but you can protect yourself and your family from diseases in the home by applying the 5 keys to see for use them. you also have a role to play the and a welcome back. this is d w. newer is our special coverage of the us presidential election. america decides 2024 poles in close now in multiple key states. but even with tallies pouring in results are still too close to call. voting is just finished in the state of nevada and county is well underway and the other battle ground states of georgia, north carolina, pennsylvania, michigan, arizona, and wisconsin the associated press as well as us television networks have already called numerous other states for truck and for harris. with both candidates picking up early expected wins. we do know that the numbers coming in the are

tending slightly in favor of drop, but just slight i bring cost is good to have you with this with me here in the studio is my colleague and co anchor christine wood. while she is going through the numbers, that's right tonight. she's had a very important job of doing an excellent job. and also in the studio to my far right is political analyst mike cockburn and to buy left is dw, as us elections families, michelle stockman. she just joined us right now, so she's the fresh blood here at the table. she's also hiding a diet. is that a diet coke? bear with us at the coke in this building, but it's a coke 0 still in the product family. you're going. all right. let's good have you here, michelle? let's um, talk about then the numbers were out. we right now, why didn't we get the state of the race right now? so we know that the number we're looking out for is 270. they are 55, sorry,

538 electoral college votes. the half way mark is 270 and that is proving that one can get into the white house. so as we can see right now, 188 of those electoral college votes are in the bag for donald trump. 9 to 9 for com la harris, but we know that there are not very many surprises right now. we're still expecting the results to come in and places will be no comedy has, will pick up places like california, which has the most amount of electro college, but it's $54.00. so this is just a sense of where things are now, according to the results that has been fully counted. but why don't we just have a look at the geographical map now of the country to get a sense of all the, all of the swing states, the polls are closed in all of this wayne state that all right, crucial. and for the fall 7 swing states and perhaps we can give those and mentioned we've got those and the rest both. uh, wisconsin, michigan,

pennsylvania. so i'll just give you the tevye. okay. what do you see in the lights? a shade is what the projected results will be on the basis of the foods that have already been count it. so it's it right now. exactly right, so the vote counseling is still under way and on the basis of what's been counted, this is what the associated press is predicting. the result will be. but as we can see, most of the, of the, of the states really we can see that the con, coming in over the, and of course, the dr shades, this is way the states have already been quote. so what is firmly in rate has gone to donald trump and what is firmly and blue has gone to come to harris. does anyone want to say and we don't have anything with all right now, george and we don't have north carolina. we don't have pennsylvania. yeah, and it might be sometime before sundays, can you swing states essentially, all eyes are on pennsylvania, wisconsin because they do not start counting some of their male and in or absentee votes until the morning of the election. other states like michigan,

they can start ahead of time. georgia can start ahead of time, but these states their state real estate nope. or waiting till election day for all counting to start so it might be not even today, it could be days before we find out something like pennsylvania. it all depends. like why do we have a look at some of those battleground states? this begin with north carolina. i'll bring golf hills from the great state of north carolina. you need the okay, so 66 percent of it's been constant in north carolina and then we have it. donald trump has a beautiful lead over the mike. i mean, north carolina, 16 electoral college votes, but this is, this is one very, very close. obviously you'd rather be trump at this point than, than harrison, north carolina. but again, still very close and i would say it too close to cool. um that have been some discussions online about whether or not at this point, it makes sense that to,

to say that trump is going to wind north carolina. i would strongly say no, but as there's definitely a pasta congress could still wind north carolina. but, but the official you want to, you'd rather be trying to iris at this point and i think we have to point out, this is the battle ground state that trump one in 2020. so he will be looking at keeping that in the back. so to say harris winning north carolina would be a huge of the statement in this lecture that would been yep. okay, let's have a look at georgia and britain as he was making the point earlier that combination of georgia and go in the north carolina quite crucial for anybody. so 80 percent of the votes there is in trump. has this dose is close right? with the fulton county, the wherever is about 20 percent of the 20 percent is going to be coming from the biggest counters. right. of course we know because of this roll up and divide. we know the biggest counties are going to be disproportionately democrats and sides.

it's definitely, again to price the cool, very much power still has a profit, but of course, trump is going to look at that initially and be happy at least to see that he's, he's got a couple of points edge on that. and that's another thing just to get a little bit warranty here. yes, there was an i meant to study about the 2020 election. and again, when we're talking about this kind of reading arrives early results. oftentimes we're talking about that role urban divide because there are fewer people that are voting and these world counties getting the tally done can be really quick. and so then, of course, you think that you're seeing one way and it's violent. and so they're reporting earlier, and so then when we get out to the urban areas, just a lot more people voting a lot more votes to tabulate. so it's really a kind of a mechanical thing that's involved to when we're seeing these result comes in and which way the towers waiting. this had a look at georgia next, another 16 electoral college foot. georgia was the surprise, last time round of going to spies in settings. democrats very un expects

a fee, but 80 percent of the vote. as you can see, there has come in in georgia again, donald trump in the lead again, to point my. so the way the question is, is, is wherever the volume, the way we missing these 20 percent are likely going to be coming. but you say in fulton county from atlanta very large black population. and we know that the black population disproportionately goes for the democratic candidate who have and isn't georgia really on the cards right now. because calmly harris to close the, the, that ticket, the democrats, because this is why the thing i, i would say this like states is one of their kind of cool, cool faces of, of, uh, bite and support within the policy as well. they've been, you know, a group is consistently voted for the democratic party, regardless of who the kind of is, of course it, when a bomb it was on the ballot. and this was, this was a huge incentive in terms of turn out, but disproportionately this group of democratic. and again,

they're the outstanding balance they're likely to be coming from from atlanta. but the talk, you know, 4 years ago with it was talk about the, the african american vote being securely in binds hands. they're not saying that about couple of here's that, that she's definitely that if you are a black american, you're going to vote for her that they're not saying that the way they were saying that about job i. yeah, there's definitely been talk that she's a little wobbly on support from black and latino man, and we saw her surrogates get out there. strong. blackman out of the field of black men like rock obama saying come on guys, let's not, but perhaps sexism getting the way of supporting the candidate who might have what you're looking for. yeah. well, let's go to washington d. c. janelle is standing by. she's been there all evening out like i think near howard university, that's the alma mater of couple of harris. and that is where the vice president is

tonight watching the results come in. and janelle, we, as we were say right now, it would be a better to be donald trump than it would be to be comfortable. harris is that this since you're getting there? now i don't think there is any water here that would say that it would be better to be donald trump and, and he called tax. but of course that has less to do with how he is currently performing in his he acts in the election as to how they might feel about him personally. but yeah, so bryan, so yeah, i'm standing outside of howard university. people are still coming in and study numbers or to watch telecom a lot. harris says election watch party. now i am told that there are about a 1000 people inside already and the mood is still is still very brilliant inside. although there has been some creeping anxiety as those results for trump thought, show him over performing in the south that show um that show georgia beginning

towards donald trump. now just an honor to, oh, it's all i heard of from inside that. so when the 1st results from pennsylvania came up and it showed carmella harris to be in or in the lead, got a huge tier went up through the crowd, but of course, so we know that that lead, i sense disappeared. now trump is somewhat in the lead, and we know any way that it's still early days as a, i believe it was michelle who was pointing out earlier in your discussion. that because pennsylvania doesn't start counting bill in ballots until election day. that this could actually take quite some time yet, and it is still early in pennsylvania, but it just goes to show you just how much whole, but there is a whole bunch of people want to see these results come in for a couple of hours. are there is they'll talk about, she might still make a speech here later. mm hm. but it's not actually, you know, it's not actually a president of being a, to have a speech from one of the candidates before

a definite result has been called. but let, so we're watching that to see if anything comes out of it. and that's pretty much what's happening here on the ground. now i want to ask you this is, you know, if it would be highly unusual for a presidential candidate to, to give a speech without being able to say if they say we one or to concede defeat. so do we know why she would be willing to speak in the process of the tabulation? you know, we don't know that, and i want to distrust again that, that this is nothing definite to this has nothing that has been that has been scheduled or set in stone. this is an expectation that appears to be forming among the people here. i suppose some people what they actually expect to hear if she were to appear before a definite results came out and they said, oh, i don't know, maybe she's going to tell us to be patient. that's all. this is all the counting takes a long time that there's no reason to lose hope or fear and to thank them for their

support. but the bottom line is, we don't know if that's going to happen at all. no, i guess, you know, i was talking earlier about how much they were hoping for pennsylvania in the same way that the other account. of course it is. now it is the biggest prize along those swing states, and it is also where account bla, harris and did her pitch to the voters. so she ended with a last riley in philadelphia where she was joy to buy ricky martin, where she was drawing to buy overall, who called on their supporters again to vote to, to bowie in her favor. philadelphia is, is a very philadelphia was also where she expended a lot over economic message a lot over messages about the opportunity economy about the way she wanted to help the middle class sort. pennsylvania was where she introduced or running mate, tim wall. so there was actually a lot of speculation about whether philadelphia might be where she ends up spending

collection night. but of course, we know now that she had settled on howard university, her alma mater and okay, that's why we're here. all right, but you know, a good job and stay in touch with us. we'll come back to you shortly. janelle, down there at howard university in washington, dc. the alma mater of probably harris has come back into the studio here at the big table. and we, we've got an addition to our table family here in special ed and joins us now. and when we talk about trans atlanta says, yes, i would say of all of us here at the big table you are the trans atlantis is in my right. um unit was born that way. what socialized that way have my um, my mother in pennsylvania actually. um, but i'm also actually convinced for political reasons that this is, you know, especially for germany you know, trends and then it says, um, um the, the, as we call it, best been done with this very, you know, firm embeddedness in the family of western nations is is key as a strategic necessity. and so yes, i'm a transfer learners,

us both on the emotional and the rational inside. and i did you come from a party and election party tonight or are you coming straight from home in the middle of the night? no, i'm slightly late here to the already because i'm, i was at the, at the other drum and television outlet upset the apple just now. and they took a little more time to discuss these things and give and give us an idea of what's being, what's being said here in germany about the election so far in the numbers that are coming in. i mean, i, everybody, i think here, instinctively has, you know, the sense this is a massively important election for the germans. i've seen polls that basically support for come out of hers is somewhere between 85 and 75 percent in germany. and you know, that's a pretty strong margin even, you know, by european standards people understand that from could be, you know, difficult for this country. um, you know, and all of this happens of course, against the backdrop of a severe government crisis in this, in this country. as well, so we have a double whammy here going on. it's quite a stressful moment politically here in this town. i think that's,

that's fair to say. and the numbers, it's still early, but the numbers are tending to look in donald trump's favor right now. that is for, for the german government in particular, a nightmare scenario if he wins under the term, isn't all of the, the strategic questions that have um, you know, challenged us government in this country will basically go on steroids. uh if, if trump is elected, you know, we have um, you know, up of military weakness that we haven't been really able to deal with. we are dependent on us security services, if you will, to maintain, you know, a basic freedom and basic security in this country. we have a trade situation for time. she was trump, that could go to the core of what makes this economy strong and, and, and then of course there's an emotional attachment to the us, you know, and it's also a little bit of a disappointed love there. you know, if they have that other side of the atlantic, which you kind of like to like to like, and some dislike the, you know, when that,

when, when they become emotionally strange from each other, these, you know, these 2 sides that's, that's particularly difficult for the germans web a very special relationship in the postwar period with the americans. well, i'm glad that you are getting up in the middle of the night and i'm coming to help us tell the story of what's happening tonight. and richard walker is also doing that for us. he's doing that for us tonight from southern florida. we want to go to him right now to he's not far from where donald trump and his camp are watching the numbers come in and it does look good if you are donald trump right now, doesn't it richard? yeah, it does print. so we're in miami, we're living in atlanta where it's at the best side cuban presiding restaurant, which is, which is one of the kind of focal points of the cuban community here. traditionally, republican community and a lot of people who i mean so we can see with this body, which is getting more, more full here on,

on the street side with people driving thoughts and cheering and hooting their horns. they getting more and more excited and i was just, i was just talking to a bunch of these 3 guys who are looking on their cell phone. so one of the, you know, these election production sites, you know, where they have a kind of a, a swing on much that is pointing in one direction or the other. and so that was one which was pointing more and more heavily towards trump, and they were saying they were pretty pumped up about that. and they were saying they really hope that enough states declare to nice to pushing clearly into tough territory so that they to go to bed to night, knowing that it's in the back roads and thinking that this could be a drawing out the content. so of course is to say, well, either we, we don't know if that's the case, but that's definitely of the increasingly divide here. but i think there's one thing, i mean you were saying earlier just picking up on something you were saying earlier that they said, you know, where did you go through an election campaign? this most would be sort of most res, coverage your needs. when you're at

a place like these to take a step back and you kind of realize, you know what it is in terms of cultural factors, what are these, you know, their drives people towards trump that, that could really attract them to them. and you just, you just feel kind of conservative american tv. in this case, you know, cuban teams culture. really kind of pulsating here. people are driving big trucks, home team, man who and sometimes driving costs, you know, 2 or 3 times the same truck, you recognize it over and over, people poking their horns with like huge flags you see, you know, the iconography of trump. you see not just the trunk signs, but it was so you know, the photograph from butler, pennsylvania when he was shot at when he showed you that fight fight fights. so you really feel that here and you feel the distance of it from the liberal america web . more of that counts is still going on. the people here loved trump as much as the

people in liberal america hate him. the people he loved, the trump as much as the europeans are worried about him. you really feeling here on the streets of miami? yeah, i was, i was asking you on this, but he joined us here at the table to about the, the, the impact of your foreign policy. and, and what's being said here in germany tonight about the selection foreign policy is not, no candidate wins in america. no presidential election before and policy, but that is especially true for donald from, isn't it the? yeah, well, you know what brand, i think firm policy does featuring this. and i would again, if we kind of like taking a step back to you at this election, obviously for the well that site, they look at it and think it's tied to. yeah, it's a to a referendum on whether i don't know to them. here's the electrical anymore, off to what happened on january the 6th of 4 years ago. but i think for a lot of people, not necessarily that died in the blue republicans for the,

for another. the people who are a little bit on the fence pieces and elections very much about issues. and issue number one, i think, and people live till 2 would be inflation in issue number 2 would be in the immigration, especially illegal immigration. and issue number 3 would be this sense of a kind of a well out of control. and a lot of people like to, i'd be now in the us for 6 weeks or so for this coverage. a lot of the people used to go through here. they say, you know, there is a war and you brain, there is a war in the middle east therapy is a go in asia. and of course there are the ones that people don't even talk about, such as into done. these was going on. and this seems good. those were not happening when donald trump was in power. this is something that donald trump has been st. boots indeed. no, no. excuse me, scared of invasion name of ukraine. well, trump was in office. he's saying that he made progress in the middle east rather than of what has been happening, pam, or recently. and he claims that he would never dam, make

a move against taiwan if he was in power. again. of course, you know, the democrats tend to test sort of pieces and say that the 2nd sons of the different, but for the average votes, if you do things about the case, what happens on your watch? those claims, obviously, sound pretty is wasted. and i think if you talk to a lot of the people here and a lot of the kind of every day, republicans, they all saying why the state is sending large amounts of money and weaponry to ukraine. the democrats, of course, have a strong argument for why they doing that, but donald trump says it's not america as well, and it has other priorities and he wants to see these. i think a lot of people here, but that really does time with a view of things. and they have a sense that he says he's brand is a little that being a strong leader, they have a sense that he's a strongly that who would bring some semblance, a piece against the middle east, across the democrats. a thing on the trump is anything positive strongly to all the people i've let him have preteen

a king don't own. what you do pick needs to do is go out to him and he will. he will essentially do that meeting. but i think donald trump claims have been pretty powerful in this election. and that is one reason why people use. okay, richard walker in miami. richard, thank you, but come back to you shortly. i'm going to ask you, based on what richard is describing a donald trump, who is in favor who embodies this desire. many americans for regulated immigration of the board and to be closed at least temporarily. and for deep rotation of people who are in the country illegally, he represents or he is. the conservatives, the cd you this, the issue is, are involved in commission and the a, f, d, all in one is it, um it's, you know, it's always difficult to compare these things, you know, one on one. i think we have, you know,

elements of this kind of populism that have basically taken over also the mainstream agenda in, in europe, not just in germany, but across europe. migration is one of the key drivers of that population, both on the right more on the right, but also on the left. as we see now with some of our next year, it's increasingly dominating the agenda in the european parliament. because it is an issue that basically for the last 25 years we failed to address and now we're addressing it here with a he will, he will tell you it's not populism when you're saying that you want the border to be regulated, that it can come in and out, that's not populous flow, and that is actually true. the problem is that the, the main stream parties and in that sense, trump is right. and, and, and the if the, as a point, as well, the mainstream parties both on the central left and on the center, right. failed to address this, this problem when that was possible, you know, in a meaningful mainstream the way they basically, you know, left this topic to the fringes who were only too eager to grab it and then emotional lives. and so when it was still possible to do this in the silver and

regulated way, you know, nobody wanted anything to do with it despite the warnings. now it's basically been served on a silver platter to the fringes, and they're making use of it. and they're driving the agenda in a way that is no longer controllable for the central parties and it, so it has turned from a reasonable request that people have into an emotional lives issue that needs democracy from with them. so i mean, i know what it is, believe it is too much because i know for a long way from it, but a donald trump victory tonight means what for the german national election scheduled for next september? i mean, it's probably a stabilizing factor from came to office or was elect to tonight over the next few days. you know, some people say that this could stabilize this government, which is on the brink of collapsing here in germany. and here in germany, because nobody wants to put one crisis on top of another crisis, but that's all spectra nation we don't know. i think essentially, drum and politics follows its own domestic rules for the most part. and this

government is its, in its own navel gazing state. i think trump might have a little bit of an impact on it, but not massively. you know, if this government sales in germany will probably fail over the next 3 to 4 weeks. if it doesn't fail, then it's not going to fail. but regardless of, of you know, whether the elections would be in march or on september. you know, the, the geostrategic situation that comes with a strong trump situation, but the feature of every from march, if it comes in what you're talking about early election is if the government were to collapse. yeah. yeah, that'd be that's, there's a lot there's that we could do a whole show on the german election that are the german political scene if we want it to the shop to. but talking about the, the, i guess the view from germany, it just speaks to the international reach, the donald trump has had and continues to have doesn't. absolutely, and we talked about richard was talking about the love that people have in miami for trump as much as people who are liberal in america dislike him. and i think that you're feeling that also around the world. there's a lot of people who admire him as a strong man. there is

a lot of people who think that he is very dangerous to democracy. the way that he has talked about alliances like nato, that have lasted since the forty's. he's threatened to withdraw from nato. he has told me he has said that he would encourage vladimir putin to invade a member of nato who isn't so called pain up. i mean, these are very scary phrases, specs. he will just kind of throw out and sometimes his aids have to scramble in terms of making policy around what he says. he's a bit tatic and some people think that's his portrayed that as a positive saying that will leaders can predict what he's going to do. so they're cautious around him, but other people think that he again can be flattered and swayed by dictators who he has praised. and there is this feeling under the majority of the polls show that the majority of germans do not want donald trump and the president again. but what

about come over here is, is there a guarantee that come over here is i would remain as committed to this trans atlantic world that we're used to. i mean, is, is she the friend that germans me or europe may want to sing in her? look, she has gone out of her way, not to criticize joe biden and say what she would do differently. in fact, she was criticized for that on the campaign trail. why don't you have an answer for that? and she has said that she would come, can you uh, biden's foreign policy, especially when it comes to europe. she would be a strong backer of nato. she said she would stick with ukraine, and these are policies that are definitely popular in germany when it comes to her personality. i honestly think a lot of the dislike for trump is policy, but also personality. and so a lot of people don't know that much about her, but if she sticks to what biden has done, i think there will continue to be support of her. i don't know what,

what do you think young? i think the, the, the difference between buying and harris is that, of course, he is, um, you know, from a generation that has an intuitive understanding of registrants, atlanta system, that's how he got socialized during the cold war. he understands nato, that was the main stay. he comes from an era in which, you know, this part of foreign policy was absolutely non partisan. that wasn't getting on across the board consensus on this. she doesn't come from that era. i think she probably has to strategic understanding of how important europe can be also for your american interest. but it is not something that, for her, as part of her kind of dna or political dna. it's more of a rational thing than it is a, you know, something that she fields and, and we saw a similar thing actually was with president obama at the time. you know that to asia, the pivot to asia and who was also not in the one in the, to a to of transatlantic says. but, you know, learned, you know, over time how important it was for america's position in the world. so yes, continuity, but, but not the same kind of instinct of, you know, love relationship that bite and has, with europe with

a meaning security conference. and all of these places that he likes to go to. it's very good points, very good for it. of we are coming up on 4 30 in the morning here in berlin, 10 30 in the evening on the east coast in the united states. $730.00 on the west coast. let's look at the numbers. that's right. why don't we start by looking at, of course, the state of the race that that number we're looking for at night is 270. that's the magic number of as so to say. and as we see it right now, donald trump has what looks like a very strong family, but again, no surprises yet to nice. uh, this is, well, these are states that have gone ways that we expect them to go widely. so we're still any days in terms i'm still in the swing states. i think the most swing states have been pulled in the civil since 76 states. so what we're really looking up, what's that? but when we get a geographical map now of the country, just to get a sense of what,

how the states or training those that had been quotes to begin that caviar that i must just present before we look into these individually. what you see in the lights, a shade is what the associated press is projecting. the result will be. this is based on the vote comp that has already come in. so what is in bold riddle, blue has been one by the democrats or the republicans. me respect somebody, so i don't know if if there are any remarks about what you're looking at when you look at the map. now i see this now and when we looked at it just a hour ago, i believe pennsylvania was in the light blue. now we're seeing pennsylvania kind of in the picture. the feet. yeah. wisconsin and the pink michigan is blue, but come la harris really needs those ra spelled c s console in pennsylvania in michigan. and right now i would be worried if i was getting and democratic headquarters, but again, it could be a red mirage, as we know,

it takes longer and some of the states, these things states to count the votes, right? especially, it's again to the point of its way, has the vote that has already been concepts coming from, right. we know that the logic blocks they tend to come in later and that could really have a big impact on what the result is seeing is. so when we have a look at the big prize of the, of the nights, this is the state of pennsylvania. you get surprised at 19 electoral college votes up for grabs in the state of pennsylvania, 56 percent of the verse. how it is in and look at that. it's an economic, right just as a credit, but producing but again, it is that story of the, the world food versus the oven. bose, which will really bring it down. and again, just looking at the swing states that are 7 in this election. so if, as he was saying is we've been discussing branch, if donald trump is able to pick up georgia in north carolina, comedy has has to sweep. yeah. the rest we'll see to see the procedure we're,

we're talking about what was the percentage there, 5656 percent. so we're talking just over half, which means we, we are not talking about, we don't have the votes that are, that are coming in for philadelphia, for example, these big urban voting centers. they have, they haven't been included in that. so it's essentially that right, going, you know, you've got to philadelphia got pittsburgh, those, those cities just have not been included in these numbers that we're seeing right now. so all democrats typically do vote more with absentee ballots or mailing dollars. yeah. so yeah, these get counted evicted less so because we're not in pandemic situation where people don't want to go to the polls. i think there's more excitement to actually go to the polls, so we likely will see the race called earlier than 2020. but these are factors, right? why do we have a look at arizona? this is when we haven't spoken about a great deal tonight. but let's have a look at how the races payouts at in arizona ne accounts will just shy of positively it's been canceled. said wow it,

which is great the because we been expecting arizona and the others we think nevada to take a long time like in days, not hours. i mean we're not even expecting. i think to see this percentage this early in the evening for arizona so, but we still have quite a ways to get and we know in arizona board or politics is, is a big part of the issue for, for, for food is. but the latino vote is really is an account heavy in, in, in arizona. you live in a full cottage for it's a full space off arizona. let's have a quick look at north carolina and georgia. this, this combination, these 2 states will start, of course, with north carolina for 75 percent of that foot in the tide race. and i think the usual calculus to apply, right? but i think you maybe this is home branch. well, i mean, this is my home state. i mean, i would say that with this now we've got 75 percent. we're what we're looking at,

but we're still waiting for is the largest city, charlotte and, and the capital city, raleigh. those boats to be tabulate this. what we're still waiting on. that will be the 25 percent that will make or break this for. so what are these 2 um and just anecdotally, did you hear anything about after the mass of flooding that happens just makes go? is that affected? there are those there will when he gets well, you know, that area is a rural area on, in the appalachian mountains, things the counties that were impacted tend to vote, would vote for donald trump. but the numbers, the absolute numbers, compared to asheville, which is a democrat stronghold are small. so, um for it to help i guess you could argue that it would help a couple of harris, but it would be minimal if, if, if any that that's, that's what i've heard that when we looked at those numbers from north carolina. yeah. i mean, those are laurie some numbers for, for from out of her. yeah. go,

north carolina was, was meant to be one of those early bellwether. yeah. and the really yes. and now it looks like, i mean, this is a fairly, i mean, not of course, a decisive margin yet, but a fairly sizeable martin, the size, the one it is. and so that, that might, you know, this was meant to be an early indication as to whether she could perhaps over performed. that doesn't seem to be the kind of so, you know, familiar with we can't, we came into this tonight there, there was the thinking that if we, that we should be able to get the result pretty early from the george and north carolina of for reasons they they change the rules, they have new technology and the ballot boxes. all of that though has not played out the way it was predicted. but we, we, we don't have a 90 percent reporting right now. and we don't have a strong indicated that this is going to be 2 wins for a couple of harris because it was, it was said if she could win most of those states early on tonight, then we would be able to say with a,

a fair amount of certainty that she was on her way to win pennsylvania and then she would, when we can't say that now at all, we have to make the point that this wasn't considered a swing state until how many hours took over the democrats. yeah. a ticket from joe biden. so just to that point as well. okay, why do we have a quick look at georgia and then we'll wrap it up for the segment of the results will not be stopped by having a look at how much of the vote cons come in were us. will this 90 percent of the votes in the it's just incredible how this is, is proving to be right. this looks much straighter. it's exactly as the poles if it had been predicted. this is going to be a type race and we're certainly seeing in georgia. but there it is at a very sort of slim lead for donald trump and the republicans, they 51 percent was 88 percent of the of us in georgia, counted 16 electoral college, which i mean if, if it doesn't go well for common harris. yeah. yeah, i mean, it was, like we said,

we certainly still got to serve incentives that have to be included in that could change everything we could be that we could be dealing with this red mirage that we talked about. but this still speaks to the fact, you know, we had been hearing now for most of this campaign of a couple of harris, enjoying a, a remarkable lead. at least that's, that was what we were hearing in september. so she's, she's, she's lost some in october, but still, if these numbers bear out a give trump the wind, we will have to come back and as yet again, as we did in 20202016. what, what good are these polls for? because they're, they're not at, they're just not accurate. yeah. or did i really the reading i did before coming up to election day the was that it really was a neck and neck race. it has become that. yeah, that's yeah, that's true. yes. and the question is yes, why did that happen?

was it but she didn't do enough for voters to get to know her. you know, i've heard of lot of people say, but if comma harris loses the race, it's because she didn't do as good as messaging on, on issues like immigration on the economy as she should have a trump really ran on immigration. she tried to run an economy in democracy and so we can, we'll have to play monday morning quarterback to see at the end. but we'll just base, we're getting some move. but now the us house speaker mike john said he just spoke after securing his congressional seats. in congress and take a listen to what he said or we're watching everything very closely tonight. it may be a long night. i think in the, in a little bit. we're going to go to merrill lago, i think and be down there with, with the present trunk. but i think it's the end of the day. i think the of the night when they tabulate all of this, i am very hopeful that we're going to have not only a larger majority in the house to make my job easier. but we re take the senate and

the white house as well. i mean, the fact that he said that and the fact that he knew that he was going to go on television and say, it says that at 10 30 pm, and then he's going tomorrow. logo that tells us that he's not, he's not expecting now a couple of harris upset. well, i think he wants to go join the party down there. he wants to go join you on. he wants to go join donald and all of his cronies down there. i'm sorry for your part in the seems like a moment in history. i and he seems to be in donald trump's good graces, which is where many republicans, one movie speakers of the house, tried to do that. yeah. so yeah, yeah. and has some interesting consequences for them. yeah, yeah. i mean, donald trump, actually in the elections leading up to this one, he didn't have a great track record in terms of helping republicans be re elected. now when he

runs by himself, that's a different story. he seems to be tough on done. yeah. and we'll see what happens. i just have to say, i mean, looking at his record, a twice impeached convicted felon. this is one of the 5 kind of crazy strangers and fiction facts. yeah. but i'll think about when i look back on this, so how, how, how do, how do you explain that to germans where they're talking about this election. you've got a convicted felon, he's been impeached twice, and he could very well when a 2nd term in the white house, the people that like donald trump and support donald trump, you know, i do not particularly care about this because for them he represents a certain kind of, um, a lifestyle um you know, a, a, a, a way to look at things. um, you know, as much as much, much less drugs on the record of what he's done, what he's achieved. most of the, the, the achievements that, you know, they credit him with all essentially, you know, i'm not that do not exist. it's, it's a much more units. i'm as

a much stronger emotional attachment to the guy. and he has, when he initially, you know, stormed on the political stage and the scandal started to follow him, you know, basically immediately when he survived those 1st couple of, of scandal it's, you know, after a while, scandal is kind of touch you any longer. and i think we've seen this early on, he has to fight them and he is tough alone in that way. and the weird thing is that it is really a trump thing. personally, when other people try to sound like trump emulate his tone as it sounds ridiculous, i, it only works with him. so it's, it's a personal affection for this man, for this guy, for the kind of redemption that he seems to stand for, you know, for these kinds of people. and that makes some of that, that, you know, makes them immune against these kinds of more rational. a, you know, accusations or, or criticisms that, you know, drive most of us, you know, ag heads in the bubble. you know, for those people, it's an emotional attachment and that's a very, very different thing that we often do not really, you know, fully grasp, you know? yeah i, i saw and, and um,

yesterday that had the former german chancellor. gerhard schroeder, talking about donald trump and you're saying, you know, i'm the last person that you would expect to just say to praise donald trump. but i am that was the, the ad. and as if you're hard, schroeder would be the closest thing that germany can have to a donald trump. so, i mean, that's certainly what he, what sort of would have like done. so it was always running on his own, you know, charismatic personality. yeah. much more than on his actual achievement. that's right. he was an anti cold transfer at the time. you know, and he did this the, the one thing strikingly, that they have in common is the total need for validation all the time. you know, for being loved for being embrace for finally being, you know, for finally arriving in the upper crust of society, this is what drives the most of both, both of them. this is why i'm sure that in the end you know, fell into the polluting chapter tonight, so marvelously and,

and so there's an overlap and personality that, you know, maybe a sound less for flipped, right. let me, let me just interrupt you. there were getting in the news that a p has called iowa for donald trump, and that is going to, that's yet another surprise. because as earlier this week, we had a poll that came out that showed some of the here is a head there, but a p saying that donald trump is one which is in line with what we were expecting. that's right. i haven't got any view or questions coming yet and if you did it and uh, i think this one is, would be well place for you because i want to talk to you as, as asking about the electoral college system. and the question is how democratic is the actual college? that's a great question because the way the electoral college is set up means that the president is not elected by popular vote. so there are 435 electors that are

distributed between all the 50 states based on the states populations. so what this does is it allows rural states to have some more say the name might in just a popular vote situation. and so it was meant by the founding fathers, when we talked about the original 13 states, is meant to let smaller states still have more of a say and who was elected as the leader. so it was meant to distribute power more equally across the states. now, the way it has evolved into the modern united states, again, we're seeing that there are just about in the selection 7 states where the election is decided, right? because these are closely divided in terms of democrats and republicans. so and so that means that many people like i'm from new york state and i have never thought my vote really, counselors, you're going to be a democrat because me democrats, right? so let's go now we're going to have to is janelle dom allowing,

she is in washington dc and i understand, you know, you're standing by to talk with someone there in the couple of here's cam, go ahead. that's right. brands i'm joined to buy in your soul to and she is a 1st time voters. she is a campbell, a harris voter. and i know i just wanted to ask, how are you feeling? i'm feeling a really nervous like my her who's like pump in being really fast. i'm just so anxious. yeah. what's making you anxious? is this how close it is? i mean, i've seen the numbers and i do have faith in comma. so yeah, it says the numbers are too close to the the big number that we need. so yeah, it does seem quite close at the moment. a trunk seems to be over performing in the south. but i understand that you're also from pennsylvania. you're a swing state folder. so how do you rate her chances in pennsylvania for now it

seems that trump has a slightly, but it is still very close. and pennsylvania is one of those states where it takes a while the account. so how do you feel us? oh, i think i feel honestly i me see when i saw the man i feel like she will win it. i mean, i know my family there, i'll be when i to vote and it's only so much we can do. but i have yes, i volunteer to help campus in pennsylvania and their phone line to try and get the votes out. make sure everyone votes. i do believe that she will when pennsylvania, she has so much support so much. okay, so for the, our impression volunteering, pennsylvania, she has a lot of support. what was it about combat harris that made you want to support her? it was her policies. and what, especially on abortion and medicare for all the ages is

something then i it's something that really hits home to me. like i know a lot of people who are on medicare and i know people like, who really need it. i don't, we really need it. and i think is when she when's and is able to do this and give it to everyone. i think it will make a lot of things easier. um, yeah. so it is your 1st selection. you are a 1st time vote or what are you taking away from this experience? i'm. i'm taken away. i mean, all the knowledge that i've learned i've seen, i have never been. i mean for biden's i was, i mean could i canvass for his to um, but we're calm love this was, i mean my mom we were on the phone for i mean hours every night talking about how um, how important it is for her to be president you know, how important is for us to see someone who looks like us and office. i really think

that is a big thing that i'm not a lot of people can really allow people to share our happiness when spike uh, like if she does win. but like for what people, this would be a really big thing for us that i guess that explains a lot of the anxiety that you're feeling at the moment. finally, and this is my last question to you, and then i'll let you go. what is your strategy for dealing with anxiety for this very long night i had, as the account comes in, i will be going home. well, mom told me she was like, can we, you go home, get something to eat and then we can talk and we can look on at the polls together because she's not looking at home. so i'm looking at them and i don't want to share my anxiousness with her, but yeah, i'm a go home and just talk to her cuz she's usually who i call in times of stress. so here to get something to eat and look at the polls when someone who loves yes, thank you very much and you have fulton for your time today. thank you. and it's back to you in the studio bryant,

we just heard from annual felton their 1st time coming to her as vote, or from a swing state. she is feeling anxious and i can tell you she is not alone. okay, janelle, thank you very much and i think, you know, it is 448 a m here and we are reaching a point where i think we are starting to hear. now based on these numbers, we're starting to hear pollsters intimate. some of them say directly now that it's looking like donald trump is amassing an insurmountable lead. that is where we are. so we can, we can put that down at $448.00 a. m 1048 on the east coast. the, the signals are getting stronger that we are moving towards trump territory now, and definitely leaving campbell a harris. let's go to miami, richard walker. richard, i can see you're getting ready there. let's go to you. okay. richard. oh,

okay. so you're smiling. i think, yeah, a lot of people there have think they have reasons to smile right now. yeah. why kind of is it that my smile is because we've been trying to find the best spot to to go live with you again, greg. it's um, is getting more and more packed here tonight. and one thing i just noticed is walking through the group here. if we pan over in this direction, press briefly, you can see people are sitting around, some people having views, more and more people smoking cigars to go smoke in the uh, here at the cuban restaurant and they, little havana which, which seems appropriate. but maybe i think it's sort of a little sort of quiet but, but odorous sense of the dissatisfaction people are beginning to hear hear feel here and there was a big tier when one of the, the outlets was cooling, georgia for donald trump, just recently people i was talking to disturbing as advocate,

they felt that with georgia, they really are a significant step closer. and a lot of people are watching on various websites, these kind of these meters. the points were given property, probability of trump winning, and those meters are creeping up with, with every sort of pulsing house hours the feeling right now. so yeah, 10 to 11. our time here on the, on the streets or middle havana and yeah, the party atmosphere is as intense as it has been at any point this evening. and i mean, richard, if we're looking at the, just the swing states right now with that, with the percentage of votes coming in, it's looking like a. kimberly here is, wants to pull ahead. the remaining vote are going to have to be urban votes that give her a solid solid performance. and as time goes by, the possibility of that happening appears to be dwindling of our or are you getting

that sense? i mean, are the people there were you or are they getting good sense that the numbers appear to be moving in favor of donald trump? yeah, i mean that 70 percent. of course, i mean, you need to be towed into opposing aspects and some colleges to know about whether that is is, is really the situation. but the people are here with every state that gets to the top. it says drum with every move and those needles on these websites of people here get more and more confidence and to i think you really, i was talking to some people here who, who said that they really felt, you know, this was the kind of bed, the justice of being done over 2020 elections and they failed was on man despite across the want him to fail to challenge that in the courts of people here do have a lingering mistrust, which is something that donald trump is. of course start, as you just said earlier, and we may be in a territory to 9 of an election that is moving to

a pretty clear result in donald trump's favor. and in which case, of course, is the situation that we saw in 2020 is unlikely to be repeated. all right, richard walker there in miami and little havana richard, thank you. we'll be back with you shortly. this spring, you're back here in to the studio. we've got just a couple of minutes before we take a break. so let me just ask, i'll start with you john. i mean, how are you feeling right now with where we stand right now? are you? does it look like to you that this is moving towards donald trump victory territory? i think it's still, you know, early our yes. but, you know, the, the 1st indicators, as we discussed before, those states that were meant to, you know, up the assign post as to, you know, whether a come on are as could over perform. haven't really come out that way so far. yeah . and so, you know, the 1st inkling now seems to be that this could very well be a from victory. but it's all speculation still, or um, you know, the, the, the,

the, i was just texting with a friend who is in washington. she works for the state department. um she has a uh, a black lady um, you know, socially conservative but have come out of her a supporter in the selection. and, and she says, you know, it looks like she got smoked. i mean that getting a, a very bad vibe over there, you know, when you're have a supporter that from people certainly have it looks like, yeah, she's getting smoke to me that this is not what i'm here with supporters. but these are the numbers that they were hoping we would be seeing at this stage coming up on what 11 p m on the east coast. these are not. and i mean, if we look at some of the reported returns, if we're looking again to spell whether states 86 percent of the vote return, north carolina 93 percent in georgia and they are according to our 3 percent in georgia. that's according to what we're seeing on the map. there's still very much meeting to try. and so again, the spell whether states aren't looking good for comma harris. so that reduces her pathway to victory. if we're talking about that, like your college,

to get that to that, to somebody, number the solution for her campaign that is dwindling. and now all eyes will be on those rest spelled states those things state. that's right. because if she's not going to be able to carry georgia and it looks like north carolina, then she has to do wisconsin, michigan, michigan, pennsylvania. and that's a tall order when you can pull in georgia and north carolina us. yes. all right, we are coming up. what is it now? 5 before the hour, we're going to take a break. we're going to have a shift change here. um, my colleague, claire is going to be taking my place and i can feel on the sofa calling me with the day. and um, it has been delayed, we appreciate you joining us tonight wherever you are in the world. um its been an honor to have you withers, stay with us though because this election is far from over dw, as coverage of american decides. 2024 continues right after this by

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