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on punish. maybe my voice will be heard next spring to our love seeking justice for the victims of fame. assign starts november 21st on d w. the . this is due to the news live from berlin. germany's governing coalition collapses to the old off, schultz acts finance minister, chris, you on linda and says he wants to call a confidence vote for january. also coming up earlier today, i spoke with president a like something congratulated him on his victory. i also told him that we will help him and his team with their transition and that we will engage in a peaceful transfer of power, vice president complet hair of speech, the supporters after conceding the election to donald trump, the
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stephen due to the invalid. welcome to our program. we begin with breaking news here in germany, where the governing coalition has collapse and transfer the old off schultz has called for a mid conference, excuse me for a confidence vote for mid january shots made the announcement after dismissing his finance minister, christie on lender, who was from the business friendly, free democrats. but they formed part of the country's 3 party coalition government . with the greens and the chancellor's social democrats. the confidence voted could trigger new parliamentary elections by the end of march. take listen to how schultz explained his decision is up in london. i asked for permission from the federal president to dismiss the finance minister. i was forced into this decision in order to prevent damage to our country so that we need a government capable of taking action that has the power to make the right decisions for our country. that's what i needed in the last 3 years. and that's
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what i need now. i made another extensive offer to the free democrats earlier today, so that we can close the holes in the budget. and to avoid scrubbing our country into chaos within the, the look at one this house actually isn't going on a long distance call assistance shots as decision follows month subdivision in the german government over the budget. and during a major slow down of the german economy, free democrat leader in finance, minister christian lender, blame chancellor schultz for the break up the um. fortunately, we made suggestions for an economic time around 12 to put the country back on the path to success. folks cause so being any god people cuz he's less bureaucracy, that's taxation of democracy, programmatic energy and climate policies. we have control more control of immigration. so we like stuck on at the same time strengthening the individual responsibility performance and encourage innovation, right? these are for the suggestions we're not even accepted as
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a basis for discussions by the social democrats or on greens. ok, it's up to you. what's that? what's jeremy's outgoing? finance minister question, lynn or max hoffman is head of news that dw he has more now on how chancellor schultz explained to break up. it's steven the overarching argument was his responsibility towards the country and he felt like he couldn't be in charge of that responsibility with this finance minister, which he called, among other things, by the way, disrespectful egoistic and also small minded. so you could tell, there was a lot of pent up frustration there from weeks if not months of conflict here, putting the blame squarely onto cnn or the former finance minister, of course of interest. we just heard, had a very different perspective on things, right, weeks and months of conflict leading to this breaking point. what timeline has schultz now given for the, the coming weeks and months ahead?
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we're done in the sound bite earlier and the plan is to have a vote of confidence in january. i will have shorts explained the rather late date . that's already been criticized by the way, by opposition politicians because he wants to introduce some laws. once he gets some laws passed by the end of the year, so basically uh, get things done that he still had planned. whether this is going to be successful or not is, is a different story and that lands him on the 15th of january for that vote. of confidence if he loses that boat, which seems extremely likely at this point. that brings us to march for early elections and then probably a new government for germany. max, help us understand this point a little bit more if the governing coalition has essentially collapse. why would we not see new elections immediately in this case? it's, it's basically up to or left. so it's to set the date here. and as i said earlier,
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you know, there are opposition politicians to say this needs to happen as fast as possible. ideally this year, so you could have early elections as early as january, but she should forget, you have christmas. you have the holidays here. that would make things a little more complicated. and you know, it's not completely impossible that there might be some calculation on behalf of or off shots and his party there that is given a little more time, they might be able to convince voters that they are well, you know, they're worth another vote in march. with those laws have a little more time for campaigning. so all of these factors might play a role here, but we don't know for sure. what if anything, can we say about the timing of this announcement following donald trump's re election? should we read anything more into them as i thought about that, and because beforehand, you know, a lot of people said is trump, is elected. that might actually be an argument for this call. listen to,
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to get it together and try to continue. but uh, i wouldn't worry too much into it because of the don't forget, it seems, it seems so far away now. but um, 24 hours ago. we uh, we thought we all thought because of the polls that com, la harris at a very decent shot at the company, the president's meeting. nobody knew that trump was really going to be the next president. and uh, so putting everything in a plan like that and the timing seems unlikely, it's much more likely that this is build up and, and the deciding factor here, among others, was the budget negotiations because the plan was to, to try to nail down a budget by next week and for 2025 and it was always clear that this was going to be a rather big obstacles because the views on what this budget should look like and what should be fine as and whatnot. we're very different within this coalition as how did this coalition become so divided in the 1st place?
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it's a long story. i took a long time and if i had to break it down in the most simple terms, you know you had problems with issues. there were 3 coalition partners in germany. you always have a coal, isn't government to get a majority in parliament. this time with 3 parties which made it more complicated because some of them, those parties were very different. for example, the left wing of the greens or the left with these left wing of the social democrats, very different from certain elements of the business friendly liberals. so they were at odds where to spend the money where to have tax cuts for whom to have tax goods. what to do about social benefits, who should profit from then? also ecological transition, very difficult. but then there was also the question of communication and form, generally speaking, because they fought in public all the time really. each time they thought they'd solve the problem, the new fight would break out a new dispute, new discussion,
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nothing stayed confidential, really. uh, so everything was known about those meetings, even if they were off the record documents that were supposed to be confidential or made public even today, you know, so, so you basically saw the, the same sentence today and that's really not a basis for trust. it's not a basis for confidence and it makes a word for a governing coalition so much harder and certainly was a major factor in why so much frustration was built up over these months. right. that's max hoffman, head of news at dw max. thank you. and here's a closer look at just how germany is governing coalition reached its breaking point . the tensions between the parties in germany's government had been growing for some time with economic policy, causing the biggest clashes between the chancellor, olaf, schultz, economy minister,
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robert havoc and finance minister 1st general in there. the next election wasn't scheduled until september of next year. now it looks like it might happen in march, and campaigning will begin a lot sooner. next, mid gigabytes partial bad. i find that totally irritating and also super disappointing. i have the feeling that we're already in election campaign mode. so some people are no longer interested in finding real solutions within the group, but only in positioning themselves with it to me, i think that this one, i think it's an unworthy spectacle. that's happening at the moment. one working against the other with no common ground that can be established. the disagreements at the center of the collapse revolver on how to revive jeremy slightly economy, which frank last year and barely avoided recession this year. the country continues to struggle with high energy costs and fears, competition from china, particularly in the automotive market. both consumer and business confidence is low
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. and what else? germany faces and nearly 10000000 euro gap and next years budget. how can i get out of this mess? that's the question. how back and lender have very different answers to call back believes targeted government spending will stimulate the economy. well, lender wants spending costs as a soften climate regulations. one thing everyone can agree on is that the divisions are damaging to all parties and that the collapse comes at a particularly bad time for germany. jerry and the future policies of us president elect donald trump, are expected to pose a king's challenge to european trade and security. and now germany long regarded as europe leader and international issues is distracted by domestic affairs. he's always chief political auditorium. charlotte cruz now has more on europe's biggest economy being marked in political crisis on the same day that donald trump was reluctant. it was the split talk to the timing because this actually happens. the
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announcements by ourselves came as i was possibly standing at howard university, waiting for pamela harris and her concession speech. so quite an eventful 24 hours that leaves the united states in a very different kind of house for the future. also, europe, and suddenly germany is europe's largest economy and it's rather unbelievable that keeps talking about how many billions are missing out of its budget. one of the richest countries in the world. and this will add more uncertainty to the weeks, months next year to come. as donald trump comes into office here in january, that will be the moment when the german chancellor actually has this vote of confidence in parliament, which he is fairly certain to do's. and it will take stephanie's president to otherwise only has a ceremonial role, to actually take that decision and declare new elections. and that's why this is not leading immediately and very, very fast to fresh elections,
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to stop elections. but that's also because old ourselves clearly doesn't just want to get a few more laws through. he also once a bit of time to talk with the current office, as indeed escalation mats from the conservative good. he still has hopes that he can afford some kind of minority and government, some kind of corporation, despite the fact that he's been, he's been told by flourish, match the opposition, the, that, that he's simply not up for that help us understand the background of this max told us a little bit about what's been happening over the past years, especially the last few weeks and months. we saw in his speech data shorts, when right after his former coalition partner. was this break abrupt or to what extent did we see it coming? or it was like watching a very unhappy 3 way marriage unfold, which ton it started up beads, and it turned out on the 15th of november 20 and 23. that's when dummies,
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constitutional court ruled that the budget, those 3 parties would force together wherever you would have gone a lot of what they wanted. i'm actually simply was blown out with the rules that by rooting that said, they cannot use 60000000000 for climate fund. that was funding a lot of this. and ever since they've been trying to find money to finance the glue that was keeping them together that each policy was guessing products was guessing as suddenly a funding directed its way into it's most key projects. so a lot of that was climate as well. climate related, so they never really recovered from that ever since. it took ends as rounds of debates. compromises that were then questioned again, agreements that were once questioned again until we actually arrived at this very point which has been described by the vice chancellor and leading figure of the greens them all by topic as the worst possible time. yes it is. but if germany
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wants to, again represent what it is known for stability in europe, and then it needs a stable government. and this government hasn't been stable for a very, very long time. the worst possible timing, perhaps in part because the economy and the crisis that's going on right here in germany. what does this crisis mean for the future of the german economy, at least in the near term. and the middle term there's, there's 2 arguments that they shouldn't have broken up because it needs, this is a decision is now to stabilize them. these economy, if you speak to people who are actually in the economy running companies, they are simply sick and tired of the debates. they just saw a proposal from the topic of the trade minister advice on so they sold proposal from the finance minister. they simply know what it, what will be the road ahead? what would be the tax rate? would it be more competitive with the united states, particularly as they expect to take
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a hit when donald trump takes over as us president. and this goes beyond any kind of terrorist, this is donald trump, solely requesting also make is to produce more in the united states rather than in europe rather than in germany. and it's no coincidence that we so the that sector, the automotive companies, dips top the at, at the, in trading today. where as um we sold tesla, which is own so we're not, well not owned anymore, but led by a loan mosque actually, sky brokers because these, this will be the new set of circumstances that dominates the german government. and german companies will have to respond to once donald trump comes into office and they want to see some clarity on the plan. ahead by then and looking at this now they're still unlikely to get it to be as cheap political editor, michelle, a group that they're talking about that coalition break up. that's unfolded tonight
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in berlin. michelle, thank you steve. united states now and vice president. a couple of harris where she's spoken to her as supporters for the 1st time since her election defeats the republican donald trump trump stage a remarkable come back to win the white house for a 2nd time after searching to victory in a string of swing states, harris accepted the loss at howard university in washington, dc where she held her election watch party on tuesday. my heart is full today. my heart is full to day, full of gratitude for the trust you have placed in may full of love for our country. and full of resolve the outcome of this election is not what we wanted. not what we fought for, not what we voted for. but hear me when i say hear me when i
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say the lights of america's promise will always burn right. as long as we never give up and as long as we keep fighting, the new folks are feeling and experiencing a range of emotions right now. i get it, but we must accept the results of this election. the earlier today, i spoke with president e, like trump and congratulated him on his victory. i also told him that we will help him and his team with their transition and that we will engage in a peaceful transfer of power to
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w correspondent you know, do with alan was at howard university for the speech. and she told us more about what stood out of the yeah, steven. so and, and motional a camera la harris. so i took the stage at howard university. she thanked her supporters. she sang to she sang president by then she launched one last broad side against donald trump by referencing that peaceful transfer of power. well, that's something we know that the president elect has not always been such a fan of. but what really stood out to me was how similar for speech sounded to of a 2016 concession speech of a hillary clinton to the saying that and to donald trump, both women in their speech says, reminded their supporters of that. so the health of a constitutional democracy does not only depend on the governments but to, but also on citizens, a commitment to values like the rule of law, like fairness and dignity for all. of course, however,
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there were some differences if you remember, hillary clinton's famous light and his speech was directed at all to the little girls. she was reminding them that they were powerful and valuable and deserving of every opportunity for campbell. a harris's party directed her message, the young people saying it was ok to be disappointed, but in the end it was going to be ok. she also reminded them that they to have power. no, of course it wasn't all the young people who were present here at the concession speech today was a cross section of society. we spoke to some of them to ask about their reactions to pamela harris, who speech here is what some of them had to say. i found it extremely moving, despite the circumstances that she is still encouraging us to continue and not give up and also not to be afraid of what's coming. i'm so happy that i got to hear her speak today and that she sounds so optimistic outstanding, and she's remarkably galvanizing figure and she was for what do we on about
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70000000 americans in the selection? and i think she should be really proud of that. i mean emotional because of the problem is that she had for all of us, not just people in the united states but for people around the world. and um it just. 6 it's a little bit that we won't have the benefit of her leadership, and i also have dimension. many people were openly crying here today, there was an entire range of emotions on display from grief and despair. but also, as you heard there of hope and of optimism. now we know the democrats are still trying to process what was an unexpected twist in the selection. did harris give, however, any suggestion where her party goes from here? i don't know that she made any really concrete suggestions, vera but what did strike me is that you took some of the features over stump speech
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and also re purpose them into her concession speech. so she had the, the slide that she would always take with her on the campaign trail though, when we fight we, when line. and this time she was saying, you know, sometimes when we fight it can take a while, but eventually we will win though i don't think she really bad thought as advice for the democrats. so i think she meant that more as a general rallying cry. but in this time of the democrats, deep identity crisis, these questions that they have to answer. who do they fight for? what do they fight for, and what will it take to win in this moment of intense loss? those questions are ex, essential for the party. all right, that's the, the piece you know to load at howard university in the us. thanks. you know, thomas smells rich is head of the election observation. mr. mission from the organization of security and cooperation in europe. i asked for his assessment of the us election, given the concerns meeting up to the vote. this last thing do,
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1st of all, for having me on this program. indeed, there will these speculations. what i can safely say is that these selections were managed professionally. first of all, during the election day we whatever we of the it was peaceful, calm, and very effective. we did not observe a significant issues with the, with the election process. there were reports uh, obviously for some minor malfunctioning, uh, some of the, uh, some of the machinery. but other than that, so at this point, we can safely say that this was a very well managed election mass for the, the expectations we ourselves did not form expectations with their got the with regard to this election, we never do that by the methodology to be employed that would be misleading our, our efforts to add to observe. at the same time, of course, we were aware that the very last segment of the us have that of us built
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as we're convinced that the election process is somehow fundamentally at fault. and this has never been proven all the quotes cases about the previous election. i found these allegations as alan found it, and it seems that this was a very, very transparent and very, very clear show. okay, so just to be clear, we know that in the days before the election there were numerous claims of voter fraud made on social media. did you observe any evidence for any of these claims? you know, wherever we observed, we did not have any reports from our long term observers or the short term was it was employed by the parliamentary assembly at o. s. c, for any malfeasance during the, during the election is not to mention direct election for we know we do not have
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those opposite patients. we have these obligations, but we treat them as the locations in our, in our report. how much the us is. one big country with 50 different states each has their own election laws and their own processes for tallying votes for counting them afterwards. how difficult does that make your job realtor basketball? what kinds of challenges are obviously one challenge in the united states is exactly the man, the extreme, the centralization of the jurisdictions concerning elections. this may be not very well known that there are updates 1000 different jurisdictions that have a say on how actually uh, collections are carried out of the process and the details of the process. which of course, is not very easy to uh, to find out. first of all, however, having said that, uh in the us, the major advantages that information relating to that is public and therefore
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available regularly is just a very large amount of information that we need to collect in order to make our assessment. we know that some states made very specific changes to their election to their vote tally in processes, including in some cases requiring hand counts. what did that contribute to the overall security of the vote? if anything or of, of the changes which have been made. some of them are very close to to election are 1st of all because they might, in some cases, him back to the legal step of the damage and expectations our country to add to the actual united commitments that have all the or religious commitments to how the united states, but as far as security is concerned, i don't think they have any major impact even had an impact. it was more on the restriction of access to access to those things. did you see any differences
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between the electoral process in 2020, again, where there was so much skepticism? there's a lot of criticism afterwards in particular from republicans and, and this year. well, this is again, one of the methodological foundations of the election of the version that we do not compare either across countries. we do enough can compare elections in one country to another. and we do not compare across time. exactly, you know, to not to not to formulate in advance of expectations that minds mislead, actually the opposite vision completely. so i cannot, i cannot come on directly on the, obviously there are trends which we sometimes are able, unable to mention because they have an impact on, on the current selection. but i am direct comparisons. we do not make we treat every election separate any so we as i'm in its own merits, not in relation to a previous that accepts your election observer. you're the head of an election
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observation team from the o. s. c e. you're very familiar with his job, have a lot of experience. how concerned are you going ahead either when you look at the us or other countries that this, this kind of changing the rules around elections could become more prevalent to try and either favor one side or another or reduce access to, to elections? what do you see? so again, we have a relatively to good practice international good practice, which we will uh, always refer to. and district wise, that change is regarding election process is, is specially routine rides should be made well involves all the elections and the country which i think it has. and these, and very close to elections are contributing at least the best practices. sometimes the direct apple or the or commitments me that's published as rich from the
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o. s. c e office for democratic institutions and human rights and had of the election observation mission. thank you. thank you very much. and here's a reminder of our top story. germany's governing coalition has collapsed after chancellor, olaf shoulds fire, dis, finance minister shots as called for a confidence vote in mid january and early elections could be held by the end of march. before this crisis, germany was due to elect a new government in september 2025 and you're up to date we vaccine with more headlines. meantime, check us out online. dot com also on youtube under dw chan secretary's invalid. thanks for watching the . all that's left is a grave. and then slide buried, manuel saw that it was a path as wise,
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