some expert advice and excellent job opportunities starts in new jersey now on korea's for germany dot com. this just needs to be used as live and from berlin. the leaders of russia in germany speak to each other directly for the 1st time in nearly 2 years. germany transfer over shoulds and russian president vladimir putin reportedly discussed the more in ukraine. but why now, after all this talk also coming up protesters in a break away region of georgia, storm the parliament demonstrators in of kazi, demanding the resignation of their kremlin back leader over an investment deal that opponents fear will drive up housing prices. and he was president elect donald trump, choose this robert f kennedy junior and environmental activists who had spread misinformation on vaccines to head the united states,

top health agents the brain golf. it's good to have you. with this, we begin with a phone call, germany transfer all off. schultz and the russian president vladimir putin spoke on the phone today, their 1st direct contact in nearly 2 years. now this picture of the call was posted to the chancellor's account on the social media platform x. according to the german government, shoulds told the boots into in his war and withdrawal russian troops from ukraine. he also urged russia to be prepared to negotiate with ukraine, with the aim of achieving a just and lasting peace. and he reiterated germany's support for keith schultz and spoke with ukrainian president boulder near zalinski. we understand before his phone call with putin, i just need to use political correspondence. i mean young gave us the latest on

this phone call. brent to at this was an out on coal between the 2 leaders and oh, laugh shows uh, used it to condemn a what's being described as rush is a war of aggression in ukraine. the chancellor said the russia had not achieved any of its more items and cooled them pertaining to end the war and pull russian troops out of ukrainian territory in particular jobs. lou sholtes seems to have focused on the suffering of the civilian population in ukraine at talking about the attacks against civilian infrastructure that we've seen increasingly in recent months. is that a drug and a miss all attacks carried out by the russians. so that was one focus. another thing that the chancellor apparently mentioned was the presence of north korean troops now and on the ground in this conflict. fighting on behalf of the russians

life showed said that was a serious escalation. and charles went on to say, again that germany has what he, what is just being described as unbreakable result to stand with ukraine for as long as it takes and support key if there was our political correspondence. i mean young i want to pull in now benjamin policy is an analyst at the think tank of democratic strategy initiative. he joins me also tonight, right here in berlin. it's going to have you with this meeting here. take, why didn't you think this phone call happened? now after 2 years of science, good evening brand good to be with you. i think honest day this is about the old shots still signaling to the gentleman public that he's still in charge. he's still chance not even if he's a lame duck. and it seems that the main purpose was really to signal to the german electorate to try this unfortunate combination of peace. johnson earned security, john sla, that hasn't worked for shots in the past, but he's doing it again. yeah. and we hear when it's campaign time be

a tier in germany or in the united states that foreign policy does not win a, an election for use. and so what do you think this would be so important for show that this top as well. it's interesting to see the emphasis of the shots has put on this issue since the, the rise of the bass bay. this our bogging connect alliance, which is a pro fruits in policy that pushes for a false piece by basically selling ukraine down the river. and it seems, the shouts has been trying to call it some of those boxes as well as to speak to the circle pacifist wing of his s p d potty. and that seems to be the main target here, as well as again to show that he's the lab, one of the food and why was this phone call in his interest as well? it's a little bit of a propaganda gift to the person because he will get nothing substantial out of it as because child isn't in the position to, to offer as many puts in my less than if shots are saying pull out of you credit.

and then we will, will send towards my styles with no targeting restrictions, which also has no intention of doing that. and there's not really many leave is the shots is willing to poll in order to put pressure on. but what it does do is give, puts in the image to the well that he's talking to. well, the that's trying to find a piece of false space. it would be but, and he has no intention of stopping his board in ukraine. and this kind of coal won't help that, but it gives him the image of doing that. and so i think it's an error of strategic communication from my last shots when, when we, when i hear you describing all of this to me, did you take the words out of my mouth? it seems like this could backfire for the chancellor with early elections coming up early next year, or is the electrons memory not that long? well, it is in keeping with shots his strategy so far. this is, this is part of the point he's actually been remarkably consistent. he's refused to say that ukraine should wind and russia should lose. he's consistently broadcast, fear about escalation of his unwillingness to, to escalate. and he's even recently expressed concerns over helping ukraine being

damaging to german prosperity. so all of this is actually very much of a piece result he's been doing so far. so he's really definitely down on was proved to be a remarkably unattractive strategy for germany, for european security for ukraine and also for the s b d intellectual time. so i really don't think it's a good choice. let me ask you about the take from keith ukraine's president. zalinski has reported. we said that the shelves, this phone call with bruton, is opening pandora's box by undermining efforts to isolate russia. of do you agree with that? he also said that this could also be a starting point for more negotiations. yes, it's hard to see how you kind of would be very pleased with this initiative from other shots. it does a to mind the isolation and pressure and as i say, gives a bit of a propaganda gift. as long as you may have proof and in terms of other negotiations, know which shots and he's not the one to launch that because everyone knows he's

living on borrowed time is john. so the, and i think it's elsewhere that negotiations would be driven with credible negotiating partners around europe and in the us. but the big question of course is, is why the man puts in a credible negotiating partner. unless that's the kind of settlement that certain countries in europe indicated they would back with ukraine getting nato membership . and we're gaining its territory that it's hard to see what would actually stop goods and from having another go in the future. so i don't think it helps european security and actually i don't think it helps you out of charles benjamin. tell us with the democratic strategy initiative. we appreciate your analysis and your time on this friday. thank you. great to be with the thanks for staying with the ukraine conflict, where a key says that north korean troops are already engaging with ukrainian soldiers fueling for years of a major escalation. russia and north korea have recently strengthened their military cooperation and concerns are now rising, that young yang could soon be supplying mos gale with masses of more drones. north

korean state media is reporting that leader kim jong own has ordered his military to begin mass producing exploding draw. young gang has been wrapping up the development of new weaponry in the last few years. the attack drones and carry explosives and crash into their targets, and they are better at evaluating air defense systems better then missiles. let's take a look now what this could mean for ukraine on the battlefield and for north korea's own relations with its neighbors. for us as chorused region where ukrainian troops have been fighting to hold land, they seized at the end of the summer. now they say they're not just fighting russian soldiers, but north koreans as well. this footage, released by ukraine's intelligence agency, appears to show north korean soldiers receiving uniforms and equipment at the military base in the far east of russia. since then,

western intelligence agencies say an estimated 10 to 12000 north korean troops have traveled to the course region supporting russian troops trying to retake the territory. north korean soldiers could free up russian troops that moscow wants on the front line in eastern ukraine. but it's unclear just how much of a difference they'll make in the war. not least because of a language barrier with their russian counterparts. more significant, it may be the ripple effects of a 3rd country sending troops into the conflict. especially for young with the 1st battles with north korean soldiers, good white mark a new chapter on global instability. next, it'd be nice to most of you together with the world. we must do everything to ensure that this russian step toward expanding the war and giving me this true escalation. escalade becomes a loss. your girl stuff to nato has reacted cautiously condemning north

korea's involvement, but fall and short of proposing direct counter measures. and warning that the 2 way partnership between russia and north korea will have consequences beyond ukraine. you see more and more is that north korea, iraq, china, and of course, russian are working together working together against your brain, farts at the same time a restaurant has to pay for this. and one of the things they are doing is delivering technology to north korea, which is now threatening the in the future. the maintenance of the us continental your advert. also our partners in the, in the pacific. defend, for example, and the republic a free of. indeed, south korea is intensely worried about its northern neighbors move. the north army is massive 1200000 soldiers and regularly provoke south korea with missile tests

and further confrontation. south koreans worried that the north will gain valuable combat experience in russia and possibly in ukraine itself. the north is also testing its military equipment against the western systems, south korea and president he on. so your said his country could review the possibility of sending military aid to ukraine poor and get more weapons into the conflict. the wild card is the u. s. president elect. donald trump has praised both north korea's kim john own and rushes. vladimir putin. trump takes office on the 20th of january, a waiting game where everything is on the line for ukraine. a number of people who've been injured after protesters storm the parliament in a brick away region of georgia of kazi lives in the northwestern corner of georgia . and it is backed by russia, friday's unrest, which was filmed by russian state television interrupted over a propos measure that would allow russians to buy property in up causing the

regents president has reportedly now scrapped that plan. and some more now, enjoyed by our correspondents, maria, catch a mazda and she has more on this. maria, help us understand what exactly sparked this outrage and a few lead these massive protests in this small breaking way region. are now the investor uh, agreement that was broke at uh by the kremlin, would allow russian companies to have an a t, a tax break, a corporate tax break. and it would allow russian companies to have exemption from custom duties and enjoy some privileges that for instance, local businesses. i'm not enjoying on that. that's what made the position and many businessman and this civil society groups and people angry. they say that the small businesses and mediums scale businesses would suffer as

a result of that agreement. and also what is being solved the position valley is that this is seen as a sort of an attempt from moscow to expand even more economically in the republic. but many people, though seem to be agree with those plans. we know that russian recognizes up cause the as an independent country, it has military and military presence, their international lead. most countries still see a policy as being part of georgia. what about the people in up cause yeah, i mean, who do they see themselves as being and where do they see themselves belonging? well, it's a separate this republic on that it is a self proclaimed republic, and that's wide, 4 to 4 with, with georgia. and it received huge help with russia, and as a result of 250000 georgia's, had to flee their homeland. and to give you

a sort of a picture. so today there are 260000 residents living and of cause the so they, they are very much close to russia. they enjoy huge financial support from russia. and it is very much isolated. and that doesn't really have any connections with the rest of the wild. and what's interesting that to it's the pictures and the videos that we have seen from there, it's difficult to get access to that territory. it's, it's seems to be stuck in the ninety's the building says will destroy doing the war there. so, you know, they're destroyed and it seems to be that this republic didn't make any sort of pro christ. and those sort of such a yes of south proclaimed the independence. the fact that this plan, which would have allowed russians to buy property and the cause of this plan has now been scrap. does that tell you that russia's influence there is weakening?

i think it's what will be interesting to see of what is going to be the prominence reaction now crumbling is watching very closely to see whether the president pro crowd pro, most co presidents will in these resign on the if the position still manages to take over the power, what is the messaging going to be from the opposition and now the position claims that they are not anti russian. these protests, i'm not anti russian. so uh, but the, some of the peas um, uh, russian. and besides that, even though the position size that they're not anti russian, that protests the seed as a sort of against moscow. and uh, i think that it's going to be interesting to see what is going to be the reaction from vitamin fulton and or maybe his pest sexist or therapist called it's still a developing picture and then it's going to be interesting to see what is the

development that dw corresponded marie, i kind of mazda in, re go with the leaves tonight. maria, thank you. in the united states president elect, donald trump, has said that robert f. kennedy junior, his picks to head the us, his top health agency will help make america healthy again. now. those were trumps words. thursday evening at a gala event and his morrow logo resort in florida. his nomination of the vaccine skeptics to become health secretary is just the latest in a string of controversial choices for government agencies. the legal team does the banquet hall full of the staunchest supporters. donald trump took to the stage for his 1st public speech since the election from welcomed by actors, sylvester is to loan, the president elect couldn't hide how much he's been enjoying. he's come back. you have to start my term from november 5th. okay. or november 6th. if you want

november 5th, because the market is going through the roof, enthusiasms doubled, it's doubled in the last short while the florida gala comes, this trump continues to unveil his pigs for the next administration. the line up now includes another controversial figure from an independent presidential candidate, robert f. kennedy junior, who's tapped to be the next us health secretary. he dropped out of the race in august and endorse drum. we are the sickest country in the world, and this, this rage take us, we need to bring donald trump to watch instead of make america how kennedy has become famous as an anti vaccination activist. for years he has insisted, there's a link between autism and vaccines. are something that has been disproved by multiple studies. the american public health association says it will campaign to

gaze his appointment, accusing him of a lack of competence. segers trump has picked up so far. thank you everybody. so gestured, views and loyalty. the things that matter most and we're going to turn our country around, we're going to making so great, so strong, so powerful. we're going to bring it all back. all of trumps cabinet donations will still be subject to conformation by the senate. where republicans command a majority for what could an anti banks or mean for global health? whenever you now margaret harris. she's but the person for the world health organization she draws me from geneva tonight. margaret, good to see you again. i want to start with um, a few things that are at the junior has said in the past. i'm sure you're familiar with them. he have said that why fi causes cancer?

prove it is a racially targeted by a weapon. and he says that, or he said that age ivy is not caused by a virus. now if anyone with these claims were to apply for the top job at the world health organization where you work with that person be higher. so you know, i'm not going to comment on hiring a w a till we have processes and we, we, we've a photo, a very complex recruitment process. so that, that, that question doesn't really apply. and it's also full w h as members states to make their own decisions on to on the direction and implementation of the national health policies of agendas. but those claims would raised some eyebrows. that wouldn't be so we look at the science for all the different subjects and as you know, we funded the science and we provide all the day during the daytime. but

i'm not really here to discuss what somebody has said or has not said, well, let me, let me ask you this market. we know that donald trump has chosen a vaccine skeptic with no real health credentials, no medical training to lead the nation's health agency. um, what is your take on that and the implications it could have for global public health? so i think it's important to look at and vaccinations. certainly vaccination is something that's saved. we talk you things a briefly, a 154000000 lives. and that's an extraordinary thing, and every gift childhood vaccination saves at least 5000000 tutored. you look around you at the people, you are say, these are people who are alive today, many of them because they go back. so makes it a but one of the problems with vaccination is it's been so successful, it's

a thing that is this, the, the disease is that it's been preventing, have disappeared in the communities of, of had access to good vaccination. so unfortunately, especially in the will, the communities with great access to vaccination. people are now beginning to believe these minutes because like the sex and i don't see the effect simply because people are living in a healthy because they go fix it, makes it. and now and wonder if there is going to be some type of domino, we're not going to affect to your human. now, we've spoken many, many times, but the course of the past few years about vaccines against cove. it now you may have the secretary of health and human services in the united states and anti backs are there at the top. i mean, the certainly have to concern you, doesn't it? i mean, what he says we'll have weight beyond the borders of the new widths. i

think it's important to understand that the united states has a very good 5, a pop now out the world health organization. and it's a collaboration has significantly improved the health of americans at home, people around the world, and that will continue. remember all the americans, all the people working in health will continue to work in health. and we work closely and productively with united states government in response to all sorts of things. including disease outbreaks like mother of a good or a wind in polio, and garza and these things are going to continue. what would have being an anti banks are in a position to power such as the secretary of health and human services? would that make your efforts at the w h o more difficult because the goal of course is to get everyone vaccinated is to stop diseases from spreading wood and r as t junior in power. would that make that effort more difficult? i remember we have

a 190 full member states and we say have the governments have different constituents and they come and go because most countries in the world are democracies and governments do change. and we guess a lot of diversity of opinion, but the people who really work in health are strongly technical people who understand the science. so regardless of what comes and goes and governments, the work happens, the community level happens at the academic level at scientific level, at medical level, and that is what really improves the health of the world's people. i know that one disease that the w h o is still fighting against as measles, and i know that mutual cases have risen globally global nasal cases, i think searched to an estimated 10300000 in 2023. that was a 20 percent increase from the previous year. they have to be united states under

the leadership of the public health leadership of r f k junior. if it would really drop out as a pro vaccine supporter. what would that mean to the fight against the spread of measles globally, a sudden you're right to raise measles as a really, really important disease that's that's can be stopped by vaccination. in fact, we estimate that 64 percent of the lines that have been saved through vaccination have been saved through use at the measles lexi. and that's an extraordinary achievement. uh, width of the rise and measles and you're quite right. we produced a report yesterday showing that the biggest outbreaks are actually in the country so that not fixing anything well enough at the moment, and that's mostly in africa and in the middle east. also there's a places where the children are very immunocompromised, so that's i think, where we're seeing the depths we have seen arise in europe as well. and,

but it's not necessarily true to antibiotics as the may will be, have been due to lack of access during the code be pending it. margaret to there could be one possible culprit here. could also be this dangerous mix of misinformation that we, we have particularly on social media. we have that we've got climate change, which could be, you know, helping in the spread of epidemics. and now of course, we could possibly have a vaccine skeptic in charge of health policy in a superpower. how concerned are you moving forward for global public health tonight? the middle of november 2024. the way concerned about public health every day, every night. that's what we do. it's certainly what keeps us awake, but you're right to mention this information is a rise and this information has been a mess. surprised, particularly during the co return demick because people were so frightened they were looking for answers and they, and in the, in some countries it was sent me

a lot of trust in, in either leadership or in science. so we've massively expanded out teams working on this information, but i continued day and night, but we worry about global public health. margaret harris was president for the world health organization in geneva, margaret. we appreciate you taking the time on this friday evening to talk with this. appreciate you taking my questions. thank you. thank you, brent and adviser team. you're wrong. the supreme leader has indicated that a ron bax lebanon's efforts to in the conflict with israel. ali lower johnny met with liberties, officials, and be rude and said that he hopes for a swift solution to the suffering of the lebanese people. the statement from hezbollah as main backer comes as loving these rescue words recovered the bodies of these 13 rescue workers. a day after a civil defense center was leveled and is really strong. this is where several of

lebanon's 1st responders were killed in a single is really strike under emergency response center. the rescue workers are still searching for the bodies. they're missing colleagues, and essentially i had, they were about 20 people in the same to, on the we found about 10 of them because there are still body parts that we haven't identified where the mom part is more of it's terrorism in every sense of the word to boma san to that risk use people if means you're destroying an entire society or somebody given israel says it's striking hezbollah targets and loving on the groups . militant wing is a designated tear organization by the e. u. us and germany and has been firing rockets at israel. but the center struck is run by the lebanese state, not an active party to the conflict. is really military in the past,

has accused has well, of using medical facilities often without providing evidence to back the claims. suzanne, who also works at the center, says there was no warning before the strike the way i'm going to do my father was sleeping there. so he could go out to warm people to evacuate. his job was to pick a bodies and deliver them to their families to be buried. just now it's my turn to pick up the bodies. my father gave me the phone or had the full, i mean, i don't know who to be sad about moore, the chief my father or my friends of 10 years on bar a can be route to relentless is really strikes show no signs of dying down. hitting residential building blocks some come shortly after advance bomb being notices released on social media by israel's army. we were at high

israel st, and evacuation warning that they would heat the central park area. we came out to see and we saw the building being leveled to the ground. lebanese authorities say israel has killed more than 3360 people since october 8 last year when the violence escalated between israel and has bola. meanwhile, lebanon's care taker, parliament speaker, that'd be buddy has reportedly received a draft ceasefire proposal from the us. he's also met with a senior. vanya and advisor said ron would back peace talk. but despite the news, lebanese, say they have little hope left to see a deal before the end of the year. you're watching dw news, and sarah kelly is up next with conflict zone. i'll be back in 90 minutes with more world news followed by the day. hope to see you the,

the, my dear, it is back said the new president. last year when he took over the german shapes of the west, african regional block echo what he pledge to boost his country's influence. after years of inward looking administration, economic malaise and security challenges, i spoke about that with the countries for ministry use of to go in a special conflict zone from the berlin global dialogue. how does he see nigeria stepping up with the leadership role when it confronts a domino of crews on its doorstep? foreign powers positioning for influence on the continent. the conflict into down and citizens leaving nigeria in the face of economic and security here. if you're in foreign minister use of took r. thank you so much for joe.