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to the following about what's going on in the story. instead of being discussed across the continent, dw, and use africa every friday on the w, the, or the outgoing by the administrative major policy shifts in the last week. it allowed ukraine to fire attack, them's ballistic missiles across the border and targets in russia. and it's just decided the issue, ukraine with anti personnel mines a weapon scene. critically and much of the world. how much of this is dictated by the wars progress? ukraine is very much on the back foot on the battlefield and that's despite $60000000000.00 of us military aid in the past few years. in 2 months, donald trump will be us president again, and he's threatening to cut off ukraine. can job i, can you do anything today that will help ukraine survive after tomorrow?
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i bring golf berlin. this is the day. the largest military in europe invaded its neighbor, who had a much smaller pat inventory, much less capability. i think the entire u. s. congress was standing with us. we are committed to using that full authority that congress has allotted to us russia. you're not to go to your work together to challenge the existing international order. the only way we can do that also is to make sure that our shelves are, are fully vac felton stock. the strengths of the timeframe for the case is possible thanks to the incredible support of the united states. millions of americans united against you also coming up to the latest from the you in
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climate conference where china is a leader in green technology and greenhouse gas emissions. in the past year, 2 or 3 years, we still see new approval, soft coal power plants is starting to slow down fetch, single absolutes, 10, it's increasing which of our viewers watching on tv, as in the united states, into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with how to win a war in ukraine when the clock, the russian military and most likely the next us presidents are all against you. when russian forces began their full scale invasion of ukraine and february 2022. cape was counting on support from us president biden in the form of money and weapons within a $1000.00 days and $60000000000.00 later ukraine is bracing for all of that to change. in just 2 months, donald trump will return to the white house as us president. it will mark the end
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of jo biden's time in the office, and if trump keeps his word, it will be the beginning of the end of america is a to ukraine. trump won the election on a promise to spend money on america 1st, and to end the war in ukraine and to do it in 24 hours before that happens in what appears to be some t last minute policy shifts. us president biden has given the green light to ukraine's military to use american attack comes missiles inside russia. and today the us said that it will supply ukraine with anti personnel land mines. here's the us defense secretary there fabricating their own in our personal land mines. right now, the land mines that we would look to, to provide them with the landlines that, that are not persistent. you know, we can, we can control when they were a self self activate, self designate in the and that makes it a, you know, farm. ready or
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a site for eventually then the things that they are creating on their own. it was the kremlin, is accusing biting of escalating the conflict and with his presidency quickly ending what can bite and do to make ukraine more resilient against both vladimir fulton and donald trump. we're talking about that my 1st guess tonight is david shirley pack. he's a senior re defense researcher at rand. that's a us policy. think tank. he joins me to. not from arlington, virginia, david, it's good to have you on the program these land binds. let me ask you about these 1st they are, what is the term? no, i'm persistent landlines. what does that mean? well, i'm like the land mines that we're used to thinking about that. you put it in the ground and they stay there forever until someone sufficiently skilled can remove them and take them away. non persist in mines are designed to either designate themselves after a period of time or to itself,
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diffuse themselves after some period of time. so that they, they are much safer in the long run. as secretary austin said, the decision by the us to provide these minds to ukraine. is that a sign that the battlefield situation for ukraine is becoming increasingly desperate? but i think that it's clear that ukraine has been on the defensive and their delicate position has been deteriorating in recent weeks. land mines, properly employed, and our personal minds properly employed and be effective in helping maintain a defensive wine to protect a defensive position. and potentially can slow an enemy's advance, they won't stop it. they are wonder, they will. uh, if, if,
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if used correctly it's covered by fire, which means every artillery or direct fire weapons that can engage targets that become entangled in the mind, builds that can be very effective in slowing an adversary and then helping inflict loss on them. they won't stop reports save it. ukraine is also used a british storm, a shadow cruise missile against targets in russia. and after the use of these us made attack comes, do we know how many of these weapons ukraine has and how many would be needed to make a significant difference to? well, we know that however many they have is not enough to make a significant difference. press reports, i've seen suggest that they have required on the order of 50 a tac them's, i don't have a number for a storm shadow, but i'm guessing is probably not
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a much larger. these are weapons that were designed to be used by the doesn't in an engagement. for example, the report i read said that 6 or 7 a tech comes, we're using the attack on our russian ammunition depot. and that sort of the number you need to be able to use in an attack against a particular target. these records are accurate, but they don't necessarily have a gigantic payload. so you need to use several of them to ensure covering the target area. so if you crane has just the one kind and 50 or a 100 of another, that will be enough to engage targets that will be enough to do some damage may be enough to inflict loss on the russians. it will not be enough to dramatically reshape the battlefield. the, these anti personnel mines the use of attack comes. these are 2 major policy shifts
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for the bite administration. is this purely a response to the military situation, including russian escalation, by deploying north korean troops? do you think i or i think it's a combination of the 2 things you talked about in your introduction. i think that there are concerns about the ukrainian position is weakening on the ground and that steps are needed to help reinforce their self defense capabilities. and landline certainly would be part of that. the ability to use an introduction, fires against targets inside rushing up would be part of that. but i think there's also concern that being coming us administration at least based upon then candidate trumps comments this summer and fall will be more interested in achieving are quick and early speier and ukraine in the ward between
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russian ukraine been and continuing to support ukraine to the extent that the vitamin ministration has david is late back from the us thing tank ran david, we appreciate your time and your analysis tonight. thank you. thank you for having me. will you credit present? the bottom is zalinski addressed a hearing of the us congress marking a 1000 days since the start of rushes. full scale invasion of the united states has play by far the largest role in military support for ukraine in the video address. savanski appealed for the aid to continue, and donald trump takes over as president in january. take a listen. if you, if the united states finds a way to make such strong decisive choices, our friends now and the strengths of the entire free will for the gauge to come.
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it's possible, thanks to the incredible supports of the united states. millions of americans united against evil trying to for this. all right, i want to bring in bradley bowman. now he's with the foundation for defense of democracies. brad is going to see you again. first things 1st. do you think donald trump will in the military aid for ukraine come january i would like to say no, but i can't say that confidently. and as an american who believes it's a wise investment and not charity for us to help the people of ukraine to defend themselves against this naked aggression. it pains me to say that. but if you listen to what present elect, donald trump is saying, i cannot be confident about what the future of us assistance ukraine will look like . i worry that he's going to be so eager to make a deal that he might limit or deprive you crane of the means that it needs for self
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defense. do you think we just asked what we're talking about the end of the war? do you think that that's going to mean ukraine giving up part of its territory? well, rush, i currently controls a large portion of ukrainian territory. crime me as well as large sections of the don boston elsewhere. and so, you know, if you stop the war where it currently stands, then you have russian military forces occupying large portions of ukraine. and i, i think, uh, one would reasonably conclude that that is some sort of victory for russia. someone might respond by saying, well, they, they, they, they lost a 100100 hundreds of thousands of lives in the process of writing or putting doesn't care about russian lives. this is a war of imperials aggression for him, and he will have changed international, effective international borders by force. and if that sounds like the 1st half the 20th century, it should, the us state department says that america has provided 64100000000
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dollars a military aids ukraine in the past 2 years. we're. is that money being spent? yeah, no, the the numbers from the department of defense as of november 20th of 61300000000 cost to your number and security assistance to provide it to ukraine. that's common to primary forms us and you create security assistance initiative. those are contracts for new weapons and then a presidential drop down authority where we provided ukraine weapons from the american arsenal, which are later replaced. um that, that money, you know, that's, that's got to be work 1000000000 and it sounds like a lot. but actually in the scope of the american defense budget, it's actually kind of tiny by our, our statistics as of september 30th. that's 61300000000 is roughly 2.8 percent of what the united states spent on the pentagon over the same time period. so by my account, that's a bargain. we're going body blows of the 2nd leading conventional threat we
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confront. we're helping ukraine continue to exist, and we're sending a positive return message, the beijing, you know, about half of the money the aid has come is you were mentioning from existing us military started piles, our defense contractors, are they going to be kept busy, re no re replacing we pleading those stocks, even if donald trump in support for you. great. yes. the one of the silver linings improvements forensic large scale re and vision in february 24 2022. is it highlighted for americans that are arsenal of democracy? the means by which we help other democracies under threat defend themselves was not what it used to be in that we've allowed it to a road significantly. so that provided a wake up call and we've been taking very positive steps since then. and unfortunately, there's large demand for american weapons around the world right now in the middle east and in asia. so i'm not concerned about the demand for our defense industrial base. i'm concerned that we don't have the production capacity we need. and part of
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that is that we're spending posting year over year world war 2 lows as a percentage of g d, p on defense only 3 percent. so we, time we spent less than that by that measure was 1940 before we entered world war 2 in the years, immediately proceeding 911. well, certainly you don't think there's any nervousness among contractors about orders dropping off, you know, and, and that's not really my focus. my son is helping to keep the free people who crane continue to be free. and the means by you do that is providing on the means of self defense. and unfortunately, the world is as dangerous as it's been since 1945 and coordinate. the bi partisan congressionally, mandated, national defense drags and commission. so i'm not worried about demanding for unfortunately for weapons contracts. let's look at donald trump for a moment that he has railed against what he calls warmongers. during his campaign, he railed against the lobbyist from the arms industry ahead of the 2016 election. but what does his record from his 1st term in office until the spray of
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the, during the trumps 1st term we conducted an extraordinary amount of a form military sales some of the highest we've seen in years. and i, i think that is a good thing because that helps less than the security burden on the united states . and the bottom ministration is largely continued or expanded on that. so i don't think it's a war mongering to provide a partners out democratic allies and partners, the means of self defense that helps them defend themselves more capably operate with us and reduces our security burden. so i think that's a good thing. trump did a lot, and i think you'll do even more and the 2nd term. and just before we let you go, do you think that spinning on defense? do you think we're going to see a sizable increase? i mean, do you think it's going to be important now that trumpet has one, the election is going to be important to him to increase spending all of ronald reagan? yes. yes. as we spend about 6 reagan at the height of the rag and build up,
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spend about 6 percent of g d p on this bounce. we're spending 3 percent now. i think job number one now. sure to job number one for trump is to increase those guys spending and fast because filled in combat capabilities, not defense spending detours in war and wind more and, and it takes time to build capability. so we, we better get going or out of the service on a war footing and we're not, and we'd better wake up a bradley, boeing with the foundation for defense of democracies bread as always we appreciate your time and your valuable analysis. thank you. thank you. the developing nations is say they will need not just billions, but trillions with a t trillions of dollars to help them cope with climate change. as because the asians on a new funding agreement take place at the top 29. you in climate conference, in iser by john richard countries including china, are being asked to pay up china. it has its own problems with the effects of
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climate change, the summer and china ashamed on province. a lack of water and cracked river beds has had an impact on local farmers use high or when it was built, try it out there once. it was just a couple of meters away from the rhode island. well yeah, now it's trunk and dry it up and cover about the irrigation full time, the drinking water supply for the city both depends on that scorching heat, big the region for over a month. one of the extreme weather events that happened heading china heart heat waves are being made stronger and more likely to happen due to the burning of fossil fuels that are driving climate change. most of which is currently happening in china. the biggest greenhouse gas emitter, emitting almost twice as much as the 2nd largest polluter, the united states, and other big emitters like india, the you and russia, china that use to a has attempt to control our scaling down. it's cold. how of sleep in the past. yes,
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2 or 3 years, we still see it and your approval soft coal power plants is starting to slow down. but, you know, absolute, tim, it's increasing. so that's a concern. china is high emissions. are one of the reasons negotiators from industrialized countries at the cop $29.00 climate conference. so it should be contributing to funds to help other developing countries and the reliance on fossil fuels and also to cope with the impacts of climate change. another reason is the size of china's economy, which is the 2nd largest in the world. and due to a large part on industry yet is still considered a developing country under the united nations climate change framework. while not officially contributing to a globally agreed climate finance coal of $100000000000.00. china says it has provided around $24500000000.00 in financing since 2016. and
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it has invested heavily and solar and wind power and electric cars. in 2023, the state spent more than $273000000000.00 on renewable energy, followed by europe, which spends around half of that. and then the united states, asian, oceania, and brazil. china's case also clearly shows once the climate cook solutions can make economic sense to we are develop really, really fast. it's unclear whether china has already reached peak fossil fuel emissions. but if not, it will soon. and that along with its push for green energy, will put it on a path to the carbon ization. whether it will take more financial responsibility for its growth is still up in the air. all right, let's turn now to someone who has tracked the climate change deal making back to the you ins, framework. conventional climate change in the early 19 ninety's. david victor is professor of innovation and public policy at the university of california in san
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diego. they've, it's good to have you on the program. i, i want to talk about the advocacy of these annual cop meetings just a moment. but 1st let's talk about china. it's the world's biggest greenhouse gas emitter. and it is a country that it's also dealing with the effects of those gases. can china, can it be on both sides of the coin here? i don't think they can be on both sides. the coin, the chinese are doing a lot around climate change. not so much because of climate change, they're doing it because they're worried about air pollution. they're worried about employment, about creating new industries and things like that. but a lot of that correlates with the actions that you need to kind of missions to more renewable power, more nuclear power, or energy efficiency electric vehicles and things like that. and the chinese are indeed one of the world's largest investors and clean energy today. and yet, china continues to build lots of, of, of coal per coal burning power plant. so it almost seems like it's a,
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it's the skits a frantic member of the international community when we're talking about trying to mitigate climate change. is that an accurate assessment? i think so, but that's true. i think actually for almost all the developing countries and actually many of the industrialized countries is that don't, we're not just working on climate change. they're working on a whole range of topics. you look at the india for example. also building coal fired power plants, also a world leader in deployment of solar power, worried about climate change, worried about lots of other things. and they've got to figure out how to do all of that the same time the united states. it is 2nd in the world in carbon emissions. and i'm wondering with donald trump returning to the white house is the united states. is it part of these discussions, or is it on the sidelines already as well as it's part of the conversations right now that us diplomats and actually been playing pretty constructive role in baku so
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that that's what happened last time from trump took over. my expectation is that maybe even on day one of the trump presidency is going to withdraw from the parents agreement. and frankly, i think that's a good thing because if, if they're not going to be constructive, it's better to have them out than in the middle of this process blocking consensus and generally making life hard for other diplomats to want to get real things done . if it is, can you realistically, david, if you've got a that, you know, in the mid or as large as the united states, not being part of the solution? can there be a solution? well, it is terrible. the united states is not going to play a more constructive role, where i see solace and all this is that the clean energy revolution is underway. and frankly, it doesn't matter to some degree. who's in the white house. we're going to keep the point where we're going to keep the point. so we're going to be reopening some of our nuclear plants. we're going to keep the existing of their plants open. many places in the country are actually going to fight back. i live in california the
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day after you actually what's called our governor announced that that we're going to have special session of our legislation. we're talking about all the things california is going to do to counteract trump. and so is an ideal no, but the country is not just the federal government and in that sense, i've got a little more hope. yeah. we, we all to, you know, tell our viewers. california has one of the world's largest economies. i mean, what california does it matters around the world. let me ask you about the notion of these cop meetings. this is cop 2929. and i dare say if you were to ask most people, what was the difference between cop 14 and 19 they wouldn't be able to tell you. i have all of these meetings have they've been worth the effort. i think, to some degree the cops are unavoidable. so i went, as you said, a new opener. i went to the negotiations leading of the framer commission on climate change. i went to cop one,
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which was in berlin with the cop 2 in geneva. and then i stopped going to cops until the comp and parents because the whole process of just kind of come off the rails. but what it does do that's really important, is it creates legitimacy and a kind of an umbrella under which countries didn't go off into serious actions on climate change. it would be harder for california or the federal government of united states when the federal government is run by people who care about climate change or many other countries, including in europe. it'd be harder for them to act on climate change. if there weren't some kind of a global umbrella, and that's what these cops offer is. they, they, you know, that they're kind of crazy and they're in their complexity and their legs, from the dramas and so on. but they offer, when they succeed, they offer that umbrella, and that, that a patina of legitimacy that's really important then for the real work to happen, which is technological change and policies that happen inside countries. david victor with the university of california, san diego. busy david guitar for living, we appreciate your valuable insights tonight. thank you. as always,
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thank you. and finally, hope francis says that he will canonize the catholic churches 1st, millennial and digital age st. carlo acute it's died of leukemia back in 2006 at the age of 15. he was deeply religious and he used his tech challenge to create a website that catalogs miracles and to administer several other catholic website. is it a junior, he'll be proclaimed they st in april of next year based on pope frances recognizing 2 miracles that are attributed to carla the millennial is now or is about to be a site. today continues online. you'll find this on x, also known as twitter, and on youtube that dw nearest you can follow me on social media and bring golf tv
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the salary and the conditions were good. so i decided to give it a try. gold rush in east pakistan said intending in 19 minutes on dw, the . i want to tell you something. it should have made my hand the lesser shock. i never saw that this could happen to me raising awareness of h i v n i n, and we're still in test shane silence. and we need to break out of it. i want to tell you something how to tennessee chris starts november 29th on dw. do you know which of these free industries has the highest
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