the, to use the dream force and for the future feelings about what's going on in the industry. instead of being discussed across the continent, d, w, and use africa every friday on the w for winning. by doing the, we say they're never giving us the most exciting thoughts. stories about people in the drive every weekend on d w the beyond the result, vs to many hunters are wrong. they

kill animals. i shot you down, bang, bang. you hit the ground bang, bang for time to see it very differently. then the problem is that part of the solution? it's a momento. a souvenir is conservation signing for itself. off a saves of the animal world. wow the hunting expedition into it and your it's not just 70000 visitors more than 500 exhibitors. that is how can i help you carlo?

hang on. flashed markets his hunting trips. yeah, that's who the look on the boat is will be available there. teaser offers, like in the supermarket, dispute visitors are supposed to get an idea of what these trips costs. so i know the costs viewed it, the hunting vacation, that's condo and no question. private farm in south africa costs between 5 and 70000. yours. the german guests with that issue until the end we have the permission to tag along we covered arrow costs to remain independent. finding the pray only required a few minutes of stalking. know

5 months, hire no shot. so that was bank. couldn't be found beautiful for me. so even yeah, perfect shot. good. i know a good memory steve. us name must be up on this even as we wash the animal. so the photo looks respect developments of either no blood or sweat as a respectful display of the animal dogs failed to be this dispute for most guests, the photo and the trophy vital to a successful hunt log me all. zebra. she'll be 5. yeah. okay. so basically these all these other ones we mount it because i will email you with the details of

less drive to the site. yeah, trophy hunting is an industry in south africa. busy with your trophies on this side . we've already paid it ended this lady. now it's done, we're making natural habitats withdraw sticking up, you know, ultimately gonna use some sand or something, some sand bring that in and natural growth, artificial grass business . i'll take over the contents of why we south africans grew up with hunting animals trophy. let's meet the game and so on. so it's just what we know speaking, and of course for someone coming here from say, germany or austria, it can be horrific a shot and you can fix on the

condo and replaced connex trophies and is familiar with the debate. the. the point is the call, at least the killing of the game is legal is sorry, i post pictures and so it all the same. it showed the world that i'm not a shame twins and that it's all legal as you go up close. but photos like these attract criticism. many find it respect lists and crow people's own. there's also a few but, and people who get upset of the pictures are divorced from reality, from the vehicle. biologist daniella for i am works for pro wildlife an organization. she co founded 25 years ago to better protect wild life. gillian, where again, trophy killing. let's isn't incompatible with the modern understanding of animals

and species conservation inbox. yeah, they're especially critical of hunting safaris. i'm see accompanying price lists. me. you have some of the headlines too that were relatively cheap. yeah. under 10000 euros females even for 5000 firms. thompson and i'm out of this. have just i'm just gonna be in the draw so crazy. cheap to atlanta. yeah. similar, fairly cheap here for 1900 euros. also on sale a small crocodile for 4000 euros, a plane separate for 750 yours and off the price for i have a part of us that i send the i just find you tomorrow to put a price tag going on. i'm going to say that's how much this animals life is worth. yeah, so here is to this living stay this table so that the, those 10, if it was a national trade and elephant tasks, i'm lying pellets as a legal,

they're not allowed to leave the country. but there is an exception for trophy hunting, which undermine species protection. and regulation, i think it's best to move in on time in yet. importing hunting trophies is sometimes legal, but pro wildlife wants a complete ban. the thoughts lunch is in no hope that you will determine the is the use largest consumer of hunting trophies. and 2nd only to americans worldwide is germany fund import, the sport. truthfully, hunters would lose the incentive to kill these animals. because ultimately it's all about status and hanging your trophies on the warranty to seem to hold on and on. so not in the the maybe a is one of the most popular destinations for german hunting taurus and namibian.

steven jacobs has been offering hunting safaris since the 2010 for elephants this bull elephant was shops the previous day. fine, american now workers will process the kill. just came around this ticket. you stopped the and started feeding on that motion. then that line gave him a perfect brain shot. wonderful down, finished everything over. you know, if i would one day die. i would like to go in that man as well. it's a switch that you switch off when it's finished. there's no suffering. no, i know nothing. the elephant was very old. okay. oh and okay, colors. let's get going. the elephants advanced age matters. says the hunter,

as did the big task, an elephant tons can cost as much as $100000.00 yours. these pictures on disturbing to many, but show the realities of the industry. a $100.00 the elephant would like to have a side panel of the screen. i think he wants to make a rifle bag or soft rifle. back out of the skin. wildlife conservation is underfunded and trophies can offset the shortfalls that stephen jacob's documents. at least you can order on this conservancy without pro fee animals on this conservancy. it gives a purpose to the animals. if there is no purpose to the animals, the animals is not going to survive at the end of the day. the isn't it good to be able to sacrifice one of those poles in order to make all of the others live in this area? because that one who can do the protein that we give to the valley just for that

area, that one boat can do cash payments for the area. and it actually gives value to the elephant that one of the one thing is clear. humans are responsible for the low numbers of elephants. the elephant population has declined dramatically in the 20th century. mainly because they were hunted for the ivory. population stabilized at low levels in the 1990s. hunters all to use it, elephants are especially abundance in areas where hunting revenues fund conservation meshes. and stephen jacob says that animals can be hunted asset k. i think i think a long thing is to me is make sure that the guy, the, the animal or the prize taken on the most cleanly and in most you main way that

these don't take shots too far away. don't food if you're not 100 percent. sure that you're actually going to kill that animal. if it's fenced in a small little fence and it's hundreds, it's going to be really called a pro fee on that. you. the other thing because collecting because that's basically what it is that animal is good neutrons to get to what? so what is what is truly fee or ethical behind? but we would like to learn of other practices that are controversial, even among hunters. gemini is most important and help us to a trophy hunting look. sympathy area chef on one dish works for the international council for game and wildlife conservation or see all i see. it's been us on the phone. when i 1st started looking into the trophy hunting issue, i was pretty know you and probably was an added to that many have dismissive because everyone knows these pictures you home. everyone knows these videos for the

disability. and they also had a certain effect on me all by me, you know, to listen to this. and the fact of steph, i'm going to the she has a trained forester on tons himself, sometimes with his eagle. he campaigns against an import band on trophies. and is creating alliances around the world, canada, and that's not always the issue about one thing. that's what about sustainability in general. okay. quite interesting stuff. and a switch on you, michael. all right. i was just going to full audit to new york is on if that's true, then for him, the debate has hypocritical system unless what's different from hunting in germany? so yes, good. the deer gets eaten in the end too is just like the antelope and then maybe in the media, i guess the, the total fear is the tropi is i don't want to degrade it, but it's actually a waste product was, is just not feeling well the, the

sounds simple, but what does that really mean? we now have a few days of hunting ahead of us. it's the 1st time in i don't know how long 3 or 4 years that i finally have something like a holiday with all ready. bowman, 80 stuff on on the lease, wanted to shoot a video to be the guide meet is about an hour to find the right one. the note is it gives you another shot try and thank him again. if he gives you another

shot, the shot, it's got me something went wrong or the village. the beast was just in jet and fled. we will see if we can maybe catch up with him with a bit of down. um, we will definitely have to get another shopping in um, because if he takes over hunting again, this can take on 4 days, but we will throw bessie, see what we can do a nightmare for hunters. the animals stuff us and its on

clear if the truck goes can as a find it the quick break 3 hours later. so let's, let's do this for specialist and also for of course you want your 1st shot to be a clean chill. so, but people make mistakes, and in this case you feel i'm the one who made the mistake. and i'll go see though i still can't work out what actually happened with this policy of this. all right, maybe we'll get lucky and get close enough again. come one of them on the

and then 5 hours off to the full the shots, the track of spend the animal again. he loved of the dallas that yeah. man was for 2 years ago. so yeah. yeah, definitely. must have had to head down. yeah. but this is a perfect shot, but i do. perfect. sure. well dawn, you guys, especially. i mean, we are a team. is incredible. we are a team, the physical

physical type keeler. the head is just a part of the animal, so you're not sure you could just leave it here in the but they're going to treat it. and i can take it home with me as a souvenir from the hunting, and the value varies a lot, depending on how each hunter sees an inverse. how do you suppose you want to shoot this process fulfilled? the, the teen takes the animals body to an indigenous, solemn vintage the oh hello, how are you? what are you? good, what uh, assume uh, hunters and gather is, but they're not allowed to hunt with bronx tools and the nature preserves in return. they get the meat from the trophy hunters as well as some financial support. they kind of find the,

the small but vital difference is that this way a lot more money ends up in the community. then when one of the locals goes out hunting a bonus on top comes on the one for casa worker, these are on with great for the new was killed. and we now distribution the meeting to the side of it. i don't see anything wrong with it and judging by their faces with either today or the owners. but there are also doubts as to whether this system really works. south african generalist adam cruz questions, the benefits of trophy hunting. one of his investigation spoke to world wide control to see when i published the se, so the on story. i had no idea that this was a story that was going to go global because this is not

a one of story. this has happened many, many times before and many, many times off the woods. and that story was picked up by the international price. and then it went totally global. there's renewed uproar tonight over that hunter who killed. so the lion in the home. well, it's talking about the us dentist who killed in line and involved way where is it that difficult for you to get any reaction that you need to kill? i wasn't unhappy with that. really. my issue with the story was to highlight the problems with the trophy hunting industry. not the individual trophy. the hunting industry is problematic, sat in cruise, even if it divides by all the rules, the pro trophy hunting people and governments state that trophy hunting is necessary in order to provide financial benefits for the local communities with the because i'm going to prove that that is not the case

and it may be as nature process are among the forest regions in the country. money from all kinds of tourism is supposed to help low cost lives a better life cruise took a closer look to this guy. hello. hello. do they give you money of road next? nothing. no, no, no, no, jobs job. no. and you can service and do they fix the broken? well no, no, no. i know about that. but that keeping the water for themselves. have the money for the that the conservancy gets where do you think that goes from that money? we do not even benefit anything as we as still subheading. what do we get? nothing. even visa, we did not gave a team these things during our travels without them cruise. we own he met

a few people who benefited from the income like in this century, right because of the benefiting directly of our said plus minus. let me put that off for the 1890. 2 confirms that say each and every one will say and hold the whole court. 6 sort of money that's turkey hunting, improve your lives, gives you money rate to be honest. no. i can not see where the money's go. cruise looked into the industry in 2021 on behalf of hunting opponents o. u. p. investigated $29.00 of $86.00 protected areas and found that hardly any income from trophy hunting was reaching the locals. the big question is, where does the money go? if it's not going to that community members of the 170 years holding the money cruise match with the cham, another conservancy to confront him with the criticism. this be

a way of saying things. i'm quite sure because i got to meet a live lu. they was the benefit, did they when you let them few up and fish out of cash benefits out brought and how and the benefits will not be understood by the next visit. we didn't get the feeling that much money was getting to the low cost hunting advocates criticized cruise for working full hunting opponents cruise. betsy's independent and only uses officials, i guess for his analyses. the thing that strikes me is the constant declining wild life. so this whole notion that conservancy is preserved, wildlife, and because they preserve wildlife they, they full benefit. the communities living the is is incorrect with wild life

populations are declining, trophy hunting must not take place in response to our inquiry. and it may be in government rejected to cruise this criticism. in most protected areas, it claims the number of animals is increasing and where it's declining. it's due to drought. so human animal complex. same both way. we met with one of the most active proponents of hunting tourism pembert. i'm trip for now. when the pups runs in luxury hunting results here and is annoyed by the stereotypes of trophy hungry tourists. and so he has come as a new member, let's look good. say white man who come here like this out $581150000.00 for safari, a tooth which then goes into nature conservation come in and helps the pool. workers have all villages within this redistribution is also somehow wrong and go

do you want such a golf documents? document very paps, rarely homes himself anymore. today he wants to shoot an envelope meet for guests and employees. he owns an area and, and bob boy, slightly smaller than him the 30 years ago, which was a capital farm. now, happy tax from many endangered species, the or the status. the finance is nature conservation through his wealth and hunting income to draw. so

i need to be on the lookout because this is a walk run a button on like, you know, the parts of africa, the number of runny nose has been increasing in the south a volley, the clear arguments for valley paps, then save the regulated trophy hunting space in case of to vegas on the field when they're on track for having around $400.00 running those here in the next 5 years. because at some point time, it'd be possible to make a rhino a find a home to some european or american to ship to. and if that means the one animal pays for the owner of the conservation in the car, and i think it's great shots, proper talk unfinished as a for coming or the

private drawing and protection. forcible. so it looks to sort, searching here the forces, recruiting new ranges. there's lots of good men in these communities. it's thousands. we surrounded by thousands of people. so why, why go far, far off to funding, why not fund goodman from here and support your community? that's the key the notice asked me to marry, maintains the rhino database in everything that we haven't because of, as he has an effort to of them. so we create a photo albums that we put out of for the identification that we'd have made so that we can, we can see if you do have to create a new house. so what you want to do with this data is we went to analyze like you

population is progressing. the past and other hunting organizations find on it's about to cool to of the protection for special. okay. we've got a lot of independent dinah funding from, from diners outside on their, on choose each property that's way their own china is, are bringing in the funding through hunting inside of graphics and that kind of thing. so through they, they, they business model. but it's still not enough. the number of elephants in the south, a valley has also increased thanks to price clemons on his team to come back to poaching. in general, the number of elephants in southern africa has increased slightly. and because humans have pushed them on to small preserves, populations are even sometimes overcrowded. they rage nearby villages and destroy crops, sometimes even happy toughs. the mighty bellow about the trees are important.

ecosystems forms this got all about trees just imploded in front of the road. we have to have under the trees suffer from the climate crisis, but also because elephants eat the moist bob quinn, voters gas as shown target is to assign pounds the tragic to see a tree that centuries old being destroyed. simply because we have too many animals to feed it. that's the challenge. so no, can we shoot 3 elephant design gallery for you and go complete nonsense of all the files is probably going to enjoy conservationist. daniella fry a is just as passionate as really paps, but the goal is to achieve an e. u. white ban on the import of hunting trophies in brussels. is today the torques here was parliamentarians and also with the e. u commission are important and guessing these plans implemented and that the e u as a whole ultimately found the impulse of trophies hi,

hello daniella from la under green parliamentarian. if of course we're really pleased to see the majority has widened in the new parliament and for the people it's clear. so if you show that the majority of european citizens are against trophy hunting till fee and yaks toppling, and that it's also about to set and prestige related to hunting. which in my opinion is totally outdated. the you would definitely be ready to take the next step to make some scripts and then the parliaments cool to bomb the impulse of trophies is a success for daniella freya and us sent back push the funds organization like most countries in southern africa, maybe a poses and import fund failing,

it could lead to fuel guests and less revenue, which is live on delish has allies in the ministry of environment and tories them 1st so far, so good as well. yeah. romeo ma'am, were you and is the ministry spokes person? steph, on one dimension, updates him on the current developments in your up. i'm gonna send you 2 links this afternoon. you can use, you can read for the public segment of the european volume and it was and then say saying um the, the, the care phone is effective span of the trophy hunting and um, wildlife trade. so and now they, i've, okay, thing as is what it was not possible to implement only for joe mean, dominate,

and of a advocating for it. and brussels one of your p live. all right. that evening. steph. and when did nation meant with mack cpr newest to organizations supports and may be in consistencies which are partially financed by hunting habits . situation in finland, italy. and now it's back in germany. we don't understand why that's why jim in decision make us will make decisions on our behalf. we are really puzzled by that. to be honest. so here it's a simple question of a quality and respect. if it's a problem, let's fix it to give a, let's fix it together. you cannot just bend things and you don't get us out of tentative. if conservation cannot put bread on people's table, then we might also as well forget about conservation

an unusual encounter in south africa. hunting critic, adam cruz was about to meet hunting, organize a carlo angle past. so i'm interested in seeing how he is contributing to conservation. uh, with the trophy hunting yeah, we'll call a single break in safari. it's the 1st time the to have spoken. it's been not an argument saying that you're taking off the trophy, you taking out the base jeans off. that's b c. so a lot of cases it will be the case happening a, you've got a client in the place top dollars and you do, you allow them to shoot the biggest and strongest animal that you have. but so i want to have a few to with, with a guy before. and if you go to any farm and let's go back to the exit coats that he

was slow to use. baseball really pushed breeds really knows on his from the, the, to african rhinos. bases have been all most eradicated in the last century. may need you to that prize torn's from the population of around 1000000 only 20 to 20. 5000 germane and poaching continues to threaten their existence, breed as link angle based on money from rhino hunting. and they protect that animals this landscape kid was a foaming then skype created heaven cut the small bird life. these are the game also living here, this farm. it has also conservation venue. to a certain extent, my grid is yeah. is that we gained up in this, the stove being will, the way you have animals that have venue,

like rhino is native friends and lines in these kind of conditions and all the wild habits that disappears. true. conservation value is where you have an area that is pure by diversity where rhino doesn't just exist in itself as a rhino, but it's part of a much broader ecosystem that functions absolutely purposefully believes that animals can only be safe, just thing, have a market value. it's all the countries span, the info of trophies, he has a plan b, because he's also, as far as the a cindy, developed the world abolishes the market value of wild animal funds and you can no longer make money from them. then they have to go funds to be important, then we plant trees a monoculture and then you'll only have eucalyptus trees. instead of 30 different wild species on one patch of land at

a football. it's one of the most contentious questions. how much does the trophy hunting contribute to habitats comes to the nation? the sun is setting on trophy hunting. it's an industry in decline. it's an industry that one day is going to disappear. so by creating those bands, it's going to stop in forcing us to think of other alternatives that are more progressive and will probably have a great benefit on the impact of by diversity on this continent. what's happening here is the opposite. it's even controversial among hunters breeding lions to be hunted later. i show you some of the licensing. yeah. any you would like read as well to create particularly attractive lions other money? no question also offers can cancel that my little bit. i'd be probably the one that

i have an opportunity to maybe show showed a potential would be nice eventually a good big black my. the result is customized animals painted exclusively to the desires both the hunters. the condos, the data that's on google, the customer sees what's on offer is a full price for a full names being processed, a medium line or a weaker line for less. it all depends on the price of it was even locked in price here, ministry style videos are used to promote the can tons, at least $1000.00 tech. those are reserved for the deadly safaris that conservation, [000:00:00;00] the

as pharmacy in south africa doing of analyze. we predict that 3 lines alliance all day in the world because people can draw that common not yeah, for way cheaper than going down to line into, well, the south african breeding centers now account for almost a so just african lyons, the maturity of business fitness, the fear the slower to you, of course, i understand that people are troubled by the concept to mom. but why doesn't anyone complain about the cattle that are slaughtered to move this lion? this animal is also bred and has been hunted while the cattle are slaughtered. the southern victory so often but does this argument really make sense? first. ok. mays breeds more than just lions for hunting piece. stores meat from the other animals and sells it, but not flying neat. to meet the alliance,

we just got them for the way you cannot do anything with it. it goes. if you start facing the lion, me back to the lions that get the dice for alliance and then actually when they start fighting each other and it and then i stop by stop eating each other the hunting of captive bred lions is not the rule. that's a controversial exception. stale about 10000 and such animals exist in south africa . panama november 2022. the states if the washington convention on international trade in endangered species meant to negotiate the future of endangered species. and they'll be groups whirl so that because the agenda included the international train, huge of hunting trophies of them crew spoke of related and t hunting event on his research and the maybe he also met his after the series, the hunters, the of the

wow. yeah. the couple of weeks, the guys in the media, i spoke to a group of 1000, most women and children conservancy. they say provides nothing. and yet we keep hearing the story about these conservancy ease being successful. that they were making millions of dollars from activities like trophy hunting. this is the great conservation lie ends in hunting advocates, many pub. thank you very much. my name is way past. i'm a member of the c i. c. i am a conservationist out of some bob fit and a lot of our indigenous people are the venue. welcome to questions,

but no speeches. i have to give you a little narrative. otherwise, i called to ask the question festival, often more than a minute of speaking, without your question billy patch, this interrupted, happens. if we do that, okay, if you don't want to, that's fine. i feel crazy. that's not what i would call democracy. could be that as it may okay. to ship is what i call, that's not the kind of feel. okay. no it's, it's actually very funny. why is it room full of let me be in? see it and somebody else. and speaking our case, what stops me from guidance in a movie a speak to your people. because from what i have from them, you're not listening to them. a gosh of interest. practically irreconcilable and more open dialogue might

help to tackle the complex issues surrounding the topic. and also everyone feels hood being headed at so many problems. and we continue noticing those problems. we, i'm a bunch abused we've, what is the and that's what we have done. the last is never had an interest to bring. i forgot to be any level the i just concerned about what they are concerned about. in the end, the trophy trade was nice and know to be restricted, no relaxed at the conference is keep misty. i know it is. it's all about the mind. there is no one solution. that's a problem on what we're looking for is just the recognition of the sustainable use of wild animals as an alternative model. even all i am will that the debate is as an impass bryce clements from this in bond for

a reino conservation force. is one of the few people working with both sides. he's been fighting for endangered species since his childhood. the shooting something to hang on. the walls automatically was that a lot of people that would want to see it stopped immediately. they need to help us find sources of funding wise. i mean, we need good people to come together with an open mind and find solutions to, to all of this. otherwise, you know, it hangs in the balance by good. you got the trophy hunting is controversial, but not everything is as clear cut as it seems. that's this drums. what is clear

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