so much trouble to fix the meals culture identity meant let's say together, because i talked about community life on the research is now on the so donald trump has to be the elected us president again in a stunning political come back convicted felon full of the president twice in page to allow us president elect, it'll be in charge of the most powerful country in the world for the next full years. so how did he confound his democratic opponent? and what will the 2nd trump presidency look like? i'm feel gail in bedding and this is the day the truly me the golden age of america that so we have to have that many things will

certainly be difference under the government led by donald trump, to germinate and remain a reliable transatlantic partner relationship with the us is a strong relationship and i look forward to working with present like trauma to ensure that relationship stays special. relationship in america's future will be bigger, better for all of the richard, safer and stronger than it has ever been before. god bless you and god bless you, but also on the day peace in the middle east. but how donald trump has said that israel's warning causes should end quickly. but palestinians and these right, these are divided over what a trump presidency will be for them. i think it's the best thing for his real democrats or week they didn't support is real. and this is not going to be good on the especially because it's we have a war here in the,

in palestine gender. all the people have spoken and done us, the voters have chosen donald trump to leave the country for the next 4 years. you'll take care of the hell of a country that is as politically divided as never before. he's democratic opponent comes on how to respond to the biggest and the prefer, and she called him a fascist, and the threats to us democracy had voters saw fit to. so him a fit for office. and mr. trump is preparing to be to to the lighthouse. so what went wrong for the democrats or what the trump do? right? i'll be putting those questions to a republican strategist in a moment 1st. okay, so what trump said in his victory speech, about what his presidency will be. this will truly me the golden age of america that so how

can people that will allow us to make america great again? well, the election result leaves the democrats and come to a higher searching for answers. they just suggest donald trump make games with nearly every democrat demographic group compared with these 2020 feet, including 3 visit previously being the bedrock of the democratic party, that's black, latino and young voters. so let's start with the youth. according to the associated press, 2020. so about 6 out of 10 young voters that bivens democratic bid. fast forward to today, a battery certainly captured about tough for you folks. particularly black votes as a similarly depressing for the democratic party. 2020. so a 9 out of 10 black voters cost that bothers for the democrats. we've come to the house at the top of the ticket that went down to 8 out of 10. is what happens with

latino voters? 2020, the democrats, $16.00 out of 10 votes. this time around 5 out of 10 went to hundreds. so did come to harris. i lose those versions of the donald trump. when them over chris folk is a political strategist who is advised that that the republican party in the past and joins us now from knoxville, tennessee. welcome back to d w. and what did you, what do you think happened to these democratic versus thank you, phil. it's good to join you again. i think it's fair to say that the, the racial and demographic and ethnic mix in the united states is more complex than almost any other country in the world. and that the process of assimilation in the process of people feeling truly american and not a hyphenated. you know, we still use hyphen such as african american, latino, american, asian, american. but it's the longer that people are part of american society,

the less they rely on the 1st part of that. and i think for the democratic party and certainly the republican party has been guilty of this as well. so the over simplification, believing somehow that's talking to african american voters, specifically was around things like crime, injustice and police reform. or speaking to let you know voters and always talking about immigration. at some point these, these, these voters certainly have more of a direct affinity or maybe a direct relationship with those issues. they're also tax payers, their homeowners, they've got kids in college, they're paying for groceries like everybody. and so i think the oversimplification of most of these demographic groups probably aren't there escaping. let me just look at that because you can see i can see how that might be true, right? but at the same time, on both what, what both campaigns pushing the economy, pushing a jobs, pushing, putting food on the table for you. well finally, the,

the big issues that perhaps we've been talking to a black hole, the thing that will young folks as well, it may just around the sides and adams. this is so for republicans, the messaging has always been more focused on core issues that would appeal to everybody, regardless of aetna, city or gender demographic democrats. of done in the past been traditionally very successful with smaller immigrant groups or demographic groups that had been disenfranchised or felt. is it there you know, left on the outskirts of american society economically and otherwise. and i think is american political culture continues to become more homogeneous unless heterogeneous, that those same type of allied groups just aren't as reliable for them anymore. and we also have the nationalization of our media and those things, but particularly your question about economics. the difference in the messaging was trumpets telling you that, hey,

groceries are too expensive. kamala harris was saying, hey, groceries are more expensive than they should be, but it's not that bad. and at some point, there's a credibility gap there where, you know, people who are buying groceries every day or saying, well, i hear what you're saying, but this is my bill and it's really, really expensive to buy groceries for my family. okay. let's talk about what the republicans got right. who voted for for him who and where trump's people as well. and that's, that's the thing is there is no, you know, one group of people that you can say are trumps people. now i watch television and you know, i consume a lot of content on the internet like everybody else. and so i'm familiar with the stereotypes of pickup trucks and people with big trunk flags and the red hats and all that kind of stuff. but just like, you know, somebody who maybe the harris rally who represents, you know, a bunch of different businesses or groups or political belief. these are often oversimplification, right?

race and what ends up happening is that we think that all the 12 people are our mega winters. in fact, actually not the case. or we, we believe that all small hair supporters are liberal, which is in fact not the case. and so, you know, specific to your question where the trump boats, where did trump voters come from? well, there was always about 48 percent of us population that did not want to vote for joe biden, and certainly didn't want to vote for kamala, harrassed. they may not have been excited or thrilled to vote for donald trump, but you know, as we have a, our system is not parliamentary. we don't have a multi party democracy. we basically have 2 big ones and people have to make a choice. and so the voters that really mattered the voters in the middle, i think we're driven by, you know, really core issues such as economics, but also issues that were quite frankly, in selling for a lot of people in terms of unlimited immigration in terms of just kind of open borders and then the, you know, the, the cost in the crime that has been associated with that america is

a country of immigrants and was hopefully always continue to be so, but there the, the swing the door open and let anybody and everybody in, at all times, without any kind of, you know, basic check that we were, as far as i know were, what are the only countries in the world that has that kind of policy. and okay, if i want across the board or any, you know, almost anywhere else, i have to go through a checkpoint and show some sort of papers. interesting guessing out of knowledge, say 7 nbc exit poll. that shows white support for donald trump down from 58 percent in 2020 to 55 percent this time. is there anything to say that to absolutely. uh yes, being somebody who comes from a scottish scandinavian descent myself, i would tell you that white quote unquote, white voters are probably the most over simplified group of voters in the united states. you know, there used to be 20 years ago. we would always say, hey, if i, if i know where your grandparents were, you know, the old country, wherever your family was originally from, then i would ever have

a good idea about where your politics might lead. you know, if you're irish catholic then okay, then you're probably democrat. if you're a german lutheran, you're probably leaning more republican and you know, generationally, these things have changed? what it means to be american. you know, americans still loved to associate with whatever countries are. and so she drew from but were less tied to some of those, the stereotypes. and so, you know, quote unquote white voters, white voters make up a smaller part of the lecture. now we've had a, you know, a tremendous growth in people of color in immigrants that aren't considered quote, unquote, white voters. and so yes that, that demographic is going to change. and i also think that uh, you know, white voters are for better for worse at the end of the spectrum, some of the furthest less than some of the furthest right, tend to be white voters. whereas everyone else tends to be somewhere kind of in the middle of that spectrum. and so as we have more college educated white voters who consider and profile themselves as more liberal and their social outlook,

they're absolutely not going to vote for donald trump or probably any republican candidate in the near future or interesting analysis. and we thank you for it. republican political strategies, chris forward. thank you so much. my pleasure. let's pick up on some of those points. and then a speculates about what we might expect from a trump to presidency with bodies for him is professor of politics and director of the politics section at bach college of the welcome back about us. so how do you think it is? donald trump? i mean, some people are saying trump one others are emphasizing that harris las vegas, but it's almost been out. but both of both of these things are to at the same time, trump was good at mobilizing the room. vote was good at getting the early vote out and it is 60 say to speak about white non college educated men, but nonetheless they have been supporting them in droves. whereas hers wasn't quite a successful to, to bring the urban vote to the,

to the table. the hispanics seem to have been an important aspect of that story. and so as the young boat. okay. and the one the, the electoral college and the popular of us. yeah. that's interesting. it was no time in the last couple weeks, we always talked about the electronic college and how it distorts votes and how it's not really a democratic and it isn't. and i think there should be a reform, but there never has been a reform 700 times. it has been tried. it's never been ever succeeded. and it is very tricky because always somebody benefits and sometimes with the democrats at one to reform it something since the republicans anyway, this time around, it wouldn't have changed much anyways because even the popular vote went to trump, you one of the swing states. so it's a very clear image. okay, so what we'd like to do and the rest of the show bodies, these take a look at what a trump to presidency is likely to mean for a number of the big issues that facing us. we'd like to get through, you crate the middle east, transatlantic relations and china so buckled up. so let's start with ukraine. one

of your vague countries paying particular attention to the outcome of this connection. donald trump decided he would end russia's war and you trade in a day. so i'm coming to tell you so something tougher say that is giving into russian president vladimir pollutants demands over the heads of ukrainians. nevertheless, you're trying to present a lot of as the landscape postage is. congratulations on ex. i appreciate the present terms of commitments to the pink through strategy. approaching global affairs is exactly the principle that can practically bring just things in ukraine closer. i'm hopeful that we will put into entered into action together. we look forward to an air of a strong united states of america under president trump decisive leadership. we rely on continued strong bipartisan support for your trade in the united states. so body's full and hopeful sentiments that of,

from the ukrainian president. and what do you see happening? i mean, do you actually see from making good on the problem is of ending the war in ukraine quickly? i guess this will seem very fast. zalinski has been very strategic about this and has reached out to donald trump very early on a couple of months ago. and so i think what he's hoping is that you can convince trump that there's something in it for him in terms of actually making the russians negotiate with with do create and so i think that's the best bet. but of obviously if trump is pushing through on that campaign promise and trying to end the war very fast, then this would happen most likely on the terms of, of russia. and this would mean that ukraine would lose territory. yeah, because it's, it's hard to see how a depleted and exhausting ukraine could resist american pressure at just to settled because presumably that'd be carrots and sticks. washington saying, you know,

i deal with a deal we, we've droll, a lot ministry support. so that's, that's buried in a bit of a class stick. well, they've been in a very difficult situation all the long from, from february of 2022 on words. and unfortunately the situation isn't getting easier for them. i listen, i appreciate was speculating, but if that was where we ended up, it's hard to see your p and lead is rushing to fill the void. the german government has said it was trying to do so, and it's solved and necessity off of it. stepping up, but we're seeing now as events unfold that the german government itself is in somewhat of a crisis. so if it kind of really dive up to that promise will be would remain to be seen. okay. so that, that would be the job in which i think after the united states is the 2nd biggest contributor to ukraine's war efforts. but then you've got 26 other squabbling kids

behind you. old to the top is sort of getting to, to get them to will focus in, in one direction, especially when it comes to spending money. now of course, now this has been the problem of us and of nato long, and this is exactly what's on the table and we don't know how these questions are going to play out. ok. another area event of foreign policy is where a future trump administration may have a huge impact. this is the conflict in the middle east. donald trump has a history of strong support for israel and the safety during the campaign of the war in guns issued and quickly. so that's being popular with many is raise what policy needs a skeptical. so i report that pos been asking people what they think about a trump presidency. astonishing with his writings, or i think it's the best thing for israel. the democrats or week they didn't support is real. and regardless of all of the issues surrounding trump is the best candidate to help the state of israel while we hope and pray that it will be for

the good of it. so in this last time, he was quite good as well. so we hope it'll be the same. actually i'm not too sure if some of the ahead of us would have been a better option to be honest for me for the stay in perspective. but if i was going to compare to the 2 evils, i think given that clinical data on pets with the palestinians and his previous mondays, it was too bad. and then now it's a nightmare coming back again. and this is not going to be good on the, especially because it's, we have a water here in the palestine genera. and then we wish for the best like games we will see what's going to happen. a boy is home and we presume that this is the result benjamin netanyahu was hoping for. yeah, i spent quite a spoken about it and public opinion, and this read has been very supportive of of donald trump. but trump has argued like a new cream that he would want to enter the war fast, but like in ukraine, he hasn't really presented a plan. so here to i think there's

a certain degree of incalculable idea which perhaps is becoming the new normal of international politics. okay, but we have seen of the, the, the, just over a year that this war has played out the, by the administration. viking israel, militarily, politically, financially bases also presumed to have cost hiring some votes in this election. so it's you know, what both could a, trump, whitehouse, a do to prove it support. so i think that's a good question. that's very difficult to answer because the yes button has been quite supportive. and yes, hers have to be more ambivalent and she was pushing for a cease fire. i guess no. tell me i was hoping that she has a better negotiating position with donald trump, backing them up. so yeah, we don't know how this is going to play out and what is a term such as you to around the force behind hezbollah and how much do we expect to every to and if his maximum pressure policy,

the thing with trump is she doesn't seem to have a very clear international relations agenda for him, this is about domestic policies. project 2025 from which he distanced himself, but which none the less seems to be sort of a guideline for what he's planning to do in office is all about the regulation. it's all about the libertarian approach to the markets. within the us, there's a shift towards economic nationalism which we've seen also under by them, but which we've seen in the 1st administration of trump. he's interested in these economic questions she's interested in, in securing and stabilizing and strengthening his own political position. he doesn't have an agenda for foreign policy that, that goes beyond that personal interest. okay. so to your a better job in terms of the old off schoultz has congratulated donald trump on his victory. he's called on your found the united states to continue to work closely together to deal with diesel new york in union. i'm just done closely together and

act in the united amount of bonus because german chancellor, i'm working towards this fund tons of both sides benefit from the transatlantic partnership. the you and the usa a to some of the logic and i'll make areas links and by the closest economic relations in the world a lot. okay, so when was the, from the german at chancellor? we have, we do know that jumped relations with you. repeating countries have been full in the past. i do see them working at this time. i think many of the same issues are still on the table. again, it's going to be about nato. it's going to be about spending 4 members who are pin members stepping up uh, what they, what they invest in the, in the alliance. but it's also going to be, of course, both terms much more perhaps even than the last time around to you. he mentioned some while ago that a terrace or his favorite word even speculates on abolishing the national income tax and replacing it with, with terrace to finance of state. so he is putting quite a lot of pressure on,

on europe, and it will have to step up, right? because it's, it's easy to forget that, that we ended up in something of a trade war between the, the, a, you and the us with tires on a steel island medium. concrete was in, there's whiskey in harley davidson motorcycles. also, it was very specific at the time, but now it's sort of escalated into a more full fledged agenda, i think, which is all about economic nationalism at a global scale. you do look for the upside on this. so i wonder if, well, the trump victory might encourage you to the latest, to just stand on their own 2 feet. now, whether it be defense or trade or whatever it's, it's the upside. but it's also somewhat scary upside because people have missed you occasion. the last 8 years to actually start this process, at least it seems like it's what, from what we hear from of some of the discussions. so yes, no, you're

a pass to unites it's, it's cannot just be an economic unit that needs to be. i think also a question of solidarity needs to be democratized to europe in unit is not sufficiently democratic. in order for there to be a commitment that can also go into the questions of defense and security. okay? during the campaign, donald trump repeatedly threatened to impose sanctions on on goods coming to america, especially from china. as the data journey is 1st to the 3rd is good, is the word we're doing the jobs and we're going to, you know, i charged china. china was charged by me. hundreds of billions of dollars over the last few years that we were on the phone. we are we going back to that to tired for? i think we are, but i think also that's a trump needs to be strategic about this. because if you put terence on everything as we learned, at least from the pen demik, for example,

if there's friction in the supply chains, then the price for commodities will go up. so inflation will return with a vengeance. and i think this will disgruntled trumps of voters, we have supported them precisely because of the problem of inflation. so i don't know exactly how is going to work this one out. ok. and a bigger picture. are we looking at the rise of towers around the world? or this, i mean, do your opinion and prepared for this. if trump imposes terrace, it will alter the impulse terms. so there is the possibility for such a trade war to escalate and for us to actually see exactly that. okay. so if we look at the likely effect on the global economy is quite interesting this morning when you looked at the stock market reactions and as lots of positive news on that. but that seemed to be more about the removal of uncertainty than necessarily a backing for, for,

for trump. how do you see things working out globally as trump withdrawals? i mean it, in part, i guess the reactions on the stock market, we're also about tesla and a truth social and so once or certain speculations on how these stocks would develop in the 1st administration. some economists have described the trump economy as a sugar high. so the regulation and the other measures that they put in place have, have a, have led to a certain type of growth and was very on even the distributed. so i think this is something that we might see as long as it serves a trump himself. but the thing is that trump, his candidacy built on this idea of him wanting to defend the true americans or the middle and lower class americans. so i'm wondering how he's going to square the circle. and on the one hand, try to to directly relate as much as he can,

a market ties everything that's possible and at the same time tried to keep his voter base satisfy. but there is a disjuncture does, does he need to? because as understanding he comes down again. no, that's right. the constitution says he who can step again. so a final dad on this, this notion of bringing jobs back and briefly if you, if you wouldn't mind, where are they coming to america from? i guess the hope is from china. i think the sale of the trump has been playing with all the long and it's all the way from 2016 is this idea of the post world war 2 moment where the west was still in industrial power. how us were manufacturing wasn't the wes, but he forgets the people weren't necessarily happy about the jobs on the, on the conveyor belt, but about the social security that came with it. so yeah,

maybe that. thank you so much for guiding us through that so. so clearly barza foreman bought college brother. thank you. thank you, phil. and that was the day um, online, of course the www. dot com or on the w out. a good thing, the

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