that is one of the few sources in the 1st thing in listening to the content about sexuality and sexual matters. i'm liza model that and i'm going to be exploring all listen more in a new season of my thoughts matches available on all platforms. the . this is dw news out for the coming up on the program looks. a lot of votes for change to model shows the door to the policy, the rules, since independence. the opposition's man takes office as looks one as a new president, his predecessor merquiades the my stacy tells dw, it's important to respect democracy. even when you lose, by participating and subscribing to his ideals, goes with the us septics before and or whatever the outcome of donald trump is back. we discussed the state of us africa relations and what they

could look like over the next 4 years. and following reese and mass protest in kenya rights group, say government critics have been targeted in a wave of productions, disappearances, and even killings active as the ones that police held responsible the i'm told me. alrighty. well, welcome to the program. it's been a swift resolution and a smooth transition in both swan or after last week's elections. do my vocal is the new president. he defeated mcquaid the msc who served one time while the entry elections also sort of a line slide rejection of my ccs. botswana, a democratic party, which had govern since independence in 1966, the election reinforced as books on his reputation as one of africa as more stable

democracies. but it also highlighted public consent over issues like economic mismanagement, the growing wealth gap and high unemployment is a. it's a handshake that will go down in books. one is history book, which see my cc meeting, his success to do my bulk of the habit educated human rights. slowly i was elected in a surprise when the outgoing president was the 1st to accept that it was time to move on to the move in 3 weeks to dublin in order to submit to the news. and so thank you very much. i

i accepted with accepted with some trepidation normally is a big assignment and a size make monday for change unit tiny electorate. what's one not only has a 1000000 votes as but 80 percent of them turned out to cast their ballots. that translated into 36 out of 61 seats, and then the u. z as in to boca sent to left umbrella democratic change in the when to to get the military. i'm glad that we have the change in government. and we were unhappy because of unemployment. now we look forward to seeing what the new government will do for us. it was the time lucky football coach, deformed the scene, 2012 to unite the opposition. it's pledged to adult to fold economic strategy creat

wellpaid jobs and then show a fat wealth distribution with a message that resonated among spot swan and his challenge now is to deliver all stuff at the same site. as he's pre does that, sir. we have with us now the immediate former president of what's on his excellency mcquaid, c. msc, joining us now from how that all need to reflect on those elections. good to have you on the programs come reg is commiseration. you accepted the results, it might be the easiest thing to do in books on that, but that's not the case everywhere else. so what message do you hope this sends to other nations where democratic norms are not as well respected? and thank you very much and good a good evening. um the message, just simple. the minute you submit yourself to an electronic contest and declared to be that believe and democracy

a petition of democracy know very well that it could turn out to be different from what you expected. and by participating and subscribing to his ideals goes with the settings before hand or whatever the outcome is. and that is fixed so that i know that you also have an interest in responsibility when you participate in leadership and elect oral context, you have that responsibility to make sure or that you lead and you need, right? you need fairly honestly, and you make sure that nobody, no country is lead into conflict. right. okay. was this result a surprise for you to not just to, to, to lose, but to lose by such a margin. yes, it was, it must have surprise to us. but you know,

when you come to think of it in terms all the promises and manifesto we put for what we reasoned and we still believe in the manifesto we put forward it was a plausible and achievable manifesto in our calculations. we thoughts and still do think that they made it faster and promises to the voters by both parties. one that one and the one that made a position where exaggerated achievable and unsustainable. and so we have the effect of the demographic, david and young people with very high levels of unemployment. and that setting, you know, frustration at not doing jobs and the appeasement that was brought about by the

opposition promises, including their conduct towards the elections way. it would seem, there was a lot of happiness or just people vote to be and actually on a enrolled today, i suggest that they attracted many more young people. because if you look at a total vote, as we go the 2nd, the 2nd highest number of votes is um, but without the best possible system, we suffered very badly and verified that the routing party now the good, the highest number of seats, the highest number of voters followed a number of seats by and up as a bunch of the premises, much the same things suggest that they a piece of meat, particularly to do with money and benefits at west. it could be the more for them than they did for us. we certainly probably is less in terms of the salary and

other benefits, but i'm, i'm show people would be also looking at your track record in, in, in the period you were in office. and i've heard people talking about a range of issues from dissatisfaction with your handling of the economy or what happened during the coven period, or somebody been saying, your tone deaf some even saying they felt they couldn't trust you. where do you think it went wrong? and in terms of your track read records over the past few years, i think a, you know, everybody's entitled to the opinion you in your examples of cause entreated on the alleged negative side or what you're supposed to be my particular quote. there's an awful lot that can be said to. busy what i did that was positive, but you know, these are perceptions. so it's not a problem. i think what has happened is this what i said,

people were promised an awful lot and fair enough in that a topic. and so it takes a lot of negative views of said about myself and my body. it's not an issue of truthfulness. it's an issue. oh, what is believable? what you can see is that people are going to say for themselves, and they can tell by what's in their pocket. they can tell you, you know, just by that the, the, that the hardships in life, whether or not you're doing a good job. i know, and i said that, but you know, this is that really cheap, right? that's what i'm saying. those. what amplified the fact that you didn't have a job amplified? is it true? yes, it's true. i sent it. but given the fundamentals of what we had, we would rate the best that could be done. we failed in terms of balancing what you did for the economy and keeping it sustained. we were doing well and reasonably,

please about please me. so. so would you give us a state of, if you look at the pita of coverage, we were very responsible for going to the corporate. we did a lot of things. we saved it was lives. we had people, we bought them, did. we did everything according to the book that was and typically a quite a rebuild that's past this and best. that's why we are mess so much. we were able to deliver so much in 3 years over 5 years, because we had made so much more money. right, but we have this thing like commodity driven economy. and don't you say that was an issue at the failure to diversify from a single commodity. he has been telling me, tell me, who does he buys it to vegas. tell me. we did a lot to attempt to develop, but i can list the range of these. but he did. look, i took over 2018. what happened with that is occasion all these other?

yes, it's not an easy task. it isn't with a dry country where a landlord to, oh, was around did by the countries. and we have many scenes that mitigate against either that verification. right. but we had democratic, we stick to principles, we believe in the rule of law and, and i'm very satisfied with medical at the present level. i'm very gratified am i happy about my party and i'm really happy. we were honest, we were, we didn't do see the voters. we went out or put up a good fight. and yes, we will be to i a sceptics. and that's the responsible thing to do. because if you don't do that, what more are you asking? and then will be another jobs. let us wish the new government, the very best for them. and we will put them to the test will hold them accountable . we're going to do to be very informed, incisive

a position. and i really do wish the best for them, and i really wish we had proven wrong and it works. but i still am not convinced that the problem is, is they meet, can be delivered. and you talked about holding them accountable. what role would you pass in any play of what was going forward? what, what do we see in the future for you as well? i'm still head of my party. i made it clear that the, when the next congress comes about and we have elected congress, which is in the yes or just the. yeah, i will not present myself. busy for the election to the leadership, but i remember loyal, loyal, and committed member of the party, i will work with the party. i would help rebuild my party at 70. i'd sincerely, deeply believe in his ideals it, but i will not seek election as head of the party or any significant office

position. okay, we're wish you all the best in those endeavors. what's on a former president? look with the must easy. thank you very much for your time. thank you. have a good time. and there's also been change over in the us. donald trump will be returning to the white house after winning the presidential elections this week. during the last, trump administration advocate did not feature prominently. in fact, us africa policy was largely driven by washington is designed to counter the influence of china and russia. otherwise, the trump government maintained security corporation and attempted to turn the relationship mostly towards trade. let's get the thoughts of tenure lot tile policy advisor joining us from durham, north carolina. good. you have you on the program tenure law. now. africa didn't feature significantly during trumps last time. and to be fair, it hasn't been prominent either on the bite. and so should we expect more of the

same going forward policy wise? as i think it really depends. i mean terms, richard has been very clear. it's about making america great again. and then the question is, what extensive a line we've got an entry. so of course, making that america great again, has looked at the america streets policy, some industrial policy issues. and i think that's somewhere along the line. i guess i'm gonna be looking in that's but squarely because of some of the tribute nations of fine honest, let's say the century, the agreement between african countries are some of the best punches on the us. and there shouldn't be uncle one. the issue that of a go is that it expires next year. so what do you think we should expect in that regard? well, i mean that is the question that everyone is asking. now what can be fixed for make some 5 ministration of press uh, go ahead something. i mean, when he was president the last time he was mostly against the go i, he was somewhat supportive of it. but then in langley, some of the recent development of the street police equally good,

they'll have to be able to secure his position on the trip access. that's a block, provided. i know that some countries, for example, like south africa, the next the various they've come from, i'll go are, are maybe a good contact, because then i'll go, i type to some of the different policy objectives. for example, i'm condition countries like rochelle, china. but i, since, because i see you have interest of some of the countries, they do not use a goal as much. so perhaps they're not as concerned, but the quite different anyhow. get eyes on what is gonna happen with them. pull off. how should african countries be positioning themselves at this point? the one thing that we seemed to know these of the trade was within the us, i'm fine, i may not be going anywhere anytime soon. so there's a question of how some directly flies to apply for some of the, the, by the change that's kind of 100 are looking to, i'm pretty good to participate in maybe a, let's put it up to the us and what that really look like. so can you start to

increase the combined factor in of some products that you're not as vulnerable to some of the tires that may be put in place um, targets in china and so that they don't effect, i think i'm afraid of. but also when it comes to the foreign policy, recognizing that had the words changed, and i mean some people call it the most of my physical difficulties. want to pull, i repeat. but then just understanding what that means. but also the days that you show the doc for our on the one integration, i mean trump coming into offices on defense with some of the other things. there's been globally which, which are spending a lot of politicians right on this very. and my grandson, say me christian rhetoric so well, i think i just want you to understand what that means for them. like the death for of people in africa that are looking to travel to study or to work. and then you know, preparing i had for some of the inevitable realities and yeah, see that is that some of the things that keep our eyes on just based on this conversation we've had, it seems to focused predominantly on trade. um,

but we do know that in the past it was you know, securities um security cooperation, red development aid. we've been hi, just uh, you know, things to do is like for example, governance and, and, and, and human rights. are we seeing that those will pretty much take a backseat and it will be mostly business as the trump registration. generally, of course has been very clear about the very domestically full cost. you make the, the american symbol, restarting america's position in the wall. it's about making sure that america partner has a pain, the fisher, and it's really about making america. you know, i p. c briefing games to domestic issues with enough kind of countries may not be as much of a part of the on the left. the in directly related to some other trick police different points objectives. ok to new la tile. we appreciate your insights. thank you for speaking to us. the pleasure. thank you.

but can you a national human rights commission says it's investigated some 60 cases of extra diesel killings. and 71 cases of abductions and enforced disappearances. since mass protest swept the country in june for weeks young canyons, the so called gen z, lead process over pull governance of events tend violent during their resulting police track down. which activists say has not ended, dw correspondent felix maureen has been following the story for us in i robi, as the money in whites, e. c. c, a being pointing to the truck is benefits. want to say police are often detailed communicating it out. officially. interesting. you change into or allowing him to contact you to be able to relate to the experience of the point is that no mccain's in the nearby explain to the rest the new so good the top bundling

a cost and everyone is and in the car and it clearly talk to you when did you feel so scared experiencing that you can actually go and never be seen again. she's a photojournalist informing into political activities. it's this walk he sees that makes him want to get, but he's not the only one before being abducted. then what to be seen again, all the bodies of phones looking quite ray or not revised, or then what does it have a phone so it has categories with the family. actually. this is your government proposed tax increase prompted process in a building and sometimes a violent response from the police at the end of august president premium due to a promise to the doctors that it will stop in it. in most areas of this region, if they use a permit, any pharmacy that their child or their friend or their relative went to a demonstration, whether these lots to deal with this. yeah, i never came,

but i want to know the names because i would take some and decisive action because as i talked to you today, i don't have a single name of somebody who has been affected or disappeared. but they kinda national commission on human rights. an official independence body has it recorded 7 to one that's on seems ghost gym protest. head of the can see child the ballad. my guess i said it was having that shooting effect on local defense. bulls will have been quite vocal. i'm speaking on, you know, issues they are likely to going to be, you know, for fear of their lives. and there must be guarantees that when issues are raised, questioning, you know, accountability, questioning, transparency. there must be a way we protect both ways. those voices, a number of european diplomatic nations in a row, be including those of gemini, so that you k last month wrote an open letter saying we not our consent alone going

protest off. i'd be tell you address and enforce the disappearances. we not presidential does commitment that such incidents would not happen under his watch. and that all the individuals involved will be held accountable. we ask the police savvy and the independent policy of a site to a 3 d for comments for these reports, but didn't receive virus points waiting for this morning. he sees, he'll continue if he's a position on the walk in the country where they sort of low, where they have run news, uh to the justly humane country. unless corrupt the country, a country every sunday equal chance in life. he sees that his vision is what the objections, the tops on his phone, and the fields of his family, a speak to face or the on the president of the law society of kenya. she joins us from nairobi. good to have you on the program face now,

can you tell us more about what's going on with these cases, these abductions, most of these people disappearing without a trace of law. they actually being charged with something specific. well, we have cases that people have disappeared and we've not been able to find them. and we're still making calls and trying to follow up because there are some people that's displayed, the family members the visiting the different police stations. we've not been able to trace them. and so it's, it's just that to me. illustration of what people see is yet to come. there have been people we've, we've reported have died in the, in, in these incidents of disappearances. have, has there been any sort of legal recourse or ends as for their families? and that's the set this thing, what's happening in our country because we've seen people have been being short.

however, the trajectory from what happened in the killings into and then i stopped with the next slide, was the fast identity to be killed in doing this demonstrations was that the, the booklets used picked up by a police officers who don't identify themselves or when they go to the main government to fire was most people that was treating most gosh with wounds all the bullets once they will budget to do the same. they had been picked up. and so you cannot prosecute without that, but list the evidence to coordinate to the bullets to the shooter. so that has been the greatest problem. and secondly, the question would be, to me, be sure we have been to in the independent policing of us, i believe that was set up to investigate this through police officers who abused their powers. however, people have been scared to even present themselves to the evidence because of their

eyes and pieces. little objections, i don't know. i mean, yeah, that's what they're not going to come up to the evidence that they would also be forcefully disappeared. right. i was also going to ask you about that sort of the hope of any accountability through these watch dogs, like, uh, like, uh, i boy, you mentioned, but uh, onto a, a related issue. and that's being the concerns raised the box, the surveillance techniques, the government is using to monitor defense as is this something your challenging legally are planning to challenge legally or whether they are planning to change it and just leave them the, the attempts to they want to call the me to the tell clothes and the aim that to him to see that they want to know how much people that transacting with. but you know, busy him is to ensure that they integrate the relax because of some of the biggest stokum companies. and now facing the will suits because of shedding people's private data that i'm doing the generally demonstrations of sucking retail cause

have been a at the forefront being sanctioned by members of the public as being the ones that helped the government identify the agencies who were at that to conduct police is what do you think this whole scenario says about the state of expression and democracy and, and just people's general ability to, to speak about what's going on in, in, in society and in government. and can you just just briefly for us to go to an extent that noted none of these being used to them and attempts to stay for the rights of people that likes to be kids to assembly. to share that with us because the jims is have shown that you can organize and call the needs people not on the physical spaces. so we feel this is a heightened, we to fluff street those jim s we've a fort for below 5 that we have under the constitution. and we will continue to

fight through the channels of law to ensure that that's right is more than taking that we face available off the law society. okay. yeah, thank you for speaking to us. thank you and thank you for being with us. that's why we'll leave it to you next time the

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