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at the conference. and that's really what's important to people to understand today . and, and nigerian born on says challenges perceptions of african art creating works that speak to the world while pondering his routes. it is very important for me that's fine. that's walk is smotts viewed us on optic on pods. that's right. our 1st and foremost viewed as i'm not the i'm totally alrighty. well, welcome to the program. or how did one conference reshape an entire continental destiny for generations to come? a 140 years ago, you appear in pause. got together here in berlin to decide on the rules of

engagement as a claims territory in africa. germany's chancellor auto front postmark called the berlin conference at the request of belgium's king loophole the 2nd to one to the congo basin. as his private property was so called, scramble for africa by the europeans, often led to disputes between them. with the berlin conference provided a platform to iron mountain. those issues, however, no indigenous advocate of representatives attended the negotiations. african leaders had no say and what was happening to their homelands. meanwhile, the violin conference gave a boost to the european seizure of african land. a result is blatantly disregarding african sovereignty and leading to the re shaping of the continents borders. societies and future of germany has long promoted what's known here as memory, culture. it's culture of remembrance, in reference, particularly to the atrocities of the nazi era. but it's history of africa hardly

features now active as the looking back at the $1884.00, but in a conference and its aftermath through a series of events and exhibitions to examine this crucial event. i went to have a look. scholars, activists and other professionals, mostly from africa and the diaspora gather to discuss the past and its impact on the present. they brought together by the berlin based civil society collective known as the colonial a, which works to shine the spotlight on billions colonial history. and keep its legacy in focus of the berlin conference of 188485. i was even when it happens, very consequential for the african continent and infantry. it continues to be so simply because the consequences, the repercussions office has been ignored. broadly in germany, you know,

number one is obviously the type of anti unplugged racism. and so colonialism has not entered the memory called culture and your own germany broccoli. and that's why we hear it is important to have such an event to talk about, you know, illegal signs. the come the point of the ability to talk about the violin. things. that's still a good one. to talk about the meal colonialism and also to inform us and to learn from each other. about where do we see colonialism in issues like said in issues like international uh, develop them and, and, and issues of, of age and so, and as of it was right here, a 140 years ago with the european colonial powers gathered for the berlin africa conference of a building where the man no longer exists, it was damaged in world war 2 and was late demolished. what does exist, though,

is this plaque, which commemorates events, and contains some important historical information, but it's easy to miss as one walks past here. and that's somewhat symbolic of the way in which the berlin conference and his last thing legacy is. i remember in this part of the world this modest display at the side highlights the african resistance to the european colonial scramble. as well as the ongoing civil society efforts to keep the conversation alive. this is part of a series of exhibitions arranged with berlin's museum foundation at saint nicholas church. now, a museum. there are 2 exhibitions on various aspects of colonialism. and it's the legacy, including who is honored or ignored in european museums.

while we really hope the memorization commemoration of colonial, but also anti colonialist 3 in europe. and in germany, we chose to double in conference with sort of that it moves more into the main stream into the center of society and becomes sort of like normal part of memory culture that gets acknowledged and that ultimately finds its way into the curriculum that hasn't gone very far yet, so we hope that in a way, also to accept that this happened to you and not to be in denial because brought a society is a burden. society is also in denial. on the consequences of colonialism. the 2024 berlin advocate conference concluded with strong demands from the panel of experts on issues ranging from human rights to trade as a call for you a p, and pause to account for the colonial legacies today. not joined

by default following journalist and also of the book. africa is not a country. welcome to the program depot. now in your book, you make the link between the colonial era and its impact today. when you look back at this land calling friends in a 140 years on, how would you sum up this kind of commemoration if you would describe it that way? yeah, i think for me and thank you for having me today. i think for me, the most important thing is using this on to the, to remember what happened at the, by the conference and how it is impacted the foundations of what in africa. i think it goes beyond simply just commemorating the subjects acknowledging it happen. but ensuring that going forward, this event is at the core of, you know, what we teach the young people about the history of colonialism and the impact of that had on the $64.00 countries across africa. i think there's such

a misunderstanding of the importance of this event. a lot of people just assume that it simply wasn't offensive, which, you know, colonial powers came together and, and chose which costs of africa they wanted. but actually, that isn't the case. what do you know, what actually happened was that they set about the series of rules that would go about how they would caught up the confidence. most importantly, they created these many stereotypes about africa is being savages and civilized people who don't civilize communities. this idea of confidence and so for me to really, really essential thing isn't showing that, you know, this, remember in speed is an opportunity for us to actually inject into our, into our schools, into a coming society, an opportunity to learn more about the realities of what the battery conference did, and the impact of colonialism is hot across the concert. before we go into some of the, the legacy, how would you respond to people who see this kind of conversation and say, well,

that happens so long in the past. we need to move on. yes. so you know, i think for me the most important thing is understanding our history is key. so we don't make the same mistakes looking into the future. and that has been one of the problems with this discussion is that we do not understand the history. and so therefore we keep making the state mistakes into it currently. and, you know, we see a lot of evidence that we're going to keep making the same mistakes into the future . we keep talking about. because if it's one big country we keep to back because it's a place that people can somebody just go in and take from it, whatever they like. we keep to that african, the way in which the colonialists told about africa as a place of people who call themselves and who will help this and have no agency of that road. and so that is why these conversations are important. it's not simply, you know, historical discussion and it's occurring motor and discussion. it's essential to our understanding of the ongoing conversations around retarding still in order to

fox. for example, you know, these things are linked together. and so it's not simply just something that happened a 140 years ago, a lot of the legacies of that conference and what ensued and speaks to our current present reality. and that's why we essential for me that as many as possible, understand the realities of the by the conference and the impact that it's hot on the countries to the state. it can you break some of that down for us, some of the, the impacts whether the social, cultural or whatever else as a result of the band and conference that we still seeing to this day? i as yeah, absolutely, um, it says, as i mentioned earlier, you know, one of the 1st things that the attorneys that are compensated was that they decided to come up with a miss of a justified going in and stating the line for themselves. they've sent, explores into the regency, told them that africa was a, you know, a wonderful place for them, incredible communities and natural resources and artifacts. and so they decided

that they were going to go in and steal the land and steal these outside themselves and rule over these people they needed. they knew that they needed to come up with some sort of justification as to why they should be allowed to do it. and so they came up with a minutes that applicants was savages on civilized people who couldn't accosted themselves. and so as a result, the clearing of this were coming to save africans from themselves and to introduce what they called the 3 seas, which was homeless, christianity, and civilization. and then after agreeing upon the rules in which they could go in there and essentially, you know, as long as you could full swim, publish on the a will be with the 1st year of the country to arrive on a piece of land. you could have that landfill, so they set about 2 violence. we see that in the co creation of the color free states. and what we now know is the democratic republic of congo, where as it was also kingly and both rain but hostile population were killed. guns about 10000000 people. we see that 5 inch in the divided group policies that created, especially by the british created particularly large countries like the one that i

made. now my jury at which has over 250 different languages and in the multitude of ethnic groups in the parade to these countries with as many different ethnic groups as possible to create as much instability as a whole school within these countries to make it hard for these countries to exist beyond colonialism and then we see it through, you know, for example, the board is as well. the straight line board is that tool through ethnic groups. about 10 percent of all of the board is not good. i'm sorry about, that's kind of what it was and i forget, uh, it'd be just straight lines and the split up about 10 percent of all that the groups across the region. and so you could imagine how devastated would be for these communities so. so, you know, sort of mentally, it's important to remember that what the button conference did was that it created countries that were essentially built to fail that so they can see at the conference. and that's really what's important for people to understand today when, when we think back about this and, and you mentioned some of the, the,

the horrors that happened during colonialism. why do you think when that topic is brought up, there is a kind of reluctance to, to discuss it. that'd be for a lot of people think. yeah, so to me, i think for a lot of people they tied, they tied claims into their own pest identities, especially in the united kingdom, where the idea of the british empire for assessing generation is something that they all meant to be extremely proud of. and that is something that they grew up with, you know, learning culturally in communities. and there was a lack of education in schools about the realities of colonialism and what it actually meant. and so you know, if it for too long people have thoughts acquainted as a, as in the you know, the sort of trade agreements between countries. you know, they, during this time divide into the heart of courtney. listen. you know, this time the big impact that it is hard on communities across africa. you know,

they don't, they don't understand just how devastating clearly, some has been for so many people. and i think that's where a lot of the reluctance escalades come from because you know, you'll, you'll being told to learn something completely different to what you understood growing up and not for a lot of people can be, you know, pretty, pretty disciplined and difficult to, to get your head around um, but you know, my hope is that, you know, people would choose to take these things personally. and instead, they will, they will feel the past or, you know, appreciate it for actually understanding, you know, what actually occurred during this time and that, and having a better understanding of all shed histories. how has this conference impacted the way, at least for my calling, these particularly african colonies? i us, the, you know, place themselves in the well, today when it comes to just international interaction and the way deals are done

and trade and international politics and all of that. so yeah, i mean, are, you do still have, you know, a lot of countries across africa who have strong ties with the former, you know, colonial rule is, but also the way in which the conference created these countries, as i said, you know, these countries where essentially built to fail and these countries were essentially created as business arrangements. and so that is what the functions of having to reckon with up until today. and the way in which i think countries are considered when it comes to sort of the trade deals. and you know, when it comes to the way in which, you know, we are treated, it really has had a lingering impact inside and negative impact on our ability to present who we are to the rest of the world's individual hundreds. and that is really the legacy of, of the filing conference. you know, it really started something that has been,

you know, devastated one after. and i think when you better understand that, then you start to see how from countries very differently. and you saw it's actually been been, you know, what, an incredible job the 60 is people from across the continent have done in spite of what they inherited from, from the clear you, i or you travel around. do you do talks at schools and you speak to to, to young people about this issue? what are the common questions they ask you? yeah, i do, you know, it's, it's one of the most exciting parts of, of does this journey i've, i've gone on it as an officer is being able to talk to young people and you know, a younger generation don't tie their identities to claim it isn't all fascinated by the realities of money and i forget that they ask questions about, you know, my own identity might not bringing nigeria. they ask questions about, you know, why it's taking so long for us to, to,

to better understand the realities of plenty was, and they want to know more about the, the ongoing debates about the, the, you know, the still a non spots and, and, and they want to know how they can get involved in these discussions, you know, that comfortable with conversations around race and identity and history including this. and so they want to be a part of these discussions they want to, you know, get involved. and, you know, and that is something that, that's repeated often and i think that's the importance of education for me. you know, i see that when you go and you speak to people who do not tied these things to their own particular identities. and then as there is this openness to really want to see a change come about. okay, people find journalist and auth. uh, it's been very interesting getting your thoughts. thanks for speaking to us. thank you so much for me.

in recent years there's been a search and the number of young major and leaving for better opportunities abroad as a country faces huge economic challenges. but the grass has not been green on the other side for all who left out as dw only. so i took on my reports from legals, so i'm not even finding the way back. the whole making of day students in the u. k. you make out one, g is one of the few young nigerians well returned from leaving and studying abroad . like many others, he had gone seeking better opportunities. what do you make? i says he wasn't prepared for the challenges. he studied screen rights in the london. but afterwards he found it hard to get to work. he took all the jobs to make ends meet. but after 3 years, he felt it was time to go home. when i was there, when i felt my dream is like i had surgery and as time went on, i just felt like my dreams i just shrinking. because i wanted to best fits what's

the idea of what i could be. i just realized that, you know, i don't necessarily have to have all the clauses. i don't necessarily have to have all the experience. i can come back and teach people what i know, which is a lot gimme. got experienced culture shock. he was homesick the right. but who knew that coming back after being abroad wouldn't be easy either. in nigeria, it's often seen as failure or honestly it's okay. it's okay wild before i was like, okay, i want to come back and goes, you know, the whole thing or shame and i would encourage everybody's and make the same choice . i did. it goes to be honest, it's increasing choice for a lot of people. i was told that like, where is this is, is it was, this is the side or choice. now he's illegals. leaving now to his dreams, teaching him probation to aspiring actors like the crowd. here nigeria as

population is young, 70 percent, that under the age of 30, but many leaving doing jack black, which is a slang for running a week. the country's economic and other problems mean they feel they have no few choice. yeah. i think going over it. right now, i think it's almost to mrs . strange, you know, to leave the country as of right now. so yeah. how costly though, because of that just because of my profession and i don't see like fuel that's under the back. i'm doing so many different countries now. you personally, i just like experience. i apologize for that car. i don't want major as to be my only be more than 3 medium people have left the country in the last 2 years. says nat geo. yes. gimme a collision service which has issued a record number of passports development experts save people who leave could have the part to play in the countries gross. they once the government to do more,

to make returning home more attractive, some of them by craft skills because when i brought good to the west on, well, the learn skills, been villain, the length things that they need to get from here. so it's important that with frontier to practice telling people web left web let's things odd to bring them back to come up, log in to our industries here. you may count once to be part of those. we trying to make things better. taking the decision to move backwards hot, what he had support from his family. i was really happy to have him back. extremely happy him knowing that he could come home and they wouldn't be that reproach of. or you went away when the consequences come back to different things that you can do it. so hard decisions, but i know regrets whatever you make. i says he's here to stay. i'm feeling well. if you're more comfortable, i feel happier. the guy says what month us, and the more than anybody else is opinion of what i should have done for the

opportunities abroad. continues to attract so many young and i generally what the most we told and some have found success and a home abroad, including here in germany where one i do in born artist is aiming to change your opinion perceptions of african art while challenging deep social issues like racism and immigration, dw, of a walk outside side has this report as a blog artist, printing block images for a white audience. for td kabibi, it is not about his race. it is about his walk. it is very important for me that i'm out to walk is not

viewed us on austic on ok. but to write about 1st and foremost viewed as on how to walk this mission is to create a different ok. and we from this in the northeast of what african art is perceived us in you as a child was to be gone, drawing on son with his finger because he didn't have access to painting materials for it makes me happy that as a child to know my 2nd, my primary school and they are calling me young artist every day to dispense 12 hours in the studio near cologne for him, setting the right i'm be and he's important.

so i started experimenting with gloss with bench. and luckily i, i came to distribute technique, and since then, this has been my trademark in a dripping technique, lexus. this audience had sold hundreds of paintings around what, what does paintings, how deep meanings that, how it is colorful industry. he says he lacks his artwork to attract his views before they understand the meaning. this painting is about dr. floyd, a victim of police brutality in the u. s. free. so what was important for me was not to get to the face of judge floyd. i just tried to, to capture about more meant that the needs that somebody was meeting on his head

he sees he wanted to touch light. even though he had lived in germany for 30 years . he still gets, is pilot biased and then do the roots to him. everything is a piece of thought from the shoes to the floor. he groups page on on the help african i come from africa, i'm proud of my all region. but 1st and foremost, i'm not just the same goes for to this walk. he hopes that in the future, his walks. awesome, awesome. just thought and not a soft weekend of the and we leave you with more hot these images of traditional hand painted art on hots in montalvo and south west ends in broadway. and a new initiative is attempting to make this commercially viable for the august.

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