as of the unreasonable of stuff, what is this nonsense? i want my son to the doctor to indicate it's time to to and then when generation flash, which now dw documentary the, this is the, the, the news african coming up on the program. what's one of the votes for change to model shows the door to the policy, the rules, since independence, the opposition's man takes office as looks one as a new president, his predecessor, or greeting you must facing, tells dw, it's important to respect democracy. even when you lose, by participating and subscribing to his ideals, goes with the sub games before and or whatever the outcome of donald trump is back. we discussed the state of us africa relations and what they

could look like over the next 4 years. and following reese and mass protest in kenya rights group, say government critics have been targeted in a wave of productions, disappearances, and even killings active as the ones the police held responsible the i'm told me. alrighty. well, welcome to the program. this is been a swift resolution and a smooth transition in both swan or after last week's elections. do my vocal is the new president. he defeated mcquaid c. msc who served one time while the entry elections also saw a line slide rejection of my ccs books on the democratic party which had govern since independence. in 1966, the election reinforced his books on his reputation as one of africa as more stable

democracies. but it also highlighted public consent over issues like economic mismanagement, the growing wealth gap and high unemployment is a. it's a handshake that will go down and bought swan is history will be sent to the mcquaid c my cc meeting his success to do my bulk of the habit educated human rights. slowly i was elected in a surprise when the outgoing president was the 1st to expect that it was time to move on to the move in 3 weeks to dublin in order to submit to the news as soon thank you very much on the

i accepted with subject with some trepidation normally is a big assignment and a size make monday for change in a tiny electorate. but the one that only has a 1000000 votes as but 80 percent of them turned out to cast their ballots. that translated into 36 out to 61 seats and then few z as in to boca center, left umbrella, democratic change in the military. i'm glad that we have the change and government donna. we've been unhappy because of unemployment. now we look forward to seeing what the new government will do for us. it was the time lucky football coach, deformed the scene, 2012 to unite the opposition,

its place to adult, to fold economic strategy, create wellpaid jobs, and then show a fat wealth distribution was a message that resonated among spot swan and his challenge now is to deliver all stuff at the same site as he's pre, does that. so we have with us now the immediate former president of what's, why that is excellence, e mcquaid, c. msc joining us now from how that all need to reflect on those elections. good to have you on the programs come reg is commiseration. you accepted the results, it might be the easiest thing to do in books on that, but that's not the case everywhere else. so what message do you hope this sends to other nations where democratic norms are not as well respected? and thank you very much and good a good evening. and the message just simple. the minute you submit yourself to an electronical contest and declared to be, i believe,

and democracy a petition of democracy know very well that it could turn out to be different from what you expected. and by participating and subscribing to his ideals goes with the settings before hand or whatever the outcome east. and that is big for that. i know that you also have an individual responsibility when you participate in leadership and elect oral context. you have that responsibility to make sure or that you lead and you need, right? you need fairly honestly and you make sure that nobody, no country is led into conflict. right. ok, was this result a surprise for you to not just to, to lose, but to lose by such a margin. yes, it was, it must have surprise to us. but you know,

when you come to think of it in terms all the promises and manifesto we put for what we reason we do believe in the manufacture, we put forward it was a plausible and achievable manifesto in our calculations. we thoughts and still do think that they made it best to am premises put to the voters by both parties. one that one and the one that made a position where exaggerated unachievable and unsustainable. and so with the effect of the demographic did with the younger people, with very high levels of unemployment and that setting, you know, frustration at not getting jobs and the appeasement that was brought about by the

opposition promises, including their conduct towards the elections way. it would seem, there was a lot of happiness or just people vote today and actually on a boat today um suggests that they attracted many more young people. because if you look at a total vote, as we go the 2nd 2nd highest number of voters. but without the best possible system, we suffered very badly and verify that the routing party now the good, the highest number of seats, the highest number of voters followed a number of seats by it up a bunch of the premises. much the same things suggest that they are piece of meat, particularly to do with money and benefits at what it can be more for them than they did for us. we certainly probably less in terms of the salary and other

benefits but, but i'm, i'm sure people would be also looking at your track record in, in, in the period you were in office. and i've heard people talking about a range of issues from dissatisfaction with your handling of the economy or what happened during the coven period, or somebody been saying, your tone deaf some even saying they felt they couldn't trust you. where do you think it went wrong? and in terms of your track read records over the past few years. i think a, you know, everybody's entitled to the opinion you in your examples of cause and treat it on the ledge, negative side, or what you're supposed to be my particular quote. there's an awful lot that can be said to. busy what i did that was positive, but you know, these are perception. so it's not a problem. i think what has happened is just what i said. people

were promised an awful lot and fair enough in that a topic athletics. a lot of negative people to say about myself and my body. it's not an issue of truthfulness. it's an issue. oh, what is believable? what you can see is that people are going to see for themselves and they can tell by what's in that pocket. they can tell you, you know, just by that the, the, that they need hardships in life, whether or not you're doing a good job. i know, and i said that, but you know, this is that really cheap, right? that's what i'm saying. those. what amplified the fact that you didn't have a job amplified? is it true? yes, it's true. i accepted. but given the fundamentals of what we had, we would rate the best that could be done. we failed in terms of balancing what you

did for the economy and keeping it sustained. we were doing well and reasonably, please about please me so. so to give us a stable, if you look at the peter of coverage, we were very responsible for going to the coverage. we did a lot of things. we saved it was lives. we fed people, we kind of did, we did everything according to the book that was in typically required. and we built back spots best and best. that's why we are mess so much. we were able to deliver so much in 3 years of the 5 years because we had made so much more money. right. but we have this thing like commodity driven economy. and don't you know, that was an issue at failure to diversify from a single commodity. he has been telling me, tell me who that busy buys it to vegas. tell me we did a lot to attempt to develop, but i can list the range of things that we did. and look,

i took over 2018. what happened with that was occasion all these other yes, it's not an easy task. it isn't with a dry country. we're a landlord to o what's around by the countries and we have many seasons that mitigate against either that reputation. right. but do we have democratic, we speak to principles, we believe in the rule of law and, and i'm, i'm very satisfied with medical at the present level. i'm very good fight. am i happy about my party and i'm really happy. we were honest, we were, we didn't do see the voters. we went out to put up a good fight. and yes, we will be to i a sceptics. and that's the responsible thing to do. because if you don't do that, what more are you asking? and there will be another chance, let us wish the new government, the very best for them. and we will take them to the test. we'll hold them accountable. we're going to do to be very informed, incisive

a position. and i really do wish the best for them, and i really wish we had proven wrong and it works. but i still am not convinced that the promises they meet can be delivered. and you talked about holding them accountable. what role will you pass? and then the play of what, what going forward, what, what do we see in the future if we as well, i'm still head of my party. i made it clear that the, when the next congress comes about and we have elected congress, which is in a yes or just the yeah, i will not present myself for the election to the dealership, but i remember, loyal, loyal, and committed member of the party. i will work with the party, i would help rebuild my party at 70. i'd sincerely, deeply be in his ideals it, but i will not seek election as head of the party or any significant office

position. okay, we're wish you all the best in those endeavors. what's on a former president? look with a must see. thank you very much for your time. thank you. have a good day. and there's also been change over in the us. donald trump will be returning to the white house after winning the presidential elections this week. during the last, trump administration, africa did not feature prominently. in fact, us africa policy was largely driven by washington is designed to counter the influence of china and russia. otherwise, the trump government maintained security corporation and attempted to turn the relationship mostly towards trade. let's get the thoughts of 10 you a lot tire policy advisor. joining us from durham, north carolina. could you have you on the program to in your line? now? africa didn't feature significantly during trumps last time. and to be fair, it hasn't been prominent either on the bite. and so should we expect more of the

same going forward policy wise? i think it really depends. i mean, terms, richard has been very clear. it's about making america great again. and then the question is, what extensive on a line with a gun entry? so of course, making that america great again, has looked at the america streets policy from industrial policy issues. and i think that's somewhere along the line. i guess the money comes up in and that's but squarely because of some of the trade relations with china. honestly, they think been trade agreements between african countries with some of the best punches on the us. and there's going to be uncle. so one key issue that of a go is that it expires next year. so what do you think we should expect in that regard? well, i mean that is the question that everyone is asking. now what can be fixed for me? it's from 5 restriction. i press ok or something. i mean, when he was president the last time he was mostly against the go i. he was somewhat supportive of it. but then in langley,

some of the recent development of the street police think will be good. there will be be over security position on the trade, the access that's of go up provided. i know that some countries, for example, like south africa, the next the various they've come from, i go or are maybe a good contact, because then i'll go, i type to some of the different policy objectives. for example, on my condition with the countries like rochelle, china, but i, since, because of the us interest of some of the countries they do not use a goal as much to perhaps they're not as concerned with the credit anyhow. get eyes on what is gonna happen with them pull off. how should african countries be positioning themselves at this point? us, one thing that we seem to know these of the trade was within the us, i'm fine. i may not be going anywhere anytime soon. so there's a question of house and service as far as the fly for some of the, the, by the change that kind of country to look into. i'm pretty good to participate in that. maybe it was pretty up to the us and what that really look like. so can you

start to increase the combined factor in of some products to that you're not as vulnerable to some of the tires that may be put in place um target and china and so that they don't affect epic i'm afraid of. but also when it comes to the foreign policy, recognizing that had the words change, and i mean, some people call it the most of my scheduled people call. you want people, i repeat, but then just understanding what that means. but also the days that you show the doc for our on the one integration, i mean trump, comments offices on defense which some of the other things are single believe which, which are spending a lot of politicians right on this very and my grandson sent me christian rhetoric to, well, i think i just want you to understand what that means for them. like the death for a, for people in africa that are looking to travel to study or to work. and then you know, preparing i had for some of the inevitable reality and yeah, see that is that some of the things that keep our eyes on just based on this conversation we've had, it seems to focused predominantly on trade. um,

but we do know that in the past it was, you know, security's um, security cooperation, red development aid. we've been hi, just uh, you know, things to do with like for example, governance and, and, and, and human rights. are we seeing that those will pretty much take a backseat and it will be mostly business as the trump registration. generally, of course has been very clear about the very domestically full cost to make the americans, the bulk restarting america position in the world. a couple of making sure that america partner has a pain, the fisher, and it's really a both making america. you know, i p. c briefing games to domestic issues with enough kind of countries may not be as much of a part of the on the left. the in directly related to some other trick police, different points objectives. ok to new la tile. we appreciate your insights. thank you for speaking to us. the pleasure. thank you.

the can you national human rights commission says it's investigated some 60 cases of extra diesel killings and $71.00 cases of abductions and enforced disappearances . since mass protest swept the country in june for weeks young canyons, the so called gen z, lead process over pull governance of events tend violent during their resulting police track down. which activists say has not ended, dw correspondent felix maureen has been following the story for us in i robi, as the money in whites, e. c. c, a being pointed into the truck, is benefits, want to say police have often detailed communicating without officially interesting you judging q or allowing him to contact and to be able to relate to the experience of the point is that no mccain's in the nearby explain to the rest, the new, so good bit tab, bundling

a cost and everyone is and in the car and did it really talk to you and did you feel so scared? experiencing that you can actually go and never be seen again. she's a photojournalist informing and political activist. it's this walk he sees that makes him what i get. but he's not the only one before being adapted. then what to be seen. again, all the bodies of phones broken into quite a ray or the river, or then what does it have a phone? so it's a skate experience with the family. actually. this is your government proposed tax increase prompted process in april and sometimes violent response from the police and the end of august president william, due to a promise to adoption, is that it will stop it in most areas of this region. if these upcoming any problem is that their child or their friend or their relative went to a demonstration, whether these lots deal with this. yeah, i never came,

but i want to know the names or because i would take some and decisive action. because as i talked to you today, i don't have a single name of somebody who has been affected or disappeared. but they can national commission on human rights. an official independence body has it recorded 7 to one that's on seems ghost gym protest. head of the can see child development, guess a said it was having a shilling effect on local defense. bulls who have been quite vocal and speaking on, you know, issues they are likely to going to be, you know, for fear of their lives. and there must be guarantees that when issues are raised, questioning, you know, accountability, questioning, transparency. there must be a way we protect both ways. those voices, a number of european diplomatic missions in a row be including dose of gemini,

they, you k, last month wrote an open letter saying we not our consent of own going protest off . i'd be tell you address and enforce the disappearances. we not presidential does come between the 2 incidents would not happen under his watch. and that all the individuals involved will be held accountable. we asked the police savvy and the independent policy of i say to a 3 d for comments for this report, but didn't receive virus points. waiting for this morning. he said he'll continue if he's a position on the walk in the country where this sort of little, where are they? if i news uh, to the justly human country, i less corrupt the country a country every sunday because chance in life. he says that his vision is what the directions, the taps on his phone. and if he has of use for me to speak to the face of the on the president of the law society of kenya, she joins us from nairobi. good to have you on the program face now,

can you tell us more about what's going on with these cases of these abductions, most of these people disappearing without a tray. so they actually being charged with something specific? well, we have pieces that people have disappeared and has not been able to find that. and if we're still making calls and trying to follow up, because yeah, some people that's despite the family members the visiting the different police stations, we've not been able to trace them. and so it's, it's just that to me, illustration of what people get to come there have been people we've, we've reported have died in the, in, in these incidents of disappearances. have, has there been any sort of legal recourse or ends as for their families? and that's the sat this thing, what's happening in our country because we've seen people have been being short.

however, the trajectory from what happened in the killings into and then i stopped with the next slide was the 1st identity to be killed in doing this. demonstrations was that the, the booklets is picked up by a police officers who don't identify themselves when they go to the government. the main government to fire was most people that was treating most gosh with wounds all the bullets once they will budget to do the same. they have been picked up. and so you cannot prosecute without that, but listing evidence to coordinate to the bullets to the shooter. so that's has been the greatest a problem. and 2nd to the question, we're going to me be sure we have been to, in, of the independent policing oversight authority that was set up to investigate this through police officers who abused their powers. however, people have been skipped to even present themselves to the evidence. because of

their eyes and pieces, little objections, i don't know if i mean, yeah, that's what they're not going to come up to the evidence that to do to also be forcefully disappeared. right. i was also going to ask you about that sort of the hope of any accountability through these watch dogs, like, uh, like, uh, i boy, you mentioned, but uh, onto a, a related issue. and that's being the concerns raised the box, the surveillance techniques, the government is using to monitor defense as is this something you're challenging legally, or planning to challenge legally as well? they're planning to challenge the attempts to they want to call the me to the tell clothes and the aim that to him to see that they want to know how much people electronics opting with. but the new busy aim is to ensure that the integrates the relax because of some of the biggest telecom companies and now facing the will suits because shed in people's private data that i'm doing the generally

demonstrations of sucking, big tell cause have been at the forefront being sanctioned by members of the public as being the ones that helped um the government identify the agencies who were at that to conduct police is what do you think this whole scenario says about the state of expression and democracy and, and just people's general ability to to speak of about what's going on in, in, in society and in government. and can you just just briefly for us to go to an extent that noted phonology is being used to them and attempts to stay for the rights of people that likes to be kids to assembly to share that with us because the agencies have shown that you can organize and call the needs people up on physical spaces. so we feel this is a heightened, we to select street, those jim

a thief, a fort for below, for lights that we have under the constitution. and we will continue to fight through the time that we will know to ensure that that's right is more than taking that we face of gamble of the law society. okay, thank you for speaking to us. thank you and thank you for being with us. that's why we'll leave it to you. next time the

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