should support to implement at least parts of his agenda before a confidence votes to determine his political face. but that's a favor. his rivals across the aisle are not willing to do. they want elections and they want them. now i'm to confer the chamberlain and this is the day the i already decided that they should be new elections as soon as possible. so the chancellor was unable to give me a plausible explanation as to why he would only call afloat of confidence in 2 months time for tones fogging that we should discuss the date as calmly as possible . it's his responsibility to ensure that we can get a new government quickly. i think we will quickly find a good solution for everyone. also on

the day. so i plan on taking those guy on the leader of the opposition in bella. rose tells me how the incoming trump administration can help her costs. so what we need uh from dish the support to those and democratic forces is the pressure one more question because presume because it's the data and the, you know, one of the task of the critical just to fight with the data. welcome to the show. pressure is mounting on germany's chancellor or la shots to hold snap elections. his coalition government collapsed this week after he fired a talk minister. now around is broken now between shoals of social, dumb, across one to oppose. next march and the opposition say the you who hope to profit from a much earlier valid school starts as in budapest today, meeting with other usually this back home, the discussion about new elections is intensifying. so it's his plan was full vote in march holding the collapse of his government coalition earlier this week. but

that's too late. according to 65 percent of the tenants in berlin, opposition the then tense, the helpful fluidly smith has also been pushing for the elections as an early a vote of confidence. but the chancellor that will trigger them. so it's still in. budapest has now stated his open to discuss the election date in parliament next week. this is the, it would be good if we could now reach an agreement in the bonus tag among the democratic parliamentary groups on which laws can still be passed this year. disagreement should then also be able to answer the question of the right time to call a vote of confidence in the bonus tag. also with regard to the possible new election date in hendrick, often represent lifetime in such as p d is pulling a 3rd place far off behind the conservative cd u. c. s u and behind the far right. if the it's possible the chancellor had hope to wait until march to impact favor with lotus. but that would have meant nearly 5

months as a minority government that would not be able to post any legislation without deposition support, including. now this crisis has been a long time calling has difference is over economic policy between the chancellor and his now former finance minister grew until they became unsustainable. and that is something i want to talk about to call them as an author of both guy moonshower, his co founder and director of your intelligence, which provides news and analysis from the you and your a zone as new book is called comport the end of the german miracle, it looks at germany's economic model. and what he says is germany's decline. the book came out this week just one day after the german coalition fell apart. welcome to the day mister minge out for some congratulations on the truly impeccable timing of the release of your book. were you surprised at all to see the governing coalition fall apart? i was actually surprised, stuckey surprised that it would fall apart on the date of bending book was published. that was standing not intended,

but it certainly i have expected it to last because i do not think that the st pods are doing themselves any phases uh from you know, technical photos. it was the one of you, the best move best buy out against, uh, both against linds month against charles. and especially for lyndon. i think i think there is not enough much of an upside for him. i just thought to you, in your opinion, what were the key factors that got the country here? this is done a badge, a long time. i think people was the really good economy is by looking at you the piece that goes and you know, just gdp a sort of held up because right, good in, especially in the peer from 2005, 2015 and more recently, you know, it's, it's been sort of stuck maintaining a bit, and it's only sort of in the last 2 years, the people, people still notice that something wasn't, wasn't going right. that was the russian gas situation that was to been done make the supply chain problems. and you know, i was looking deeper into this and covering the story for very long time,

and i've seen so many becoming progressively more tied to 20 century technologies, taking not very great interest and vishal industries. we've seen the kind of st. how's it going from, you know, global leadership to, you know, being a technological lego to in the new field of electric vehicles. receive a general watch the channels, you know, hosted us each of us digital. and in general, i see this in schools at universities, but, but especially income and in the united kingdom or in the us. you know, the life is modest advantages and germany and invest has become a problem. now that it's becoming a commercial, a commercial issue. we don't think you most of us in my book, i was looking at the john financial sense of a still very much space on spot customer, mrs. thumbs on, you know, funding funding, medium sized companies, mostly in old technology. the sexes that isn't the capital markets,

funding phone you sectors and i think what, what's happening, especially now with all the geo political ships, the, the election of trump. but it goes by the, you know, the, we, we have to ukraine's after ukraine bowl. we have a great geo political realignment. the german model of a spain must, depending on that's not happening because depending on expos, on industrial exports, in particular, it was actually, depending on the subject, is not just on that slow, but i'm generating stuff. this is, which is a very dangerous strategy because if you're making a so dependent on, on stop loses, you'll, you'll reduce the degrees of freedom in your geo products a collection. so, so a lot of things have been prior to jump in there, but, but, so what you're saying is that germany needs, in general shift in its economic model. how could that be changed? it can be achieved by both because, you know, i'm not saying that piece of drums of and sort of what it's board is doing. but it's, it's an open up to you and just say that you have not defined itself as an industrial

economy. and i think that has been a mistake by 2 successive government because it's not just one political party to define germany as, as industry, jeremy is a great country for large companies. it's not a great company for smoke. it's not, it's wait. some people, companies that have no legal departments that don't focus on regulation, but it's a great company for, for large companies. or, i mean has a lot of loss companies. the system needs to open up to diversification that the industries can view under printers and to make life easier for them and also to allow funding for those for those sectors. a lot of money into, i mean, look at the, the government's policy and industrial subsidies. as a lot of the money runs into a few industries, especially send me come back to us and the whole idea behind to send me content, semi contract to subsidies, was to secure the supply chain of the cons. so this is all about a lot of the money,

a lot of the structures of designs to facilitate live for the last, you know, in this case, the last car companies such as the, the, the general environment for what you saw for smaller companies. it is not nearly as great as, as it is for the last. so can you start to say, so that's, that's what i want. to what extent would you say the current crisis is related to what you're just pointing out of the con prizes this ultimately? um, is it based on an economy that's not what uh, the, the, if the economy has rebounded, is a last year as people have expected this year. you know, the, that would have been more money available for the government to purchase its difficulties. but in economy that doesn't grow, cannot, cannot afford this. and that's what they have to make sacrifices. it is not possible for me to fulfill the extremes. trips of the debt break, the, the high social funding that this government has accepted, plus the increase in defense spending, the shows a promise in is through, you know,

speech on the poker, change the sites and brenda that he, that he espouses strong so strongly. so there is a, a, a, a, a conflict of interest that has now, uh, that is actually not come to the surface of this political process is very much related to this. yeah, it's a germany is this week, especially if not the only country facing change. donald trump was moving back into the white house in january. how do you think his economic policies will impact or me, especially at those current impact or? yeah, just it's always hard to predict what things don't attempt to do, but he seems better good that this stuff and he so you know, he has an agenda. he not also has. the majority is this is also different from last time. he has a supreme court that is because that is republican, old or conservative. he has a majority in the senate. the house is still not decided yet, but it looks like the the, the house of representatives spoke. also have a republican leadership team. if that is the case, and you know, at the moment it's leaning that that direction would be,

i'm not sure. but if that was the case, then he would have, he would govern with a complete majority. and one of the things he will do is impulse as he s e s e s b as he's threatened to indicate the tire people in prose terrace on a 20 percent terrace for germany at a time like this would be an absolute ca. uh, so they would use german companies to assess more production to the united states business. the i 20 percent gap. it's hot, it's hot to a bridge on germany. so this will have, that will be more an investment spectrum companies in the united states to circumvent these terrorists. and it will become a excitement which is going to be much. how does the drum you will be forced to make those things that i 5 suggest it's almost almost because it's, it's forced on them by the outside. well, the system is not sustainable in, in it's not just donald trump is not like it will end depend on it from lee's office and for this. yeah, this is a very persistent change. the republic and the,

the, the trump isn't, isn't just a phenomena. showtime is phenomenal. this is very much a, a sort of an app. this is the real f o change that is happening. we'll have to leave it there that was walked on when shells your intelligence and other other recently published book coupled many thanks. thank you. after the election in the united states, russia as president vladimir putin says he is ready to discuss ukraine with donald trump. kremlin spokesman and demetrius pest golf said that's doesn't mean for knows, willing to change his demands. though he also refused to confirm whether a north korean troops are currently fighting against the frame of the summit in budapest, trump, sanchez, some porter in the you. hum, gary in president victor all on for data at the trump administration, would stop providing support of keys and science against russia i owe like that is one of the reasons the us election results were filed so closely across eastern

europe, solano, to handle sky. as the leader of the opposition and believers where she worked in 2020, ran against authoritarian leader, alexander lucas angle. she now lives in self imposed exile in lithuania and joins us today. here in the studio. i'm thinking, okay, i thank you so much for coming into the studio and joining us here on dw, now the current you, as president, was very clear in his support for the bell of root in people's fight for democracy and human rights. what do you expect from a 2nd, donald trump term? no, i remember having to is a 20 he, uh, on the he's in ms. freshman. the 1st not just being forced against to cushion because the resume of to the power has been seized by him. and the look now the un grisly to trump don't have transfer with the presidency because of he had to respect choice of the american people. you know, it's such a luxury, you know, no to know who you will be. go next president because in dealers is like a to rile, uh no, no, no, no directions. so and of course v as in free, closest for you. uh,

they'll have to work with the new administration. we have showed many the corrections during his election campaign, but now we have to see with extra spiel bits. but they want to believe that the american people who influence actually in the full so for the presidents because they are following the country, they will stand strong before a full democracy. they will stand with those who fight for them for the change of changes. and they will conduct principles and values based policy, but not the business or interest based fullest. i want to quote your message of congratulation to donald trump. you said you want to continue and enhance or cooperation with the west to bring freedom to bella. ruth, what do you hope that cooperation will look like? you know, for this for years and the strength of japan. so should be, have been in june bipartisan support in uh, from the usa. so uh,

what we need uh from dish the support to those send them a credit forces is the pressure one more question because the resume because if the data and the, you know, one of the task of them critical to is to fight with the data. so the functions for human rest of uses for teachers and billers, and the assistance of people and also printing of the, for 3 of us to accountability. so these are directions we are working on. and of course, the you know, treats and below we're, since we'll head to sleep, delivers the course of repression, single, honestly, providing them via the refugee when assessed right now. a little concerned go has responded to the results in the united states with flattery. he called donald trump a powerhouse and a bulldozer and even so as i said, he would recommend him for a nobel peace prize if he brought the war in ukraine to and, and how concerned are you about this kind of praise, maybe winning donald trump over you know, getting him on his side. i looked at

a sure that's the promptly and wish him self knows about the situation in the builders at the moment is a crazy old for him. maybe he doesn't remember who is the question good tool. so uh, of course, you know, cuz i'm going to show that the cut off, you know, he'll be on the side or foot dictate this. hopefully, he will not be a but, you know, in advance you decide that, you know, to, you know, send such a pleasant message. but it's still a want to say that i really believe in the american people who are not the, this, this is democracy. it's not the one person, some dictator, you know, who is conducting from forces people and people support and bureaus, people do say supports in ukraine and the, hopefully the most allow still assistance to the premiums. let's look at the situation in ukraine because donald trump is run on a platform saying that he would end the war and ukraine in a matter of 24 hours after he returned to office. it's wildly believed that that

would be a piece on russia's terms, at least partially. what would that mean for the region? it's the importance uh, for all done for the quote, including you, they are say to provide everything possible for you. praying is for them to be in the war for them to be a reading this of this 5 because it's not just a korea, so we'll just fight them for the territory. it's not like a local war is fight against dictatorship. and if the critic world in a democratic lead us will show the weakness or they will show that they who can make deals with the terrorists, you know, with the tyrants. so what will be the response of the society with them for the society? so not only build rosalee cream on the threats or for the date the ship or the return these and it's the whole world. so now uh, the existence of respects democracy and the critical test to show that we have to

be have instruments, you know, to punish you, and to show that the strong. so now we have weights in from, from powerful lead us into your say in germany, to show that the dictates us we will get pieced victor, dictate us, we will be on the 4th. and if that doesn't happen, if case in ukraine, happens on russia's terms, do you think that will lead to, to vladimir putin being emboldened and maybe trying to grab more land saves control and other parts of the region? absolutely, i think that's, you know, tearing the ease like cancer until you caught the last sale of eat, it will be a pro then you know, it, board us and the, i'm always just tell him to all we were kind of friends, a small to still to run the now they will know to your doors will take going to do them. is it? if we're looking at this, this more than maybe widening or, or you know,

lot of input in this aspirations growing. do you think that's a realistic prospect given how the war has been conducted until now? you know, tens of thousands of soldiers of di, there is growing discontent within russia as well. about this conflict. or do you think there is a way that maybe also civil society and russia would then say, okay, this is enough or, or is the propaganda machine such that, that a lot of your equipment can have this way either way, because it's up to russian people to decide what they want in russia, but the now it's very important to help those who have consensus in regard to more for so we'll talk, pressing the course in villarille's builders and society. we want to retain builders into europe. you wouldn't want the critic future for billers the same about to create new. so help those who know what they want. and believe me changes in billing rules can spark changes and russia. so don't add to estimate the meaning

or for free democratic and independent builders in this fight against google to run it. i think you mentioned a free democratic fellow roost there are elections scheduled in belarus for next january. how big are your hopes for, for a possibility of change even ever so slightly. ok wouldn't use the would election regarding the roof is the invitation is, foss is a didn't know re to all circus, but north elections. it goes in the country with now will the toner to need to ruins with civil society is the has to fleece know the country where people i have to fight on the ground with the course of the level refreshments. with all the political openings for in prisons or in exile, it's like a political doors. and now it looks like a location because preparing for meals restoration for like the right events most for so called elections. so this is resolved and will change anything for blower,

since it will not make what cushion can legitimation again, if you will send the page of our history. and of course, i know, encourage older them credit constitutional notes recognize the selections, and i will read the fuel this consensus about distribution. nobody's going to say ok, you know what question, what the point is himself. so he'll return to business as usual. no, it will not happen. and you say it's going to be a sterile event. do you just paint a picture for us? what is this election or pseudo election going to look like us? oh, you know, people who will be forced to come to full of stations, you know, to like make the choice what, what is going to count. the people will count voices. they will just draw the number one cushion needs to true. and this is, you know, and i don't think the people this time you'll go to the streets, you know, to, and protect a, you know,

independence because they level or for freshness and billers. it's awful. you can see realists on the streets. now you can see, you know, of vocal blurs since because every day in building 15 spencer people are being detained every day without weekends and i received called before so called directions. this region intensified refreshments because they are afraid of people . they still behaved as if hundreds of thousands of standing of in front of fort lucas now because palace now because of their refrigerator and the, you know, even having subjects to royal situation at the moment. you know, they, they still detain people because they're afraid. it is precisely that refreshing that forced you into exile. can you explain what your work in lithuania looks like now? you know, for, for us we managed to keep unity of democratic forces. you managed to keep the connection between those who fled the content of these half

a 1000000 of people. and those who endorse the importance of communication and coordination with the on the ground movements in the country. they are providing us and this or information, the information, how version is the comment and functions or how there were some enterprises at helping a russian for. they are buying micra shapes, you know, doing just the difference news for stop and the basis of this information theory say, and the erupt in union and force and functions. one long cushion cus presume, also the build ultimate and the citizens of why it's so important that people know who, how view are organized. also the now for my last relationship with the democratic world, we have strategic dialect with the usa. the now pots of the console funeral, we have wonderful relationship with governmental for them for the congress. and they don't recognize what question customers relate, recognize us as representatives of builders and people. so we strengthen an agency

or democratic forces and the v a will can be desperate that play a huge role via what can be different and yours and civil society of different countries. the managed to read this kava dealers for um, for democratic world. and we manage to explain what's why it's so important to divide between what question customers distinguish between the question. because the resume and there were some people, polish regime, a support people can give more assistance to me. the more assistance to civil society because of the needs and it just will continue, is really very exhaust and fight against brutal dictatorship and like, you know, the eastern berlin needed the western building. us now the need this assistance from german, they from all the european union, just to follow 5 going on there. is your living in the exile, not everybody can leave your husband is in prison, maria, collecting a cover as also and present. so are many other political opponents to lucas jenko?

do you know how your husband, you have a picture of him there with you? do you know how he's doing to now, maria's doing so. first of all, i want to remind that's the moment more than 1400 political prisoners and girls, and this number is true. and every day a menu of political prisoners kept incommunicado. it's in you what's uh for us is when a person that escaped him for his elation, i don't know about my husband for 600. this already known use the same about money . equity isn't a who has special connection with. so germany control decision wants to persuade our beleive it's our friends behind the boss that the world has forgotten about, you know, but a kiss at your sacrifice was in vain. and his soul, you know, difficult not to know if your husband is a life, but we have continued this fight. we have no choice. but in this fight we need to live. we will not be able to know being alone the same as the previous needs. the

whole support of the critical course be important for uh, for, you know, for, for, for us to beautiful, secure, to have the full region. so simple, additional favorite, powerful contract to be with us on this difficult, but not to handle scale. the leader of the below ruzen opposition and powerful voice for democracy and human rights on the country. thank you so much for taking the time today and all the best to you and that's our time. but make sure to stay informed, to engage and stay in time so you can follow our team on social media. now though, from the entire team here on the day, thank you so much for spending parts of your day with us by the

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