no one should have to make up your own mind. dw may 4 mines. why does something to happen? 140 years ago, still matter to you today on the 77 percent, we explore how and event that divided up africa and took started. colonialism remains relevant today. welcome to the show. i am your host. ok to english novel. coming up on the show. intends on here. we need students to feel what they learn about colonial history at school. and can yeah, the community a still waiting for the return of a sick with drunk that was stolen by the bridges and the mayor of free telling me, sees the german as take a price for

a commitment to the sample. or have you ever looked at a map of africa and notice how straight the borders of some countries are? the may be a, for example, where i'm from. looks like it was drawn up with a ruler. that's because over a century ago, powerful world leaders met up in germany to shape the future of africa by selecting territories to establish the colonial board. does that we know today for a quick refresher my colleague victor upon. well, it takes us through the berlin conference. did you it timeframe structure piece almost 140 years ago. changed the feats after gun sentence in november of 18 each for a few of the walls and those possibly lead us guys are going to jump on still for you to bring in timeframe. so let's take a look at what really happened and why that happened. during the age and seventy's, an urgent need some easy conditions, such as greek, between france and germany,

begun africa for natural resources for green day industrial sectors, as well as a potential markets for the goods. these factories produce the political experience, markets began. max, please, your counseling position for taylor in africa. the outcome of the museum has impacted you in more weeks time. kind of imagine here, a hype key to carries that you need to know their burden. comprehensive estimates for its inch 5 inches that by jump on transfer though or to form this month. the idea was to, to dispute in between the video. so you can pause, we're buying for interest in africa, and those avoid the was, it was attended by 15. you can countries for us and watch them on empire. i'm not saying these is very confident that gave the democratic republic of clinton as a private key to the goes on to the you can tell us identified zones amongst themselves based on your individual interest and pursuits. and these eventually led

drunk. the african continent variable does, but exceed 2 dates. the conference did have one plus speed, outgoing it. finally 4 beat slipped feet in africa. that'd be gone. indicate senshi . now a big point from what we just heard is that the berlin conference was a scramble for africa and its resources. but imagine coming into an area where people have already settled and wanting to land or forcing them into hard labor. colonial forces face mess of resistance. you may have heard of the hetero number genocide in the media or the my g margie rebellion intends on here. but how much of this history is taught in schools? for this week? special debate and money henrich is in doris. allow me to explore this very question. let's take a look. hello

everyone and welcome to 77 percent special debate. and today we're here in terms of near the rest of them at this group comp us to get up with student and historical at spots. we want to explore how much the history, particularly colonial history, see as much as to date, to kick off this discussion. i'm posing this question to the students when to do 1st time, then about that island, the history of calling. the reason for my grandparents my grandfather, my grandmother, i was excited to learn more about how to make one further up to the active being achieved in my hand guy the and 2 together region in june be so i was actually more interested in learning more of the tactics and leadership skills are used in class we, so we touched on it, but it's very basic knowledge that we learned about it when we do learn it, it's not very representative of the whole globe and it doesn't really talk about how other countries, especially countries in africa have undergoing it or how experiences were altered for everyone who actually discussed the same topic with the students in the school

in don't mind. and they recorded some questions for all a few guys. so come closer to me so that you can see the question my question for you guys is whether you guys learned about client isn't in class or how much more you're informed then us or maybe with just my class. yes. so my question to you guys would be, how you feel about germany? since i know germany did not do nice things in the corner this so the 1st question was, how much do you learn about history in your classes? are previous history. teacher went out of his way to actually teach us about colonialism about the german colonialism and those that actually actually the only way that i learned about it. and the 2 most significant things that we learned to was in your 6 when we went to the bottom royal slave trade place and out and in your a to in the, went to kill a k, c one e, where it was mostly the arabic slave trading portal of sue

a feeling of the hearing that i was actually quite shocked because i didn't. i had no clue about that before. as i thought terms in the i was just like, completely independent or so it was just before that was just like a whole african tribes united. we went on the textbook like was this literacy is talking about colonialism. but we also went out of the textbook like, what are the students opinion, how do you see the matter of colonialism? how do you take it as personal? like? do you see there is any current relationship between the, those years of colonialism and this is our current life without colonial is so the 2nd question was about, how do you guys feel about deadline? is because the student feel like a gentleman didn't do anything good. um they were harsh, so they killed a lot of people and like they, they fought like rebellions like my mind you a 1000000000 like a machinery so like people should like. so it was very hush hush

. okay. i see the hand here. all the jeremy do a lot of bad stuff. i quite enjoy the country. i think they are very, very interesting country. and i think they still have a big impact in terms of near right now. for me, it was a bit challenging. learning about cooling isn't because i'm from both background german an offer can and it's hard to believe that your own people could do that to your other culture in a way. and so it was kind of difficult growing up. thank you so much, remy. you are the cultural curator. yeah. and you walk around the block in a week on history, and you was born in pennsylvania buckley to on, grew up in germany. how do you feel like to have like the rich northridge around these? he story of 2 countries. i'm a bid with ears with the confused, but you're working on healing and growing. and just educating more people about colonialism. a lot of our history was res. so a lot of us is she is very difficult to step into. i want to say the proud african

sierra and step into the story and like the resistor and at the same time with an extreme gap of knowledge read. this was knowledge gap. things we just don't know because they were in griffin or they were taken to germany like skulls and all the information's diaries. we don't have so much of that intense and am i think there's still a discrepancy in the gap of like, who benefits from different things which we called post colonial effects. like after colonialism, what happens, but then there's also the emotional effect of like, what happened to her ancestry, where as the remains of our grandparents and how can i step into myself. we know there was in qual, uh he did a b, c, d, but do we know um his emotions he says, day to day activities. um what he felt, what he went through, maybe personal relationship with his wife with these kids. we don't know that because we loved them like fictional characters. so i was, i was, you was the to,

i wanted to bring forth stories of women which are very much, i'm told basically. but i also wanted to bring out the stories that people can relates. they can, they can see the mentor processing of these people and how, what's broach then was filaments, both of them to become holding. well, because most of that has men, we see men of saves most of the time. and there is none, especially get into that. we have none of that. thank you so much for your intense and yet we have lead to dunc a who was to at least how history has been paid and told to different generation, and we have the we do a boat. so let's watch it. take it down, go was a spiritual leader from the near. total people in thinking about north central attends on you. she was born in the 1860s to a family of traditional. she lives in a state that she could predict the future. german forces came into her region in 191 as a tried to expand a 13 over there,

colonial kings called on her people to resist the german colonial rule. when the germans got wind up the resistance, we had to put down the ticket done. got you set to have use base to protect people and come to the germans, advance weapons tend to name queen of the beast. according to oral tradition, let me think you've done some reviews to distract german forces after which local fighters would attempt in local folk, lo and songs, and the ticket. duncan's power over the beast was ruined by an informant. her best friend in an act of betrayal, lou ticket down go, was captured by german authorities with help from rival collaborate. she was be headed in his call and magically taken to germany. today, she still remembered intends on being fulfilled as a career despite it. and the fee and this woman. how do you guys feel about the video after watching the video is always super excited cuz of this thing. first it is a woman close. we don't actually hear more about women. but in that video,

it gave me a sense. they also women were involved in fighting for independence during the time of colonialism. i feel like it's a repeated history because a lot of chips also happen to have the same kind of pass that they were resisting or so read that into a hiding. and the funds would betray them because of bribery and stuff like that. and i just feel like at some point, it's a reason as to why independence was a bit late, most of history's mass, right? so like it's tried to shape like a different side of the storage and sometimes hidden in many parts of like africa and, and also world history isn't didn't just affect men affected women and several children as well. and these tories are not being shared out. no one is taking into consideration the vulnerability and impressions they have faced in their life. and i think a lot more like needs to be signed onto that. what do you think should be done to make sure that the young generation equipped to with much knowledge of currently

not only in pens in in but also in germany? we don't colonialism is not a main factor. so in terms of media is as it's private schools or government schools, we often learn from the british era. and then even our curriculum after independence is mostly british focused. so there's a lot of need to involve historians and other pedagogical forms to coal, right. and pedagogy, cup looks really do you think this history shapes the 2 days will do all future in any way? yes, of course it shapes and we were talking about racism. the fact how we think about ourselves and about how i the think of us. so, which also means is a big chance to teach shape the right to empower young humans to learn more. i believe that having different stories, they're not just focus from the west and also are told from an african viewpoint is

very important, which we can see throughout quantization is lacking. whereby most of the evidence is recorded by the western world and it isn't very accurate for a lot of us. they generally like young people, i don't of myself. i don't my cultural was and they explained to me all told me because i needed to learn like language just like english so i can be able to survive in society today. but generally, so he, these are important like language for us is what's voltage preserves a culture and all of its being taken away on work, keep forgetting about it. so let's go back to ones where you are, but to keep changing. thank you so much for watching and i am remind her rick from the side of the. c very good point to raise in that the bait history should be taught in the language you understand. and also from an african perspective, we have

a lot more debates or not 77 percent in youtube channel. so be sure to check it out . now i have a question for you. how does colonialism affect you would love to hear your thoughts on social media platforms. but for a start, we us young people in the maybe a, a nature. yeah, that's very question. a, it's a chunk button. we have to somehow 10 percent of pick decide to put it in for lunch is between dates. i see the dates between the y intercept. black simply means that that i'm moving around again for 3 minutes white. maybe they should just blow a, it's a call on the board is demanded. as i do not think se it's the same as it was making the days. but we suffer from some excellent things on the case connections you might look at it show the broad degree shown as one of disadvantage regression. we know you're not

pulling anything because they tend to like to start from what hide in the lease. uh we should that's already been done. well the, the stuff that we basically, if i was forgetting me for see, what are you going to do? i in education, if we went school, the nice them they, we would still be living and we used to be, we get a community like the other people, they both. now everybody's guy shows on the back of the unable every you got is i could do that to get an is big like what is now i'm not going to blame the couldn't now must bugs anymore because we all put on new shots and countries levels have been pretty nice and they've actually done reporting sales. i think be responsible for what we do right now. act of mean to this one thing. what i need as a responsible for gravy. all right, no, not the committee. now most of that is definitely food for thought. can we blame colonialism for the current state of countries or should that responsibility lie

with our leaders as well? in our next report, we explore how kenya spoke. homo community is still waiting for the return of a secret drum taken by british colonial offices over a 100 years ago. while it's stored in the archives of the british museum, the drums to hold significant power for this community, a malaria zoomed by re tens every so often to these groups in chill level on the banks of kenya, center event. he belongs to the become a community. the grooves once house, the pool home with the kids and got you drum, which was stolen by british colonial offices over 100 years ago. in the past the eldest would hide. thank god she in a place like these to see it as a secret place in the forest in height, but not even small children could find their way here. how you put the drum or gag was once we via does it become was sent to a sovereign power. it determines the way of life

the without it, the groove is no longer a secret and come with the governing council to reach manuel he belongs, has lost most of its authority. l does like one where we have vivid memories of the colonial period. but they were too young to have set eyes on the drum themselves. after taking the guide you from the pl como it was shipped abroad and kept in storage in london's british museum. the book home was king michael rodney, i'm gonna go so the 7th and the elders in his kingdom, i will read the drum will never return. then guides is like a mess. i need imagine if i had the midst of westminster, the parliament in england. if i had the mis lang somewhere here, and they musing it does that fort stewart, what to the to the 2nd you need us to them. it's,

this isn't a drum on savages, but wait. it is a beautiful piece, which is not all, it might be to have some use. it has some function. why should do denied an object? it's functions like the for coma. many communities across the applicant, continental demanding for the return of the slender, comfortable feeling kenya's national museum and exhibition is taking place in visible inventories is questioning the results of the objects at the like. visual for the sex preserves like div empty boxes because like when you go to a museum, you don't expect to see em 2 cases. the missing objects include items such as mass

shield, smoking times coons, gree block of drums and soft lines on, you know, the invisible inventories program recorded like 52000 missing object plan was to create a database of canyon objects that are spread out across these cultural institutions across the world, because because can yet as in no way of object sign what they are, we decided to visualize every object as a shipping label. because for us, every object of left can was shipped out, right. and honestly, we've covered on the walls, but this is only like 2000 the british museum has one of the largest collections in the world of cultural artifacts, given the breath of its colonial empire. while the former colonial powers have already begun the process of retaining new to add to effect, britain is still dragging these all these beautiful se,

laws against of mental homes x, which is really strange that you know, you take objects from people and then you create laws to prevent them going back. so now it's, if it's really going to be tunnel objects which was mostly legal to take them right . mccoy, on the homeless king recently got communication from the british museum that they would like to talk a huge step forward from when he 1st lots to the initial request. his community, which numbers are roughly 200000 live in one of the porous regions of kenya. many no longer adhere to the old traditions in question, the relevance of the drum to day. yet macaroni remained adamant about its importance. it is really very important. sent a photo of people. but in the museum, it's just on a moment of objection. here it is bound to the life of all these he did, he prepared. this is our property. if he basically,

i can. and then he didn't really tons to a single note bank for somebody. heidi is low for the community, tends to be or less the king macaroni and really as in the opposed to when i return to the old days, will not be obvious. but sitting here under the lush mangled trees, by the time of the hopeful that the society distinct identity will one day be resurrected, an error will come on. one's proud on now enough dwelling on the past. oh and makes report takes us to the present. and one woman's vision for the future. i'm talking about a born a kasanya, the may or feet out in syria. neal, she has just been awarded this years. i think a price for our efforts to improve passivity. take a look. this is free town, the capital a c, early on since 2018. the city is run by may

a yvonne actually so yeah. i grew up in a city that was green. i grew up in this city where like i said, i left i'm trees. i mean, i was doing that since i was this high, and i love nature. and seeing that being destroyed and seeing the challenges with sanitation that were around a, you know, in 20172018. those are factors that push me that on. yeah, that made me do to make the decision to, to run for office after leading the from a president, if the recovery team actually so get into politics and one the mayoral election in 2018 advocating for transform fee town agenda and business plans address, waste management and aimed to restore 3 towns green hills through tree planting. obviously it was committed to protecting the environment and once future

generations to experience the green, sweet town of her childhood, the weight $25.00 whatever she does, yvonne. okay. so yeah. what is the bolts of citizens of que town and had decision making? this type of government has until a claim, but locally and nationally solidifying legacy the end impacts. the re to growth is the population diversity. the lack of timing. um, you know, challenges around the way the building permit thing is done at a centralized level. has meant that in spite of 5 years of hardware, we still see that there's more that we can do there. 2 things that i would definitely say will always stick out for me as like as these of being the mayor.

free town one not surprising free town to, to town. you know, our decision and commitment target to plan to 1000000000 cheese. the 2nd would be interesting, lee, because lots management the may, a has prioritized clean, such as the economy initiatives to address local challenges. then you plot that process is ways to bring it into copland. this cooking briquettes offers an alternative to the widely used chocolate brick hips and the city the tree see plants help with use the temperature and make the city more resilient to flooding and drugs. and it's not just about the fact that these environmental issues are there. you've made a huge progress. it's also about the fact that the people of the cities lines are negatively impacted by the fact the time of change is competing. temperatures are rising, sea levels are rising. extra weather patterns are becoming more common. if you

don't care who gets the credit, you're more likely to get things done. we want the work to be done for the people of free town. it doesn't need to have our name on it. it just needs to be done. at least this wish won't come true despite it's not wanting any credit for what you want. i q. so you one the german africa prize 2024 for commitment and dedication to the people of his city. the is a big congratulations to evo, and i can show you as a wrap up the show. it's clear that the past due impacts both me and you, but it's great to see how learning our history can help us shape the future. let's continue the discussion on our social media pages. we always want to hear from you . i'll leave you with this inspirational from from the one and only rocky. the only calls have never bowed down until next 5 chairs

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