you see the rest of lawrence for 2 is really leaders and one homos leader. the court says i'm us military chief mohammed dies was responsible for the october 7th murders, torture, sexual violence, and hostage taking in israel. it also says is rarely prime minister benjamin netanyahu, and his former defense minister, your wife kalonde, used to start. but you shouldn't, has a weapon that has claimed the lives of many gods. and it added that the man knew exactly what they were doing on board golf. in berlin, this is the day, the no outrages anti israel decision will prevent us and it will not prevent me from continuing to defend our country in every way. we will not here to pressure. it is not a political decision. is that the decision of a part time? no surprise, decisive fees purely. i'm to submit the it's

a long way to justice and we're looking for the 20 most responsible on the side of justice. sometimes take much longer than bullets on palms, but at the end of the day, we have reached the point. florida also coming up ukraine's army has a problem. soldiers going a wall tonight to report on what is motivating thousands of soldiers to desert various units. because i'm not a robert, another band, it's not a murder system. now i will go to fight, just to be honest, i have no regrets. i lived a little and now my one wishes to see my mother and sister want their system into our viewers watching on tv as in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with the wheels of justice rolling toward israel and jobs that it has been more than a year since the him off terror attack on israel. it's about

a 100 to the hostages taking that day have still not been freed. israel declared war against the mos directly following that attack. the fighting continues and today, the gods, the health ministry said that the death toll have surpassed 44000. that we have no way of independently verifying that number is really into mos have accused each other of a variety of atrocities and crimes. today, accusations came from the international criminal court in the hague. after 6 months of investigations, the icpc today issued arrest warrants for israel's former defense minister. you'll have kalonde and is rarely prime minister benjamin netanyahu. and one homeless and leader mohammed diets. israel says that they killed him last summer. the court holding all 3 men responsible for the debts and sufferings seen since october, 7th of last year. in statements released by the court. it found that there were reasonable grounds to believe that nothing yahoo and galani had committed the war

crime of starvation as a method of warfare and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts. and that both individuals intentionally and knowingly deprives the civilian population in gaza, of objects indispensable to their survival, including food, water, and medicine, and medical supply. the court also found that hamas leader mohammed dies is responsible for the war crimes of murder, pro, treatment, torture, taking hostages, outrages upon personal dignity and rape and other forms of sexual violence. israel's prime minister has reacted angrily to the icy seas decision, and he gave the statement earlier. a bit didn't despise cool, has decided to assure arrest warrants against me and form a defense minister. you'll have kalonde as a model on the fundamentally unfounded accusations become. then we have it allegedly committed crimes against humanity,

but the truth is completely the opposite. this is mo, bankruptcy if i liked the natural rights of democracies to defend themselves against murderous terrorism. so, i spoke with the i c. c. 's former president chalet at bowie of suji. i asked him for his response to claims that the icpc is decision, is anti semitic. is not going to submit. take a close. it is to the spectre said, people who pay use these processes were deployed fact kind of from the political like human as a last resort. the when the i c. c was the prosecutor saying they lead us of kenya for the port selection filings in kenya. i cc was cold races to at to look in your colonialism and those that said until pep, pep is nothing new. the more intelligent thing for people to

do is to respect to international more all these people know what international tiers, but sometimes they want to uh, have you know, a grave. it's thinking that they are powerful enough to comment and international doesn't was now we see that that's not quite the case v i c c. we know reliance on state cooperation and i want to ask you as journalist, we cannot travel to garza to independently verify information that is given to us by either the adf or the mos slid, health ministry. and gotcha, for example. how does the i c c, how does it have access to the evidence that it needs to justify arrest warrants as well? this is a matter of really to the intake is also have the copies of the project. you know,

i used to be a prosecutor by so many years ago that international criminal tribunal for the lender. and they do have the copies to solve the problem. because those of these mechanisms have the ways of obtaining evidence which is not always known to the public, but eventually they do gather information. so i can come from cooperation of states that can come from the what do you see yourself, which they have of the ways of verifying and confirming that very many ways of doing that. and the witnesses who will give evidence and witnesses. so they put in and say positive law that so the ways of the group routing, the evidence is important thing here is that the judge has looked at the evidence presented. and the throw that on the basis of that, the evidence they could move forward. you know,

the situation in the world right now, you know, the limitations of, of your court. the power of the i, c, c. some have argued it has been its ability to name and shame when it issues an arrest warrant. and yet we've seen with leader such as the russian president vladimir putin with an arrest warrant is issued. he has not become the international per why of that some expected would be the result of that warrants. now we're seeing the leader of israel and a leader of hamas facing an arrest warrant. are you concerned that in the current geo political atmosphere that we live in, that the, the power of the court is being a road is by its inability to execute what it wants, or some of the, not the power of the i, c, c, d, 's, lots about naming and shaming this is about the low and the law is about the obligation of states pauses under

a $124.00 states parties to invest the people the, the i c. c. the charges of these to the restful runs to tense. so that is an obligation is a legal obligation and $124.00 states of the world. and the ice easy is obligation is to do is job its job is to prosecute people, whatever of the political incidents a political that is. and they come out of it will take care of themselves in the political step. but the crazy seat is about the law. all the matter done, we need to train is focused on pad and multics funded in the way i to say, well leave, we expanded it and they didn't well then i see see, what else is that some of the trouble the i sees even double the i c, c is the whole people that comfortable on the basis of the law,

and that must be stressed with emphasis. mister caley, a soon as you the former president of the i c. c. we appreciate you taking the time to talk to us on what it's been a very busy day. i'm sure for you. we appreciate your insights tonight as well. thank you. thank you very much for joining me now from the hague. is lawyer. yeah, i'll be honest with you as much. she represents hundreds of his really victims of the october 7th. i'm us. terror attacks. yeah. oh, it's good to have you on the program tonight. i'm 1st the i'd like to get your reaction to the decision by the international criminal court today. are these arrest warrants, are they part of the justice that you are seeking for your clients? i yes, thank you for having me. brent. absolutely. so today is the international crew, of course, at the hague issue to separate decisions. i'd like to underline mass, because that is significant for the victims. i'm representing the victims of the already a mazda tax began on the 7th of october, but that are still continuing,

as long as hostages are in gaza. and victims are raising their eyes towards their, their, you know, hope towards this course. so that they are recognized as victims of international crimes, war crimes and crimes against humanity. so this is definitely a very significant decision in arrest warrants against mohammed days. who is ro thinks is probably presumably dead. however, for the court, this is a valid arrest warrant at the same times in a separate decision, the international criminal court issued to arrest warrants one against prime minister and it's in the out and the other against former defense minister you'll have guidelines. and of course, this decision is, is received with mixed feelings, of course, but the direct victims are, you know, they're, they're very hopeful with the 1st decision against mohammed dave for, because if crime has to be recognized. yeah, i want to pick up on that. i,

i can imagine that the rest boards for 2 is really leaders reverberate differently for your clients than the arrest warrant for the homeless military chief mohammed dates. the absolute easy, the thing is to understand is that the, the isis. ready prosecutor's initial declaration in may that he is requesting 5 arrest warrants 3 against hamas leaders and 2 against the heads of you know, heads a is really figures was the, the situation was the statement was made in the same dress. and this decision, although i could understand the pressures and so forth, was received with a very big regrets by myself and my clients, the victims, the direct victims of hamas attacks. because in fact, there, it was obvious that the effects would be a 100 percent focused against an arrest warrant requested against a democracy that is in war against a head of state. that is not

a state party of the international criminal court. whereas if the decision, the statement would have, you know, what am, if he could have been declared of an intention to issue an arrest for and this against 3. i'm us leaders and a 9 am um, you know, one and 10 for the other requests. and then my victims would have had their, our, and today they have their, our, and i really hope that we continue with this with these separate these separate procedures because these are separate facts, separate evidence and different victims. well, yeah, let me ask you, was there any way that you could ask, were you able to ask the court and maybe when it didn't make it to announcement about these arrest warrants very that it could announce them separately. i mean, is there any type of legal procedure that allows you to make that request? that is, that was exactly my request. on the 12th of august, i issued the views and concerns that i issued the invitation of the court. i issued views and concerns of victims of a mass attacks and we asked to just as be made,

we asked the justice be seen to be made. and we asked that any decision be founded and be issued separately to get an answer. and well, you know, the answer is really by actions. we see that the, the, that the, the pre trial chamber followed our request. we are the only ones who requested this . and the decisions are, are published in 2 separate press releases, which i think is already significant. even though the timing is identical, nevertheless, at least we're making a step forward. yeah, yeah, your point is won't take it i. i saw the 2 separate press releases that you are correct. the news of the day definitely starts with the rest warrant for a sitting is really prime minister. i'm wondering how did your client see the rest of the warrant for mohammed dave in view of the fact that israel says that he's dead and from us and says, he's not dead. let me ask if,

let's assume he is dead. then would this be more sim, symbolism for your clients? i mean, what kind of justice can be reached if he's dead or it's a valid concern, but many victims share and if he is dead, then these arrest warrants would not fly where they would be. um they would be withdrawn, however, from the very 1st days we know that the road to just this is a long way forward when the prosecutor declared his his intention to request the arrest warrants against the 3 hamas leaders. we were very happy, very, you know, it was a moments of a milestone reached. however, for us it was already symbolic, and it was definitely not the final. and we want the 20 most responsible. how must be there's those who are sitting in europe, who are um, you know, very sitting very happily and contentedly while their own people are dying and guys

because of their decisions and so much bloodshed. so these are the people we want. we know we knew that the heads, you know, the, the 1st 3 they had very little chances of arriving to the adventure of the accused . however, the others sitting much more comfortably. um, you know, we're aiming advice and we have amazing experts that our sides were committed as much as we are for this long journey of justice. are you expecting that more arrest warrants to be issued for those other from us leaders? absolutely. we've been in direct contact with the investigators of the r c. c. since october, when we issued the 1st complaint that was communicated in the name of some us victims to the court of the i c. and since then we've been in direct contact. we are transferring evidence the to this day the prosecutor has not investigated on the ground and so that, that can replace a visit on the ground investigation on ground. but our active involvement is

substantial. and we've been accompanying key witnesses, survivors as well to provide testimony to the court. i'm sure you're aware that the reaction from the it's really prime minister today. he said that these arrest warrants were anti semitic, implying that the i c. c has a more compassionate ear for the palestinians than it does for the is really victims of the terror attacks. and i want your opinion, what have you experienced? they are the i c, c, in terms of the court. treating all people all parties equally. the us look what is in the hearts and minds of people is difficult to to know. also judges sitting in domestic chords. however, let us recognize that this is a, you know, a decision with gravity, a severe gravity to be named as a suspects interest warranty. you know,

someone who has an arrest warrant against for crimes against humanity, war crimes, for someone with our history. and our identity, you know, is red is, is very grave and it's in his cannot be undermined. so it is very understandable that these arrest warrants are received even with shots and har by the is ready population. and this is true, despite the fact that n as rose society is not equal on it spends and on his positions on the ceasefire or the need of words and so forth. there was no doubt that this war was imposed on us. we did not choose it, it is a war of no choice, but in terms of the length of the war and, and, and so forth. and the needs and the, the state of the hostages. there is, of course, if anyone is looking at the street in this row, then there is, of course, you know, great disruption and an ease within is really society. let me ask you, let me, let me. yeah. let me ask you, i just spoke with the former president of the i c c. and i asked him this question . he said that the, the response i have absolutely nothing to do with anti semitism. he says that the

decision was not anti semitic. absolutely not. he said, can you say the same thing? do you feel that these decisions today, these arrest warrants were issued with the anti semitism involved? or i think this is a court of law. there's procedures. there is a level of evidence and the procedure for arrest warrants are only one sided, their exports a only the prosecution and the chambers, the, the judges and the procedure to sit together. and there's no defense at all. this is the same in every case. i don't, i'm not convinced personally that under said mit is a is that the root of this? and i also don't think that the response is to deal with anti semitism. the response needs to be substantial legal. there are good legal arguments. the court practically said that, even though it hasn't given the final word on this, that it is not convinced that israel has the enquiry commission in place or the

capacity or the will to try and to investigate and to try the same person's for the same conduct as the prisons under the focus report, so the response from israel is it, it can be very actually efficient. um, it needs to be relevant. besides that, there will always be this politicize the reality. yeah. and i see it from the side of the victims. i represent, and i really working very, we're all working hard for, for us to see the victims and not all of this the, you know, a sensitively politicized situation. reality. we understand. yeah. of the us and we appreciate you taking the time to to talk with us. i know it's been a very, very busy day for you as well as for your clients. thank you. thank you. i appreciate it. thank you very much. ukraine is struggling to feel its ranks in part because of a sharp increase in the number of these versions. more than $30000.00 soldiers have

gone a while this year alone will now ukraine has to criminalize the offense for 1st time offenders if they return to duty, dw myisha jobs, while reports for cause. it's been 18 months since on the condo held a weapon windrush, i launched its full scale invasion in february 2022. could have gone to fort them and certainly he thought he says, oh you're into the war. he handed his weapons to his commando and left my little brother. my brother's good, so frantic, his condition has become dangerous. he had even become a threat to my neighbors, so i went home and apart from my brother and mother, but i have no one else, wasn't any money for an exam though, had no lead the way to apply to go his come on to had to deport him for absence without leave. something which at the time could have put on its on the in prison for up to 10 yards. and its not just him. cases of absence without leave have

tripled so far the fill. in august, the ukrainian fall lament decriminalized steel fence for 1st time offenders if did it to him to fight that includes arctic sound of now he's trying to join the 47th brigade, which is actively reaching out to dessert of telling them it's ok to make mistakes and that the brigade would welcome them back. loyal oaks on the hotel often represents such strong away soldiers. she says she's herded old men who knew they were being sent to the dead. men who had breakdowns mental simply wanted to go home after 2 wheels on the front. so the come to light zation, she says, was the one the option use this question. so there was such a large number of these crimes embedded in a military unit and assertion that they did not have time to process all of them

the corporate to walk. so case case has made it to this court and keith, he was caught joining a random documents check over to your office to he left his position on the front line. he was serving in the opportunity unit income, of course, struggling with tronic back been then he heard his wife wanted a divorce and he walked away from his unit for you. he stayed in a church and worked on jobs. he didn't tell his mother that he had deserted when the police stopped and invested him. he did not resist excuse, i'm not a robert now the band is not a murderer. now i will go to fight just to be honest. i have no regrets. i lived a little and now my one wishes to see my mother and sister went to assist the judge don. so get permission to join the military and avoid prosecution. he must strict on within 72 hours. he tells us why he think so many people leave. could

use the command. you don't care anymore. they don't go to the front line with us. just a far away from us. only a few go with their unit, presenting time only returning for my family. you see to but these are the only people i really go back to war for. i don't worry about myself. i don't want them to worry slow. on the front lines. discussion is an uncomfortable subject so that she had sam. yes, could be more useful leaving your unit is a stigma for a minute. remind up a when of a corner is whatever the task is assigned to a unit, and this allows us to, we have to get it out loud enough so that you no matter if a man, but does us the unit is wounded or dies to maybe it's sort of door, so when a task has to be carried out by a smaller number of people. so we feel the pressure,

they talk maybe troy office us agree, the things need to change. the tell us more bits of leave, more medical attention and better communication when have finally, what makes the ordinary extraordinary? i piece of contemporary art entitled comedian is no more than a banana duct taped to a wall on wednesday night. this controversial piece of perishable fruit by marie to cut the lawn, wind up for auction at sotheby's in new york. and the winning bid became from justin soon. chinese collector and founder of the crypto currency platform trawn. but caesar included, he'll pay a final total of $6200000.00. i'm selling it here. the world's most expensive phenomena. at 5000200 tests. at

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