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solutions the future is 77 percent every weekend on the w this is dw nearest live from berlin to 9. ukraine dismisses warnings of a major russian missile strike calling a psychological warfare. the u. s. and other western nations have close their embassies and keep in response to the threat. the kremlin says ukraine's use of american long range missiles has increased the stakes of this conflict. significantly. also coming up the stand off between police and the legal workers and in a band and gold mine in south africa. authorities have cut off supplies, but the miners are refusing to surface the
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brink off. it's good to have you. with this ukraine has dismissed warnings of a major russian missile stripe, blaming a psychological warfare operation that it says is being carried out by moscow, with the ukrainian capital on alert. several western nations, including the united states, close their embassies, and keep in response to the threat they earlier of ukraine use. the us and the missiles known as attack comes for the 1st time to hit an ammunition depot inside russia. the kremlin says, with that a new phase of the war has begun, and the kremlin is vowing to respond accordingly. as well as allowing ukraine to use the missiles, the by the administration, has also given keep the go ahead to use american land mines. us defense secretary lloyd austin says that is a positive step of their fabricating their own and our personal land
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mines right now. the land mines that we would look to, to provide them with the land mines that to that are not persistent. you know, we can, we can control when they would as a self self activate, self designate in the and that makes it uh, you know, far more safer eventually than the things that they are creating on their own. or earlier i spoke with joe metella in the sacramento, so she's a senior lecturer in security and development at kings college london. she told me more about the non persistent landlines that the us defense secretary was talking about i think what, what is meant is, are these non lines very kind of safe destruct or they have, are sure to sort of live span because the sort of a lose the battery charge, and from what i've read, you know, they could, they could be active be between sort of from 4 hours to maybe 2 weeks. so they're not on minds that, that are active for, for long,
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long periods of time. and therefore, they are a lot less dangerous. i mean, the question that arises in my respect is, in this respect, is, you know, to what extent companies to be considered deficient. because if they have these live span, then what you would expect is that the russians might wait until this live spanish is over. so i think we need to find out a bit more about the technicalities for our job. what is clearly said, if my minds are deployed, you know, they, they can help to lead me to a certain extent. also these, these russian advances, especially in areas where there's been quite successful knows around going to do that, don't box on, on potentially separate, easier. v underwood training bands, the use of the types of land lines that we're talking about. and we know that the united states and russia, they're not signatories to this treaty. ukraine is so how well ukraine justify using these landlines?
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a really nice thing that ukraine is in a good position to explain why needs these land mines, which is facing a major russian on snowed the russians themselves of mind significantly. you know, enormous thoughts of your brain and terry tree. the mining that the russians have carried out is extremely substantial to the point that you wouldn't need just one mechanism to sort of to make them, you know, prove all but you need many different mechanisms to clean up the areas that are under no russian controls. so it would make sense from a ministry point of view for the ukrainians also to use them. and i think that they have already mentioned that they would, you know, have 44 of you sort of emergency reasons to you know, to, to use and, but they've made clear that they would not deploy domain in densely populated areas . so i mean, primarily in the areas of this on the lines where at the moment they are very few
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people living in these various by the might, it might have been, i mean, it's surprising to me that this has not been done previously. because if we look at the mind seems that the russians upside down, these were one of the elements that really made very hard for ukrainians throughout the phones. now we know that russians are less concerned about c. you're not about military casualties, run the ukrainians are but still, you know, it's gotten sort of had to stop or, you know, to concentrate their bonds on certain areas right there and not so many landlines and then make them more vulnerable to attacks. let me ask you to what about the american position here um, in june of 2020 to us president by the now and stay near global ban on anti personnel land line used by the united states. so what do you think prompted this shifting policy? i mean, we've been seeing a lot of shifting and his policies in the past week when i think not
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just the americans, but to those of our score, you know, a phone ring, these will very close. see on many, you know, made me commentators. we're, we're coming to realize that, i mean, some of these constraints are the same applies to cluster bones. you know, in theory it's, it's a very good it's, it's a very important, you know, advancement when we try to band vase these kind of munitions, cluster bombs, long lines because of the impact that they have on civilians are especially non mine's many years often so. so they have a name, but for example, on the use of now i'm done agriculture. but when you are a boy, you know, there are moments when, if you do not employed these kind of weapons, you are a disadvantage. i'm now ukraine has limited, you know, limited weaponry. so i think that the kind of work for me that they can use unfortunately despite the challenges you know, mind play to their advantage on the long term might say bundle does you bring
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a large so we need to see if they send the perspectives, the broad context of okay, don't metella it's i got the most out from kings college, london is always we appreciate your time in your analysis. thank you. are, let's take a look down some of the other stories that are making headlines around the world. rushes parliament has bank legislation banning the promotion of what he calls child free. lifestar lawmakers also blocked russian children being adopted by citizens of countries that allowed gender transitioning. it's the latest in the series of laws promoting what the kremlin calls, traditional family values. a german national has been arrested in rushes. colleen inc. rod exclaimed on sabotage, charges rushes f s. b intelligence service said the man was implicated in an explosion at a gas facility. in march rush, i have seen a spike and people charged with sabotage, treason and terrorism. since the invasion of ukraine. in february of 2022,
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the united states has vetoed a united nations security council resolution calling for an immediate cease fire in gaza because it did not call for the release of hostages. the council voted $14.00 to $1.00 in favor, but the usb to admit that it was not a adopt. uganda is opposition leader. his decision has appeared in court, accused of compromising national security and was apparently abducted days earlier during a book launch in neighboring kenya writes groups of express outrage over his disappearance . a seizure denies the charge. the authorities in south africa are involved in a weeks long stand off. it's a mine that's no longer in use. police have cut off food in water supplies for sale and hundreds of illegal miners who are searching for left over gold. it's not clear
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whether the men are trapped or whether they're refusing to come out and face arrest . the w diane hawker reports now from that. a banded by to columbus has down. this whole hundreds of mine will because of the need to check. the mine is a cold, so i'm, as i'm us loosely translated to mean those we're trying on the operate as part of unlicensed mining syndicates. they often stay underground for months at a time relying on food deliveries from local businesses and family members. now police have cut those supplies and clothes. the other exits in an attempt to force the mind is above ground. police say this is part of why the plan to cook violent crime, which they say is driven by legal minus at this particular area where we are at one
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point in the past, did we picked up about 10 to bodies of these indigo minus that had been fighting, these are the over the tests. so, um we, we, we, we came with this is, i told you to say, let's put a stop to all these in this, it's my make to the teeth because they ease that proof when we do get the crime statistics that shows that areas where they easily go mining operations based bound to have high incidence and high levels of crimes. but relatives of those trip underground have a different view saying the family members are just trying to make a living. this woman trouble, 200 kilometers, to find out with the husband has made it out alive. she hasn't heard from him in 2 months and fears the worst. i haven't heard anything about what's going on and around. i'm hoping that someone will be able to give me some information
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until tuesday community workers and mine is had been coordinating or risk you if it they've been using basic tools groups, a police and this mutual thought it's a difficult, i'm extremely slow process and they say that they only able to bring up one person at a time. that's why community members are hoping that the government's risk keeps in very quickly and that they are able to start the risk of being larger groups of 5 to 6 width is at a time the government risk process could take a few days to efficiently get underway. risky workers must bring in heavy equipment and see a way of rebel from the site. earlier i asked our very own, diane hawker, whether the illegal miners, or actually tramped well brain to depends on who you speak to the police here in
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south africa, of the belief that the miners are not trapped and that they should be able to get out of the mind independently in the hope that the police will be able to arrest them very soon off to it. and you saw in that package there's quite a lot of police surrounding that exit. and that's because they've closed both of the entrance ways into that same maze. of minds, so that is really one of the only exits to that mind when you speak to the community members. they have family members, and those who have been conducting this risk commission. they say that the miners have been underground for too long without water and food and many of them a week. and that's why they characterize them as being trapped, as opposed to just hiding or trying to avoid arrest. yeah it's, it's amazing that people would risk their lives at all to go inside in a band. and mine is
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a band and mine site. i'm assuming they're doing that because they think that there is still enough gold left that it makes it worth while. i mean, is this a profitable endeavor? it certainly is a profitable endeavor, and we see that from the fact that they are illegal mining operations all over the country. in fact, the police have said that they are at least 7 of the 9 provinces in south africa. they've identified illegal mining operations or in this use mine shots. the reason that these illegal mine is believe that the is gold underground is because they actually come from the they have previously with many of them have previously worked full, legitimate mining organizations have even lift, backed employment or been let go all through other retrenchment, processes and they, oh, quite familiar with the underground situation. of course,
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in this instance, it's a different story because the circumstances are different. they are mainly using a rudimentary tools as opposed to, you know, lodge a mining equipment. and the really the main, a cost in this endeavor is the cost of paying these labor is so when the illegal mining syndicates look at the situation, that is a financial benefit to them and as well to these workers for risking the lives going underground. yeah, definitely a big price to be paid for. sure. the w diane hawker with the leaves tonight from johannesburg. diane, thank us. and before we go, his reminder, now of our top story, ukraine is dismiss mornings of a major russian missile attack is a psychological warfare operation. stage by the kremlin, the u. s. and other western nations close to their embassies and keep in response to the threats. georgia dw news. i'll be back at the top of the hour with more of
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