war because otherwise, russian will be empowered to do um, to do something to anita country so people very much want you print to win unless

you're talking to people like hum gary ends and, and as slovakian. so you are openly who openly favor trunk. but other than other than just this very small minority of europeans people, very much tier one, a trump presidency would mean when it comes to ukraine and giving russia the upper hand in that conflict. interior here in germany when president buys visited a couple of weeks ago, basically the details of allies did by the bid farewell. there was a lot of reporting saying that he is the last trans atlantis. i'm. is that something you're hearing there? that people are, they worried that the next president, donald trump or cumberland harris and then the ones that will come after them that, that this connection to europe, that we've had since 1945. that that connection is being loaded away and rather

quick. absolutely. they've been worried about that for years. um, buying really is the last one because there been people um, up previously saying that they were the last ones, but certainly they feel that already was comm layers. now, while of course, she wouldn't be a more attractive choice for president, for europeans. she certainly isn't heavily invested in europe. you know, she hasn't spent a lot of time here as vice president nor in her life before that. and everyone knows that she would not be as in, you know, she wouldn't speak, she wouldn't know as much about europe. she doesn't have close friends here. so it certainly wouldn't be the same kind of relationship as it was with joe biden, where he worked with the same leaders for, for many, many years. so yeah, people are aware of that and they need to adjust to that no matter who wins this presidential election in the united states. all right, cherry schultz in brussels. that's an election party. terry. good to see you and we appreciate you working well. you pardon?

thank you. alright, i understand we've got some questions coming in now and social media from viewers. that's good news, right. so that's right. the gentleman, i'll see you was a really interested to know about what would potentially happen when that result does come in. um, but before we get to what happens or what will trump essentially do if he doesn't win? i think there's an important here about, do we know how people 1st age, how many people voted per male versus how many people will turn out today would have turned out on actual for the day. so what could be said about that? i think really hard when we chatted records when i go into georgia and north carolina is there were record numbers for early body and it was up to 80000000 people. right. voted before the actual fighting day. but it's always the case at to an out on the actual day is really, there is a difficult to predict or do we ever get a good sense of the kind of a cell right. well, because what about 244000000 americans who were eligible to vote, and so we had what about

a 3rd of those that have voted in early voting of which is strong? yes. an important question. when will we see the results? and it's zane, yeah. right. so we know that those will close. they will have closed. so this is really going to come down to it as we've been talking about earlier, just how close it is. i mean, if, if there's, there's a point, a couple of points or more in it, then i would, i would hope that europe in time kind of mid morning or by mid day on wednesday we would, we would have a result in pennsylvania or assess the guys but if it's really close, if it's going to come down to these pallets the then going to be challenged. and then there's going to be all we need to count these extra volume stuff. then we, we might be looking at kind of days again, but in theory, pennsylvania should be relatively quick, where we'll be, we'll have an election that really will take a while to code is if it does come down to nevada and georgia, if it comes down to those 2 states, we know that those states just take much longer to count. and so then we really

wouldn't be getting a result by kind of launched on tomorrow. you repeat in time, if it does come down to those states in the west. but if it does remind you that in 2020 i was sent to pennsylvania after the election. so on thursday, i was sent to pennsylvania where they were counting ballots. they didn't finish until saturday. they didn't even finish on saturday. but they had enough counted on saturday to where they could call the election for the president brought bite. and so it came down to pennsylvania that year. and it was, wasn't until the afternoon on saturday that they're promising. it's not going to take that long this time, but you know, promises promises right front, always going to get kids. and i think there's concerned about what could happen. i think january 6, shift to things where a lot of people here and people are asking, what if trump lose is, could they be riots net, what we saw on january 6, so into, in terms of the, the, the volumes. obviously we have seen 12 on, starts in, in georgia today. so we, we need to, to contextualize this. and so this is, this is a live topic and not kind of a theoretical topic that might come down the track. this is,

this is something that is happening here in terms of kind of pushing back against a kind of legitimate results. the democratic party do have um, some kind of t, uh, colleagues in the way over here that they didn't have 4 years ago. namely, they hold the presidency and of course the, the vice president is a very important figure as the president of the senate in this process. we also saw that there was a, a bill passed in, in congress since 2020 the base to institutionalize the idea that really the vice president's role is really kind of ceremony with the account these rights. of course, if we remember back 4 years ago, trump was pushing very heavily on, on my pins. one of the reasons depends is not on the ticket. this time is because mike pens put the constitution above his loyalty to trump, and trump was trying to get him to, to find by collectors. and what we've got now in this scenario is because that was kind of a loosely interpreted roll roll. at this point,

congress did react to that and tighten the alphabet. and so even if there were there were that kind of pressure, that wouldn't be the ability to get these kind of fight collectors as easily in place. and of course a couple of hours is herself the vice president for the senate. exactly right. but in terms of violence, this might sound way out in left field note, i'm serious. when i say it is to a non is gone and that makes a difference. and this, if you're not following the other dream, is not that it's not who they are, but it, it was in spanish thing and 2020. how much of an effect this had on the electorate? every, maybe 5 people i talked to trump supporters. they would cite to a non, as they're motivating factor for why they're going to donald trump. and it was on these online chat forms, were january 6th, was planned, and it was planned before the election. i heard rumors that they were gonna storm the capital after the election back in a late october. yeah, nobody really took it seriously, but it was out there and we're not seeing the same kind of plotting and conspiracy spears that there is. i think another thing is theory and sold in january the 6th from a security perspective. and one would think that, you know, the, the, the,

hopefully, the relevant people of, of learn from that and, and certainly wouldn't be allowing a riley near the capital or anything like that around that timeline. but i'm, yeah, we, we will obviously hope that that's because it is 3 o'clock in the morning here in berlin. that means it is 9 pm on the east coast of united states. if you are just joining us, this is dw, there's a special coverage american decides 2024. the americans have elected a new president. who that will be? well, we're still waiting to find out that we've got some numbers that will give us some clue. that's right. why don't we, why do we have them look at how that race is shaping up that race to $270.00? of course, i'll imagine another tonight is $270.00. that is the number of electoral college votes that on need is to secure a victory and a mean. why don't we just take a pause here and just discuss the electro college for all view is who on versed well versed in in,

in the system. just give us an explanation of what this electro college is facing for an american who is the one for the school system. you still need a refresher every now and then. so the u. s. is the only presidential democracy in the world where the winner of popular vote doesn't necessarily become the presidents of the loser of the popular vote that might become the president. and that's because we don't in the us. so directly for president, we vote in each state, for electors, the number of the lectures is based on the population of the states. so that's why everybody's focused on pennsylvania. happens to be the swing state with the most electors. a california is a huge state, has 54 electoral college votes, but we basically know that it's going to go democratic, it's gone them or product in the past several elections. so that's a safe state. so that's why we're all focused on swing states because you don't need to get the popular vote overall. you need to get a, the popular vote in a certain number of states this year. it's 7 where the vote is soso. the margin is so small that the number of electro votes could go either way and don't forget,

this is winter takes off. so if you vote in pennsylvania, several 1000000 people live there. but if it goes in favor of trump by 10 people's vote, or in florida and 9 in 2000 for the bush, one by 537 votes, all afford a 3011. i think back then it was different, but this year it's 3030 electro called pro. it's goes just to the winter of the state just. that's why we're so focused on electoral college votes. and that's why we're so focused on swing states because that's where we don't know where these number of electoral college votes are going to go. yeah, and the, and there are 7 swing states this time around here, right? yeah. so why didn't we go and have a look now, because more polls has been closing, so disabled closing at, let's have a look at the geographical map and that will give us a sense of what the sort of the tally is a nationwide or i guys, let's see how well you know the map, what can you see in terms of what's been called? we're still waiting for some concrete results to come out of certain places like texas for example. i'm pretty sure we'll be getting

a result of the texas very soon. it will probably take a republican, but look at everything else. i mean, illinois, they all, we've been saying that we don't have many surprises right now. you're north dakota will likely end just because you out here is obviously the light to shade is the projection of what the result will be when the full tally come see it for our view is going to just be clear on that. so the light blue means we're expecting them to go democrats right? light red means republican. that's right. dark colors are the ones where they have already been called. exactly. so look at illinois, and then of course you'll, you'll states in it on the east coast over the vermont from the likes of main, etc, which we know have gone at one stage, democrats, so to say. so that is how that map and it's you'll see that as a time its own shifts to the west coast will get more color on that map. they'll be less gray on that. but we would, we, before we came on air, remember you, you were telling us some of that, but how often is the,

the rate and election when the map was straight? i mean, i've never seen something like that, right. and we would have a map looking like that the opposite of a see says, was a, minnesota the any for the can we pull that map back up again and the geographical mac, back on the because the, we need to look at what is being projected. yes. right now, can we pull that map back up? so george and north carolina both. i mean, it's still early. they haven't, they, these have been called but the projected, the thinking is that they were tending to go. so we were saying earlier, if georgia in north carolina, both swing states go for donald trump as the chances of a hair is victory or diminished significantly, then she needs to sweep the upper midwest. she needs to take pennsylvania and michigan in wisconsin. i will say that these, these votes, i appreciate the georgia, north carolina run on this difficult,

the kind of light red. yes, i'm, let's be very, very careful. we don't have the full picture here. we know that in georgia, atlanta, which is where ours is going to get most of, of our, the, those votes and not going to come in. we've got to remember the, the votes don't come in across the whole state at the same time. and we know that the geography of the state is really important. i'm so if you've got a big city, like i said, like a like in atlanta or in georgia or a detroit michigan. that's where the, the, the democrats are gonna run out. the school. i'm gonna gonna deal with those fights . so it really depends on the, the makeup of what those folks that we've got at the moment. or if it strongly leading towards mailing pallets, then we would expect that the democratic party would, would perform better if we've been go. then, then over time, then the kind of more rural areas from the republicans coming in. and then at the end we likely see these kind of big urban areas. and so we have this kind of this tim portal shift of, of who's the head. so i appreciate the reading them out right now,

but the georgia and north carolina very provisional. we're not making any statements about those, but i really, you know, talking about having code these, these dark blue states. um yeah, so for example, here we can see the light. if we look at somebody like kansas, the k us in the middle here. the moment that seems like blue now everyone would very strongly expect that donald trump is going to wait in kansas. probably these, these, this light blue comes from the male invalid leaning more. yeah, credit, that's fine. that's right. but i mean it's, i mean, just looking at the top, the rust belt, uh, pennsylvania, michigan, light blue again, we've mostly, you've given us that heavy off, but that trend of they go the same way and 10 to the same way, right? so there's 3 states in particular tend to tend to move is a unit they have kind of similar demographic properties that have kind of similar kind of backgrounds with industry. and so yeah and, and then similarly, you have this, this division between one or 2 big urban areas,

the strongly democrat and then move rural areas that then lead to what you're describing to. i think nate count of the new york times was calling this to like a read mirage that you get as we're going through the evening where you think that these things are or 10 they are going to be what read or republicans for. that's because, as you're saying, the demographics and um, the books be counted still haven't this, of course, especially last time when, when so many people invited by mail. and if it's been trump said dining via by mail . of course, what this does is it also opens up opportunities for, for maybe in this areas, canada, to say, hey, this doesn't seem right, little copies in the lead. and then suddenly it will, these pilots, we've found that that has been exactly what trump has been saying in the past. so we just need to be really careful besides this, okay, what it might be that it looks like is leading one life, but then we get all the votes in from somewhere like atlanta or detroit and thought, well that is, is the full picture is no, that's right, it is now that someone's done anything to various

a or found any other vice and why didn't we just write it down very quickly on it, on the state by state basis. so let's, let's get to north carolina. we can get a sense of how much of that foods actually been counted. factoring in the carrier that we've presented up frontier. so let's have a look at the state of north carolina and 40 percent of the food has been counted to maps. would you say that's still to any to, to make a quote, right? yeah, good. so it will make some, it depends with that 40 percent comes from what percentage of that 40 percent is come from maryland ballots. what percentage of that is coming from kind of rural areas where i would expect the largest cities big places like in raleigh, for exams are the charlotte, i'm gonna, i'm gonna take long god just because of the nature of a divide that i'm and so again, it would not surprise me to, to see the over the next couple of hours that lead for trump increases. but then when we get near the, near to the 100 percent, then we get something that kind of fully reflects the picture of what's going on.

and it might be worth saying for just for international audience, a lot of times when you look at the united states, you see all the different states and you think, oh, this is like the european union, every but the countries divided by state. but the major divide that, that i see anyway, and i think most people in agreement is between cities and countries sides of urban and rural areas. so the red states and not necessarily they have their own issues that they're voting for. what you see in a red state is generally where the population is divided more, more evenly distributed between rural and big cities. whereas you have a place like new york, where most of the population lives in new york city. so it's an urban state, you know, and the world on issues that are important to people who live in big cities. there's also huge animal immigrant communities. they have a higher black populations and black americans vote for democrats and higher numbers. so what you're seeing really when you look at this map of us, where you see red and blue states, you're seeing a kind of general breakdown of where the urban populations, where there are the very good point. what do we do in georgia?

a place which is up to the city of atlanta, which to your point, right, where you have a huge voting drop off african american. so right, so we're almost 70 percent into that for accounts of, of a donald trump having that leads. that is, of course it's getting is getting the, getting the difference is getting smaller at with, as more of the votes commit between the 2 can get. and we'll just remind everybody that this is way by than one, right? in, in, in 2020. it was that unexpected flip that bite and took georgette and we saw that 1st hand because when we're in atlanta, georgia where you have it, that's the biggest city in the south. lot of people say this is a very high black population there. and there was huge lines to vote, a lot of people came out and strong numbers to vote for buying, especially from the documented there. and it took a long time to count those words. since then, what you've seen is republicans, we're trying to counter that by and implementing laws that would make it

a more difficult for those communities to vote. and that's the way the democrats frame it any way you've had. right after that election you had the local republicans implemented law where you weren't allowed to hand out water. you haven't the calling stations and i remember being there. it was like 90 degrees fahrenheit. so in that high thirties, it's also useful the everybody, somebody passed out to be taken away on a uh, in an ambulance. yeah. so water was very important as well. one of the things i kept people standing in lines for that long. so there is a push in states like georgia to make sure that the urban populations and vote for democrats, that it might be not as easy for them to come out in strong numbers. what was thing just as a, just as a data point here, of course, from that from these in these states, what we're saying is roughly an extra 5 percent shift towards trump in these rural areas. but we're seeing a shift back to what's harris in these most suburban areas and again, room in the suburban areas of shifting slightly towards harris and the more rural areas,

the shifting towards trump. but we just don't know about the urban areas. yeah. and so there was some reports people to say particular, i saw a bunch of people joking at earlier in about philadelphia. i'm just that just massive amounts of time out way high a ton out and we've seen, but we just don't know yet because these are the places that take the longest account by the very night. so they receive that huge cities, but it's just a huge amount of people in these places. and so we might look about georgia result for now and say, oh okay, that's a bit more even with the knowing the volume that we've got at the moment. that's a bit more towards trump than we thought. but if the, the bit that we haven't got yet, moves even further towards harris, then she is a, she's like me still going to invest. and we are so condition to because of the way of politics in general is reported, but particularly the united states were conditioned to um, to expect this horse race reporting. right. so, you know, you're told, here's a head today who's the head tomorrow, but actually that has no impact on who actually wins the race. so you mean your point is well taken. patience is really

a virtue on election day and may have get you elected. but the way you put it brings said merrick has already chosen the next president. we just have to find out who was the answer. right. okay, let's do one more pennsylvania because this is really the big prize of the night. 19 electoral college votes. it's a key, a states, some protection such as that new when pennsylvania and you've called it up was of a 90 percent chance of making it into the white house. said let's just begin with that initial caviar that any 18 percent of the foot. listen, 5th of, of us have been counted in that pennsylvania comedy harris with a sizable needs over there. but this is, of course, of course you'll stay pennsylvania going into the selection. okay. that's. that's the last one that's around the now. yeah. all right, well good. um, let's see then if we can go to janelle, who is standing by in washington dc. she is near there. i see right now she is near

the cumberland harris election party. janelle, okay, talk to be we've, we've had some states called a but again, as we were saying, it's still early days or it is still early days. but what i am noticing here brands is that the mood seems to be getting a little bit more anxious about it was when i arrived initially. and when i started talking to voters campbell at harris voters earlier today. now of course, they're still coming in droves. if you can see that behind become a ours is expected to speak between 10 to 11 eastern. everyone's still very excited for that. but you do see a few more people now refreshing those electoral maps on their phones. everybody a little bit more worried about how strongly donald trump appears to be performing in georgia at the moment. now georgia, of course, it is one of those 5 or how do you feel tonight,

all loving the experience. very inspirational. we definitely want comma to when the presidency go, come come along. all right, so while i was talking about so on, the voters being anxious, clearly we just spoke to 11 man who was still feeling optimistic. but in any case, so i was talking about george. and george, of course, being one of those states where democrats really did pen those pen there hopes on job by the end of course thought delivered a victory in georgia, but very narrow lead. but there were reasons for them to believe that campbell, a high risk could do well in the state. so i heard one of you mentioning the risk, the a record turned out of all early black voters. it's the record turn now. it's in the atlanta suburbs, all those were reasons for democrats to hold that a good turn. well of course, there was also a record turned out for rural voters as well. so the republicans could be claimed the same. but there was the other a galvanizing issue in georgia, and that's uh,

the near total abortion done. their voters were thought to have been galvanized by the issue because there was one george, a woman, amber thurman, who died of complications after a died of complications from uh, an abortion medication after she had all the to call to use accessing or emergency care in the state now of course, so not all the votes have been counted yet to, but at the moment as it turns laurel, the more read that is done fitting enthusiasm somewhat among. com, a lot higher of supporters. but of course, so there's several ways to go. as you've been saying, brent, i just want to be clear on that. you said that kimberly harris is scheduled to speak between 10 and 11 pm. your time scheduled is a strong word. that is the expectation now of course, so we never, we never know how these things will turn out to exactly what that is. what people here are counting on. okay. alright. well,

stand by. we're going to go to richard. i told richard just standing by in florida . richard, i guess right now you're seeing more red on the map. and i guess that explains on the move where you are in southern florida. yep. it is being used pretty good. moodle ready when we arrived here before and the results started coming in, but i think let's, let's take a look at the crowd now. it's been these pretty heavy crowd most of the evening since we got here. so how long as we been here now for a little more than 3 hours. but as soon as news came through that florida was being called for donald trump by a p, which we follow. and also many of the other atlas then of course, it to going to pretty much it a new level here. people realize of course, this is just one state. it is a means that they can a winds the whole race, but certainly party atmosphere right here in the middle have and right now brand

and seizure in florida give us just a primer if you will. we're waiting for some other states to come in. but um florida is now a solid red state. why is that richard? i know you've been there many times reporting anyway. yeah. yeah, so i mean, i've been so the last time i was remembering based on these trips to the last time that i was here, covering elections in saturday. 2016. so 8 years ago, 2 cycles ago. and i was covering that election campaign was turned into the trunk bus. was hillary clinton elections, the notorious one in 2016 that really should put democratic policy to it's cool. hillary clinton business kept this candidate from the democratic party being beaten by this outside at the time. we were in florida at that time to see the primary going on and that you saw

a marco rubio was one of the more established candidates within the republican party. he's a pause, a floridian. the senator from florida. he's still in the senate and he's now a fully paid out from school to reach you pretty much have to be on the anywhere and the republican party from the states back then he was somebody who was hoping to delete the policy. it didn't turn out to him, but i think it's been a, it's an interesting sort of demographic process that you see happening over the years in the united states that states shifting political, florida. it was for a long time seem is this when state is being seen is increasingly politically conservative in recent years. and it's brought me a kind of a migration uh thing that is going on to get more and more people moving to florida, particularly retirees agent, to be more conservative. and that is shifting the state more conservative. there's been some interesting work done in recent years, looking at this, the sort of ideological searching of the united states, the you have people who are a more conservative and

a liberal estate in finding that they move to a more conservative state because they really are more comfortable that and vice versa. i just, yesterday, just last night in palm beach, we were, i got a riley a little bit like this, just down the road from our lago, with toner, from, had to stop. we were speaking to a young republican sat here using his late twenty's, and he said that he moved to florida just a couple of years ago from massachusetts. you said paul, leave for that very reason that he felt he was a young, conservative in massachusetts himself and he just didn't really fit anymore. he looked at a state where the republican governor, who was always made grapes one percent, is the somebody who actually wanted to be the $1010.00 digit this year and also didn't work out for him. but this is the state that you see being seen as more of most of the republicans that we so then tonight is think you're getting cold. so early for donald trump. yeah. i mean, social media has put us in these ideological, i'm silos. i guess

a knock on effect is that people are now moving on to be physically in those silos to having a neighboring things like you seems to be what more and more people boss, richard, thank you very much. we're going to go from. yeah, i think we're going to, we'll be back in just a 2nd with you. we want to take a look now they're at pennsylvania. it is the largest of the battle ground that stays with 19 electoral college votes. and here's watson, voters. i've been saying today on this election day, i don't want in an autocrat. i don't want someone who is convicted of a felon to be the number one person in our political environment. i am hopeful, i feel there is a blue wave. i just hope that america votes the way they're moral are, i mean, we want a moral person guiding our country and we need jobs. we don't need another form or

a year is a higher version gas prices lie, a was a border, murder america account, as far as in harris is not going to support that. i feel like she's going to put us back together. i think that, you know, she'll put the, the whole community, the whole world back together again because we're still divided right now and she's about piece and everything that her opponent has to say is like really negative all the time. like, nothing ever positive. you know everything, so i feel like, you know, that's why i'm voting for her because i want peace are. all right, those are comments coming from voters and pennsylvania. we've got comments now coming from you watching us on social media watching our live stream. christine, you've got some of those questions, we'd love to comments, but we, we left the questions to even more. right. and why didn't we go in there? because, well, actually let's talk about the party candidates and i think i'll bring this one. see, i mean, could independent candidates, jo stein and robot kennedy, determines whether or not with a trump will harris wins?

well, 1st i'll talk about joe stein, because she's running for the green party. was the 3rd time she actually didn't rent a run and 2020 of the green party, nominated how hawkins. but she's back this year and she's picked up a lot of the vote for people who are especially angry about the democrats position on the war and gaza. and some military support for israel. so a lot of young voters in the air of american voters. and while she's only pulling a little bit over one percent nationwide, which wouldn't have an effect on an election. that was probably what was going to split by more than one percent of it all depends on the swing states. so don't forget jo, buying one by several 1000000 votes, the popular vote. but in the end, it came down to a tens of thousands of votes in pennsylvania to find the called the election for him. so it could be a very close vote, and she definitely has higher margins in several swing states. and then the margin between trumpet harris so it could affect the election. the other thing is our f. k junior, robert f kennedy junior, was running his

a 3rd party candidate the most popular 3rd party candidate. so joe, simon gets a lot of heat, but he was the one who was going to take a lot of votes away from donald trump. but he dropped out any doors. donald trump, he's actually been promised the account of position and doing something with health . i think and in terms of ministration, but the problem is it's still a lot of ballots. so his med size is messages don't vote for me. if you want me to get into power, then vote for trump and he'll give me a cushion position after he went off and just headed back to jill set, the democrats have spent a lot of money advertising to people in the battleground states that a vote for joe stein is effectively of a for trump, is how they're communicating that message to vote. and they've also found her getting onto balance. so she's not on a balance and a lot of democrat controlled states and rather than republic control because it's democrats and was worried about her. so they fought and given her legal challenges and prevented from getting on all 50 states out one more at so a recent full, we know that in the right, this was a shop full right. that came out in iowa, suggesting

a 3 point advantage. full comedy harris. do you anticipate this summative pest him to imagine as a traditionally red states? i guess the question is here could more states become swing states and the selection is the so this was a super interesting poll. this poll was done by a postal code and selves. so who is probably the most, if not one of the most respected posters in the entire country, most famous the during the pose of the iowa caucuses. she's specifically based in, in iowa. and so yeah, she had harris plus 3 in this paul, that was within the margin of error. i think the motion or was about 3.4. so it could have gone either way according to have po. but what we're going to remember is trump one iowa by 8 points in 2020. so this is, this would indicate an 11 point swing. and in particular, this was really interesting if you looked into the logical crust tabs. and we see here that the elder women older women, and we talked about the, the abortion issue already today. but particularly the older women were going disproportionately and this power of the,

for harris. the other thing that this poll does is very different to all the polls . so all the polls do what's called waiting on records 2025, and it's a bit technical here. but what they're doing is they're asking you to remember who you've used for last time. and they're making the results weighted based on this. now, this is a very clever and small thing to do, but by all these other posters. if the electra in 2024 looks the same as the lecture in 2020. so the, quite an selves that does not do this. so the question is basically, do we think the lecture is it'd be the same this time around as it was 4 years ago . and i think there are reasons to suspect it might not be if that's the case and then then then selves may well be proved, correct? if that's if that's what's happened. well, the, the initial things we're looking at right now suggest the whole of the other kind of the traditional post as appeared to be on the money where we're looking at the margins looks about where we would expect from the polling. and so that would, to me suggest that no,

we really are going to be focused on these on the 7 states in terms of kind of be on to night kind of longer time trends. we do see the time to texas is slowly trending towards the democratic party. i'll be very surprised if, if a presidential level not in texas kind of goes anything other than the republicans before about 2030. but i'm certainly not tonight. so now for tonight i think we should focus solely on the 7 states. right. um but, but of course it's good to think about kind of, why is it these states the matter? and obviously we'll just keep, just keep off and on iowa, just to see how close it is to 2020 or how close it is to to solve this problem suspect. yeah, well, thank you for those questions guys. great questions. keep them coming at. we'll even here for now. yeah, more polls have now closed in key us states in the tightest presidential election that we have seen in a long time, the crucial battle ground state of georgia, north carolina, pennsylvania, michigan, arizona in wisconsin. are among those were boating is in the county is well underway,

associated press and us television networks have already called numerous other states for trump and for harris with both candidates picking up early expected when it's and i'm seeing here christine to is more and more of the pollsters that we follow are saying that george in north carolina are looking looking, is still early, but are looking more and more like trump or wins and the status of the case, then kimberly harris will have. she'll have to sweep michigan pennsylvania in wisconsin as possible, but it's a, it's somebody that has to happen if she is to win. but, but again, as we've been saying, as mike has told us, that we have to wait until these numbers come in. that's right. and why don't we look into those numbers now? why don't we actually just start by looking at a geographical map of the country. so to get

a sense of how the races is shaping up, how that map is coloring in of, of this. so let's just take a look. and again, as we've been saying, what is in the lights, a shade is what the projected result will be according to the votes that have been counted. and of course, some states have already been quoted, but let's have a look at that. and to your point, brent at the associated press is projecting the georgia in north carolina. that is a combined $32.00 electro college foots. if those go to donald trump at comedy has, has to do quite a lot of speaking. i'll be in the rest both. she's got to. yeah, she's got to pick up all of those 3 states and the rest both to be able to stay in this race. so to say, so that is how it is. and you, as you can see, most states of voting has closed and we're now in the counting process which is underway. why don't we now just maybe have a look at those states close to the now we'll begin with peps, north carolina. let's have

a look at how metro bedford has actually been counted. we know it's projecting read for donald trump with his need of. let's say it's getting closer to the safety and the off of the votes has been counted in north carolina. the purple stays. so again, in north carolina, you're not allowed to count the ballots until until this morning. and so you can only start counting even the ballot. so even french ballot does not get counted until today. and so, so there's, there's going to be a chunk of those pilots, but the road pallet sized pallets so lead democratic. but then what we'll see is that the smaller counties will be able to get their results in earlier. so these are the counties that we expect, as we've talked about this kind of roll up and divide, we expect by the smaller counties are going to be going more if the trump and then as we get to the logic counties, we're going to expect them to go to more for harris. yeah, and of course by definition those logic counties just have more votes and them so we might still see a lot swinging. this is, this is obviously very,

very close. and we've got you huff hosted hosted by his counselor and, and 3 points in it. so i get very, very close and enough color. why do we have a look at the georgia us and other one of those battleground states that is trending ridge? let's have a look at how much of the of accounts is in, in georgia, will 75 percent of the votes in, in georgia. and trump. i mean, it's a narrow lead. so to say right, is this, this nick on nick? that the polls were predicting, are we seeing that say off here i i think so again, i again without, without looking too deep to into, into further detail about what, what the question is then which 25 percent is not counted. so if, if there's 25 percent is disproportionately coming from the city of atlanta, which then then dot city is going to go for her as her as well when atlanta and she'll rack up the school with this. so the more more of that vote that is coming from atlanta, the narrow what the, the remaining volume is coming from atlanta,

the, the price that we would expect this to be. and remember, harris does not need to, in atlanta, with, in georgia. georgia is a more important state for trump. harris is clear as pos and e as simple as possible. victory goes through the off the midwest, guys through wisconsin, pennsylvania and michigan. right. let's have another 2 mall, uh, pennsylvania, which is of course, the big price of the nice. it has the most amount of electrical college. first of all of the swing states that would be 19 electrical college where it's 27 percent of the of it's been counted, they come to house in the needs a gist of 55 percent. i think the caveats have been well illustrated. again, the summative dynamics, i mean, as you were saying, i mean it's this rural, sort of urban divides in, in, in the states. i've been, so this is really the microcosm with the united states. this, this one state right with the trump campaign is really hoping for here is that the posters got it wrong and that it isn't actually a close race,

but who are going to sweep it because of what kind of gives cala harris this campaign? the jitters is that hillary clinton was expected to when you had a 5 point lead need in this the ap pull it national, pulling average right up until the election at she won actually 2 by 2 percent in the popular vote. but then last the electoral college, then what you saw with joe biden when he won in 2020, he was predicted to win by a margin of 8 coins. and in the end, he pulled off a 4 point margin, which gave him the narrowest lead in the electoral college vote. so with comma harris, if you just look at the, how the polls have done in the past, if you just forget all the rest of the context, that really looks bad for comma harris, that it's neck and neck. because the last 2 democrats had a huge leaves the diminished when you got to election day. and she had no lead going to election day. but as you were talking about earlier, the, the polls posters are always looking at the last year and trying to correct it or

their biases for their mistakes or errors. but we don't know if the guest rides and corrected them, or if they got to completely wrong again. yeah. and i have to make the point, i mean, pennsylvania is way we've seen the campaigns spend most of the financial resources, right. a lot of money is getting says record number is a lot if it's been these tv ads, right. the sort of traditional television messed television ads, trying to reach out to voters who are reliable, reliable, the right, right. say come out on posing day, happen to still watch television. yeah. linear television as a way. so if you go there i, i did some door knocking and pennsylvania just to get some people to talk to me about the election. and i think they opened the door like yes, yes and voting the i was one of the, from the campaign because they really the swing states get like on the far it is with a campaign or a text messages as well. yeah. honest. and i can test that by phone was blowing up

the last 3 weeks, then i would run back, you know, please stop. i voted that they were to do, they were checking me and said they were paranoid that do that. i was like okay, well, why didn't we have looked at one more wisconsin? um, it should. i mean, this is also one of those 6 states. i think the rust belt that is crucial. let's see if we can bring that up. uh, okay, so 30 days in this race, guest and 20 percent of the eclipse and come to the and that there is the wisconsin for you over there. but also one of those russ both states that has been a traditionally a democratic stronghold, but is a swing state and this election a super important state of both candidates. both would be looking to to bag this one. right. yeah, i mean, i think very little to say about this at the moment as, as with some of the others incredibly close to a very small amount of the device has been counted here. um yeah,

of course and just advice. both candidates. so again of been hitting this hall, this was of course, the site, the hillary clinton kind of famously overlook and i've looked and someone took for granted didn't spend much time campaigning that. and of course, trump winning that was, was important for, for getting and by the line in 2016. so i got both candidates taking the state very seriously this time and we'll, yeah. and then looking at 2020 biden, to the states with just $21000.00 plus. yeah, i mean, can we also talk about the, the generational impact of, of this election we've, we've talked a lot about the baby boomers, there's also generation x. that is the millennial generation z who's, who's making the biggest impact or who is expected to make the biggest impact in this boat. is it still boomer land? i think so. yeah. as you said previously, i mean, these are the people who just turn out and reliably if i turn off the time off to time. i think what's been really interesting is with consecutive agend z. and there's been this big shift and we've talked

a little bit about the agenda got already tonight. but there's been this big shift where basically jen z men are kind of in the same place, the millennial men in terms of advising behavior. but jen z, women has gone right across to the, the refund. so the, the democratic policy. and again, if we think about the kind of age probably fall off these people and some of them are you see the whole like the whole kind of adolescence and, and, and remember, and has been with donald trump as a political figure. yeah, i'm on i so the other day and you know, some of the content from the try to some of the kind of more offensive content, the access hollywood type with trending for 2016 with trending on tick tock. yeah. they bought, covered at the gym, z would have, would, would, would not re discovering this, they were discovering it for the 1st time and very young age years ago, 8 years ago the, the youngest vices of the election were 10 years old and they didn't, they didn't experience this and so so particularly women of the age group. and so it'd be

a big question for the harris campaign is. okay. the they overwhelmingly support the harris campaign. can we get you to the bottom? if we, if she's brass exactly, exactly the, this, this whole where when she launched a campaign, this whole like engagement with these pop culture means and recognition in this way. it's definitely just absolutely the target audience. well, i have to raise the flag here though for gen x, i think i'm the only one of those tables are best. uh, we always get here. we are all waiting for got in here for the yeah. gen x is the, is the company as reliable as the baby boomers, right? because retirement is not that far away from some very older. it actually is, i don't know them, but they exist it so interesting the, the most conservative generation in, um, uh, in the united states. so, so in europe we tend to think of kind of the older you are, the more conservative you all, that's not quite true in the united states. obviously the,

the genetics are slightly to the right and slightly more republican then baby boomers. but ours it's, it's just the question of numbers and that's right, brent and the, there's the baby boomers as a, as a bigger generation. that right? yeah. the baby boomers, they had, they didn't do like their parents. they decided to have one kid instead of 2 to, well just just bring us back to the numbers now. i think everybody's looking at the screen. so $270.00 is the mock that you want to be getting tonight. so far, donald trump, in the need was 178, that harris at 99 waterfall view is actually all seen the question with trumps. lead growing can harris even when now? absolutely. yeah. again, still far, far too early. and again, let's think about what those numbers mean. those numbers from trump almost all coming from states. we fully expect to trump to win, just for the geography of the state. harris has still got some numbers in the bank that just on the whole of the west coast, and that's a big number of california with his 54 elect to revise his death. and you're going to go to the harris. i'm so sorry. yeah, it's fall,

fall too early. don't worry about the overall numbers we, we basically know when, where uh, $43.00 of the states plus the so you're going to end up. it's just about these, these 7 swing states. and again, all of those swing states at the moment of uh, off to close to go is gonna take longer than the tick tock video. yeah, unfortunately. so i brent. yeah, exactly, exactly. we do, we do have some results from, from kind of down to follow. i know we want to focus primarily on the presidency here, but we've got a couple of of some interesting results of the, the florida abortion bills that needed 60 percent deposit and that is not policy did get 50, did get the majority, but it's failed to pause with 57 percent. well that means is florida, 6 week abortion band stays in place. this was a constitutional amendment. the people to try to, to, to amend that. and also bit of news. we have the 1st open, new trends member of congress elected. so sarah mcbride, the democrat, has won the delaware house states. so a little,

a little bit of history that has been made the already tonight and dealt with that issue will be made tonight, regardless of who wins. right? well, as the 1st woman all will have the 1st convicted felon, but can we talk about this? one thing that we have not mentioned and very much, and that is joe biden, it's his legacy. his impact is all over the selection and my right. i mean, what was it 4 months ago, he was still there. consider the candidate. that's right. i mean, so what has what is do bite and done to this election tonight? well, the interesting thing is that i do think for a lot of voters coming, harris has managed to separate yourself, at least visually call it spiritually from joe biden, spite the fact that she was running made and his vice president approved of a lot of the policies that he put through, but just on cheer and her her image. she's definitely the opposite

of joe biden. we were talking about the young voters. trump thought he could, he could really clear them in with his a, a nomination advance as vice president. but that don't forget was before those joe vide exactly dropped out, and comma harris won the nomination of the democratic party. so once she became the nominee, she was the youngest candidate on the ticket and then it made trump look like one of the old men who was running for president. i don't think that's it. despite all the disenfranchisement of all the this engagement of young voters and the, the, it does appeal to them that it's not just an old, shaky man who wants to take over the white house for the next 4 years. bite and dropping out of the race was definitely the best thing that could happen for the democratic party and the worst thing for the republicans at that time. but the fact that joe biden is the sitting president and come with harrison, his vice president may not be enough to convince voters that she is the developer change would be, is there? is there a agreement that if i had stayed in the race that we would be talking about a, a landslide victory?

i think this was, this was a really interesting development. the way that the, the democratic party was able to do this. people like nancy pelosi and behind the scenes were able to engineer this, this, this decision. i think a lot of people up until about point or what saw some of the floors particularly alter that. that debate you had at the end of the board and had at the end of june . and so that, you know, this wasn't the easiest sales of the american people that this person could go on is rich. but, but one of the things that's really interesting is how quickly the democratic party managed to do that. and if you think about that compared to say, the republican party, there were a lot of people in, in, particularly in congress and the republican party who would have preferred to move on from try. but i remember the covering the election in 2020 and when by one of it just stands out in my mind of him saying that he wanted to be a bridge president, which i think everyone understood to be

a one term president. and so after the mid terms and in 2022, when nothing came from bite and about stepping down, then there was this feeling of he's, he's building a bridge a little too far, steve. i mean, what's, what's interesting to me, those, that he's building a bridge with that with comma harris, who has chosen for a lot of reasons. but one of them was not that she was the most popular, the 2nd most popular democratic nominee. if i remember back at the time when joe biden won the democratic nomination, yeah, it was bernie sanders. it was pulling in the lead even even one, several states as a democratic nominee, he was able to get a lot of young voters to support him, even though he would, he would have been even older as older than joe biden. if you became president. but he was appealing to young voters, so the bridge was in the news or on his part to, in some ways push bernie sanders out of the way, make room for comma harris and kind of you know, clear the grounds and make the united states ready for a female president,

that's another thing that she does. she's very rarely mentioned is the fact that she would be the 1st being present. it's not like hillary clinton kind of made that part of a platform that she was a woman and she was going to break the glass ceiling with the hair is kind of ignoring that issue because i think she's all ready to enter the politics politician. issue right, you know, she's not, i think it speaks for itself who she is as a person, but she, if she plays that down because i think the lessons learned by the democratic party since hillary clinton's failure was that this isn't something you campaign on. you can maybe just be confident and, and let it speak for itself, but it's americans are not going to go to the polls and vote specifically for a woman. yeah, well we do a one of the electorate, and this is not just for the united states, but this is all over the west, particularly. it seems have been conditioned to think that especially voters, but also politicians are going to vote based on these identity politics. that if she's a woman of color, then she's going to expect women or color or people of color to vote for her. and

we're seeing in the united states, that's not the case. and again, if we think about things in terms of, of identity politics, i think the candidate in this race who has to be it has been the most identity politics. canada has been donald trump, who is his lent so heavily into this is why identity and even to the point that he was, you know, managing to talk to particularly um, the younger man who is a spanish and is making them understand that that is what's above their identity so that this identity question is as ever, with american politics out, the halts of it. but, but it's also, i think when we think about identity policies, those are really important to think about white identity. which of course, is also a highly silent identity among particularly among the trunk vices. i would ask, christine, cuz we've been taught, we talked about this before you come from zimbabwe. said, how does the american election in the way politicians try to reach for how does that appear to people in raleigh for example?

well it's, it's fascinating. i mean, i think no election in the world groups, people the way us election does. right. and in so many ways we, we, we look at an election of this, how sophisticated it is that the volumes of money that go into, into the campaign and all of it. but i think for the outcome of, of, of the us eviction. whether it's a democrat or republican, i don't think it makes all that much of a difference. i think from the foreign policy perspective, africa's right at the bottom of the list for any us with ministration gets beyond us. and increasingly, so now with the goal changing in the way that it is, i think, you know, for people in africa looking at this, trump really shifted a lot of things because we have probably medic, autocrats on, on the african continent who would have seen a trump presidency and who would have felt emboldened and say, well, you know, you, you, you, you turn the lens on us but have a look at what's going on in the united states. so it's so important. what happens

and i think will suggest this idea of you is hitching monique and this, this appetite to, to break that down. but, you know, when you, when you talk to people and say, what is the alternative? if we lose the united is in this position of it being this global policeman, you know, championing democracy. what does it mean for, for young people on the african continent who i would boldly say many millions off . in fact, most of africa is under, that the oppression of old men who are out of touch with the new world, the new reality and their population. so it's so crucial in so many ways because of the example that the united states has just it was, it was one day with a comely harris victory. would that send a signal then it to young africans that the age of the desperate, the age of the older crowds as a thing? absolutely, because people can stand and say, look at the united states, right. get it. she's not a very young woman, but that is, that is a break, right?

then it's more if it's a new generation for me to ship something that we are giving full on the african conscious that i can almost see, accommodate harris and bilateral relations. you know, seeing a differentiate, right? i mean, that would be a such a break, but i think for, you know, we keep hearing that democracy is on the bennet in the united states. that's not something that we say likely on the continuum. rise a free and say election is, is, is not the privilege of everybody on the african continent. right? so it's so important that whoever comes into office, but i think it would be so different to see a common harris presidency. we all know what happened to donald trump presidency. right? yeah, we never, we been with him. i think we overestimates the pop the we underestimate the popularity of donald trump in some areas of the world here in europe. us isolationism is a scary prospect because of nato, because europe is protected by us, nuclear weapons, a new, a us,

a military supremacy. but there's parts of the world that don't like us military supremacy. and they liked the fact that donald trump is an isolationist and unpredictable and willing to do things that the presidents before him, whether democrat or republican, were willing to do to retreat from certain areas of world for, for europe. that is for voting. but for places in the middle east, for pakistan, for example, for afghanistan, places like this. remember the drone was started by president obama and comma harris as a direct defender and of his political movements. so i don't think that we can stay for sure. the trump is that unpopular and parts of the world who have been in there been victim of us the gym. yeah. yeah. and victoria button thinks it's a great guys will enter to arrive while you're here. okay. all right, is there a copy of our chief international editor richard walker? he spoke with trump supporters in miami, and here is what they had to say. take a listen and i'm here because i'm uh, supporting the one and only the,

the one of them is the donald j. trump make america great again from 2024. why? because he's the only one that can do a job. i'm q when i came when i was 9 years old and i'm here in miami. i'd be living in miami all my life. and i noticed the job that he's done to me is to guy for ya for united states. he's this jerome and i'm mary. got me on the strome and that makes the best for us that the american people, we are the american people and he loves america for this free. so i'm b r i, it's about them because it does it demo, brought the liberty of the people going to me every day, or that's why we're in a normal result. it gets bigger, but all the time about here, here's a buzz. regardless of how you feel about his rhetoric, the policies are outlined. we were much better off before colgate. there's been no change in the last 3 years,

so i think we're ready to go back to that strong policy. international, domestic and high priority for hispanics is actually closing the border. all right, so there's was voices from miami. she said something we have mentioned once this evening cove. it, i mean 4 years ago. yeah. there was a pandemic right here. we were trying to block it out of my head. but i think last between the i was gonna say the recent risk, we should put that on social media to night to revive people. we had plexiglass between us 4 years ago, thinking that our breast could be dangerous. the different. there was a different world. i mean, it was a different world, but um, here we are 4 years later we're, are we coming up on almost on as for am almost here in berlin, which means it's um 10 pm on the east coast 7 pm on the west coast. so, you know, with the exception of the alaska in hawaii, people are getting ready to call it a day. where, where are we?

uh, well, i would say its obviously we can call it yet. but what it's for me, if i can wax philosophical politic. i think what it's going to come down to is who americans think represents change. we have, we're coming to an election where 2 thirds of the country believes that the us is on a very wrong track. and 6 out of 10 people don't even like the candidates that they're voting for. yeah, so it's a disgruntled and it's a disgruntled electorate who's going to the polling booth when to the point, especially the boomers, right. and they're voting for change. so we have to find out at the end of the account who they believe represented change. okay. describe what do you think? so i think that cited all this has been a somewhat of a good night's life off the trump. so i think the margins in, in florida look better than they were 4 years ago. but we know, as we talked about previously here, the florida can behave differently to the rest of the country. it also looks like he is slightly ahead in north carolina, but again, there is still votes left to count,

and those votes are likely going to be disproportionately for harris. but so i would say he's slightly, uh, i would, i would say he has the advantage in north carolina. i would also say maybe a slight advantage in georgia. i would say that the upper midwest is still fall 256 . yeah. us and yeah, so you get the last words of those numbers that you see up sofa of this top left to right, a few of the screen. i think the caviar there is to say we're, it's still early days in terms of the foot count. right? so don't lift that by one means there. yeah. whichever way on the calculator. yeah . so it's just as i mean by line of the day. so some way i think it is my mom, this is all america's and labeled wondering a few hours of boiler go. yeah, that's not going to be a c section that's, that's your all right, this is we're going to take a quick break. in the meantime, looking at election day is polling nearest it's close vice president, couple of harris stuff by the democratic national committee. while republican candidate donald trump,

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