is, was every single connection mapped out shows the geophysical reality, the on the board is what makes things the way they are mapped out, navigating a changing world. now on youtube, the this week on the 77 percent street, the bates may i nibble to says below that, sorry, all those people have been kidnapped in your family is basic and that my family keep it, keep people tired, no more, you know around. so they need the help to stop a tell me that cannot be a solution. so you, you think that it's okay for people to get mad at just so that the solution can be found him daddy's money, give dad his money to kill him, would continue the

so and welcome back to the 77 percent st debates this week. we a back in they do use capital a buddha, now 7500. that's the number of reports of keeping up in cases in a period of one year in this country between june 2023 and july 2024 of us to be some very staggering statistics. the and of course behind every forget is a press on the people who are going to be speaking to us, to the trying to figure out why the situation persist in a julia and what can be done about it's a slot right here with how well i know when we talk about kid, nothing in a do or you might go back to the to book goes and you will actually one of them. it's been 10 years since you were abducted. do you mind telling us what happened to you that did that? yeah, in school these people just come on around the schools and they just tell us that that the so yes to use do you or do you suggest

a 9 to yeah. and do come to protest us. they just got yours to d sunday. solve for 3 years. we spent 3 years for their on we, i just please. well, we have pause and we was to come back to see our parent. and is that up to us that we be listening or this. then we start scabies, and we just say is we start quality and the job here, i've tried that. we just spent 2 years or 32 years. and we just do. we don't want the salon again. we want to come back to christine. yeah. and they, they just tell us that they gave us 3 dis, wait either $1.00 to $2.00 laws or something like that. and we see is we said that when we die, please then, and they just use those 3 days of time. we just have that 3 days, we are just sitting down to clients that they wouldn't for my kid was and i want us

5 people just call me i would just say that they would not be increasing. they would just follow the most of them. and is that 3 in the day of the 2 years, 3 years and we just we these for them to and did them. does that get to my the i'm on us. we just eating on what was the full 6 months? yeah. so you were captured for 3 years. that's obviously a very long time was stuff you had a very different experience. she was obviously captured by the bulk of around. they have some very incredible mutant ideologies based on religion. do you know who your cup does what and what happened to you, wendy? i come back into nice. uh, pay off when my gets and i and when i enter, so does this in the window or through my to my toilet, then i saw someone uh plain view. my did so do i way out in black. lots uh,

looking like for lisa, but they provide their faces. uh and what they have to do um about 18 of them. yeah. got it. in 18. 47. we spend the whole night. they have 3 can do add. yeah. work in between. be here on there. so let me do in britain there. so i had them ex, in uh about one of the cost is there. what is the news i bought this guy about to use uh, comedy. so it says that uh, the 5th uh you'll see $750000.00. so i had one of them same size and from there just went ahead back in there for some from there, the to become fast somehow for me. so i've been with them for with uh, 15 days. uh, because uh, investigation is between life and date. and the way i just actually enough, i found some of 500000000. well accident of that i. i said that i don't have it. i

don't know if my family is i've been the 100000000 that they coordinate. it says that the there's no such money do. okay. we dealt with no we, i assume you coming back to my pharmacy. so but with for the s i d, i got free back on hand out, but all i understand with them it is those that some need money. now let me, let me ask doctor, ask me this question and i'm really sorry that you both went through that. but of course the situation that we're talking about getting the julia is not unique to these 2. as a matter of fact, let me just see from our audience how many people here knew of someone who was keeping up on news, a friend or a friend of a friend. you know ne julian ok. so you're saying no, ne julian has been unaffected. yeah, but these are 2 very different motivations, right? it would seem like, where does that disparity come from when they decided to, in the case of kidnappers support?

so it just started lightly as a conflict between hy, this i'm promise, which is normally during the harvest. but at a later time, it's continue to go to the around 200120022003. i reported the praises or the position in laguna, a position of pumps among the house on i'm on the fly. me. i know what the house and the full i knew full audience when not somebody that with night to find uh the for line. yeah. the hi. this. and the house is a tribe that has been mixed up by religion. how does mostly the full, i need my guns and during the dry season they moved from one place to another daughter then this evening they moved from one place to another. ok, so we are clear on who they are and now you're telling me they start to conflict because of grazing lands because of drought. but how does that then become kidnapping? when it look time, you can keep nothing because of the so many issues i can outlined the few lack of

social justice to the connection among our students, the person that a story in black terms to try to send an institutions to have a kind of responsibility a, so those are responsibility. the issues of managing their grades and months both tried to show in the personalities or in the latest they started selling those grades in the concept, grades a lunch to the promise. so how does have no identity? did you just show a system in that? did i become so collapsed because of the level of corruption, ok, instructional portion and so on and so forth. so just to i've made to that, let me just pause there because because it's a huge and very complicated history, but i think we get the gist of it. and you've talked about the security forces and their response to that. obviously when we're talking about kid, nothing, you'd expect to find a put a uniformed police officer here. we actually had one. and they actually came right up here to a venue. but at the very last minute when they had that, it was

a debate. they chose not to participate, regardless of that, you still depend on the police officers, halima, and one of your relatives was also keeping up. and i'm just trying to find out as a family when you hear the news, what it was, the 1st thing that you did, sorry, i know this is a very difficult topic. we called people around that . so the dyslexia to have gone there to, to rescue the team my oldest son's task go down to katrina, to run search for in search of my sister when they get a default that found out that she's not how long to put a risk. you the ones in such a high in the much, what is the hosp to, to try give the victim endorsement to anybody who should be among them. so we're trying to, to bring to go to show the direction where she is. i think it was 2

days later i they could not pass called her husband until that i use. so is the presence of lunch. he said, yes, it's a go to your wi fi, your child is on the look up to at this. so at this point, have they given you any indication of what they want in return for them? no, no. they've just said we have them nothing else. yes, yes. it was meant to ask, but 2 weeks, the cold, the fan's, the call just as this is what the one from the government the government should release the people for them. if the people that went to free people for us, the next call again is that's decided to monday for us. so the 100000000 unfortunately days was week to us perfectly. don't get the amount those positive is due on the traditional media. how do

a flogging them my treating them in the bush, all of the shots and crying on the nest in their leader, come up. i said he's given the government's us would do that if the don't call to give them what the ones that they're going to slow to all of them. so we don't have any needs. we don't have any option dodge, we have to call all the family members for us to form a group informing group fitness guided, meet at the means of transportation for their products. so we, when we, when we met them, we'll ask please. this is what you said you are doing you, the government is to be working on, on the remaining victims and you say you're watching the government is walk in is in that on this new way. i know happy about this. okay, so i'll come back to you so that we know how the story was resolved, but before we go too far, i want to come to joshua because we're hearing some very scary things here. yeah.

why people? so there being, why has this problem continued persistently for so long? we're talking about 10 years since how well there was sticking. the bottom line is money. it's the money making. venture is a criminal enterprise and it's extremely to create to, for those they're engaged in it. yeah, but it's not easy. is it because you have to walk somebody in the middle of the night until an unknown destination. you need people to keep them there. you need to feed these people wherever you're getting the funding from. well, the funding, don't forget that this is an ongoing enterprise. so for example, you the steps small undergraduate into a bigger groups and the more the got the victims, the more money to make. just like she said, if for example, they have 10 presence incompatibility and the gets that may be $10000000.00 each $1800000000.00. a huge amount of money will be that they can use for chrome or arms with that. so they can use to recruit more kidnappers into definitely into default,

and we'd like to kind of get more people here. let me come back to dr. mit here because when you look at how dia, the situation is, is at the moment, would you say that it's the inability of the politicians, or is it the inability of the police to get down to the bottom of this? none of these guys is a folder in their parents on. therefore parents are known and everybody's what i say everybody, including myself on all the institutions that you can name them as security is additions, most of these guys. so the question is, what have we been doing that most of them all the internally, they're not up to 3000 number. yes, of course you know exactly what behind it. those who are cutting the ups. but because of the infiltration of ability of the government to do that, i think because of the level of corruption and negligence, because of the intent of support is because of the old school for those elements. because of the lack of the understanding of the community,

the issue of security is not that as well. so which of the governmental and he said that is supposed to lead to a fully this community president who are trying to secure or to kind of so on, so on and so forth would because the criminals are taking advantage of the divided mindset and invited to institution that trustworthy, but we have, let me ask with stuff here, question just so i know you want to see something. i'll come back to you and talk to i make a saying that the people who do these things, they are known, they live in the same villages as us. they are all family members. they are friends of friends. do you know who was behind your kid? nothing and have they've been brought to just i don't know anybody, but most of the problem of the can nothing that is happening. do one that teresa happened in the at home daddy's informed us. some could be a movie or no, but nibbles. some could be for the full force of the issue of business or something as maybe they might need something from you. in my own case, i said to all right,

let me ask color here because your case was internationally publicized everybody around the globe was trying to find the 2 book goals. but there are still some who have been held in captivity despite what's the government did. and despite towards the international community tried, do you feel that it was enough? no, it's not you've. i'm to ask you them for i'll ask each does do day for 10 is have to know this to day. and there will be the woman to this or assist us because he's painful for us have to now if i remember i'm to clients, i do know where the uh, where that is to i deal with. i knew he had a woman is talking about them. i can do this the spin for, for me. do you think that the government has forgotten about the remaining goals? yes, i think so. okay. so just to let me come back to you because it's a bit of a chicken and egg situation, right? because when does it stop?

i mean, i know there's a lawyer in this country that binds payments over run some, but what does the family to do when the loved one has been taken? uh, i think is quite in human to criminalize run some payments on the hughes that um the security agencies are slow right on. 2 factors are responsible essentially for why it could not be in for us on the striving and 19. and i think we need to get the conversation very correctly. number one is the fact that 9 julia is a cash based economy. now, what do you use to pay for run some? well, i would imagine if you could have a kid, napa, not a digital currency. yes. in 2023 and don't cost base transaction with about 52 percent. now what happened is because the government, under relevant authorities, as the meat investments in digital banking infrastructure, now, once you, you caught the sauce once you ensure that the economy, the use of caution,

that companies reduce it better as minimum the business. so i'm going to create a variable because no keeping up, i want to take money by, by wire, by bank transfer or anything because it will be a trip. so, so long that this cash in the society, the issue of keeping up being is no good any we send. all right. now the last time we still have lima, we were asking about what your family did in order to get to your sister. and you tell me that you weren't eventually able to raise the around some. what impact did that have on on you'll find me a surprise, so hard. right? never to raise the right. so one for the protest we were begging the government please. the address of the people, though, we don't have that in mind asking for go by should try and do something please. the okay, the federal care wish you go that don't get back to us. we went, there was no call, nothing, nothing. we didn't hear anything from them to have cut out was

think going to several months different months. well, so this is a very long process that you're going back and forth, not really knowing what's going to happen. so how did you eventually get to a system back to mercedes by good grace without being any run. so that's good. i don't know that is between them and the government. so halima the telling us the story of her family, but i'm just curious to hear from the people at the back. you know, how has kids not being affected? you guys in your villages and you'll, homestead, let me hear from some people at the back, please. i am leaving maybe later before 2018 is duties in de columbus. we are staying now with joe. it's l. i see it a because you know, i'd village with dive save. most of some people know even may nibble see says, blue dies banking up. they will go, sees these e, sorry,

all those people have been kidnapped in your family is basic and that my family. thank you my uncle, full. izzy. it lacks. let's see. in the flash. yes, we have to swing and loads. you know, i'd be nice. okay. does anybody else have a similar experience? are you able to go back to your villages and feel safe? no, i can go up to my village and feel c. t a and i will get it re in you a go everywhere visit. i used to feel safe because that a lot of military personnel here that's why, but in the village, most of the places and let's see. so we're talking about here, the economic impact and now psychological impact. and i wanted to ask you how, you know, it's been 10 years since the original kid not being 7 years since you were released . would you say that you've gotten over the trauma? i wonder if that's even an appropriate question? yes, i'm to scan because as to call me to our police,

he's the vocal honda up to now sometimes a confused stay at home safe because i'm of the if i have one that just should do and do up to now about my suicide guns. if we get to the o as fluid, you know was and so time we can get food to eat that them, that we are in custody. these one want we do it for this one. knew what that and some of the food that we, i get to me did i did it when these people up to now does to i was do a few days as well. so as we were speaking, i noticed that it's very difficult for you to express yourself when it comes to this is the government or for any support, it's sold to your family and your sister after the fact. no, not at all. okay, let me ask you more stuff at the same question because, you know, being taken from your home, that's something very, very personal. what have you done to sort of come back to full psychological health

if you have doing that to me, that was that with a trauma, and when i come back i was to be in the hospital and even while coming out of the hospital, i still have a lot of or discussions or a lot of things for them. my family, especially id my wife. she says that i see so so, so what, which i don't know why you've been saying that. so without the full force, i was at the high, high totes, are 5 types of 5 cycles. you kind of problem for the purpose of that get nothing because the kind of a to say, so in that bleach at, but in that, in that bush that says the 5 to, i wouldn't be, has the bin for the present that for you, or wish me or someone who made me saying that he's praying for my dad. i am not waiting for him to have so kind of chrome i that a goes in my life. yeah. doctor,

i've made when will stuff i speaking here you are shaking your head and obviously these are rooms that you be privy to because you no longer do this, but you want to go see a thing the release of these people. how difficult is it for the families who it is quite difficult because i can see that in 11 years old they have, i was able to conduct 84 negotiations. i only succeeded to one when you say succeed, what does success look like in that field? i was able to facilitate the process for leasing 35 people at this time, but a detour rather than photographed. all right, no, we've been talking about kid. nothing, but i haven't mentioned yet. the cost of life yet is also very high. it's estimated that for every one kid not being attempt, there is one desk that follows it. so let me hear a few most solutions from the people here. what do you think needs to be done in

order for this to become a problem of the past? so that night julia is no longer dealing with this. i see your hand up. that was top pain did. i'm some complete to keep people tired, no money nor around. so maybe they will have to stop. but tell me that cannot be a solution. ok. so you, you think that it's okay for people to get mad just so that the solution can be filed if not. so how much are we going to spinning the paintings? i'm so long some people who paid on the community. okay. do i see joshua's hand up? i think he wants to respond to this and most of the let me come to you 1st. he say, you know what? in order to ease the button on your family, it's may be better if you had been cute. i'm in support of that. just as a product you people are taking money to this uh, keeping up with this getting nothing with nothing but uh daddy. see we can try you to this uh, this entered in mountain view. uh. and if any one or a victim into

a 100 kids enough, us lucky sleif at the government should come, i would buy confess, stating that family at least at least with a minimum of at least a 5000000 because we have money is better to use them by fee and deep the well defined value of the big gym. so when does that less? because him daddy's money. give dad his money, the killing would continue. uh okay. i have to say, i'm very surprised that you are leaning towards that. how do you my, let me come to you before i finish? joshua told me what he said. it's a note to me that i'm some of the going to give the family will live, bring back the person to kill steve gun. but he came back. but uh, looking at the people that they used to keep looking at the situation without the flight, then i didn't. what do you know that people way into is better? we do feed around some down to take it as one mean as want me to time i was good

enough, but i did. this is in the position that that will not come back because laughs fund off my live in the task comes to the end. so that means i wouldn't come back, but i do monday they will give to my family probably to be able to see something to do to my children. let me, let me, let me come back to what is the person your finish? would you give the funding to the last one is the burden of the family. like no, they didn't feel you. you came back to your family or you know, provide you for your family, but it was the government continue to provide for the family that i believe your, you don't know what government is. do you a press the key. yeah. was much an as to when he is go. you. i do see a new way to stop this. kidnapping. football is the, the government in order with disabilities 6, that is not ready to do the work by step in this. i can not be in the make it a way of getting money that make it as the will 546 because that is 46. now

in the security set, to remind you that let me, let me close this up with just show because we're hearing of us me some very radical solutions from 2 people who enjoyed the keep that being in one way or another. final thoughts um for you to say stop payment of run. so just be aware it's because once your, your 5 though your mother or really just kidnapped, your sense of judgment is automatically impaired. you're not thinking about what the government is saying. what comes to your mind is how do i get my religion out? so i'm not sure anybody kind of relates we, there's a lot that sees that if you p run some, yes, up your library for 50 a do it to him because it will make sense because i've got an ideal situation. i expect the government to put words into action to ensure that run some payment is reduced. it cannot be stopped. so for you to and not to law by coming by saying ok it's i don't need for each for us on the fees. come on sense for me. yeah. all right, so we asked what sounded like

a very simple question at the beginning of this debate. what is causing the problem of kids not being carrying? they do have very key effect as elaborated. how can you stop that? not so clear on that myself would love to hear from you, but for now. thank you all for watching the the the

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