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that maybe my voice will be heard back spring to our la seeking justice for the victims of sam assigned this week on d. w. the . this is dw new years live and from berlin tonight, growing concerns over a new russian web. and a missile the kremlin says, can fit the targets across europe. president, by the way, approach it has ordered mass production of the weapon, which was used for the 1st time this week to attack ukraine. also coming up in the year when climate conference in either by john goes into overtime, the rich countries have made a last minute pledge of $250000000000.00 a year to help developing nations deal with global warming. and the world responding to that arrest warrant issued yesterday for israel's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu and war crimes. in garza, some governments have rejected the charges, other se netanyahu should be arrested,
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the unborn golf to those of you watching on cbs in the united states. and to all of you around the world, welcome russia's president vladimir putin has ordered mass production of a new type of ballistic missile and missile that was used for the 1st time this week to strike ukraine. nato and ukraine had called emergency talks over the attack . boots and says he plans to put the medium range or rush nic missile into service under combat conditions. a, c, c, t, v captured multiple strikes on the pro ukrainian city where russia says it tested a new medium range, hypersonic ballistic missile, named the arrest snake, or hazelnut tree. the kremlin says the weapon can move 10 times faster than the speed of sound. divide air defenses. the missiles at tech targets the
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speed of the muffler 10 and then the, the, this is 2.5 to 3 kilometers per 2nd. gives me the world's most modern air defense systems. and the american m. p missile defenses in europe, count out to intercept such missiles loop in the i get the median. what? according to ukranian intelligence, the missile was launched from russia's asked to con region, taking 15 minutes to travel around 700 kilometers to meet pro. the range of the arrest snake has not been confirmed, but reports say it could reach up to 5000 kilometers, allowing russia to hit most of europe. that's less than an intercontinental missile, which can fly more than 5500 kilometers. i can confirm that russia did launch an experimental intermediate range ballistic missile. this i or b m, was based on russia's r, s 26 roo badge intercontinental ballistic missile model. in terms of
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a notifications to the united states, the united states was pre notified briefly before the launch through nuclear risk reduction channels. the nissan launched on the pro was carry unconventional warheads, but it resembled a ballistic missile costing more than $10000000.00, which was designed to carry nuclear warheads and has never been used in war before . it makes no military sense to use such an expensive missile on a ukrainian city were, let's say it's under m would have done the job. let's say the intention was to send a clear signal to ukraine outlets allies. i think it's more of a nudge to european capitals because dismissal would be very much capable of reaching most of them was a substantial payload. the rush and it gives the latest russian hypersonic weapon to be tested in baffling ukraine. change all and they're called missiles already
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and use they have prove destructive, but not completely and solvable as must go claimed ukraine has managed to shoot some of them down. i spoke with maria on the boot around a military analyst at harvard university and i asked her how different pollutants threat is this top? well, the difference is that this is a new system, right? so this was a big reveal of this new missile, which could well be, as we heard, the american officials say a refurbishment of an older system that was more bold, some time ago and just renamed as ideas she needed from the previous sort of yes, this was a clear signal and it's hard to disagree that this is more of a symbolic move, put and had to respond somehow to the decision of the bite and in ministration to allow ukraine to use its weapons. american weapons attack guns on the russian
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territory. and this was it, and you know, we use this as an opportunity to reveal this new system. so this is a one off more 100. do you think this is a one off or do you think that ukraine should be asking nater to help it prepare to have better air defense systems against the arrest as well? ukraine shouldn't be getting nato for button better air defenses for a lot of other reasons. other than just a, a, this a re, additional missile, i mean, you create in a critical infrastructure has come under repeated barrage is by other types of missiles and it's really hanging on for dear life and facing a very difficult winter. so yes, ukraine shouldn't be ukraine's of air defense or shouldn't be bolstered significantly, not just on account of additional. but the significance of this might be that this might be only in a nuclear only system. so this was sort of
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a symbolic nuclear signal. we still don't know enough about the missiles capability is whether it's a social dual capable system. so it comes both income with conventional forehead and then nuclear warhead, like many other systems that russia has already been using in ukraine. so both control and it's condor. and also co caliber missiles, they all come in these nuclear modifications as well. but this could be a nuclear specific missile and that would be a clear. so again, one of the, one of the nuclear saber rattling types of signals then put in a like to send it we, there's a dismissal, could hit targets throughout europe. i mean, if berlin in paris could be targeted as easily as dundee pro, this ups, the stakes significantly for nato doesn't. it certainly does. but russia has many other capable systems of which we know that i'm very well capable of targeting
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paris and berlin. this is just the land based system that had previously would have been prohibited under the treaty about intermediate nuclear forces. and in europe, the treaty that is now default. so reference free to develop these based systems. but in terms of air base of the launch missiles, russia has retained that capability throughout the years. and so then the controls that have been using ukraine era along the ballistic missile that could very well a range of berlin. and so good um, you know, other systems as well. mm hm. what about the finding on the ground on the front lines right now, the situation and meet the situation is not looking good for ukrainian forces isn't unfortunately, it is a, i mean ukraine ended up being drugged into the kind of war, a very infantry in terms of war that is inherently disadvantages to ukraine. ukraine has smaller human resources and other resources to find this kind of war.
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so the only thing that could somehow balance out of the situation is really, you know, building ukraine shocks, full of weapons, and longer range capabilities that could try and balance out the situation. we have heard from some european leaders, i'm thinking of the most recently, the photos prime minister donald task that the conflict and ukraine is now entering a decisive phase. how do you see it? is? it is decisive in the sense that there's a, in a way, a significant date that's approaching and that's an immigration on january 20th of, of america's new president. donald trump will, has a very, just a distinctive view of the way he wants to handle this war. and has promised a swift and decisive miraculous em to it. we'll see, you know,
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these things that are easier to say then to do. but what, what we see on the ground is that both sides are really intensifying their efforts and trying to achieve as much as much gain to preserve as much as possible on ukraine in start before they're forced to some kind of settlement on negotiation. so basically they're improving as much as they can. they're negotiating positions when trump comes to power. and i mean, i obviously, i don't want you to put yourself in the mind invited me to put you in, but, but we're, let's pretend that we are in the room with them right now. the fact that we're talking about a new type of missile, the fact that we're talking about nuclear saber rattling that doesn't speak well for donald trump's promise that he could in the war in ukraine in 24 hours. does it piece? it certainly does not. as i said it's, it's a lot easier to make these statements then to actually try and, and this war in
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a sustainable way of, you know, it's a very complicated situation and doesn't seem the put and wants to end this war. other than, you know, on his conditions, which would be in the total surrender of ukraine. so the, i really don't see what the leverage donald trump thinks he has over put. and he has a lot of leverage over ukraine that you can withhold the military assistance and so forth. but what leverage he thinks he has over put in to try and even get him to a negotiating table of something that could be called a negotiations of not as a render. that that seems to be very doubtful for me. indeed. military analysts, mariana boot around. we appreciate your time and your valuable analysis tonight. thank you. i went out to buck who either by john, where the human climate conference has gone into overtime. delegates are considering a new proposal, which would see industrialized countries, a massively more to tackle global warming. the plan calls for wealthy nations to
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pay $250000000000.00 per year to help developing economies. it also says a broader goal of raising $1.00 trillion dollars annually by 2035. but it does not specify whether countries such as china and the oil producing gulf states should also pay. island countries say the proposal is a slap in the face of small, every con will be interest, our climate report, or just in the studio with me now it's last minute. negotiation is going on right now. we're already waiting. now. what kind of reactions are we getting into this last minute proposal? so the countryside would be receiving these donations. the developing countries are absolutely shocked, but that they feel like they're being low balled by this offer. i mean, you said it is like a 250000000000 a year. yeah, i mean, as i said, it is a huge jump from the 100000000000 where we're at right now. but what they were actually asking for was one trillion per year. so this money that we're talking
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about, it's supposed to help these countries not only no flights of extreme weather when it hits them so floods. wildfire is all that type of stuff. it's also supposed to help them set up economies or build off of renewable energy. and not fossil fuels, so it's also forward looking in that way. and they just think the 250000000000 is not enough. they've called it a flap in the face. they say it's a kind of hello. can you go type of offer? so in the money would also be used to help them relocate people, right. especially for these island countries that could actually be underwater in a few years. absolutely it's. it's also really complicated to talk about this because the money can go in so many different directions. the only thing that these countries agree on is that it's definitely not enough, although some experts are saying that it, it's of course, much less than they asked for. but it's a good number as a start that you know now. now they're behind the scenes arguing about it. is it just about the money here, beatrice? or are there other holdups?
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yeah, so really what makes the cop so great as also what makes it so complicated? so what's great about the cost is that every country have a say. so that means that the small island nation can also interfere in these agreements and not just, you know, the, the, the big powers. but that's also what makes it so complicated right now we have almost 200 countries fighting about the number. how, how much money should it be? another big problem is that they want assurances that this money, whatever number they agree on, will also i should be paid out. mm hm. because a $100000000000.00 the countries are receiving right now. the promise was that they were going to get it by 2020. and that promise was only really came into effect by 2022. so not only do they feel like they're being like schedule is behind schedule, and they're afraid it might happen again. i'm wondering what a country like china, where does it fit in here because it, china is still considering what an emerging developing economy and yet it is a developed economy now, and it's also the world's biggest emitter of greenhouse gas emissions. so is it
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going to be paying in to the fund or is it going to be receiving money? yeah, so the role of china is a huge 2nd point has been a huge sticking point in these negotiations. and because yeah, lots of people argue it's cause a fight as a developing nation because it does have a lot of money. it's the 2nd biggest economy, but the disparities are still really great in the country. there's lots of people living under the poverty line. but yeah, as i said there emitting the most so the donor countries want help from economy like china. so what the new text is saying, it's not putting it in the category of donors, but it is opening the option to expand the donor base and make a, you know, voluntary, you know, allow voluntary donations from countries like china, but also the gulf nation is yeah, do of nations which of course, are sources of a lot of the fossil fuels that are causing the problem right now. but voluntary payments, i mean, does anyone really believe that you can rely on
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a system of voluntary payments? i think that's kind of probably what people are discussing behind the scenes now as well. lots of donors want there to be assurances that the, you know, that it's a voluntary that it's mandatory for them to participate. right now it's building blocks. you know, you've got to start somewhere. i think that's the 1st of all right. clement, before the interest is tomorrow, it's good to have you here in the studio. i know it's been a long week. it's been a long day. yeah, thank you. thank you. well, what reaction has been mixed to the rest war that was issued for israel as a prime minister benjamin netanyahu yesterday for war crimes in gossip, israel and the us have rejected the charges brought by the international criminal court. but some government say these rarely leader would be arrested if he injured to their countries, hunger, res, prime minister, victor, or bon, has invited them yahoo to visit hungary saying that the court's decision would have no effect. here in germany, the government has pointed to its historical relationship with israel and says that it will take no further action unless and that's in you all who plans to visit. i
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know that on the one hand, we very much support the importance of the international criminal court. i mean, i'm going to take a seat ticket funds will attend. on the other hand, we have our historical responsibility. these, our statements should be regarded in light of these 2 aspects and seen on that basis. i find it hard to imagine that we would carry out arrests in germany to see all these. i couldn't log in for hostile induction police, jim. so germany is backing the court in principle at the same time being reluctant to enforce the arrest warrants. w political corresponding jenny graham told me how berlin might handle this dilemma. it really would only be an issue explanation. yahoo or his former defense minister came here. now, you know, his last visit was in march of 2023, about 6 months before october 7th. and there have in the past being occasions where
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the german is really cabinets of met for exchanges. the last one of those was in 2018 there. not a regular thing that happens very rarely and nothing like that is on the cards any time soon. so really at the moment, it's just a case of, of, of wait and see. for more on this i'm going to bring in now antonio's done a couple of. he's a professor of international law at oxford university. joining me tonight from geneva, switzerland, professor, it's good to have you. with this world, leaders are divided over the icy sees arrest warrants. may i ask you, how likely is it that benjamin netanyahu will ever stand trial before the icpc, as well as these kinds of assessments are our hearts to make. um, i suppose it is unlikely you probably know for sample future, but nobody can be a certain what's events green so um you know,
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it would, it would involve all sorts of talk to the constellations like him traveling to a state that these parts into the i c, c that states and executing the arrest warrants proper, defend um and uh and sending him to the hague when he is not inconceivable. but it does make nothing y'all whose world much smaller doesn't it? i mean, talk to me about how this arrest warrant could possibly change things for him personally. well, i think, i think it has already changed the things for both a him and a former minister guidelines comes interviewed because there are 124 states that are partners to the eyes. you see, all these, the, all these states are bound by 3 d to execute a warrant. if either of these 2 persons find themselves within the territory of those states to put it simply and so effectively,
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the largest parts of the world is no longer accessible to either net. i'm yahoo or got left me. there has been some criticism of the court and the fact that it cannot execute the arrest warrants that issues. would you agree with me that one of the powers of the icpc is simply its ability to name and shame with these are risk warns a well known court ever has the ability to enforce annual victorians. we rely on and on other types of forces for enforcement of war. and so the courts are just people who sit behind dimensions and, and build up pieces which are worth writing on that. but you don't have a law enforcement infrastructure that you would have in the nation state, for example. you don't have police officers to go and actually carry out the arrest . but you have to understand that these are obligations on state and even in the
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domestic you've got an order, you can look up, police officers often go and are as euro states. but the fact that germany complies with the decisions of the german constitution, of course is not because the german police is going to arrest the german state because the german state is african island. so always when we deal with the state where we're not, we're not dealing with the physical entity states comply with federal because the, the implications are not complying with the little. um would be inconceivable. um, so, and the idea that the states with the flat out and this will be um, a, uh, an arrest floor. and by the i see, see, we have very, very significantly invitations for that states. and, you know, for the position that it takes with respect to the rule of law enforcement, what does it tell you? the fact that we have seen some countries, particularly here in europe, be somewhat ambivalent to the fact that they are obliged to carry out these arrest
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warrants if this and you know who were to, to be on their territory. i mean, for example, we'd see the prime minister of hungary, victor, or bon, inviting it in yahoo to his country saying that this arrest warrant would not affect anything as well. i, i think i once the comment on any specific country because it has to do with whether they are parties to the statute and so on until 4 i would just say that's um, the last statement that i've seen from the, from the states parties to the ice as you started up being very careful they, i've confirmed that they, we comply with the little that thing we comply with frontier your applications. but they have made very careful statements about the fact that this is and not necessarily something that is on the cards. right. now because of course, if neither of these 2 persons ever find themselves in the territory or forms the state parties, the question doesn't say it doesn't even dies. so
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a lot of states will not necessarily deal with it. at this stage. professor antonio's, it's on a couple us, we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us on this friday night. thank you. thank as well now to south africa where hundreds of workers are hold up in a band in gold bind for a 3rd week. police cut off supplies to force them out, but supporters of mail started sending down. food and water worried relatives had gathered at the entrance to the mine. authorities say the men are refusing to come out because they face arrest. dw is diane hawker reports tonight from still fun. k t is of english from a mother and wife. nosy point to these 2 sons and husband are among the legal mind. his parents, he tripped underground the last time they received food was on
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sack today. so the best, the main thing we're asking the government for is to send them food. they need to survive on the ground. if they don't eat, how will they stay alive? how will they suffice? good, good, good. good. good. um, the last friday the south african government announced it was planning a risk emission bucks a week later. these been little movement and little explanation about what is causing the delay. so i will give the exec timeframe, but something will be done and some things being done. so people must just be patient, give us time so that we are able to do to them it. police say those involved in the legal mining operations should be prosecuted and that's why they initially blocked
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shots entrances and food supplies from reaching those underground. i know my volunteers have pulled 11 people out from the school fontaine mine so far using ropes and police to bring them to the surface of the i ended up being is one of those risk you in this way. he says those list underground of feeding the 6 of the police blockade, one thing right, color appointed to perform from long as if, when i was rescued, sub on the people that were left behind were in bad shape. bicycle seems they were in very bad shape, not into that. and then of course the cause of buying something wrong medication. and i'd run out because the police had closed off all communication with those above ground and mistaking this 6 weeks. so there was no food left is and we ran out of water from the say, some people were very weak, you know, made me say as many people from towns around disuse,
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minds rely on the legal mining to get by many a form of mine. workers who know where to find the gold sourcing of understands me . say that by one means we try our hardest to get jobs in the formal sector. but because there are too few jobs in south africa, we end up living this life of a legal mining c, c in delta c. it's not something we want to do. it's not that circumstances have pushed us in this direction to see what is push it out. of to spending 2 months underground. okay. and almost not making it out of our skin. this simple question has been risking. would you go back on the ground? low i t y eve, what i'm going to but i see it if the police operation stops and they allow us to go back by that we'll see about it. if they say they won't arrest us and let us work by safeguards on, i would go back immediately. we'll just have bins. then i'm, we're a no one. what was the police say they've detained 15000 ego minus since december
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2023. and those numbers keep growing, assigned that many people are willing to risk, did under risk for a chance to survive. so here's a reminder now of our top story is this, our russian president, vladimir putin has ordered mass production of a new ballistic missile. already use this week to strike you crane data of his called emergency talks over the threat from that weapon, which is known as the for russian missile. and new draft deal is on the table as you and climate talks and nicer by john to proposals with c wealthy countries. pay $250000000000.00 a year to help developing nations deal with the effects of global warming. and israel's a prime minister benjamin netanyahu has condemned the arrest warrant issued against him by the international criminal court. he and his former defense minister, you're off the line, are accused of committing more crimes in gone. so this is dw news. after
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