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preston central station, when trains caring embassy refugees from prox passed through. thousands of audio and video tapes were carefully archived. the countless private citizens were also monitored, observed in wire topped like new shales, schlosser, who assembled an airplane in his shed in order to flee to the west. colleagues who worked his informants for the styles that you betrayed him. today, there was a replica of his plane in the memorial, thus organized the original app i no longer exist now since 5 months in china. oh, health. just because i built the plane, take them to declare the criminal justice. it's full question. that level problem. the styles that you called it operation, egless, interviewing those responsible at the time is difficult. most do not want to talk about that time or their involvement. but
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a former lieutenant colonel agreed to an anonymous interview about operation address. lots of this going to affect we minutes nights to secure the entire property. for about the full single was a covert search, not official douglas division h, entered the property, opened the garage and carried out the searches, the easiest on that they told his day and found the plan. if he came, we could take them into custody right away or we waited overnight instead and arrested him from work the next morning. about shot of me. she has schlosser went to prison for 4 and a half years. the west german government bought his release for 96000 marks. there's all the signals. sorry. you know the flesh does get on. i did nothing wrong in that situation to the kind of i have no blow to my hands. so the part from the
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shaw suitcase before i never cost a permanent term to anyone, but that's the started wisdom of the loan, but the time of transport almost under have to live with that for an oil visual was obviously it was michelle schlosser now leads to our groups through the memorials. these young people from seeker live in north ryan, west valia, visit the oldest part of the seller. nothing we have actually in the middle of the building. and this is where the soviet military administration came in. his thoughts on the line to come in 1947, the soviets, k g b set up a reman to prison in the basement of what was done, an old cardboard box factory, a sprawling labyrinth of sellers dumped. the fox hole was built beneath the current apartment buildings the long bouts, most proud of the
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thousands of real or a legit nazis war criminals. and the opponents of the regime were held in the basement prison sentence to death or to work in soviet labor camps. the or the hummed on the hill, these a little tough scale up the vehicles in the box at 7 or non foot on the hill they conducted all the centers that are being into. so for the test is coming from then on arrested everyone who looked suspicious. who's including 14 and 15 year old on this one because i thought the pin flak help us both or in the militia home or this in the i know when they were holding me to be shipped off the full crew talk to come. does this look that was the cooler that stolen is built above the arctic circle like larva. amazing. so you have to start even if they were all sentences 25 years and as a becomes punishment, i'm going to transfer directly from yeah, that's longer, that's it. i just offer one most done for the hours that to 10 your plan in tops,
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there was no reason to wash hyattsville toner to let this and it was hardly any light column, least it was almost empty under this vic, this isaac, most of the only things in here, the small within buckets in the cell to use when they took off and d as in david and lynn are no costs from us. nothing at all. no comics they could find the prisoner slipped on the floor mattresses or whatever else i could find was locked, wouldn't blindfold is fucking 1953 on the german state security came up finally continued to use it as a detention center not to lose all the bill wouldn't call until the 1st toilet and this room. as of this, i need to let the seal line get bought and then i am alone. we're done. later, it was completely rebuilt us to the bond at the time. they both in tradesmen who were convicts from g d o, a presence of faith and set up a work squat off initiative, opened
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a rebuild and expanded everything and at yahoo or not within. i almost feel month to compare the meetings with don hilton this alice for more knowledge depaula hoffman. the bible. hi michelle. yeah. was taken into custody in 1982. she was 28 years old at the time and had 2 young daughters. she's been 19 months here and was housed in the common so with other women that's the system for these task. this cell was for the women prisoners among 6 women were crowded in here. it was always full. that's what it multi 1000000000. she and her husband had applied in 1982 to emigrate to west germany. the asked on top this afternoon to the 1st application was rejected. we didn't give up the struggle collab 9 to the ones up to 1982. we went to the west
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german diplomatic mission. they don't give us from then on. we were under surveillance. come investigating cynthia thorne and on september 14th 1982, we were arrested for half the 12 bottles on michelle. yes. was sentenced to 2 years in prison for slander and treason. for children were allowed to stay with her sister in law. the spanish asked might have a needed to go into the main cell house right away to our smart. and so unless they had to be in a standing cell, 1st them as finished trying to come only after them because i sent in to the cell house. in my inbox once a week, we could go to the laundry area for refresh here. once a week, i live in the hi she spent her entire sentence here on boston as positive as cheap labor for the saucy, missing in russian. i was given this problem. i've only worked in the wash outside and we also had to clean here from this upstairs in the interrogation room and down
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here on the 2nd floor. we look forward, natasha. now she feels lucky to have stayed in the dresden styles, the prison, and not a women's prison police seizure. so i need a shock. no, i was so mentally shattered that i just cried. chaplain ma'am, i'm would like to try and i dreamed about my mother and about my children now. and that was a huge emotional, very good. you know high. the last it shall become. i was given set, it is fine. mission results. i know. all right, but as time to get me back on my feet, when mine suargo send him on to my sister and brother in law came to see me every 6 weeks. and your daughters or not the girls. how long were you away from them? no d 9, some more. not that the whole 19 months, but i was here to shop for so that's awesome. i haven't. i tried not to think about
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it this time today for so to so talking to you, i tried to find some sense of balance. i should substances for sister in law brought her some work and she began to crochet dogs in prison shop in the queen, flotsap appreciate a green and black one and the blue and black one biggest toys and wanted to make my children happy quite in my every week and she wrote letters to her daughters who were only one and 3 years old. at the time. the letters she received in prison from her family had been preserved. barbara's our mission, your sister in law made sure that your daughters did not forget her while she was in prison. the she had some which she always talked about me as mama valdez to be open to prepare the
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girls. that's the kindle pull behind it. on bottles are michelle, you divorced her husband in prison and withdrew her application to emigrate. after his release, he went to the west and she returned to her children. the blue doll is still on display today in the museum. let's candler and klaus schumann. the men from the blue under bridge turned 18, installs a prison the 4 months before their trial are deeply in their memories for 10 tons 18. on january the 15th, i thought maybe they would open the door and tell me, is it open to miss? i cannot go home cuz the house and then not until the 9th of the 14th, i tracked me off of the band 8 times for interrogation. you couldn't sleep soundly
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when you did sleep. it was only for an hour or so. i lost all sense of time. the next night they did it 3 more time. comments can put some full sentence over time. do you remember which cell you were in? all kinds could yes, sorry. well, we're standing in front of it. my cell is number 14. we no longer have names covered 14 ones that from the last one and 14, to select on the right. either some sounds tournament him to this day and this has meant to crash metal on metal each month. i get this, i want to do it. now the thing will probably should i is okay. it'll be loud. but the worst memories are of this room, the position of the tires must, must have been confined to the dock cell for nights on to die off. so nobody told
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me why was that? and that wasn't even the toilets in this out from one to the always have some not. and they would law from monkey from outside and refused to let you go see that was the worst period to make the closet after 4 months in custody. the trial began, they all received prison sentences. on the day of the verdict, they saw each other and their parents for the 1st time since their arrest. the middle in winchester market up is the 1st time we saw each other and the parents with that as well crying, of course that i was the 1st contact without power and the 2nd much in the new more document to at the end, my mother was allowed to help me and she told me she was proud that i was being held as a political person. i'm not a criminal. the good to of anna was also a political prisoner. he is still traumatized. he was imprisoned for distributing
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leaflets and writing slogans on buildings. one night and 1962, the stars the rest of him because i think it was catching light. people were looking i felt above low as being arrested or the my young life was all over for the time being. that's when i ended up here the 37 months, so it's a loan of cos. it was pretty hard because you have absolutely nothing. i'm pulling that you can't was a handkerchief. nothing personal. nothing. yeah, old for you. 20 great care was taken to ensure that the prisoners could not see each other. little on speaking a traffic light system showed when someone was returning from interrogation. then all the other cells stayed closed. the only communication between the prisoners was via the toilet pipes and knocking signals
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the even that was stopped, the stores they invented an interference transmitter, the early interrogations were fruitful, but overtime became more settled. historian tyco norman has researched the styles these methods extensively as a nuisance to guy on the ultimate. now we have it from quite reliable sources that physical violence played a greater role in the 1950s then in the 60s, seventies and eighties. that's because the interrogation process had become more professional funding. there was more a more academic training for a new generation of interrogate or something you might go help them in the way. you know, that's one to knock woods. when the torture you are referring to is called light torture, which includes sleep deprivation,
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highest applying psychological pressure so that the scars didn't show on the skin, but remained in the mind in the psyche. this went on until the 19 eighties and of course, always depended on how co operative the accused was during interrogation. and deb, before linked to into funding for the aim was always to get a confession looks. candler went through counts list interrogations. during his guided tours at the museum, he tries to give young people a sense of it. and he went to the scott. this was an interrogation, read the 2 or 3 of these, read the entire guy to us up here. it was an emergency switched down here and he could press if the prisoner of the head jumped across the tablets in which as far as we know, never happened. and there was a job to
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take the cloth after the job and spent it on the chat. then you dropped your pants and sit down with tom who got to run fuel pump back and forth from side to side on the trough, and stand up and fold the truck and put it back in the job. it was very important to preserve body sense. so sniffer dogs could find people later. records of the interrogations had been kept. that's a very strong navigation. we're not to let you on these things. we already told you it's noon that we have the evidence. i told you today at the start of the whole thing, you know, have the opportunity to briefly respond to this occupation. do you admit it or do you not submitted? i did not submit it. in the fall of 1989, the people brought an end to the g. d r. the stalls we began destroying thousands
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of files on ged or citizens in its offices. when word of the spread, people set off for bouts, and their surprise, it just stopped the destruction. the on december 5th, 1989 fritz sleeper, 1st from west germany, was visiting his family and president he heard on the radio that people had gathered at the styles, the headquarters, english invasion. today's didn't. several 1000 citizens have occupied the office for state and security. a new pharmacy focused person has appealed to those president not to use violence. and he quickly packed his video camera and drove to the scene that comes with your mother's office to the front office. suddenly a young man climbed onto the container over standing on putting a foot masking tape over the blinking red lights on my camera and told me i was
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a perfect target. and this knife as he is on his off fits and i looked up. and so people on the rooftop loudecker's done, i don't know if they were snipers out of my heart nearly stars. we die. i suddenly realized that what i was doing wasn't exactly sikes. i got the business pennsylvania fairly investigate the call for a peaceful riley in front of the stalls. the headquarters came from the new forum and the group of 20 hair bed wagner, who later became dressed in his 1st democratically elected mayor, played a leading role at the time. because i'm sure i'm for me to talk. i know what your thoughts asked me if i was prepared to register a demonstration with him in front of the state security building complex. that's your on submitting that was my greatest moment of fear, complex desktop seizure height. that's why the moment that goose, honest you had up until then we had always done everything at the monday protests
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to ensure that no one let the demonstration to the styles, the styles you through it. so the 2 of us went to the race and radio station. shortly before 12 we asked the editors to pass on a message to the people of today is that they should keep their radios on the job. and it wouldn't be an important announcement in half an hour or so ago. and then we took turns at the typewriter and wrote the call for a demonstration. and it actually went out over the radio at 1235 after the new office buildings. and we had never thought of occupation interest of all to have just done the house and because they had already painted the wall by 5 pm, they climbed the wall ready to jump to the other side. i was very afraid of what would happen next if you chance. a shot to me and then like a miracle, the gate open from the inside in front of him we were pushed from behind. we had to
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go into the dark. this shutter goes on the bus, i was afraid things would get out of hand, that it would turn violence, that people would be lynched or that this dog would shoot speech game. then the bill of lading extensively confusing. nothing was search. and then we were pushed from behind a move faster and faster at the front and came into the inner courtyard. and from there into the hall whose flint dot done indians on this part. of course, those 5000 people couldn't all fit into the home. the students who 9 does all the food and god supplies and paste the fund moves closing laws. because i'm a 137 looks 2 to schedule the theme guys walk is calm of a new shed. the but the discussion didn't go the way the major general wanted judy staggered home or your husband for his going to talk to somebody about this man who
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was used to power was confronted with questions from ordinary citizens. now she was being interrogated, asked his name and rank. everything went wrong for him that evening and the crowd insulted him. spit at him, kicked him. he went to his needs. i was worried that he might be knocked down and trampled to death. tom booth is been with him. i was partly responsible for the call. i didn't want the general to die either as it. so i stood in front of him to protect him from shots and i walked a few feet so we could walk upright again to sort of, you know, hopefully school going to natural to get involved. then he placed his pistol on the table to show that was the surrender of the police to install the administration for all to see as the took place, the english gets off. she's the greatest danger seemed to have passed away. but at
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about half past 11, a group split away and told me they were going to break up the k g b. yeah. when he gets new, isn't that in khaki? be all have at wagner did not go to the k g b on and get like a surprise. he only learned what happened there, the next day to mazda. they rang the bell to get in. what sort of dog guard was the machine gun was standing there? and out came a man in civilian clothes to do that. they assumed he was protein, which he later confirmed, specially with how to game. and he told the demonstrators that the guards had orders to fire on trash passers. i'm doing den, financial smells like him home to my home. he told them to go home, and they did have to go with donald. in the weeks and months that followed all rights activists took over the styles. the offices ensuring that surveillance videos, files, documents, and audio recordings were saved from destruction as
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a set of the kindest him, because in 7, twice it is well known from friends and relatives, right. and so for state security might serious intrusions into people's private lives in very many cases. so not an issue out of mine. and i believe that we should take the opportunity to put an end to it, to condition i'd. i'd d as in to an end to, to provide people kept coming to the stalls, a headquarters hoping for a chance to see their files as well. here. i wasn't present here for 15 months and went out there on what charge attempted defection. somebody on this one was that from $69.00 to $71.00, is it? how were you treated as arden correct of properly? i would say, but coldly 4 and a half months of solitary confinement without justifications. yeah. and it was very, very hard 10 days. and the whole it's without a window without
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a blanket soup only every 3rd day and doesn't talk on the super duplicate. but the point is not how it was bus and why i was there all month just because i want it to move away. you know, by monday to make it seem why they go to building was open to the public for the 1st time in 1990 for establishing a museum and memorial here was an obvious step in 1997 about snow skies addressed in memorial association was found at henry cross is its director of stuff and all months including the default and the association was found it and it was a mix, a former person, some people who was simply interested in the top handle for this ministers were involved in opening this. the bi, as well, many just found just impossible to process that all here are all gone. so remember what happened today? i was supposed to a possible to create a memorial to the seo integrated engineering since then visit our numbers have
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increased yearly school classes, tour groups, and more and more from west germany. most of all sagan is feeling most iraqi or the lead tools, myself, a carpenter. and we have always had very positive experiences and especially with the young people in the same age as we, when we were in prison locked on all, it's always a pleasure on the website to share funds because you see it resume for months. now when you talk about it, you know, it's not just about present experiences and bad things off the phone with also about how young people are you home self knowing when you 1st think about your life when you want to stand on your own 2 feet and then try wrong, that comes in the, to a set, your independent agencies and stuff. that's something that very much concerns young people today. yeah. so, so thinking about with a all the way they want to go on what they want to do with their lives. what they're supposed to do, at least one was each day and was invalid. less than think you'll need them on fun when people help us, diesel that so and that's interesting that he's on a building with
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2 faces. one sad and cruel the other hopeful the people working here. now recognize this more than anyone as a she, i don't think office knows these are still when i started here. there was only the status. the president's proposal is not the big building that now covers 48000 square feet, good investors and we developed it altogether. and all that big, and that's the other side of the place that the key it is a really lively meeting place. and the security of the people who lived through it all, feel that the new as to their families, the quality thought the young people who come here the, the visitor groups and the tourist, and also feel it wants to show that is a very special characteristic of this space and also this friendly openness combined with memories of what happened to your eye, of the survivors, the people who risked and lost their own liberties fighting for freedom. those are the 2 faces and that makes the work very exciting side of this most of course, sometimes it's also very sad and much going on. but above all,
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good feedback encourages us to continue with some muscle lytham's edwards, those feedback to come to for the people who were held here, placed outside, changed sometimes dramatically. sometimes more suddenly the miss yale schlosser left the g d r and returned after reunification shopped us from life. mister, i saw it from a fall and was a bit upset when the whole came. that will come in the mind. present it back then have been for nothing. but now i'm over at once to this part. the industry will, rec, eberhardt hawes are and clouds schuman resumed their studies, and remain dressed and looks. candler became a teacher, but left for the west. in 1987. the 2 returned after reunification. this law delta all you must experience might be more mature in a much better policy, doesn't have to conform to the g. d, often which we have to ensure until we left and 90 single step sites affiliated
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with ms. breton simmons was barbosa, and misha jo, 2 has left the fear and despair of that time behind as it each have been late, and in a sense, i have forgiven them separately. it doesn't affect me any more. and then i am glad of that. otherwise i wouldn't be able to lift the way i do now ships today, but today the former study offices are apartments. those who move in here do not fear the state. they only know the ministry of state security from stories. the children play next to the barred windows of the former prison. the stars is no more than a reminder of the time when just the desire freedom. ready could land you in prison? [000:00:00;00]
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