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early notice, and i think that is being underestimated by politicians across the board. that not everybody who says, you know, is getting a bit too much is automatically a new nazi. and that is something way, especially the greens because i've been talking about and so long. they do have to come to terms with that reality. they are some of them a very quick judging people, you know, when, whenever they say, but don't we have a problem in some areas, we need to look at it more closely. so on the one side, i would say we've got too much information and not enough people have the patients, like you to sit down and listen to people trying to explain context. you know, we see our quick feeds, etc. and then of course, yeah, some, some people are refusing to address problems because it doesn't fit that possibility. i have another question of focus sondra, i believe. and i think we can put that on the screen right now.
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uh, from mccoy s. h, will germany force companies to move to the us due to the terrace, which will be imposed by trans governments. and how would that affect the employment rate over the next 2 years? tariffs have definitely been a focal point on our desk. we're trying to figure out how much of this is gonna actually be implemented and how much of it is bluster at this point. but there have already been incentives from the us government to move some business to the us, the, the green new deal, or the inflation reduction act from the united states was a big driver to get business to relocate there. so we've already seen a little bit of this, but tariff, that's, that's a, that's a stick. right. that, that the us government is really trying to beat people over the head with. so it's a possibility. so something that was quite interesting that i was reading today related to the trump presence,
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then see that just sparks for me from that question is that the german defense company riding natal actually saw it very good day on the stock markets today because they're anticipating that from the trump a new, the incoming, the new old trump administration that's coming in january. that there's going to be this line again from washington that germany needs to spend more on defense funding . so that's one company that's already seeing this as a potential boone here in germany. and i would, i would argue that on like 2016 when politicians experts now the general public here in germany were completely taken by surprise by donald trump victory this time around. that has been a bit of preparation. i mean, politicians have traveled to washington. they have tried to establish contact with us. they are aware that well, they wear away even in a couple of years ago, that this might be a possibility that he would come back. they've now not understood a bit best of what he's asked us. so he's very transactional, right?
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yeah. so if you find a way of identifying donald trump's interests and try and find a way of making sure that it doesn't contradict your own interests, i think the germans have to learn how to do political diplomacy. that is interest driven. we haven't done that. we are not very experienced, but bell a big no. no. so in, in, in that's been a very big no. no. yeah. i should be egotistical about your, you know, all your, your country's best interest is an eagerness to go. i don't know, you know, but if we look at it, i was looking at how uncle america congratulates at donald trump and his victory at the time. and she gave this speech about, you know, how we're joined by common values and you know that democracy is very important. the rights of minorities, essentially reminding the front of you to, for guess about all of those. and then compare that to how life shorts and i know
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lena bab upset, right. okay, we've got the message. you will probably tell us again exactly what you said. you need to invest a lot more in military. so. okay, now all of us, europeans, we need to pull together. now whether that's going to happen, i don't know, but there's a very clear line to me between at the current german economic close and any potential tariff that com, right? so about 10 percent of german exports just under 10 percent. go to the us. so if parents get tests get whacked on those, that's bad, but well, that's a lot. but what are those items that actually go to the us? it's auto and the auto industry mechanics, things that are at the core of the german manufacturing heart that i was talking about earlier. so these industries that are already kind of struggling energy hungry in industries. i have seen their, um, their margins shrink. they're going to be looking for a smoother relations and unlike any, any chancellor that comes into assessments now selection of michael had
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a lot of grubby tests and history behind her and her relationship with the us. i would guess that like a new chancellor isn't gonna have the same kind of political backing. the younger merkle had at the time, so it feels like it could be very transactional. today i'd like to come back to the actual coalition crises that we would talk to a lot about the background of it. and you could see that in the last couple of months, really step by step, how events have driven this a changes in policy crossing of red lines. the one was, for example, the attack enrolling and that has forced the government to or change its policies towards immigration. another important piece of news that came out just recently and that was foreseeable is that v. w. one of the crowns of diamonds in the crown of german industry, it was
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a leading company is about to close suite whole factories in germany breaking with a decades long traditions right back to its history to do that. and that was a shock to the system. i think it was, it was in the maybe many voters even so that felt that god is coming. this close just cassandra explained to us how important the car industry and especially folks fun is for jeremy. well, when you think of german cars, volkswagen is probably one of the 3 that you're definitely thinking of. and when we talk about german manufacturing, it's a huge part of the german economy. i know i'm repeating myself, but it's just true it's, it's a big driver here. and germany is an outlier in the european union with how much it relies on manufacturing france for example, i think is it about 4 or 5 percent of its g. d, p is manufacturing. and when you, that's on the macro level, but when you look on it edit on the more of
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a zoomed in level, these towns, these factories are in, are built around these factories. those closures aren't just gonna have small sites . they're gonna have massive ripple effects throughout those community. so both on the macro level and on the micro level of where those 3 plants will be closed on. and i don't believe that they have announced which ones will be closed, have decided yet, right? so those are, that's going to be an earthquake for those tasks that if you remember that a couple of weeks back when that was announced, what was the reaction from the political class here in bella? and do you remember? oh, of course volkswagen is also a special company because the the states of new does x and so low saxony has a state in the company, so i need to say on the board. so, you know, this is a semi public company. so obviously all the local, all the regional and politicians were last talked. they were all involved. they
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were given positive blame. and this is a political drum as much as an economic drama. and i would just like to add, it's not just the jobs, right? i mean, this is the identity of lots of communities. the germans and the cons. i mean people make films about that and you know, there are, there are countries around the world that celebrate in german made cause. and yeah, it's a psychological issue as well. one other reason for the problems that this coalition has faced is the fact that the growing anger about the fact that germany seems to be crumbling and be breaking apart at the seams. we're just looking at the railway system trains on, on time anymore. and the so the fabled german collector steaks, i would just losing them right now is that one of the coal reasons,
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would you agree that that's one of the core reasons this coalition has imploded? well, one economists i was talking to is talking about how the under investment here in germany was just tragic. and i was trying to connect some of these dots and it seems like under investment or less investment does really line up with the debt break. it went into effect, i think in 2016 after is passed in 2009 or it could have, it could have gone into effect sooner than not. but under investment has been a story here and you see it all around germany. there were headlines around the world during the world cup when the men, the visitors to watch the men's european cub, excuse me, the summer that the trains were just not running on time. and it was really affecting football fan. so you don't want to a psych football fans when they're trying plaza the so this has been a slow so. 2 crumble and it's becoming more and more visible not only to, to people living here in germany, but from the to the outside world as well. and this is, of course, the biggest criticism of uncle americans,
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legacy. i mean people around the world celebrated ungrammatical as the leader of the fee weld. when donald trump go, it likes it and bama stuff down. so of course it was, he was in a position the economy was running smoothly, everything was working well. and the conservatives in part of the time really became complacent and enjoy that situation. and this is something that you do have to give them the current and go. government is you do have the line for a long time, paul, to bundle americans government as well. and certainly, democrats, yeah, so uh, yeah, the greens ones, the ftp ones and they were warning about that for, for very long time. and then they did roll up their sleeves. but i mean, how much can you fix up to 16 years old, but, you know, those coalition governments who, who were not prepared to make all these uncomfortable decisions and cause delays. because if you're building a new train connection, then of course there's going to be delays and that's right. and this is not very popular for politicians. this is path of least resistance that keeps coming up like
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it. why, why it changes the german auto manufacturer? why change what kind of car you're building? if there's so many consumers in china that are willing to buy these nice mercedes benz, of these very nice other cars. why invest in this infrastructure? if what we can do is actually just kind of stay the course of a keep getting gas from russia, for example, to build new pipelines, to make that even easier, the path of least resistance. and it's really the costs are becoming very apparent . now, we have of, i would assume a roughly 3 minutes less than i would like to include where at least one last view of questions or use of course a t k is asking what is, is in germany's government affect its relations with the rest of europe. the us and china. very interesting question. thank you very much, t k. i mean, uh it depends on which government comes into power, but that's an obvious thing to say for me. now what you do have to say is the,
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we were talking about the fall, right? and policies that has members under surveillance by the intelligence so far as he's, those people are not impala quite yet. so far, the german bonus talk consist of the majority of policies has a very clear pro. europe stands for conservatives, the social democrats, the free democrats, the left policy where they disagree with the left policy is nato weapon supplies all of these issues. but overall, it's a very outward oriented um bonus tag that it says, okay, we can't do masses by ourselves. and we are at the call of europe. i mean, we have a board is with 9 european countries, right? so we can't ignore our neighbors. but, and will it affect the relations? yeah, so when you look at and foreign policy issues and such a support of ukraine, you know, will a conservative government potentially give view,
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train the go for those rockets that president zalinski. and keith has been asking for where he can target military infrastructure on russian territory. the site is something that was a red line full of shots. he said so many times, very, very briefly, we have one minute left, but it will change somewhat a, let's say see the, you let the government change in here. you can only, i, the city you largely represented in the south, a very energy hungry part of the country where a lot of manufacturing is done. but i'm going to really be looking for any signals about a change your relationship with china. that has been a question mark over this coalition. government words like the risking decoupling. real to germany. is that a goal for a few years about trying to manage its investments in china, where it's manufacturing and trade relationship. so that's what i'm going to be looking for, but as it stands right now, to be seen lots more questions here in the chat, i'm afraid we have to leave it here many,
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tango electric vehicles are taking over. well, think again, internal combustion engines, employees to make a roaring combat. so these are still grabbing the headlines. so electric cars are having a moment to the demand for electric vehicles is booming worldwide sales of electric vehicles are projected to boot over the next few years. so why or drivers and carmakers doubling down on icy ease despite the climate crisis, the world is waking up and change is coming. what did you like it or not? fueled by a modern day gold rush, companies and government boards billions into the market, driven by grand promises that are clean or green or future. but now as the sales plateau, some of the industries biggest players are retreating from their vicious promises.
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europe's biggest comic or volkswagen is considering closing factories for the 1st time and it's history electric vehicles from china or cutting into its market share and high energy costs make manufacturing in germany uncompetitive because the, the big party that this industry has enjoyed and from which german manufacturers long benefited is over to and i don't think anyone ever thought that the ones in a sensory transformation of the industry would be a straight line. there will be peaks and troughs, but it's not just a german problem. other european carmakers pay similar headaches, like reno numbers. the truth is, we are not yet on the right trajectory to achieve 100 percent electric cars by 2035 . if customers don't follow us, we're all responsible. we need to cut costs. the global use share
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in terms of sales, slowing down and customer adoption rate, not as high as expected just a few years ago. the results forward is axing its electric 3 ro, s u, v, and domain a next gen pickup plus it's committing to future gas and diesel models, citing a lack of consumer interest and fully electric cars for a sudden shift to cast doubt on the sustainability and the immediacy of the revolution are we witnessing a retreat from overly optimistic promises? is the widespread adoption of electric cars, truly feasible, or a dream too far? the welcome to the electric car, the future spot where the gasoline producers of america i
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can go very, very switching to ease aims to cut carbon footprints, reduce reliance on limited resources and fight the climate crisis. the vision was clear, electric vehicles would be the, the ultimate solution to our environmental loans. in greenville was born out of this necessity to protect tele plants, take the electric vehicles section. it is a crucial industry for the clean economies with a huge potential in your major players like the us, china and the you have implemented laws and incentives to boost tv adoption aiming to phase out. i see vehicles by 2035. but this transformation isn't merely a technological shift. it's a complex dance involving geo politics, economics and infrastructure. electric utility has
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a very high probability to become the main form for boston. and if you miss this window of opportunity, all the up by sticking too much on the old, then that might be coming next, the central problem, even for the lock, for the launch to himself, the industry, the cds looked to have a bright future worldwide sales just kept growing until 2024, when they started to stagnate, plug in hybrids. and dicey e saw a resurgence. big car brands read the writing on the wall and began walking back there and vicious as targets in germany knew the registrations are set to fall for the 1st time by just under 14 percent and 2024. that's mainly because subsidies and tax breaks were rolled back. these play
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a direct role in e v adoption the, the reason the decline in e b could safe say is months over months. certainly has been influenced by the main site, just the reduction of governments. it's it easy, many markets because they made the products very attractive. not only from the house because the last from a psychological effect in the old quote and dodge hundreds of emails in europe or in germany. we're seeing that plans for eaves are being scaled back or slowed down repeatedly. so the order, of course, this is also related to the current slow down in sales. since you don't want on sold cars standing around on your parking lot, this one listed as much as if i put the condition of divorce j shifting to ease isn't as straightforward as it seemed. there are 2 major hurdles for easy adoption . the prices are, are a little bit high for e, v,
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e's in and people are choosing to deal with that in the marketplace. you know, they're choosing other, you know, other solution. the product offerings are out stripping the t v, charging infrastructure available. but it's not all doom and gloom projections, suggested eas could make up 50 percent of global passenger cars, sales by 2035 and 70 percent. by 2040. however, i see vehicles won't disappear overnight. they're long vice cycles means they'll be on the roads for decades to come. while the likes of canada, south korea, in the us sit and fishes targets to phase out ice ease. the us in china, i have yet to commit to specific timelines. the despite initiatives like to buy it and administrations funding for the infrastructure. the reality is that
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building the systems takes time in europe. countries like germany into u. k, have modified their the mandates due to political changes highlighting the complexities of this transition. the of the china, on the other hand, is aggressively pushing for e v adoption leveraging it's huge manufacturing capacities and state assistance as a situation in china. s great deal east. great influence intervals commer because it's a demonstrate that on one hand, for how many applications electric vehicles um now upfront a ton of the for consumers, for legacy carmakers jeep chinese eves had been a wakeup call in the us and europe, governments are sending off chinese in boards with terrorists, but in these 2 mass markets, that's making affordable, leaves less affordable,
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putting another dent any the adoption. can you look at china, which is the world's largest current market, and they've been going gang busters on these as well. and so you look at these 2 markets that are going to need these and then you look at the us market and say, well ok, if we're going to be competitive in that space, we need to be looking at tvs as well. the tariffs are seen as protecting traditional automakers who's these are big and prices most offer no entry level electric cars for under $20000.00 euro. unlike their chinese competitors, governments around the world are tightening fuel economy standards and setting ambitious targets for e. v adoption by 2031. automakers in the us most ensure their fleets average 50.4 miles per gallon. from the 49 miles per gallon required by 2026 the meeting. those goals will require that
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35 to 56 percent of the vehicle sold be fully electric by 2030 to put such policies change with each new administration. the or i think you could see some of those policies were reversed or change like the, the regulations could change, which might slow down the transition from ice tvs. and so the auto makers would be required to sell fewer eaves to offset the ice vehicles, the legacy automotive brand, such as mercedes, gm and volkswagen for struggling to break with old value. and we think their business model,
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they are developing new strategies and response to market dynamics and consumer preferences. that is where it's a good position to be in where your factory is, can be able to both be these, but also high tech, electrified combustion vehicles. so we have the flexibility in our production system, but we're also reading a next generation of vehicles. mercedes and v w. have put the brakes on their plans to be fully electric by 2030, reflecting a broader industry trend. the strategic pause allows them to further refine their i c. e models, while keeping an eye on consumer attitudes towards eaves. if you're a well run company, you try to match supply with demand overbuild leaves and there is in the supply for them. they sit down the lots and lots of reasons. you see the electric plug that speeds that would take us from point a to the future would be dictated by that
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speed between consumer infrastructure. volkswagen has earmarked tens of billions of bureaus for the development of internal combustion engines. this shift is driven by consumer hesitancy towards the bees, their high cost concerns overcharging, infrastructure and range anxiety. some models flocked to adding to vw as was our weaker sales in china. there the brand is seen as old school, entertainment and fund designs are lacking. so the car maker is slashing production that it's 1st on the plan to yvonne. where's the load started right now we've gone from being an important load started to an important size. my graph that spick all plants and sacks and he has produced electric cars exclusively since 2020 b. w invest in 1200000000 euros to convert the factory fixed. technically, we're in a position to build 360000 units a year currently or output is around $240000.00. that means one 3rd fewer
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cars are leaving the factory and entire shift has been eliminated. among the employees, concern is spreading. so brands are balancing their push for eaves with continued investment in i, c, e, and hybrid technology. still, if they missed the gold rush, that's the new e v market. they may never recover the, the world's biggest car company as adopted a cautious approach to be known for its hybrids. toyota only recently enter the market with a b, z for x which had one of the worst they used imaginable find the goal. and so it's a toyota, as many of the company see the hybrid as an interim or a transitory solution. but it doesn't look like toyota will be abandoning internal
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combustion engines any time soon. they see the future as being i c e plus electric, along with mazda in subaru, toyota calls this. a multi pathway approach focuses on refining. i see. so they can be used with electric motors in each used for carbon neutrality because toyota is a full line in global company. we cannot leave anybody behind. that is the determination we have in that sense we have this approach called multi passed away . and we have to take it toyota is focusing on maintaining a range of power, train options to meet varying consumer needs. for decades, toyota corolla has been one of the world's best selling cards as the these gain traction in developed countries, less industrialized regions still rely heavily on icy vehicles due to cost and
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infrastructure constrain. toyota has better pay, gone hybrid, and i see technology, an approach that works for them, at least for now. the trap. have you ever seen the to the point? strong opinions, clear positions, international perspective. donald trump has promised to put america 1st election as the next president of the united states means for germany. and does he now have free reign to leave europe behind as this week for the summer land onto the points? see the points 2 minutes where to
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d w the this is dw nears live in from berlin, a political storm here in germany, as the government collapses, transfer off schultz has fired his finance minister and promised a confidence vote in parliament after christmas. but the main opposition party is demanding elections asap. be saying, is there reason to wait? also coming up, i've said many times. you can't love your country. only when you with you as president your advice and promises a peaceful transfer of power in his 1st address. since the us presidential election .
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