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tv   The 77 Percent  Deutsche Welle  November 17, 2024 12:30pm-1:00pm CET

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and today, welcome to the show, i am your host ok to english level coming up on the show intends on here. we need students to feel what they learn about colonial history at school. and can you either perform a community or still waiting for the return of a secret drum that was stolen by the bridget and the mayor of free telling me, sees the german ethnic a price for commitment to the sample. or have you ever looked at a map of africa and notice how straight the borders of some countries are? the may be a, for example, where i'm from. looks like it was drawn up with a ruler. that's because over a century ago, powerful walk lead us met up in germany to shape the future of africa by selecting territories to establish the colonial borders that we know today. for a quick refresher, my colleague victor pen, well,
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it takes us through the berlin conference. did you it timeframes. got to please almost 140 years ago. changed defeats after gun confidence in november of 18 each for a few of the walls and those possibly lead us guys are going to jump on still for you to bring in timeframe. so let's take a look. that's what really happened and why that happened during the age and seventies and early eighties. you got nations such as greek, between france and germany, begun to teach, actually, capital metro associates for green day industrial sectors, as well as a professional my kits for the good these factories produce the political experience of markets because i marks for you counseling, position for taylor in africa, the outcome of the meeting has impacted you in more weeks time. kind of imagine here a hype, keith took you, is that you need to know the burden conference of 18 minutes fault. it's. it's 5 was initially set by jump on. johnson though,
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portals on this month. the idea was that to dispute in between the video, so you can pause, we're fine for interest in africa, and those avoid the walk. it was attended by 15, you can countries, the us and the ottoman empire at that time. this is great conference that gave the democratic republic of claims as a private key to the bill, john gene the you can tell us identified zones amongst themselves based on your individual interest on pursuits. and these eventually led drunk the african continent babbling desk. that takes these 2 dates. the conference did half of one plus speed, outgoing it. finally 4 beat slipped feet in africa. that'd be gone. indicate senshi . now a big point from what we just heard is that the berlin conference was a scramble for africa and its resources. but imagine coming into an area where people have already settled and wanting to land or forcing them into hard labor.
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colonial forces face mess of resistance. you may have heard of the head or number of genocide in the media or the my g margie rebellion intends on. yeah. but how much of this history is taught in schools for this week? special debate and money henrich is in doris. allow me to explore this very question. let's take a look. hello everyone, and welcome to 77 percent special debate. and today we're here in terms of near the rest of them at this group comp us together with student and historical ed spots. we want to explore how much the history, particularly colonial history, see as much as to date, to kick off this discussion. i'm posing this question to the students when to do 1st time, then about that island, the history of calling the reason for my grandparents my grandfather, my grandmother. i was excited to learn more about how to make one further up to the active being achieved in my hand guy the and 2 together region in june be so i was
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actually more interested in learning more of the tactics and leadership skills are used in class we so we touched on it, but it's very basic knowledge that we learn about it when we do learn it, it's not very representative of the whole globe and it doesn't really talk about how other countries, especially countries in africa have undergone it or how the experiences were altered for everyone who actually discussed the same topic with the students in the school in don't mind and they recorded some questions for all a few guys. so come closer to me so that you can see the question my question for you guys is whether you guys learned about client isn't in class or how much more you're informed then us or maybe with just my class. yes. so my question to you guys would be, how you feel about germany? since i know germany did not do nice things in the corner this so the 1st question was, how much do you learn about history in your classes?
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are previous history. teacher went out of his way to actually teach us about colonialism about the german colonialism and those that actually actually the only way that i learned about it. and the 2 most significant things that we learned to was in your 6 when we went to the bottom royal slave trade place and out and in your a to in the, went to kill a k, c one e, where it was mostly the arabic slave trading portal of sue a feeling of the hearing that i was actually quite shocked because i didn't. i had no clue about that before. as i thought terms in the i was just like, completely independent or so it was just before that it was just like a whole african tribe united. we went on the textbook like was this literacy is talking about colonialism. but we also went out of the textbook like, what are the students opinion, how do you see the matter of colonialism? how do you take it as personal? like? do you see there is any current relationship between the,
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those years of colonialism and this is our current life we thought colonial is so the 2nd question was about, how do you guys feel about the deadline? is because the 2 didn't feel like a gentleman didn't do anything good. they were harsh, so they killed a lot of people and like they, they fought, you know, like rebellions like my mind. you are building like a machinery so like, people should like. so it was very hush hush. okay, i see the hand here, although jeremy do a lot of bad stuff. i quite enjoy the country. i think they are very, very interesting country. and i think they still have a big impact in terms of near right now. for me, it was a bit challenging. learning about cooling isn't because i'm from both background german an offer can and it's hard to believe that your own people could do that to your other culture in a way. and so it was kind of difficult, grew up. thank you so much,
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remy. you are the cultural curator. yeah. and you walk around the block in a week on history, and you was born in pennsylvania buckley to on, grew up in germany. how do you feel like to have like the rich northridge around these? he story of 2 countries. i'm a bid with ears with the confused, but you're working on healing and growing. and just educating more people about colonialism. a lot of our history was res. so a lot of us is she is very difficult to step into. i want to say the proud african sierra and step into the story and like the recess, the and at the same time was an extreme gap of knowledge. read. this was knowledge kept things, we just don't know because they were in griffin or they were taken to germany like skulls and all the information's diaries. we don't have so much of that intense and am i think there's still a discrepancy and the gap of like, who benefits from different things which we called post colonial effects. like
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after colonialism, what happens, but then there's also the emotional effect of like, what happened to my ancestry, where as the remains of our grandparents and how can i step into myself. we know there was in qual, uh he did a b, c, d, but do we know um his emotions he says, day to day activities. um what he felt, what he went through, maybe personal relationship with his wife with these kids. we don't know that because we loved them like fictional characters. so i was, i was, you was the to, i wanted to bring forth stories of women which are very much on told basically. but i also wanted to bring out the stories that people can relates. they can, they can see the mentor processing of these people and how, what's broach then was filaments, both of them to become holding. well, because most of that has men, we see men of saves most of the time. and there is none, especially get into that. we have none of that. thank you so much intends and yet
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we have lead to dunc a who owes to at least how history has been paid and told to different generation, and we have the, we do a boat. so let's watch it. you take it down, go was a spiritual leader from the near total people in thinking about north central attends on you. she was born in the 1816 to a family of traditional. she lives in a state that she could predict the future. german forces came into her region in 191 as a tried to expand a 13 over there, colonial kings called on her people to resist the german colonial rule. when the germans got wind up the resistance, we have to put down the ticket done. got you set to have use peace to protect people and come to the germans, advanced weapons, pensa, named queen of the bees. according to oral tradition, let me take, you've done some reviews to district german forces after which local fighters would attempt in local folk. lo and songs and the ticket, duncan's power over the beast,
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was ruined by an informant. her best friend in an act of betrayal, lead ticket down go, was captured by german authorities with help from rival collaborate. she was beheaded and has called electrically taken to germany. today she still remembered intends on being fulfilled as a career just by to and the fee and this woman. how do you guys feel about the video after watching the video is always super excited cuz of this thing. first it is a woman close. we don't actually hear more about women, but in that video, it gave me a sense they also women were involved in fighting for independence. during the time of colonialism, i feel like it's a repeated history because a lot of chiefs also happen to have the same kind of pass that they were resisting or so like that into a hiding. and the funds would be tre, them because of bribery and stuff like that. and i just feel like at some point, it's a reason as to why independence was a bit late. most of history's mask. right?
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so like it's trying to shape like a different side of the storage and sometimes hidden in many parts of like africa and, and also world history isn't then just affect men affected women and several children as well. and these tories are not being shared out. no one is taking into consideration devona birching, and refreshing they have faced in their life. and i think a lot more like needs to be signed onto that. what do you think should be done to make sure that the young generation equipped to with much knowledge currently not only in pens in in but also in germany. we don't colonialism is not a main factor. so in terms of media is as it's private schools or government schools, we often learn from the british era. and then even our curriculum after independence is mostly british focused. so there's a lot of need to involve historians and other pedagogical forms to coal, right. and pedagogy,
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cup looks really do you think this history shapes the 2 days while adult, all future in any way? yes. of course it shapes and we were talking about racism. the fact how we think about ourselves and about how to think of us so, which also means is a big chance to teach shape the right to empower young humans to learn more. i believe that having different stories, they're not just focus from the west and also are told from an african viewpoint is very important, which we can see throughout quantization is lacking. whereby most of the evidence is recorded by the western world and it isn't very accurate for a lot of us. they generally like young people, i don't know myself. i don't my culture was and they explained to me all told to me because i needed to learn like language just like english so i can be able to survive in society today. but generally, so he, these are important like language for us is what's build since preserves
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a culture and all of its being taken away on work, keep forgetting about it. so let's go back to ones where you are, but to keep changing. thank you so much for watching and i am remind her rick from the side of the. c very good point to raise in that the bait history should be taught in the language you understand. and also from an african perspective, we have a lot more debates or not 77 percent in youtube channel. so be sure to check it out . now i have a question for you. how does colonialism affect you would love to hear your thoughts on social media platforms. but for a start we us young people in the maybe a, a nature. yeah, that's very question. it's a junk button. we have some home. uh, 10 percent of picked up by to put that in for lunch is between dates. i see those
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dates between the white and black simply means that that i'm moving around again. 20 minutes later. maybe they should just blow away the color on the board. diminutive them, as i do not think, let's see, it's the same is it was making the days, but we suffer from some excellent things that they did not case connection to may not get it show it was brought to be shown as one of decided bunting degree shown we, we have no united put on anything because it's time for that to start from what hide in the lease that we should actually been queued on the web and stuff that we basically focused for good reports to see what are you going to do? it in education, if we went school a nice them they, we would still be living and we, we used to be, we get a community like the other they both now everybody's guy shows up get back. yeah. unable every you got is i could do that to get an is big like, what's these?
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no, i'm not going to blame dakota now. my size anymore because we are well donations and countries levels have been pretty nice and they've actually done reporting sales. i think be responsible for what we do right now. active main to this one. see what i need as a responsible for maybe all right? no, not particularly now. most of that is definitely food for thought. can we blame colonialism for the current state of countries, or should that responsibility lie with our lead as, as well? in the next report, we explore how kenya's, vocational community is still waiting for the return of a sacred drum. taken by british colonial officers over a 100 years ago, while it's stored in the archives of the british museum, the drums to hold significant power for this community. monrovia zoomed by, re tens every so often to these groups in shallow on the banks of kenya's, tennessee river. he belongs to the become a community. the grooves, once house,
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the pool comb with the eclipse and got the drum which was stolen by british colonial offices. over 100 years ago in the possible, the eldest boot had been got in a place like vc. it was a secret place in the forest in height, but not even small children could find their way. here. the drum or gag was once visible comb with center of silver and power. it determined their way of life. the without it, the groove is no longer a secret and come with the governing council to reach manuel who belongs, has lost most of its authority. elders like men, we have vivid memories of the colonial period that they were too young to have set eyes on the drum themselves. after taking the guide you from the coma,
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it was shipped abroad and kept in storage in london's british museum. the book home was king michael rodney, i'm gonna go for the 7th and the elders in his kingdom. i will read the drum will never return, then guide is like on this new months, even if i had the midst of wisdom. and is that the problem in, in england, if i had the mis lang somewhere? and they musing it does that would store what was it to me 2nd you need yes to them. it's so this isn't a drum on savages, but wait, it is a beautiful piece, which is not all but the task means it has some functions. why should do denied an object? it's functions like for coma. many communities across the applicant, continental demanding for the return of london, comfortable feeling kenya's national museum and
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exhibition is taking place in visible inventories is questioning the results of the objects as the like. visual for the sex preserves like div empty boxes because like when you go to a museum, you don't expect to see empty cases. the missing objects include items such as mass shields, smoking times coons, grandma coast, to drums, instruct lines on, you know, being visible inventories program recorded like 52000 missing object plan was to create a database of canyon objects that are spread out across these cultural institutions . across the world, because because can yet as in no way it's public, find what they are, we decided to visualize every object as a shipping label. because for us,
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every object that left can was shipped out. right. and honestly, we've covered on the walls, but this is only like 2000 the british museum has one of the largest collections in the world of cultural artifacts, given the breast of its colonial empire. while other former colonial powers have already begun the process of retaining looted as effect, britain is still dragging these all these beautiful se, laws against mental, which is really strange that you know, you take objects from people and then you create laws to prevent them going back so now it's, it's, it's really going to the tunnel objects, which was mostly legal to take them right. michael run homeless king recently got communication from the british museum that they would like to talk a huge step forward from when he 1st lots to the initial request. his community, which numbers are roughly 200000 live in one of the porous regions of kenya. many
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no longer adhere to the old traditions in question, the renaissance of the drum to day. yet macaroni remained adam about it's important . it is really a very important sent a photo of people. but in the museum, let's just say on a moment of subtraction. here it is bound to that life of all these he did, he prepared. this is our property if he basically got hacked in and then he didn't really tons to a single note bank for somebody heidi's low food that didn't really tons of it or less the king michael rodney. and really, as opposed to when i return to the old days, will not be obvious. but sitting here under the lush mangle trees by the tennessee river, the hopeful that the society distinct identity will one day be resurrected an era to become a little ones proud on. now enough dwelling on the past. oh and
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makes report takes us to the present and one woman's vision for the future. i'm talking about a born kasanya, the may or feet out in syria, neil, she has just been awarded this years. i think a price for our efforts to improve society. take a look. this is free town, the capital, a sierra leon. since 2018. the city is run by may a yvonne kingsley. yeah. i grew up in a city that was green. i grew up in this city where like i said, i left i'm trees. i mean, i was doing that since i was as high, and i love nature and seeing that being destroyed and seeing the challenges with segmentation that were around a, you know, in 20172018. those are factors that push me that on. yeah, that made me do to make the decision to,
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to run for office after leading the more presidents, if the recovery team actually so get into politics and one of the mayoral election in 2018 advocating for transform fee town agenda and business plans address, waste management and aimed to restore 3 towns green hills through tree planting. obviously it was committed to protecting the environment and once future generations to experience the green, sweet town of her childhood. the weight 25. whatever she does. yvonne q 4. yeah. what is the bolts of citizens of q town and had decision making? this type of government has until a claim,
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but locally and nationally solidifying legacy the end impacts. the re to growth is the population diversity. the lack of timing. um, you know, challenges around the way the building permit thing is done at a centralized level. has meant that in spite of 5 years of hardware, we still see that there's more that we can do there. 2 things that i would definitely say will always stick out for me as like as these of being the mayor. free town one not surprising free town to, to town. you know, our decision and commitment target to plan to 1000000000 cheese. the 2nd would be interesting, lee, because lots management the may, a has prioritized clean, such as the economy initiatives to address local challenges. then you plot that process is ways to bring it into copland. this cooking briquettes offers an alternative to the widely used chocolate brick hips and the city the tree see
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plants help with use the temperature and make the city more resilient to flooding. i'm drugs and it's not just about the fact that these environmental issues are there. you've made a huge progress. it's also about the fact that the people of the cities lines are negatively impacted by the fact the time of change is competing. temperatures are rising, sea levels are rising. extra weather patterns are becoming more common. if you don't care who gets the credit, you're more likely to get things done. we want the work to be done for the people of free town. it doesn't need to have our name on it. it just needs to be done. at least this wish won't come true despite it's not wanting any credit for what you want. i q. so you one the german africa prize 2024 for commitment and dedication to the people of his city. the
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is a big congratulations to evo, and i can show you as a wrap up the show. it's clear that the past due impacts both me and you, but it's great to see how learning our history can help us shape the future. let's continue the discussion on our social media pages. we always want to hear from you . i'll leave you with this inspirational from, from the one and only rocky, the only calls i've never bowed down until next 5. chairs down the
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if you like history. but with the side of culture travel and control the see this one i'm ready just do it. and i may send a book us that will put the wow santa back in 0 and every day, not every day we encounter so many things that we don't even notice. and i just kind of fade into the background. but it is still showing a spotlight on them. what you say might just surprise. we're going to dig up the, the on the everyday things around. where did they come from when, why did they have all the time? i should just search for the day and trace amount where they gave me the name moved close. it means happy. when i was 8 years old, i was already dreaming of a future as a senior or something i wanted to become the funeral of my family. lou just dream was within reach. she become a star in turkey,
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open the and a man took everything from with the help of his family and music. she rebuilt her life and then his sister also became a family scholar by hatred and mother and the daughters. i am willing to work for change and also so i will sing my song say, well, this injustice will not go unpunished. maybe my voice will be heard back to bring to our seeking justice for the victims of sam. assign starts november 21st on dw, the this is dw news life from berlin rusher launches its latest wave of missile attacks on ukrainian cities. the presidents of lensky says
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