to i asked a little surprised hi, irish and i am ready to dive into the hands of human to do you have you have a window to talk to me before you go to the spot on the on expected side to side. enjoy this as the domain is now for the coming up on the program. what's one of the votes for change to my vocal shows the door to the policy, the rules, since independence. the opposition's man takes office as looks one as a new president, his predecessor with the my stacy tells dw, it's important to respect democracy. even when you lose, by participating and subscribing to his ideals, goes with the a septics before and or whatever the outcome of donald trump is back. we discussed the state of us africa relations and what they

could look like over the next 4 years. and following reese and mass protest and kenya writes group, say government critics have been targeted in a wave of productions, disappearances, and even killings active as one police held responsible. the i've told me all logical welcome to the program. it's been a swift resolution and a smooth transition in both swan or after last week's elections. do mobile go? is the new president? he defeated mcquaid the msc who served one time while the entry elections also. so a line slide rejection of my ccs, botswana, a democratic party which had govern since independence in 1966, the election reinforced his books on his reputation as one of africa as more stable

democracies. but it also highlighted public consent over issues like economic mismanagement. the growing wealth gap and high unemployment is a it's a handshake that will go down in books. one is history book, which see my cc meeting, his success to do my bulk of the habit educated human rights. slowly i was elected in a surprise when the outgoing president was the 1st to accept that it was time to move on to the movement. very dublin in order to submit to the news. thank you very much. i'm most accepted

with subject with some trepidation normally is a big assignment and a size make monday for change in a tiny electorate. what's one not only has a 1000000 votes as but 80 percent of them turned out to cast their ballots. that translated into 36 out of 61 seats and then c, u z as in to boca center, left umbrella, democratic change in the when to to get the military. i'm glad that we have the change in government. and we were unhappy because of unemployment. now we look forward to seeing what the new government will do for us. it was the time lucky football coach, deformed the scene, 2012 to unite the opposition. it's pledged to adult to fold economic strategy creat

wellpaid jobs and then show a fat wealth distribution with a message that resonated among spot swan and his challenge now is to deliver all stuff at the same site as he's pre does that. so we have with us now the immediate former president of what's one isaacson mc mcquaid c. msc joining us now from how they're on need to reflect on those elections. good to have you on the programs come reg is commiseration. you accepted the results, it might be the easiest thing to do in books on that, but that's not the case everywhere else. so what message do you hope this sends to other nations where democratic norms are not as well respected? and thank you very much and good a good evening. um the message of simple the minute you submit yourself to an electronical contest and declared to be, i believe,

and democracy a petition of democracy know very well that it could turn out to be different from what you expected. and by participating and subscribing to his ideals goes with the settings before hand or whatever the outcome is. and that is big for that. i know that you also have an individual responsibility when you participate in leadership and elect oral context. you have that responsibility to make sure or that you need and you need, right? you need fairly honestly and you make sure that nobody, no country is led into conflict. right. okay. was this result a surprise for you to not just to, to lose, but to lose by such a margin? yes, it was, it must have surprise to us. but you know,

when you come to think of it in terms all the promises and manifesto we put forward, we reason we do believe in the manufacture we put forward it was a plausible and achievable manifesto in our calculations. we thoughts and still do think that they made it best to am premises put to the voters by both parties. one that one and the one that made a position where exaggerated achievable and unsustainable. and so we've the effect of the demographic did with the younger people, with very high levels of unemployment. and that setting, you know, frustration not giving jobs and the appeasement that was brought about by the

opposition promises, including their conduct towards the elections way. it would seem, there was a lot of happiness or just people vote today and actually on a enrolled today suggests that they attracted many more young people. because if you look at a total vote, as we go the 2nd, 2nd highest number of voters. but without the best possible system, we suffered very badly and verify that the routing party now the good, the highest number of seats, the highest number of voters followed a number of seats by an officer. bunch of the premises much the same things, suggest that they a piece of meat, particularly to do with money and benefits at what it can be more for them than they did for us. we certainly probably is less in terms of the salary and other

benefits but, but i'm, i'm show people would be also looking at your track record in, in, in the period you were in office. and i've heard people talking about a range of issues from dissatisfaction with your handling of the economy or what happened during the coven period, or somebody been saying, your tone deaf some even saying they felt they couldn't trust you. where do you think it went wrong? and in terms of your track read records over the past few years. i think uh, you know, everybody's entitled to the opinion you in your examples of cause entreated on the ledge, negative side or what is supposed to be my particular quote. there's an awful lot that can be said about what i did that was positive, but you know, these are perceptions. so it's not a problem. i think what has happened is just what i said. people

were promised an awful lot and fair enough in that a topic that's 76, a lot of negative fuses said about myself and my body. it's not an issue of truthfulness. it's an issue. oh, what is believable? what you're actually can see is that people are going to see for themselves and they can tell by what's in their pockets they can tell. do you know, just by that the, the, that they need, hardships and life, whether or not you're doing a good job. i know, and i said that, but you know, this is that really cheap, right? that's what i'm saying. those. what amplified the fact that you do never jump amplified? is it true? yes, it's true. i sent it. but given the fundamentals of what we had, we would rate the best that could be done. we failed in terms of balancing what you

did for the economy and keeping it sustained. we were doing well and reasonably, please about please me so, so it can give us a stable if you look at the peter of coverage book, we were very responsible for going to the corporate. we did a lot of things. we saved it was lives. we've had people, we've got a good, we did everything according to the book that was and typically required. and we build back fast, this and best. that's why we are mess so much. we were able to deliver so much in 3 years over 5 years because we had made so much more money. right. but we have this thing like commodity driven economy. and don't you say that was an issue at failure to diversify from a single commodity? yes, but tell me, tell me who diversity buys it to vegas. tell me we did a lot to attempt to develop, but i can lift the range of these. but redid and look,

i took all of my 2018. what happened with that is occasion all these other yes, it's not an easy task. it isn't with a dry country where a landlord to, oh, what's the route by the countries? and we have many seems that mitigate against either that verification. right? but we had democratic, we stick to principles, we believe in the rule of law and, and i'm very satisfied with medical at the present level. i'm very good, but i'm happy about my party and i'm really happy. we were honest, we were, we didn't do see the voters. we went out or put up a good fight. and yes, we will be to i a sceptics. and that's the responsible thing to do. because if you don't do that, what more are you asking? and there will be another job, let us wish the new government, the very best for them. and we will put them to the test will hold them accountable . we're going to do to be very informed, incisive

a position. and i really do wish the best for them, and i really wish we had proven wrong and it works. but i still am not convinced that the problem is, is they meet, can be delivered. and you talked about holding them accountable. what role will you pass in any play of what, what going forward, what, what do we see in the future if we as well, i'm still head of my party. i made it clear that the, when the next congress comes about. and we have elected congress, which is in the yes or just the yeah, i will not present myself. busy for the election to the leadership, but i remember loyal, loyal, and committed member of the party, i will work with the party. i will help rebuild my party at 70. i'd sincerely, deeply believe in his ideals it, but i will not seek election as head of the party or any significant office

position. okay, we're wish you all the best in those endeavors, but it's on a former president. look at the msc. thank you very much for your time. thank you. have a good time. and there's also been change over in the us. donald trump will be returning to the white house after winning the presidential elections this week. during the last, trump administration, africa did not feature prominently. in fact, us africa policy was largely driven by washington is designed to counter the influence of china and russia. otherwise, the trump government maintained security corporation and attempted to turn the relationship mostly towards trade. let's get the thoughts of tenure allow tile policy advisor joining us from durham, north carolina. good to have you on the program tenure line. now, africa didn't feature significantly during trumps last time. and to be fair, it hasn't been prominent either on the bite. and so should we expect more of the

same going forward policy wise? i think it really depends. i mean, terms, richard has been very clear. it's about making america great again. and then the question is, what extensive on a line with the gun entry? so of course, making that america great again, has looked at the market street policy from industrial police the issue. and i think that somewhere along the line are going to be up in, in that, but squarely because of some of the trade relations with china on a specific been trade agreement between african countries are some of the best punches on the us. and there shouldn't be uncle. so one key issue that of a go is that it expires next year. so what do you think we should expect in that regard? well, i mean that is the question that everyone is asking. now what can we expect from it, from 5 ministration upfront or something? i mean, when he was president the last time he was mostly against the goal i, he was somewhat supportive of it. but then in langley,

some of the recent development of the street police think will be a good bit of a security position on the trip access. that's a go up provided. and i know that some countries, for example, like south africa, been actually various the company from, i'll go or maybe it'd be sometime because then i'll go, i type to some of the different policy objectives, for example, on my condition with countries like rochelle, china, but i since because of the you had interest open some of the countries they do not use a goal as much the, perhaps they're not as concerned with the credit. if need to have your eyes on what is gonna happen with the block. how should african countries be positioning themselves at this point? the one thing that we seem to know because of the trade was within the us, i'm fine, i may not be going anywhere anytime soon. so there's a question of health and service as far as the apply for some of the, the value change that's kind of want you to look into. i'm afraid to participate in . maybe it was predict the us and what that really looks like. so can you start to

increase the combined factor in of some products that you're not as vulnerable to some of the tires that may be put in place um, targets in china and so that they don't effect, i think i'm afraid of. but also when it comes to the foreign policy, recognizing that had the words changed, and i mean, some people call it the most of my 3rd world. people call these more people, i repeat, but then just understanding what that means. but also the days that you show the die for our on the one integration, i mean, trump, companies offices on to benchmark some of the other things are think globally which, which has been a little politicians right on this very and my grand, so i'm say me christian rhetoric so, well, i think i just want you to understand what that means for them by putting that down for a, for people in africa that are looking to travel to study or to work. and then you know, preparing i had for some of the inevitable realities and yeah, see that is that some of the things that keep our eyes on just based on this conversation we've had, it seems to focused predominantly on trade. um,

but we do know that in the past those, you know, securities um security cooperation, red development aid. we've been hi, just uh, you know, things to do is like for example, governance and, and, and, and human rights. are we seeing that those will pretty much take a backseat and it will be mostly business as the trumpet decision. generally, of course has been very clear about the very domestically full cost. you make the american sample restarting america's position in the wall of the simple making sure that america partner has a pain, the fisher. and it's really about making america. you know, i p. c briefing games to domestic issues with enough kind of countries may not be as much of a part of the on the left the in directly related to some other trick police, different points objectives. ok to new la tile. we appreciate your insights. thank you for speaking to us. the pleasure. thank you.

but can you a national human rights commission says it's investigated some 60 cases of extra digital killings and $71.00 cases of abductions and enforced disappearances. since mass protests swept the country in june for weeks young kenyans the so called gen z, lead process of up pull governance of events, 10 violence during the resulting police track down. which activists say has not ended the w corresponding felix marina has been following the story for us in my robi as the money in whites. e. c. c, a being pointing to the truck is benefits. want to say police are often detailed communicating it out. officially interesting you judging q or allowing him to contact you to be able to relate to the experience of the point is that no mccain's and the nearby explain to the rest the new. so good, the top bundling

a car and you run is i'm in the car and did it really talk to you? when did you feel so scared? experiencing that you can actually go and never be seen again. she's a photojournalist informing and political activist. it's this walk he sees that makes him want to get, but he's not the only one before being adapted. what to be seen again, or the abilities or phones looking quite ray or not revived. or then what does it have a phone so it has categories with the family actually this is your government proposed tax increase prompted process in april and sometimes violent response from the police. at the end of august, president william, due to a problem in stock, shows that it will stop in it. in most areas of this region, if they use a permit, any pharmacy that their child or their friend or their relative

went to a demonstration. whether these lots deal with this. yeah, i never came, but i went to know the names because i would take some and decisive action. because as i talked to you today, i don't have a single name of somebody who has been affected or disappeared. but they kinda national commission on human rights, an official independence body, has it recorded 7 to one that's on seems ghost gym protest. head of the can see child looked up, but not my guess. i said it was having that shooting effect on local defense. bulls will have been quite vocal, i'm speaking on, you know, issues they are likely to going to be, you know, for fear of their lives. and there must be guarantees that when issues are raised, questioning, you know, accountability, questioning, transparency. there must be a way we protect both ways. those voices, a number of european diplomatic missions in a row be including dose of gemini,

they, you k last month wrote an open letter saying we not our consent alone going protest off. i'd be tell you address and enforce the disappearances. we not presidential does commitment that such incidents would not happen under his watch. and that all the individuals involved will be held accountable. we ask the police savvy and the independent policy of a site to a 3 d for comments for these reports, but didn't receive virus points waiting for this morning. he sees, he'll continue if he's a position on the walk in the country where they sort of low, where they have run news, uh, to the justly humane country. i less corrupt the country, a country every sunday equal chance in life. he says that his vision is what the objections, the tops on these forms in the fields of his family assess the to face or the on the president of the law society of kenya. she joins us from nairobi. good

to have you on the program face now. can you tell us more about what's going on with these cases? these abductions are most of these people disappearing without a trace a lot. they actually being charged with something specific. well, we have cases that people have disappeared and has not been able to find them. and we're still making calls and trying to follow up because there are some people that despite the family members the visiting the different police stations, we've not been able to trace them. and so it's, it's just that to me, illustration of what people get to come. they have been people we, we've, we've reported have died in the, in, in these incidents of disappearances have, has there been any sort of legal recourse to and says for their families. and that's the set this thing, what's happening in our country because we've seen people have been being short.

however, the trajectory from what happened in the killings into and then i start with the next slide, was the fast identity to be killed in doing this. demonstrations was that the, the booklets is picked up by a police officers who don't identify themselves, or when they go to the main government to fire was most people that wasn't treating most gosh, with wounds, all the bullets once they will budget to do the same. they have been picked up and so you cannot prosecute without that, but listing evidence to coordinate to the bullets to the shooter. so that's has been the greatest problem. and secondly, the question would be that they want to know how much people that transacting with . but you know, busy him is to ensure that they integrate the relax because of some of the biggest stokum companies and now facing the will suits because of shedding people's private data. that i'm doing the generally demonstrations of sucking,

big tell cause have been at the forefront being sanctioned by members of the public as being the ones that helped the government identify the agencies who were at that place is what do you think this whole scenario says about the state of expression and democracy and, and just people's general ability to, to speak about what's going on in, in, in society and in government in kenya. just just briefly for us to go to an extent that no technology is being used to them. and it tends to stay for the rights of people that likes to be kids to assembly to share that with us. because the jims is have shown that you can organize and call the needs people not on physical spaces. still, lucille, this is a heightened we to slow street those gym, a thief,

a 4th for bill of rights that we have under the constitution. and we will continue to fight through the channels will know to ensure that that's right is more than taking that we okay. face of down the of the law society. okay. yeah, thank you for speaking to us. thank you and thank you for being with us. that's why we'll leave it to you next time, the

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